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[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
Can you let us know if you have garnered anything significant from the "pick 2 civs" and the infohunting that we have done? I know people have lives and might not be here until the very end and if there's something that can set us up to catch a mafia based on said things I'm all for it.

No rush, do it when you have the chance but I would like to make sure the majority of the thread can see it, at a minimum

Quin wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 2:21 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 2:19 am mafia win con is listed as "must completely outnumber civs to win"

right now we have 5 civs, 4 mafia, 1 yellow blob

if we lynch a mafia, even if they turn out to be the un-lynchable bad guy, wouldn't that still stop the game from ending? a player dies again tonight but that would still leave us with 4 civs, 4 mafia, and 1 variable yellow blob on day 7, the mafia wouldn't outnumber civs yet, and if the indy is civ inclined, the mafia votes would still not yet overpower the civ votes

linki- holy shit

i'm just gonna assume that was a joke :0

i mean i'll forgive you this time but if you ever make danganronpa references in my game again i'll gut you like a fish

Alright oh Great Gozu

What's up with the mod kill

Quin wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 2:12 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:13 am Naegi Makoto doesn't know what roles he activates.

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What the ever living fuck

Can Ddl and Penny be teammates
Well first of all ddl mentions penny only 8 times total

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:45 pm how confident are we that there's a vampire in the empties

If by empties you mean just Penny and Dom, 56%

If it's Penny, Dom, and both nova and INH, 80%

So he's pretty certain of Dom or Penny being scum based on this

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 1:57 pm Seriously though, I was leaning towards voting Penny now. I think he hasn't any other games here going on? He's newer here and I would expect more activety excitement? I have absolutely no impression of him in this game. And nobody has brought him up or brought attention to him before now. With this in mind the meta from Dragon was very helpful. Penny not being all over the thread is according to the meta to be expected. But it still leaves me with no read what so ever. And having someone who has a playstyle who's not very pro town and hard to clear, but effective as scum, doesn't sound great to me. Sue me.

He's playing another game. Maybe two if he's in the sockpuppet game.

Okay

~~~
The spice level of these two
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In other words, he thinks penny is scum, everything else he said is not related to penny being anything but inactive

I hope I get a special sauce icon when I'm ISOd

So I don't know, I'm leaning yes though

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:58 am @wolbre04 do you think marmot is akira?

Just the way he is playing screams to me he has some sort of ability that gets to be reckless and silly

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:53 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:52 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:51 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:46 am Hey guys, I bet I'm gonna get lynched after many, many hours of wonderful speculation and analysis.

or if you're good you could just like.... jump in and get involved in the wild deluge of speculation that's taking place

Now we are back in the Epi argument about carelessness and whether he's koro senpai

what

When Epi was potentially gonna be lynched people read his play as "He's careless ergo he must be Koro Sensei and got all worked up" and I'm feeling that's coming here too (maybe)

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:51 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:46 am Hey guys, I bet I'm gonna get lynched after many, many hours of wonderful speculation and analysis.

or if you're good you could just like.... jump in and get involved in the wild deluge of speculation that's taking place

Now we are back in the Epi argument about carelessness and whether he's koro senpai

Ima stay up now bc I wanna see where this takes us

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:41 am spicy is "yes compatible"?

I prefer the mild stuff tbh
But I'm also a bitch

phase* not game

Oh and regarding the d5 poll, it didnt concern me that there was a large wagon, so much, it was more the massive jumping around so late in the game that was startling

I can't stay up much longer, I have early class and I'm incredibly sleep deprived, might jus view the thread here and there when wake up. Good luck guys, let's keep turning this ship around

TLDR people bouncing between Penny and Nova and ending up on Dom

Dom: 7 - INH, Wolbre, DDL, Mac, Juliets, JJJ, Kyle (First to last)
Dragon D. Luffy: 1 - Nova
INH: 1 - Marmot

Did not vote: Dom, Penny

These are just color coded randomly aside from the top portion ^^^

Vote Order:
JJJ -> INH
Marmot -> INH
INh -> Dom
Wolbre04 -> Dom
DDL -> Dom
Juliets-> Dom
Mac -> Dom
DDL-> Nova
JJJ -> Nova
Juliets -> Nova
Nova -> DDL
JJJ -> Penny
Nova -> Mac
LC -> Penny
Juliets -> Dom
JJJ -> Dom
Kyle -> Dom

@JaggedJimmyJay
refer to the very top for order of ppl jumping on Dom.

Juliets, you, and kyle were the last 3 to jump on him. You came from penny and juliets came from nova. Kyle didnt vote before this. Seems a little opportunistic I guess.

Marmot sheeped your vote JJJ and then went afk after you moved it.
Maybe Kyle and Marmot are with Penny? I'm fairly certain Penny might be "offline" and still submitting stuff, otherwise is the afk scum.


EDIT: Juliets at the top is dead and was town, fixed

Dom: 7 - INH, Wolbre, DDL, Mac, Juliets, JJJ, Kyle (First to last)
Dragon D. Luffy: 1 - Nova
INH: 1 - Marmot

Did not vote: Dom, Penny

These are just color coded randomly aside from the top portion ^^^

Vote Order:
JJJ -> INH
Marmot -> INH
INh -> Dom
Wolbre04 -> Dom
DDL -> Dom
Juliets-> Dom
Mac -> Dom
DDL-> Nova
JJJ -> Nova
Juliets -> Nova
Nova -> DDL
JJJ -> Penny
Nova -> Mac
LC -> Penny
Juliets -> Dom
JJJ -> Dom
Kyle -> Dom

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
refer to the very top for order of ppl jumping on Dom.

Juliets, you, and kyle were the last 3 to jump on him. You came from penny and juliets came from nova. Kyle didnt vote before this. Seems a little opportunistic I guess.

Marmot sheeped your vote JJJ and then went afk after you moved it.
Maybe Kyle and Marmot are with Penny? I'm fairly certain Penny might be "offline" and still submitting stuff, otherwise is the afk scum.

Penny quotes:

Pennywise wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:06 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:58 pm @Pennywise @avita

who are you? tell me your secrets

who do u know, where are you from

I'm someone from NF.
Only know Avito (I think you mistagged him there by the way), novaselinenever and DDL.
Don't think I know anyone else in this game.

I'd tell you my secrets, but I have none.

Kyle and him going back and forth. He knows Nova and DDL from another server. Really not much to see in his 17 post iso :/ .

Stuff relative to Penny:

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:48 pm Sounds like pennywise has gotten good at lasting long into games

Dizzy: We have the power to change that. >:)
Seriously though, I was leaning towards voting Penny now. I think he hasn't any other games here going on? He's newer here and I would expect more activety excitement? I have absolutely no impression of him in this game. And nobody has brought him up or brought attention to him before now. With this in mind the meta from Dragon was very helpful. Penny not being all over the thread is according to the meta to be expected. But it still leaves me with no read what so ever. And having someone who has a playstyle who's not very pro town and hard to clear, but effective as scum, doesn't sound great to me. Sue me.

Penny, please give a couple of cents?

Dizzy questioning Penny and he never responds. Penny is described as being very effective as scum here. Could he just be on hidden online status and lurking/having abilities randomized?

More from Dizzy (Who died that night)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:37 pm I still don't feel I have a real hard scum reads that sticks. So either I'm missing stuff, or the scum team is like Dom, Penny, Sig and Avito or something. Both options are lame lame.

Interesting.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:31 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:28 am

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 8:07 am I'm going to have to re-evaluate my reads. I tend to think one of Pennywise, INH, and I guess Dom are bad but that leaves 3 more that I've got marked as "good" must be bad. I feel the need for some GTHs to get a feel for some reads. If not during the night maybe we can do some tomorrow.

Base on....probability?

You mean my thinking that Penny, INH or Dom is bad? Yes, I'm basing that on probability. I could be dead wrong and all the baddies are active but my experience tells me we have at least one who is inactive.

She died the following night after.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:47 pm I'm going to go ahead and vote Penny for the vig and will change it if I think nova looks worse.

[VOTE: Pennywise] aubergine

More from Juliets

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:36 pm So Long Con has voted Penny - I wonder if thats because there are too many votes on Dom.

Potentially LC and Penny teammates?

Also, I would like to point out that a LARGE number of people shifted off Penny and went for Dom in the last day. If someone has a vote order that would be great. We could garner info from that maybe

Other than that, there really isn't much on Penny aside from "Let's kill the inactive penny bc he might be mafia"
I still think he could be firing off abilities randomly as scum
@JaggedJimmyJay

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:38 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:33 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:31 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 am @JaggedJimmyJay did you see my list
its
mac
kylie

Yes, thank you. If you're here for a bit, I have a task for you to undertake. Are you here?

okay

You suggested Marmot and Pennywise were the players you struggled most with when looking for inspiration to read them as civilians. For one or both of those two, I need you to comb through their posts and also others' posts relative to them to identify who the most likely teammates are.

We can still make this happen if we build an entire team.

I'll start with penny

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] I'll fulfill the quest or whatever it is

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:31 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 am @JaggedJimmyJay did you see my list
its
mac
kylie

Yes, thank you. If you're here for a bit, I have a task for you to undertake. Are you here?

okay

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm @MacDougall my current thoughts

juliets and long con are civs, Mac is also a civ, I am a civ.

jay is either a civ or extremely bad but I think probably civ

jack doesn't look good right now. some prodding here would be good

Dom, pennywise, and...inh are absent and should be vig killed as soon as feasible, I think.

The other 5 players off the top of my head I don't have reads on yet. I should probably fix that.

Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
novaselinenever
Scotty
wolbre04

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:02 am trustfallin'

Dragon D. Luffy - nothing in his posts particularly stands out as glaringly bad. not afraid to give reads early and often
insertnamehere - basically absent for the first half of the game but the posts he's made since returning have been really relevant and insightful at times
JaggedJimmyJay - at times has seemed genuine, right now feels like one of those times.
Kylemii - smells like lemon lime soda
Long Con - i have a role in mind for him, but also this long con looks like a civ. which is weird and notable because i've scumread long con in pretty much every single game we've played in together since my return.
MacDougall - has felt like a genuine mac, he's loud and brash and feels like he's flinging a sword around
Marmot - entire game has been a series of being gone a lot so i guess if he was mafia he'd maybe make more of an effort to be here?
novaselinenever - largely absent, at least recently, but has at times felt genuine, outrage at the lynching of inactives strategy felt genuine
Pennywise - hm...? mafia are less likely to abandon a game after 3 cycles in a new play area because they would hate to miss the opportunity of making 3 new lifelong friends.
wolbre04 - not afraid to have feelings that go against the norm

Over 300 posts and he has written Marmot's name twice. Not a good look for Kyle.

If I had to guess right now I would say that the scum team is Marmot, Long Con, Nova and Kyle.

omg i think we did it

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] did you see my list
its
mac
kylie

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
Mac
Kyle

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:34 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 am Jay looks civ, tinfoil aside. He is playing the same as in FE. I mean I am open for a tinfoil but at this point I'm not sure if the risk is worth it. Maybe later after we actually lynch baddies. Mac is decent, albeit less obvious civ than Jay. But what I said about Jay applies to him.

I like Kyle in this game. Juliets I like somewhat less. I don't remember who said that but shes mostly making easy points and stuff that is easy to agree with. Can very easily be civ, but also easy for a bad to make. I haven't liked wolbre's guts since the start and I think his pursue of INH is forced. Could see myself voting there if we don't lynch an inactive. Ok scratch that I have someone I wanna lynch other than Marmot.

Did I already run out of active players? Well the others are interchangeable. There is some big tinfoiling about INH since he actually bothered to show up which could suggest team coaching, but then again, he is an inactive who came back. A mislynch of him is worse than a mislynch of say, Dom. The problem is that by picking one now we are basically gambling the game. Then again the town is so fucked that gambling may not be a bad idea.

DDL. There is a lot of content here about players who are still alive. Do you still hate Wolbre?

Dragon D. Luffy

DDL is a civilian because he has picked up some of the work left by previous (now dead) town leaders and is contributing more than fluff and gifs.

insertnamehere

INH is a civilian because, after a period of being AFK, he has posted steady, substantial content and returned to the thread while he hosts another game (even if he can only do so briefly at times)

JaggedJimmyJay

JJJ is a civilian because I can tell that he's really trying to gamesolve and struggling, yet not giving up hope yet. His reads line up with an early town leader (Mac) and he is seeking more of a consensus on his reads, as they have been flawed.

Kylemii

Kyle is a civilian because he hasn't done anything noticeably bad in the grand scheme of things as far as I can tell. He also isn't afk.

Long Con

LC is a Civilian because he was mislynched in Greece and is playing similarly.

Macdougall

Mac is a civilian because he has analyzed and come up with his own reads on the game. These reads and POV were made without simply copying others and line up similarly with JJJ, a town leader.

Marmot

Marmot is a civilian because he got mislynched in Greece when behaving like this and is fun to have alive.

novaselinenever

Nova is a civilian because he is probably genuinely silenced. Additiionally, he raised the question regarding if the town leaders should be looked at with further scrutiny after a trend of mislynches and bad vig shots.

Pennywise

Pennywise is a civilian because.... Probability states he has just over a 50% chance to be one.

Penny and Marmot have the worst cases, probably followed by LC (?)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:02 pm I dunno but the first sentence is lame. It's a lie for a start given who votes for who is one of the most key things to analyse. It's also aggressive, dismissive and rude.

It's not a lie. I seriously don't care. I am not confident enough in any of my perspectives to start pulling these Suspect X voted for Suspect Y, so I'd better lay off Y type thought processes. I think it's bad logic anyway. I don't trust nova OR DDL. I don't trust anybody.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:02 pmIf DDL voted for Nova and then randomly switched to Kyle, and Nova also voted for Kyle, how would you read it? Answer me without the lame bs snark please.

I really don't think I'd care. Everything depends upon context, but generally -- not a big deal to me.

But if you don't care isn't that just against the spirit of trying?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:52 pm Soulvoice, eh? I'll follow you to the end dude.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Gross
Sheeping a soul read as a soul read is
disgusting

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:10 pm nova may be silenced.

Well who else has not spoken. if the silence is still random it couldve hit penny for all we know
Nova is prolly just afk again

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:27 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:24 pm what do the different hot sauces represent?

Hey scummy. I am ... voting you. Take that.

I don't want to be dismissive of you but I'd rather we skip to the part where you give opinions on who's mafia instead of doing whatever it is you're doing right now.

So you're saying you're mafia?

i'm not mafia

Are you certain

Ugh.
I like JJJs responses and something inside me is making my scum read of him shaky

[mention]Pennywise[/mention]
[VOTE: Pennywise] aubergine
Get in here kiddo

Could an inactive be Koro Sensei

Idk why I tagged JJJ there

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:51 pm [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

He's had energy under pressure, but he's also said cranky stuff that I struggle with (a lot of omgus and conspiracy theory).

Yuma Isogai: Basically Vanilla bc his lover is dead
Hinata Okano: Odd Night Vote disable, may not be unlocked
Nagisa Shiota: Night Phase ability unlock
Rinka Hayami: Basically a % vig, may not be unlocked
Yuzuki Fuwa: Gains knowledge of Vote manipulation, may not be unlocked

Rinka or Hinata should take unlock priority if they haven't been boosted yet

Smog: RBer
Grip: Silencer
Gastro: Strongman
Akira Takoaka: Basically lynch immune for our purposes

Gumball Guy: Unlyncheable and unkilleable, unlocks abilities

It's 5-4-1
With Nova and Penny being gone it's 3-4-1 or 4-4-0 worst case scenario and 5-2-1 best case scenario if we can assume they're afk again.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:03 pm I don't blame him. Why should he do all the hard work just because he's best at it?

You seem to have some notion of what to do, Kyle, so maybe you can be our JJJ today? I trust you ok I guess.

I'm not blaming him and saying that if he's town he's not doing enough, I think he's just mafia though.

I'm not trying to salt the wound jay, I don't think you're just a townie who has been very wrong most of the game, I just think you have gotten caught with your pants down now that it is crunchtime

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:47 pm @wolbre04 if you do trust me, why do you trust me?

I think you've become cognizant of Jays 3 ring circus and kinda half questioned his logic on a post about killing inactive earlier

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:47 pm Haha wolbre my boy, there are four mafia members so you’re going to need some more.

JJJ
Penny
Nova
Marmot

There's my GTH scum team

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm @wolbre04 do you trust me?

Refer to post above. I put you in the genuine column

Jay just seems to be indifferent I guess. He says that he's annoyed we keep lynching Town but, it just doesn't feel genuine to me

DDL
INH
JJJ
Juliets
Kyle
LC
Mac
Marmot
Nova
Wolbre

Is who we have left.

People I feel are genuine:
Juliets
Kyle
LC

People who idk if they remembered their 1986 MacIntosh Desktop login:
Penny
INH
Nova (Spoilers, I feel like he's about to vanish off the face of the earth again)

People who I am okay with:
DDL
Mac (led town into the fire but less so than JJJ imo)
Marmot (Who?)

People who I think are scum and everyone is giving them a free pass:
JJJ

In order of who I think we need to lynch if we make it thru the night: JJJ, Marmot, Nova, Penny, INH, Mac, DDL from least to most likely.
If we really insist on lynching an inactive, well I guess it's Penny, Inh/Nova tied for second most favorable to lynch. But tbh I think it was just an excuse by jay to get him closer to a victory and then sip his cup of town tears

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:15 pm Okay Wolbre who should we lynch then?

Jay

Colorized version of Jay (left) standing next to town (right)

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 5:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 2:47 pm It’s about to be LyLo and I don’t trust any players. It’s pretty wild.

You trust me.

Jay is Civ, Wolbre. He's not on the table. Ever.

Doubtful. He seems to have a lack of urgency and we have mislynched five people in a row. Betting on him being Town is like betting on the horse with no legs

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:40 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:38 am Has anyone besides nova considered that the 'town leaders' have helped led or vote on wagons to lynch 5 townies consecutively

Yes, we were talking about that yesterday. Is there someone specific you are thinking of?

I'm very tired and will be back later, just got off work

Has anyone besides nova considered that the 'town leaders' have helped led or vote on wagons to lynch 5 townies consecutively

Townread*
I thought you meant he tried to vig ddl