Oh, it all makes sense now!Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:15 pm Plot twist - I thought day ended 1 hour later on D1. So I was trying to figure a way to move the lynch to dunya or TH. Then Quin flipped...
Oh, he was wondering, because he totally town-read you and I think he would have lynched me over you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:18 pmI didn’t have time to think it through very well. Just seemed like my best chances of winning.
Thanks for running it!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:13 pm Thanks everyone for taking part in my latest batch of nonsense.
it's so lonely out here, waiting to die in space.See? If you "know" someone's good, you are going to only see what confirms that. Thanks for proving my hypothesis.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:12 pm You know what's bad. I purposfully skipped the parts in dunya's iso I knew I woldn't like.
Woah, okay. How is this a low blow? I'm saying personally, I know it won't help me to go back and re-read both your and Dizzy's posts right now because I've made my mind up, and will see things in that shade. I realize I have flipped my views on you multiple times, and already addressed that.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:04 pmThat's not what you said before. Like we literally had this discussion today where I made that argument but you were town reading me in one post then called my dizzy suspicion fake and scum shaded me, then continued to town read me. Going a bit low on the blows here, Luna.
Both you and dunya can look SO genuine. Since your recent posts I'm convinced you're town. No hard feelings at all that you think dunya is town over me. She has played an excellent game, and I would probably chose the same if I were you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:49 pmI haven't forgotten anything. If I'm wrong here, then I'm very sorry and I'll take full responsibility for it. I feel I've made up my mind. Trying not to overthink it now.
Is it just me, or does re-reading someone never really help? If I think they're bad, then their posts just sort of confirm that, and if I think they're good, their posts also make me think I'm right. Also if Duyna is bad, she is very confident in the way she's played.
I know, but I sort of have other obligations and I can't sit here for very long. Also I tend to needlessly stress myself out over mafia games, so stepping away is probably best.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:27 pmthe game's not over yet, you have like 3 and a half hours. you haven't even attempted to iso me and actually try and have a solid case against me.
luckily, i'm probably going to sleep soon so you can have dizzy all to yourself without my influence if my insomnia doesnt keep me up.
also, i love how this LyLo is Girl Power Represent, and we all did an amazing job playing and getting here so let's pat each other on the backs.
What if I told you I'm town?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:16 pmYes. I'm considering all this. I mean, simple answer is it has to look believable. But this is some seriously elaborate shit if it's you. I've pretty much decided on Luna. Just obsessing a bit.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:07 pm dizzy, why didn't i keep my vote on you when luna was there? i could have easily kept building and building my case and being determined it's you and no one else, and luna was happy to park it on you too. why did i read and make comparisons and decide luna was bad and flip to her?
why did i flip on mac in the same way when i was sure speed was town, even though speed was scum reading me and mac was practically TOWN CONFIRMING me all over the thread?
how would i have nk'd sabie when i wasn't here before she role claimed?
if i was quin's teammate and saw that it was 2-2-2, why didn't i do something more to remove the vote off him? do i strike you as the type of person who would see her teammate in a three way tie and decide to go to sleep and leave town to deal with it without influencing it till the very last minute?
To whoever my town partner is: I'm sorry I didn't do a better job helping you find the last scum.Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:03 pm I'm laughing so much. But seriously though, It's tough being in the final three. I'm pretty sure I'm getting mislynched today, because I'm so bad at defending myself and I'm playing with two really good mafia players. I'm just hoping I put my vote on the right choice, so that if we lose it's not completely my fault.
Are you capable of a scum win this magnificent? Because I know I'm not, but I suspect this is nothing new for dunya if she's scum.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:41 pm I'm moving my vote to Luna. I don't like how she followed dunya on me after she was so ready to vote dunya in the start especially. If dunya is scum then I will be equally pissed and impressed.
I'm going to break from this game a bit, but I'll be back later and see how I feel. I also really do need to iso both of you and go through it all. I really really hate being in final 3 and it has happened way too often to me lately. I used to be killed N1 all the time. I miss that.
Just overall frustrated tone read. But that could have been clouded by me seeing you as being bad.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:31 pmHow does it look bad to you?
Clever reasoning on trying to protect sabie. I sort of like it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:37 pmGurl. The reason I voted sabie was actually to protect her. She was widely town read and if she was in face PT, then that is bad, cause town read players get killed faster. I couldn't make a case for her and didn't really do much with that vote, so you can criticize me for that, but not from me being scum but from being town. And if I was scum here why the loving duck would I even say that I thought sabie was PT in the first place? I felt relevant to me cause I just played a game where scum feigned ignorance for who PT was (a couple of Masons who basically outed themself on D1). I can't answer if I would've killed sabie or not, but I probably would've killed who pushed me most which is you.
dunya said: "If speed dies, it's Luna." and I replied with, "no, if speed dies it's probably dunya," So if dunya's scum, she would want speed dead to frame me, and if you're scum you would want speed dead to easily pit dunya and I against each other, then just pick a side and win.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:25 pmCards stacked against him how? I hadn't cleared Speed, had you? Also, read what I wrote to dunya about the kill. I would not go in to final 3 with her in the game considering we've been arguing for most of the game. But I guess you have to vote someone.
Dizzy, if you can convince me you're town, I'll vote dunya with you. It was just too easy to see dunya as town yesterday when we were the only two in thread discussing things.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:59 pm If dunya is scum there's no real point in me doing anything as long as Luna is voting me though. Unless I want to play yatzy >_>
I agreed with her a little too much and she felt uncomfortable about that and flipped on me.
If you're scum, then yes. But I think speedchuck had the cards stacked against him, and was going to get killed no matter who is scum. So you or dunya could have made that same decision.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:09 pmI could believe this actually. I did also think that I believe you believe you can successfully argue against me (and you probably can..) But maybe I'm making it too complicated. I'm a path of least resistance scum player and I would kill you 100% of the time. Speed town read me, so the choice between him and you weeeeeeell.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:40 pm With differing kills, we would probably have had different lynches and D5 wouldn't look like this, so speed, Luna and you wouldn't have been here for me to choose from on N4, but let's assume everything else remained the same and only sabie and SD had been nkilled with one failed kill just like it has been: I would have killed Dizzy easily.
Killing speed would have been silly after Dizzy has spent the majority of the game going after me, so I wouldn't risk having Dizzy and Luna in LyLo with Luna being rather disengaged from the game and easier to influence on me being bad considering she and dizzy were both on the Quin lynch and as she self admitted: that's sorta given her a free town pass to ride till end game. Killing Luna would have been silly considering speed had a strong town read on Dizzy. You can call this wifom, but anyone who knows me knows I'm a straightforward scum player. I don't play mind games and try to do something that other people will think I would have done the opposite of just so I don't look bad.
Luna, do you think I killed Speed?
My nice person pitfall? No it is not a strategy. It actually makes me see the town-side to everyone even as I suspect them, and causes confusion when I don't keep my reads consistent. As scum I find it difficult to build "fake" cases on people because I feel bad for doing it. As town, I end up "buddying" other people I think are town and end up mislynched for it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:13 pmTalk a little bit more about this please. So you think it's a strategy but a bad one. As town, as scum?
What should I do to help convince you otherwise? Just the way Dizzy popped in here and what she said looked bad to me. How do you not see that?
Have you counted how many times I've gone back and forth on whether you're bad or not? Because it's a lot. I know you're good at mafia, and I've been scared to read you as town this whole game, even though I acknowledged that some of your posts look town.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:04 pmthis doesn't seem genuine to me. for example, I had a town read on daisy. speed came in a interpreted her post with a scum-mindset. I took that post and corrected it, because I was seeing Daisy with a town mindset so I see town motives in her actions rather than scum ones. I have never town read someone and come back 10 mins later when asked about them to shade them as scum, then continue to read them as town. it's...weird.
Feels like Dizzy just flipped a coin here on who to vote.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:51 pm Actually, I'm going to vote dunya and see how that feels. I don't know between the two of you, but dunya is the one I've felt the worst about at points in the game. To whoever is town, I promise I will make an effort to catch up, reread and read properly when I can be around after work.
I was asked a direct question by TH, and when I though about it, I realized your suspicions of Dizzy were strange. I didn't think I had to align my immediate reaction with all of my previous reads on you.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:47 pmLunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:35 pmMy read is that if dunya posts a lot and seems excited about solving the game and is being helpful, then she's town. But I don't think I've played a scum game with her, so I'm not sure how good she is at pretending to be town when she's not.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:33 pmMeh I'm on the fence now. Does anyone feel like they have a clear grasp of what her town and scum games are? I know Daisy is townreading her.can you explain the thought process between these two posts? they were made like 10 mins within each other. in the first you are town reading me, in the second you're basically saying i'm being fake and if i am town i have no business being fake, because all my accusations would be genuine so i'm not sure how that happened.
the first post also strikes me as someone who wants to say something good about someone, but immediately cancel it out with something bad. it's almost as awful as the "interesting" post you made imo.
I was sort of distracted by Hogwarts early on in this game. Even so though, the games have been different and my roles have been different. I see how it's hard to compare them.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:43 pm damn it, the only real comparisons are cowardly and DFS and in both of those, like Hogwarts, you made a more concentrated effort at "solving" the game than kinda riding your townie cred on the quin lynch and not much more till the last stage and even then, you were still using other people's arguments rather than bringing anything of your own.
the timing of this game was unfortunate, since you were in Hogwarts, but I dunno man. I gotta sleep on it. on one hand, you seem so genuine when you tell me how scummy you think you look and i wanna kinda believe you and hug you and win this game with you, but then i reread your iso here and i feel kinda cold and unwelcome.
Yeah, I might be pulling a Dizzy if I were scum, and just hide from the game. Instead I'm here and actually trying to solve it with you. The "why it's Luna" post just made me sigh and think, "yeah, I did all that scummy looking stuff, and dunya wants to know why, and telling her I don't know isn't going to cut it," So I just wanted to ignore it. But I still responded to it as best as I could. I haven't learned the art of not looking scummy in mafia games. Like really, I don't understand what I should or shouldn't say, and getting called out on that when I'm town just puts me in a very confusing spot.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:15 pm I know that game very well, I followed it post for post. I mean, I realize what you're saying but every time I read you in Hogwarts I feel less convinced this is the town you so I dunno if that's in your favor to have me looking at Hogwarts again (I did ftr, I looked at your last day before being lynched).
one thing that caught my attention was how you aren't as forceful as scum, "I'm less forceful as scum. And have more of a "you've got me" attitude when I get cornered."
that was similar to the attitude you gave me after i presented a "why it's luna" post on you. wouldn't you say that?
Good thing we have another day to figure this out! Hoping [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] is able to come back and talk for a bit.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:43 pmHonestly I should be 100% clear from this post. This is not what I say to a scum buddy if I have just voted to lynch them. Seriously. You can believe what you want, but that is just something I would not do if I was teamed with Quin. Period.
Sort of minimal, but could be Dizzy trying to get Quin to talk more in thread. He never answered her btw.
Oh, funny. I tend to do that too.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:52 pmno. please don't. I have a terrible new bad habit of scum reading everyone who does that.Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:51 pmWould you rather me continue to yell that you're scum? Would that make you feel better?
okay, can do.
