The Syndicate

Rip, giant rip

C'mon town let's get it!

win for me pls town

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 8:32 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 7:23 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 7:20 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 2:06 am mafia would be so easy if we all agreed never to lie to eachother
Agreed
Did I scare you a little bit in the start of the game? I need the boost.
Let’s save these sort of questions for my memoirs, but if you wanna know who my teammate is, AMA

Is Marmot your teammate
AMA means ask me anything
Or American music awards

yikes

Hey guys I'm a civ

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 8:13 pm Not caught up, and won't be until tomorrow.

BUT. I've been thinking about my constant uncertainty as town lately, and that I should stop being dumb and not be afraid to be wrong. I really think I could have and should have stuck with my town read on Wolbre.

So this looks something like - there's one particular aspect of MP's play that makes me think town for him. Don't really want to say what in case I'm right.

I still suspect Marmot. I just do. Rah rah.

look at me stirring the pot even after I die hehehehe

being mislynched is so frustrating tbh
Ima sleep, gn

sigh

Kill or look into the people who just CFDed me eventually

Also CFDing someone 4 mins before the deadline is fun

Anyways, good luck I guess town

Not sure if I'm still allowed to post

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine
We don't have the numbers to move the wagon off me. It's not going to happen and I have less than a minute left
:slow clap:

This is a terrible wagon I hope you realize this

There's no way I can defend myself in 4 minutes. Enjoy one less town : /
[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Really....... 4 minute CFD

Oh what the hell happened

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 5:37 pm sorry am mobile

is it correct that floyd has not posted?

corrrect

and if i came across as angry towards any of u and i get lynched, its just competetive youre all great <3

I need to sleep now, Im wiped but will be back shortly before eod

ColinIsCool - Part of my problem I face is that my first game with someone who flips scum, I subconcsciously associate them with scum for future games for awhile. Colin is playing differently for sure compared to !scum in greece. I didn't like his response to my explanation of the survive to win mentality.
Dyslexicon - Focused her efforts during d1 lynch off of Choutas as she believed his lynch was set in stone basically, so she focused on Colin. Maybe she knew he was MAfia, but most probable she is town
Elohcin - Seems disinterested. I don't doubt she may be burned out but the post about voting me just because just made my heart sink
Epignosis - Really not sure what Epi is doing this game.
JaggedJimmyJay - Gamesolving and I appreciate the effort to try and get me to clarify on various topics. Willingness to change votes is also good and you're posting a good amt
Kylemii - hasn't posted for most of today. Identified my vote on choutas as a good look for me (unlikely to him that i theoretically bussed him), otherwise im disregarding some of his posts from yesterday bc he was drunk
lapluie - Hasn't had a ton of interacitons with me besides a positive one a short while ago. Doubtful she is scum but I am not famiiar with her
M Plus 7 - In a weird place in my list. Post d1 he has been really active and attempting to question and give me the benefit of the doubt. He did, however vote late on Choutas. Therefore, the choutas portion makes him look a bit less town to me
Marmot (Replaced MacDougall) - I think part of why I dislike your role, not you, is that Mac pushed the idea of me being scum early. This is just him being how he is, but I don't like being attacked as it stresses me out and resurfaces.
Quin - Feels null leaning town for me. He pointed out that nova thought i was scum as well as JJJ potentially, and that the night kill was a clever one bc Nova didn't give many reads
Scotty - I feel very similar regarding Floyd and Eloh to your most recent post,
TheFloyd73 - Really hard to make a comment here besides just gone. We don't know what happens in the event of an afk mafia killer. Statistically hes town just afk. Rip if hes the PR

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 5:09 pm between the two of them I think that eloh looks a little worse than wolbre, there's something real to me about his desperation to stay alive and all the effort he's putting into making the lynch go in a direction that isn't him, which to be fair would be something he'd do as a bad guy too I guess.

@wolbre04 did you play any games here other than Greece and Ass?

side note, mp07 looks town to me.

Well, Upick as well but i died n1 lmfao as town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 4:31 pm wolbre, I cannot possibly move my vote without the reads I requested.

I'm home now, was not in a situation to reasonably post when u quoted me

doing so atm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:26 pm I see now, however, that wol is not new to mafia at all but has a home site. This debunks my theory. Now I have to vote him out of self preservation as I know for sure I am civ but cannot be for sure of him.

I played like 5 games on my home site and this is my 3rd one here (?) yes I'm pretty new and I'm messy as fuck

(Because she knows I'm not mafia)

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 12:03 pm Who do you suspect again, wolbre? On mobile so it’s a pain to search for things

Mostly Eloh especially after that gross post she just made about lynching me bc she isn't caught up and doesn't remember what happened but...
Ya know let's just lynch him because

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:58 am I dunno. I’ll defend myself but usually in a manner that tries to suss my accuser out, because I have nothing to hide, and if I have nothing to hide I don’t worry. I can believe people feel differently here, but man, I just do not like that whole thing.

That's fine I didn't expect you to change your vote so I won't pursue it further. Dizzy said she wanted more content from me and I tried and maybe JJJ will pull through and not lynch someone that is Town too

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:52 am Okay, that might be how it is on your home forum, but that’s not how it is in this game, so I’m not seeing a very good justification for it. It reeks of not being confident in your abilities to survive the lynch, but if you’re a townie who’s done nothing wrong, why would that be?

I'm not saying you should suddenly all vote elsewhere bc of this, I'm merely explaining my mentality of "I have to defend myself hard bc if I'm mislynched I lose no matter what"

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:48 am

For context, mafia conceded bc a messenger identified them as scum. They thought the messenger was a survivor

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:45 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:45 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:41 am My home forum is survive to win, you don't just accept a Muslim he bc u don't get credit if your team wins. You only accept it if you don't have the time or energy to fight
This is important context. Can anyone corroborate this though?
Want me to link you a post?

Or ss it

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:45 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:41 am My home forum is survive to win, you don't just accept a Muslim he bc u don't get credit if your team wins. You only accept it if you don't have the time or energy to fight
This is important context. Can anyone corroborate this though?

Want me to link you a post?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:43 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:41 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:38 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:29 am That said, I'm not exactly OK with a lynch of wolbre, but I do see the merit behind why people are voting that way. The reason I feel uncomfortable with it is because I'm a bit torn between his behavior and general hyperdefensiveness being scum-compatible; they just don't make any sense as a strategy if he's scum. If anything my gut says he seems more like a super desperate townie, but I can see the other perspective as well. There are various statements he's made that I just don't understand if he's scum, is what's keeping me from being OK with the lynch. For example, I do think it's a bit strange that wolbre would admit that the lynch of Choutas was pure luck, among other things, I'm not sure why a teammate would want to make a bus vote sound like luck instead of touting it.
Why would a townie react super desperately to the small anount of pressure I and others put on him earlier? Genuine Q
In Greece I got pissed off at cbob for voting me out of the blue and I was town that game too. I only had one vote on me
Townies can fear being lynched too, especially if they're a power role. I suppose it's more understandable for me because buried deep inside of me I still have the intense fear of being mislynched drilled into me from years of playing survive-to-win games. Might depend on the player and the circumstances of the game though.
That and I'm an incredibly anxious person in general, so vote pressure makes me super uncomfortable even when I appear otherwise relaxed and I know I'm town. I might be the minority though.

A mislynch on yourself ***

My keyboard corrects mislynch to Muslim, sorry

My home forum is survive to win, you don't just accept a Muslim he bc u don't get credit if your team wins. You only accept it if you don't have the time or energy to fight

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:35 am wolbre, your reads indicate you suspect Elo and Marmot the most; can you provide more detail on how you feel about everyone else?

In short, there are a lot of ppl not posting much. I'll do more when I get home, but a lot of my reads of ppl rely on x person flipping town or scum

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:35 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:34 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:34 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:32 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:29 am That said, I'm not exactly OK with a lynch of wolbre, but I do see the merit behind why people are voting that way. The reason I feel uncomfortable with it is because I'm a bit torn between his behavior and general hyperdefensiveness being scum-compatible; they just don't make any sense as a strategy if he's scum. If anything my gut says he seems more like a super desperate townie, but I can see the other perspective as well. There are various statements he's made that I just don't understand if he's scum, is what's keeping me from being OK with the lynch. For example, I do think it's a bit strange that wolbre would admit that the lynch of Choutas was pure luck, among other things, I'm not sure why a teammate would want to make a bus vote sound like luck instead of touting it.
His hyperdefensiveness isn't a strategy, it's a knee-jerk reaction to what's going on around him.
Someone might have covered this already (and if so, apologies), but what was he like in Ass Class? He was bad there, right?
I just pretended to go full derp idiot after one actually accidental slip made several ppl think I was Town
So you weren't under any lynch pressure at any point?

I was early on, Mac was my teammate and said that I'm Town bc I was posting so much lol. After that I just acted super civvie and JJJ gave me a platform to look Town on. I took Vote orders, changed them slightly when I reposted, etc, to make it look better for me and teammates. After Mac blew the suspected wolbre04 concept away post d2, I was sailin smooth

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:34 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:32 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:29 am That said, I'm not exactly OK with a lynch of wolbre, but I do see the merit behind why people are voting that way. The reason I feel uncomfortable with it is because I'm a bit torn between his behavior and general hyperdefensiveness being scum-compatible; they just don't make any sense as a strategy if he's scum. If anything my gut says he seems more like a super desperate townie, but I can see the other perspective as well. There are various statements he's made that I just don't understand if he's scum, is what's keeping me from being OK with the lynch. For example, I do think it's a bit strange that wolbre would admit that the lynch of Choutas was pure luck, among other things, I'm not sure why a teammate would want to make a bus vote sound like luck instead of touting it.
His hyperdefensiveness isn't a strategy, it's a knee-jerk reaction to what's going on around him.
Someone might have covered this already (and if so, apologies), but what was he like in Ass Class? He was bad there, right?

I just pretended to go full derp idiot after one actually accidental slip made several ppl think I was Town

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 11:22 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 10:07 am Okay, days are 48 hours and day ends tonight when means we are a little over halfway done with the day. I am a suspect. I don't remember why. I think I was suspecting wolbre. I don't remember why. I will vote there.
What the actual fuck is this

Like, seriously, what is supposed to be done with this? It's almost policy lynch material IMO.

This makes me want to cry bc there's nothing I can do about this (not actually cry just be irritated)

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 10:45 am Anyone want to talk about our two leading lynch candidates and their compatibility?

Spoiler: show
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:56 pm how long will it be before epignosis completely becomes the mask
When the beard and mullet take over.
He shaved, remember?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.

Above are Elohcin's mentions of wolbre. She didn't mention him until today, and she did so by calling him out for making the kill (as a teammate with wolbre) because of him being somewhat new to the Syndicate. @Elohcin, can you explain why you feel this way?

Spoiler: show
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:12 pm Here's My Reads list, I'll try to provide a small quip next to each one (just in the order i saw them)
Order of the Manboob
Wolbre04 - lord and savior
JJJ - t/t argument with MP7, me and Lilefer have a similar way of playing as t/t against each other
Charlie Black Man

Knights of the Nipple

Kyle
Lapluie - compared to a previous civ game, u look good
Colin
Quin
Nova - fine except that JJJ vote
MP7 - Argument with Jay seems t/t
Marmot/Mac - got us info that makes laplui look pretty good
Quin

Choutas
Dizzy - dont like your vote on JJJ
Scotty - always wants me dead
Choutas - Who is she

Sekiy
Elohcin
Floyd - Who is she

really exhausted tbh, ima get some sleep, cya guys later

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:56 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.
I did neither

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 1:40 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 1:36 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 1:26 am It's fun waking up to 4 votes on myself and dropping like the New Years ball in 1/3 of the rainbows here.
Should I bother trying to defend myself? I can try.
wow! Whyd you change your vote?? are you not suspicious anymore of marmot or what
I like him more than Eloh. Randomly comes in and makes it seem like I put words in her mouth when I referenced her implying I'm scum
Also she just left wth
[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 1:42 am Here's My GTH Reads of what we have left
ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Elohcin
Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
M Plus 7
Marmot (Replaced MacDougall)
novaselinenever
Quin
Scotty
TheFloyd73

I think Marmot or Eloh are better alternatives to me. Why you may ask? I'll post why in a sec

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 1:56 am Why is Eloh Scum?
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
I personally feel like the idea of a poll like this is generally mafia sided, because early votes cannot be taken back. Maybe it's just me though. My point is, shit happens late in the poll, why a lock vote especially if ppl may not be around for later (so they could still withhold their vote)

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:55 pm

Is this canon?
It should be cuz he right
@JaggedJimmyJay do you feel like this attitude has been represented here? why or why not?
I don’t have time to play two games largely on my phone. I’m also well beyond tired of this game.

So no, I haven’t made a great effort to move this thread if that’s your question.
The game just started.
For sake of this we will run with JJJ still being town, but I would understand that he can get tired of one game and it affects another. He was frustrated a lot in ass class until a few of us tried to gamesolve and I just flat out lied my way through the whole thing, and he came out inspired - until flips. Idk if I can remotely even say this feels fake

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Put this and the last one together. Should we feel comfortable then assuming you are acting "forced" or "not genuine" if the accuser and the accused are feeling similar?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:24 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:58 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:45 am Good job guys! As I was reading through what was going on, I would have changed to Chou if I were here EoD. But alas, I was hanging out with the family.

I will try to be more active. My heart's just not in it.
Charlie Blackmon can keep your heart. I'll take a read or two instead.
I think you, jay, and dyslexicon seem trustworthy.
I found a colorized image of this. Make up your mind sister
Spoiler: show

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.
I think realistically the implication that I'm a mafia in your mind can warrant me interpreting that as "scheming", that's what mafia does, after all. WHY do you think I killed Nova? In Ass Class I wasn't the one who picked NKs for scum and many of them looked terrible for me when they flipped town. If I got to pick who killed, or even influence it by being on the scum team, I would not pick someone that implicates me. I nearly got lynched in Ass Class before Mac helped save me by casting blame elsewhere.

In reference to Floyd, in all honesty he's probably town. Why do you think he's scum and why am I scum. This is the million dollar question for Eloh, folks. I feel like a lot of these opinions have ZERO substance to them and are just sheepie

Above are wolbre's mentions of Elohcin. Wolbre didn't talk about Elohcin until Day 2, but did list her at the very bottom of his rainbow list on Day 1. At the same time, wolbre had his vote on Choutas, which does make me think that wolbre and Elohcin are not teammates.

@wolbre04 any particular reason for her being so low on your rainbow at the time?

She's playing like she doesn't care and literally said I think I didn't like wolbre04 therefore I'm just gonna vote him because maybe I didn't like him I'd. Also just randomly calling me out and her snapping at me over the words in the mouth comment

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 3:17 am To respond to your case in full.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am Why is Marmot Scum?
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:20 am Aw crap I got a mafia rolecard.
You heard it here first folks
But anyways...

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am [VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:22 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:06 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: WOLBRE04] aubergine
?
Just hoping you'd show. What's up?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:37 pm ColinIsCool
Kylemii
M Plus 7
novaselinenever
Scotty

Dyslexicon
TheFloyd73

wolbre04
Quin
MacDougall
lapluie
Elohcin
Choutas
I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.
Scum read of MP7, save for later

Were you going to do something with this?

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:45 pm First instinct is to ask whoever jumped Choutas wagon [including Marmot] super late, why?
eeeeeeeee

Dizzy asked me why I jumped on the wagon late. How does this make me scum?

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:47 pm I have a rainbow, and here's what it looks like.

ColinIsCool
novaselinenever
Scotty

Charlie Blackmon
Choutas
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Quin
TheFloyd73
wolbre04

Dyslexicon
lapluie
M Plus 7
Why ru voting for me if im not in your bottom 3
also the original "lapluie is scum but shes playing the same as one of her civ games" does not make any sense to me

That rainbow is from Day 1.
Also I'm not voting for you right now.
Also, I said lapluie did the opposite of what she did as town in another game, not the same. I notice this is a similar thought that you voiced in your rainbow, but it's inaccurate.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 7:00 am Also I may not play by the standard meta, but I do believe and strive to make useful and informed votes.
We are vastly different players, but if you are willing to vote Croutons bc "He's prolly gonna get lynched anyways so why does it matter" then this statement is put into question

I'm not sure I follow here.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:03 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:59 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:02 am Thinking more about wolbre's rainbow where he listed Choutas twice: Would a teammate do that?
I have to ask - why? Quin also appears twice and it was just an error in copypasting names over. I don't understand how there could be any degree of correlation between Me listing croutons and queen twice ergo them being on a team with me when coitus flips rabbit
The thing about the Choutas one is that you listed two very different thoughts. In one you described his meta. In the other, you asked who she was. I just don't understand how you can thinking both of these things about the same person, because thinking one of them doesn't suggest you'd also be thinking the other one.

I also don't understand the Mariah Karie reference so
If you are scumreading me bc you don't get the reference even after I explained it I'll sob on camera for you

I didn't scumread you at this point. I was looking for clarification on your rainbow list. Asking questions does not automatically mean I suspect you, just that I'm looking for answers.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:53 am Since Choutas was never here at the EoD, I find it less likely that someone who pushed his wagon was bussing him, because he wasn't around to talk about it.

Wolbre's vote was so early on that I don't find it to be town-supporting evidence.

Quin, Kyle, and Jay all built the wagon into a lead. I don't believe any of them bussed Choutas.

MP and I voted last second. I know my alignment, and I've stated my thoughts on MP already.
Lol you would think that, since you were one of the last people to vote him

like you never even talked about wolbre at all before then.
Did you read the rest of my post? I was talking about the people who pushed his wagon: Quin, Kyle, and Jay, not the rest of the folks voting for him.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:28 pm No. It's something I'd do as a mafia member to a teammate, and it's something I do all the time as a civilian too. NAI

Looking back, wolbre did come back into the thread when Choutas had 2 votes about 2 hours before deadline. He had a chance to move his vote elsewhere before the wagon really got going and he didn't. I do think that's a favorable look for him.
If you find it unlikely he was bussed then
whyvoteme.jpeg and whyscumreadme.avi

One town looking post does not make you town and unvoteable. One scummy post does not make you mafia and an automatic lynch.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:47 am Here's my current rainbow. All tiers are ordered alphabetically.

ColinIsCool
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Elohcin
Quin
Scotty
TheFloyd73
Charlie Blackmon
Dyslexicon
lapluie
wolbre04
M Plus 7

I intentionally put everyone in a non-neutral read tier (with the exception of Floyd), with the attempt of taking a stance on every player, and treating as a GTH sort of rainbow.
How did I end up going lower after the previous quoted comments

I explained that in the next post, and also I wasn't giving yellow reads to anyone (except inactiveFloyd) in that rainbow.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:24 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:45 am
Marmot and Black Man I don't like bc they seem to be pulling the idea of me as scum outta their asses. But marmot is marmot and I like him more bc he trolls and is fun with it
I don't have a strong scumread of you. Heck, I even found a good reason to believe that you aren't scum, and that's the strongest reason I have on you of either alignment.

The reason I listed you as orange in my rainbow is because of my gut. You feel different this game than in Ancient Greece. Your reaction to suspicion here is infused with incredulity that I don't recall seeing there, and I don't think the pressure being put on you is even that severe.
why am i still so low ;-;

Explained above.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:55 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm

Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.
I don't think scheming is an exaggeration from your accusation.

Also, why Floyd?
I actually like this post. God bless you young man
it backs up what i said about eloh

I like you more than Eloh, and if she flips scum I'll like you even more bc of the last comment

What I gather from this case is that you think I'm scum because of how my read of you developed. Is that a proper addendum?

Largely because I fell so low with what seems like little evidence

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 2:46 am But I haven't voted for you... yet.

I know you probably plan to

I'll do a "why is x voting for me" post tomorrow, thought I expect to wake up to a handful of people sheeping blindly on my wagon

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]
See above posts as you're the only 2 i can forsee taking votes off me

Enjoy the wall of text, sorry
Gn girlies
Take what I said or leave it, if I get lynched, well, I'll just roll my eyes because I tried to do something useful

Why is Marmot Scum?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:20 am Aw crap I got a mafia rolecard.

You heard it here first folks

But anyways...

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am [VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:22 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:06 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: WOLBRE04] aubergine
?
Just hoping you'd show. What's up?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:37 pm ColinIsCool
Kylemii
M Plus 7
novaselinenever
Scotty

Dyslexicon
TheFloyd73

wolbre04
Quin
MacDougall
lapluie
Elohcin
Choutas
I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.

Scum read of MP7, save for later

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:45 pm First instinct is to ask whoever jumped Choutas wagon [including Marmot] super late, why?

eeeeeeeee

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:47 pm I have a rainbow, and here's what it looks like.

ColinIsCool
novaselinenever
Scotty

Charlie Blackmon
Choutas
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Quin
TheFloyd73
wolbre04

Dyslexicon
lapluie
M Plus 7

Why ru voting for me if im not in your bottom 3
also the original "lapluie is scum but shes playing the same as one of her civ games" does not make any sense to me

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 7:00 am Also I may not play by the standard meta, but I do believe and strive to make useful and informed votes.

We are vastly different players, but if you are willing to vote Croutons bc "He's prolly gonna get lynched anyways so why does it matter" then this statement is put into question

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:03 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:59 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:02 am Thinking more about wolbre's rainbow where he listed Choutas twice: Would a teammate do that?
I have to ask - why? Quin also appears twice and it was just an error in copypasting names over. I don't understand how there could be any degree of correlation between Me listing croutons and queen twice ergo them being on a team with me when coitus flips rabbit
The thing about the Choutas one is that you listed two very different thoughts. In one you described his meta. In the other, you asked who she was. I just don't understand how you can thinking both of these things about the same person, because thinking one of them doesn't suggest you'd also be thinking the other one.

I also don't understand the Mariah Karie reference so

If you are scumreading me bc you don't get the reference even after I explained it I'll sob on camera for you

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:53 am Since Choutas was never here at the EoD, I find it less likely that someone who pushed his wagon was bussing him, because he wasn't around to talk about it.

Wolbre's vote was so early on that I don't find it to be town-supporting evidence.

Quin, Kyle, and Jay all built the wagon into a lead. I don't believe any of them bussed Choutas.

MP and I voted last second. I know my alignment, and I've stated my thoughts on MP already.
Lol you would think that, since you were one of the last people to vote him

like you never even talked about wolbre at all before then.
Did you read the rest of my post? I was talking about the people who pushed his wagon: Quin, Kyle, and Jay, not the rest of the folks voting for him.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:28 pm No. It's something I'd do as a mafia member to a teammate, and it's something I do all the time as a civilian too. NAI

Looking back, wolbre did come back into the thread when Choutas had 2 votes about 2 hours before deadline. He had a chance to move his vote elsewhere before the wagon really got going and he didn't. I do think that's a favorable look for him.

If you find it unlikely he was bussed then
whyvoteme.jpeg and whyscumreadme.avi

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 10:47 am Here's my current rainbow. All tiers are ordered alphabetically.

ColinIsCool
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Elohcin
Quin
Scotty
TheFloyd73
Charlie Blackmon
Dyslexicon
lapluie
wolbre04
M Plus 7

I intentionally put everyone in a non-neutral read tier (with the exception of Floyd), with the attempt of taking a stance on every player, and treating as a GTH sort of rainbow.

How did I end up going lower after the previous quoted comments

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:24 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:45 am
Marmot and Black Man I don't like bc they seem to be pulling the idea of me as scum outta their asses. But marmot is marmot and I like him more bc he trolls and is fun with it
I don't have a strong scumread of you. Heck, I even found a good reason to believe that you aren't scum, and that's the strongest reason I have on you of either alignment.

The reason I listed you as orange in my rainbow is because of my gut. You feel different this game than in Ancient Greece. Your reaction to suspicion here is infused with incredulity that I don't recall seeing there, and I don't think the pressure being put on you is even that severe.

why am i still so low ;-;

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:55 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.
I don't think scheming is an exaggeration from your accusation.

Also, why Floyd?

I actually like this post. God bless you young man
it backs up what i said about eloh

I like you more than Eloh, and if she flips scum I'll like you even more bc of the last comment

Why is Eloh Scum?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?

I personally feel like the idea of a poll like this is generally mafia sided, because early votes cannot be taken back. Maybe it's just me though. My point is, shit happens late in the poll, why a lock vote especially if ppl may not be around for later (so they could still withhold their vote)

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
What specifically is not genuine?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:55 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 5:54 pmKylemii, what is your concrete, developed, prepared read on me right now?
i don't have that yet. my gth read on you is civ though, based on the fact that mafia jay is more content to let a dead thread sleep, and you've done the opposite of that.
Is this canon?
It should be cuz he right
@JaggedJimmyJay do you feel like this attitude has been represented here? why or why not?
I don’t have time to play two games largely on my phone. I’m also well beyond tired of this game.

So no, I haven’t made a great effort to move this thread if that’s your question.
The game just started.

For sake of this we will run with JJJ still being town, but I would understand that he can get tired of one game and it affects another. He was frustrated a lot in ass class until a few of us tried to gamesolve and I just flat out lied my way through the whole thing, and he came out inspired - until flips. Idk if I can remotely even say this feels fake

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.

Put this and the last one together. Should we feel comfortable then assuming you are acting "forced" or "not genuine" if the accuser and the accused are feeling similar?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:24 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:58 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 8:45 am Good job guys! As I was reading through what was going on, I would have changed to Chou if I were here EoD. But alas, I was hanging out with the family.

I will try to be more active. My heart's just not in it.
Charlie Blackmon can keep your heart. I'll take a read or two instead.
I think you, jay, and dyslexicon seem trustworthy.

I found a colorized image of this. Make up your mind sister

Spoiler: show

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:52 pm Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?
Sup

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:33 pm We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova
I think you did this
False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.

I think realistically the implication that I'm a mafia in your mind can warrant me interpreting that as "scheming", that's what mafia does, after all. WHY do you think I killed Nova? In Ass Class I wasn't the one who picked NKs for scum and many of them looked terrible for me when they flipped town. If I got to pick who killed, or even influence it by being on the scum team, I would not pick someone that implicates me. I nearly got lynched in Ass Class before Mac helped save me by casting blame elsewhere.

In reference to Floyd, in all honesty he's probably town. Why do you think he's scum and why am I scum. This is the million dollar question for Eloh, folks. I feel like a lot of these opinions have ZERO substance to them and are just sheepie

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