The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:22 pm @Dragomir I saw your response to Dyslexicon regarding there was nothing personal in your not answering his question, but I'm still not understanding why you didn't have more to say about Rej. As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) you and he have a strong mafia relationship in that you mentored him when he first started playing and know his game well. I would expect you to be very involved in discussion about his being scum or civ but all I saw in your ISO was your vote for him and the post Dizzy quoted. Why didn't you have more to say? Did you not recognize his civ meta? Or was he off? Anything you can tell me about this would be helpful.

It is time for me to go to bed but I'm going to vote for Creature before I go. Creature, you may have no interest in this game at all (and I'm sad if that is true) but I have to go by what I see and what I see looks like your scum meta. If you're not bad I hope you'll get with it and show us.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:32 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:59 pm @Dragomir

Change your vote.

Why?

What's your thoughts on the other wagons, Creature, Dom and Tony?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:26 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:25 pmI did. Just didn't feel like answering. Nothing personal.

Uh ok. But you still felt Rej was scum at that point?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:59 pm @Dragomir

Change your vote.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:53 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:12 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:56 am I'd actively like to hear from mr. Dragomir...

I wanted rej to open up a bit about the game, because we've all blindered ourselves as civs at least once, and I thought posts about others might give us a better picture.

Well here he says dragomir should be able to read his meta and know that this is a civ rej move... So, id like to hear about this from dragomir, who sure went quiet after it seemed like this Lynch was a done deal.

The flip side to this? Rej finding only something to say about someone who is voting him is s bit self serving and calculated, so I'm definitely not moving my vote at this time.

This would be the first time I've seen Rej hand out town reads in such a manner.

Drag jumps into the game on D1 after about 24 hours to post this one response. I immediately say hi and what do you think about Rej's latest posts, cause I thought he was town and Rej had already said that Drag should know him better. But Drag doesn't post anything after this. @Dragomir Any comments to this? Did you see my questions to you back then?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:47 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:36 am Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

I'd rather she be vigged. She's practically confirmed scum in everyone's eyes based on a possible red peek. I don't really see any info her lynch could gain so she's better off vigged while others who provide more info should be lynched.

This is also suspicious to me. A mafioso who feels he is in a good place can redirect the lynch while recommending a civilian kill (and potentially waste a shot on) Lunalee.

What makes you think that I feel like I'm a good place?

Are you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:36 am Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

I'd rather she be vigged. She's practically confirmed scum in everyone's eyes based on a possible red peek. I don't really see any info her lynch could gain so she's better off vigged while others who provide more info should be lynched.

This is also suspicious to me. A mafioso who feels he is in a good place can redirect the lynch while recommending a civilian kill (and potentially waste a shot on) Lunalee.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:59 pm This might come off as sheepish but Idc. [VOTE: long Con] aubergine

Didn't like his entrance.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:55 pm What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

Why am I in this equation? There's nothing wrong with my post.

Sometimes, scum will ask town players why they are suspicious of their partner. Other times, scum will ask town player A about town player B that town player A seems to be suspicious of. The scum in this instance would be gathering information and reasons to also suspect town player B.

^^ This mentions 2 reasons why you are in that equation.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:52 pm Or is jack scum too? *sorry i'm rambling out loud again*

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:55 pm What's wrong with Dom novaselinenever?

Or should we be taking a look at Dom and Dragomir because of nova dying? hmm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:39 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:36 am Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

I'd rather she be vigged. She's practically confirmed scum in everyone's eyes based on a possible red peek. I don't really see any info her lynch could gain so she's better off vigged while others who provide more info should be lynched.

I just saw a very good movie with Brad Pitt and then I have to come read this and be like “that seems dumb but maybe?” and then I have to go check the role list and find out that the mafia has a doctor so maybe that’s just not the best idea in the world.

But yes in theory in a setup with dumping and all vanilla roles except 1 shot cop and 1 shot vig the vig waits on the cop night 1 and then takes the shot night 2 if necessary. I think. Discuss.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:36 am Okay we’re lynching Luna today. If anyone has a reason not to lynch Luna speak now.

Seeing as the day’s plan is clear, let’s try to not waste the day and pretend Luna has just died and we’re doing night 3 analysis, seeing that the thread is locked during night 3.

If Luna flips scum I think Creature is the obvious target day 4 but I don’t think that’s the right one.

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:56 am I'd actively like to hear from mr. Dragomir...

I wanted rej to open up a bit about the game, because we've all blindered ourselves as civs at least once, and I thought posts about others might give us a better picture.

Well here he says dragomir should be able to read his meta and know that this is a civ rej move... So, id like to hear about this from dragomir, who sure went quiet after it seemed like this Lynch was a done deal.

The flip side to this? Rej finding only something to say about someone who is voting him is s bit self serving and calculated, so I'm definitely not moving my vote at this time.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:50 am 4-6

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 amI'd be shocked if Dyslex isn't an Indy.

Lol. Ever been surprised before? =p

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

So not do what you literally did in your second post when you town read me based on the same post that has sig convinced I'm indy? Ok, cool.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pmBut if you hand it like candy, you might miss out on the obvious scum. Point is, don't just give out town cred when it's undeserved. Reeks of TMI.

I'll hand out all the town cred I feel like, thanks! Better to have reads and express them than not. Reads can always change as the game changes and you know more info.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm Why bother finding town?

This is multiball with cults and a serial killer and a town traitor.

Spoiler: show

Are you triggered?

I feel like I should read the setup again >_>

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Yeah! It would be like:
OMG OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAGAHGHAGHGHHH

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I think I'm liking Dom and probably Nova.
Rej being "that was my civillian way of" is lol.

Oreki wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:37 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:38 am Wow. I am actually reading Nova town lol

Hi, Hope to have a nice game with you all

Why does this read exist and why is it a surprise? Does an answer to this question already exist? Should I finish reading before I make posts?

Not really, It just I town read him, I usually don't town read players this early and Nova post come out as if he's relaxed, hence only town can play being that relax even for DP0

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:23 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:41 pm it has been very hard to read this thread while also watching the red sox bang dingers against the yankees.

You a Sox fan?

I am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:41 pm it has been very hard to read this thread while also watching the red sox bang dingers against the yankees.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:11 pm Attention everyone. I don't like Nutella.

I'm on the same bus. She a bad girl.

Hey buzz off. I'm seriously too occupied with real life to deal with being suspected for no reason. Kindly direct your bullshit elsewhere.

This is a really big over being suspected.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:15 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:09 pm

Rej wrote:why you voting timmer now, you just pointed out he and me could be team mates

i mean, is that the only reason? I would like to hear more on why the vote...

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:11 pm Attention everyone. I don't like Nutella.

I'm on the same bus. She a bad girl.

Hey buzz off. I'm seriously too occupied with real life to deal with being suspected for no reason. Kindly direct your bullshit elsewhere.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

What is a "deserved civ card," who gets to hand them out, and who gets to determine what is deserved and who is the best?

And what makes a scholarship more valuable than candy?

So many questions.

Most importantly is this one: Why does it bother you that people are calling other people civilians so fast?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:57 pm How are we doing?

Great! I found us our D1 lynch and our N1 vig kill.

What did Quin do to deserve being shot?

He tried painting Sig as our D1 lynch when it's actually a Nutella. Redirection here. Revealed himself as buddies with Nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:03 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:14 pm I don't think that's how HIPAA works

Aaaaaaannnd D1 lynch successfully found.

I like your spark kid but good luck lol

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:22 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:54 pm I'm being shy with my vote. Why is that?

Good question, I want to hear more about this.

Me too!

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:02 am lynch

Oh boy this is a fun thing for my autocorrect to have jumped on

This feels awkward. It could be a neutral thing, but in my mind, it still warrants a vote.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:19 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am Epi and Mac are still just messing around which is normal, but I'm expecting some weird ass shit from one of them soon.

Why just one?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:13 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:03 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

No. Throw out town reads like candy. See how everyone responds to there being candy in the area. Then throw out more candy.

No. Throw out scum reads like rocks. See how everyone responds to there being rocks flying in the area. Then throw out more rocks and aim better.

Why make giving town reads painful?

Rocks refers to scum reads.

Oh. That's not enough then.

Throw scum reads like a spear. See how everyone responds to a spear being thrown at them. If they try to dodge or deflect them, the person is scum. If they take it like a man, they're town. Then throw out more spears, this time with better aim so the remaining scum don't dodge or deflect them again.

You ruined it

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:11 pm Attention everyone. I don't like Nutella.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:07 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:59 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:07 pm Also I labelled you as bad from your first post, what do you think about that?

You are mistaken. What did you see you thought was bad?

Hmm we'll see. I'm not really sure, I guess I felt something was off about your usual opening post. It felt kind of cold and distant rather than welcoming. A replica instead of the genuine thing. The heavy punctuation I think lol.

Nova, are you sure you're not thinking of some other post? This was my first post of the game (below). It has two periods and two commas. Is that heavy punctuation?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm hi everyone, I'm here. Happy to see some friendly faces and welcome to the newcomers, I hope you enjoy the game.

That's the one! No mistake, it's you. I guess heavy punctuation might be an exaggeration, but the cold and distant feeling are still there. Maybe it's the lack of exclamation point lol. Gut feeling was that it is fabricated, I'm not getting your usual energy and enthusiasm. Feels like you're just replicating it to keep up with your usual opening posts.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:11 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:10 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:09 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:06 pm @novaselinenever what do you think about Sig's post where he prematurely defended with meta. Do you find it genuine or manipulative with an agenda?

To keep it real? I have no thoughts on it, I barely remember it lol. I'm interested about other stuff as long as Sig is concerned.

Why don't you go check it out then?

no u

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:03 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

No. Throw out town reads like candy. See how everyone responds to there being candy in the area. Then throw out more candy.

No. Throw out scum reads like rocks. See how everyone responds to there being rocks flying in the area. Then throw out more rocks and aim better.

Why make giving town reads painful?

Rocks refers to scum reads.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:09 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:06 pm @novaselinenever what do you think about Sig's post where he prematurely defended with meta. Do you find it genuine or manipulative with an agenda?

To keep it real? I have no thoughts on it, I barely remember it lol. I'm interested about other stuff as long as Sig is concerned.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

No. Throw out town reads like candy. See how everyone responds to there being candy in the area. Then throw out more candy.

No. Throw out scum reads like rocks. See how everyone responds to there being rocks flying in the area. Then throw out more rocks and aim better.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:11 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:40 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:33 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

It's literally all the help I can offer, as I haven't read them.

I skimmed through and I had hard times getting reads, so my question, was my civillian way of getting either a short summary or get other reactions out.
A bad guy here would take the most convienient answer to my question just to show activity.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:06 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:51 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Half the players haven’t the faintest clue what’s going on and the half that do are bad therefore lynch Jack.

Wait what?

That’s my hunch lynch Jack.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Half the players haven’t the faintest clue what’s going on and the half that do are bad therefore lynch Jack.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:57 am but about 60% of us are all town?

If we hand it like a Nobel prize, we're gonna go full blind when killing the rest.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:58 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:45 am You're not one to talk about plausible reasons now when you don't even have one yourself.

If you're talking to me: I have no strong reason yet but I'm going to form them depending on how people react.

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:58 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:52 am [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

D0 votes?
LMAO