The Syndicate

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Something like this for my scum picks. I have no time to contribute otherwise tonight. I'll be around tomorrow though.

It’s worth noting that Iron Dwarf will not die if he’s lunched, unless he’s already been targeted for a kill.

I’m at work now, and I will do this when I get home, but I want to see from everyone their guess at who the five scum are. Don’t give me rainbows, don’t give me town reads, just give me the five names that you GTG read scum.

Yeah I failed my action too. I feel like someone must have had a power that blocked everything or something.

This game is a disaster.

I just considered how difficult it will be for town to win if Iron Dwarf does end up being scum. The quinwagon ain't happening, it looks like, so fuck it.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I still think quin should be lynched tomorrow regardless of how Wilgy flips.

Anyone have a tally now? I’m at work so I can’t really do one. Consider my vote for quin at the moment. I think my biggest question to everyone else is: would a town quin really not send in his night action? Before that I was equally okay with lynching him or Wilgy, but that makes me more confident in quin. Since it’s happened two nights in a row now without explanation,I’m clearly being targeted by a scum misdirector, and quin can misdirect but has a way too convenient excuse for why it wasn’t him.

So are people more for a Wilgy lynch than a quin lynch? I’d really prefer quin, but at this stage the mafia have so much sway in the vote that I really think we need a consensus, especially with potential vote manipulation and such.

I don’t like quin claiming not to have sent in his role. Doesn’t make sense. Even if Long Con misdirected him, who’s to say he wouldn’t have hit a civ on his own, or wouldn’t hit scum with a misdirect. I’m calling bullshit and would rather lynch him than Wilgy now.

I don't have the time to go back and check on this at the moment, but is it just me, or is spirtyo showing a major uptick in productivity right now? I can't recall this effort from him up to this point. Some of that may be simply because there are so many players in this game I don't know and he just didn't register with me before, but it seems an abrupt change to me.

Going through Quin's ISO, I can understand some of the complaints others have made. His two main suspects for the majority of the game have been lapluie and nutella, both I think with reasonable cases that I don't really agree with but can see where he's coming from. But they're easy cases to make. And he was reluctant early in the game to commit to any reads. I'd put him on my neutral pile, and really only consider a lynch of him if one of my town reads was the alternate choice.

Holy crap, there is almost literally nothing of substance in Wilgy's ISO. I could get onboard with that lynch.

I would think Kenway was scum if not for dunya saying certain posts of his confirm to his town meta in a way that those same posts would look scummy for anyone else. So I'm unsure how to read him, but I'm deferring to dunya and thinking he's probably town.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:38 pm @gwilikers6 can you explain your town read of Kites please?? I just searched your mentions of him in your iso and you suspected him before

Half the reason I suspected Kites early was some of his posts looking like they were fishing for information, and that gave me a scummy vibe. Both of these have been subsequently explained and make sense from a town perspective. I'm referring to the long-lost brother thing and the gender thing. It also helps that I used my night action on him and got a completely innocuous PM that clearly only included the public role his class has.

Also, I forgot Kenway existed. Gonna look through his as well.

I think the only town reads I'm genuinely confident on are Kites and speedchuck. Gonna look through Wilgy's and Quin's posts now.

I just realized I'm an idiot and there's a space in that first one so that is not wilgy. Someone who's not an idiot figure this out plz.

Also worth noting, I did not remember to let the wyvern through last night.

Oh that's clearly Long Con in the second too.

Fuck it, I've got nothing except "wilgy" on the first part. One thing interesting is I don't think I got Long Con's message, cuz the 'w' in 'wilgy' is lower case, and, based on his post history, Lon Con capitalizes proper nouns and such.

*k** **** w* g*

*** * k*** **ng ***

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:32 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:27 pm I used my power on Long Con. Didn't get a result but doesn't look like it matters.

did you get a pm saying your power failed or did you just not receive a result?

Never mind, I just jumped the gun and hadn't received it yet at the point I posted this. I'll post it in a minute, just wanna see if I can decode it first.

I think Marmot is scum and he is my preferred lynch.

I used my power on Long Con. Didn't get a result but doesn't look like it matters.

Pretty sure we’re fucked.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:08 pm Cuz Gwilkers claimed to have x2 vote power when voting for a baddie.

So either he is BSing us, or ID is a civ, or there is another ability in play. The last is unlikely since the host just gave away that there was only one vote manioulation ability in this lynch.

I took that as very heavy sarcasm and that there are certainly more vote manipulation abilities. Don’t take my word for mine, it’s in the OP.

I just kinda assumed the knight was one-shot bulletproof. I’ve never seen a role that could also survive a lynch.

Oh wow...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding

It is 100% perfect the way it is now.

Probably not.

In theory, of course.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding

It is 100% perfect the way it is now.

Vote for iron dwarf

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

I think that makes the scenario I outlined happen.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:39 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:22 pm My ability is just that if I vote for anti-town (or a few of the other roles, but neither Jay or I_D is one of them), my vote counts for two. So yes.

Point of order, I think your role also refers to backgrounds, not just roles.

True, it says anyone with a mercenary background. But if it's between two people we're thinking about lynching anyway, it's worth the risk.

My ability is just that if I vote for anti-town (or a few of the other roles, but neither Jay or I_D is one of them), my vote counts for two. So yes.

It would be best if someone broke the tie to make put one of them (let's say I_D cuz I'd rather lynch him) ahead by one vote. Then I can put my vote on Jay and it'll take effect if Jay is mafia, otherwise I_D will die.

Does it end when that poll does? Damn that’s soon.

What is the tally? When does the day end? I don’t wanna lynch Jay.

Marmot, Kenway, Iron Dwarf, rundontwalk, Long Con.

These are my guesses for scum.

I’ve lost all interest in this, I’m sorry guys. I’ll try to catch up when I get out of work today.

Can someone just quickly tell me what sig is accused of getting caught in a lie about. I’m not quite understanding.

I mean it’s pretty clear I was redirected of Kites is claiming responsibility for that message.

This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:38 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:34 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:14 pm Hmmm I didn't get a result from my power last night...

Never mind, just a little delayed. Potentially interesting results. I’ve gotta think about what this could mean when I’m less drunk.

So your team have time to decide how you will deal with this? Yeah good one.

I targeted Jay. He said something about sig. the weird thing is I don’t see why he’d bodyguard sig of all people.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:14 pm Hmmm I didn't get a result from my power last night...

Never mind, just a little delayed. Potentially interesting results. I’ve gotta think about what this could mean when I’m less drunk.

Hmmm I didn't get a result from my power last night...

Like think of all the other roles that can effect the mafia kill. What would be the point of the speed thing if none of it mattered for the kill?

I mean it kinda has to be.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:53 pm do we know if the mafia kill is effected by the speed/priority level of the killer's role?

I see no reason why it wouldn't be.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:53 pm also relevantly @gwilikers6 is a magic user now adjacent to @sig on the list so he has to say "let the wyvern rider through tonight" or whatever to let sig use his power (if he's going to)

LET THE WYVERN THROUGH TONIGHT.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:44 pm gwilikers is part of badguyia now. :O

O shit! As far as I can tell nothing has changed.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:43 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:41 pm I just checked and I’ve only been scum 5 times, the last time was 6 years ago. O.o

If JJJ doesn't jump at this fallacy he is scum too

Please explain how this is a fallacy. I’m not town because I haven’t been scum in a long time. I’m town because that’s what I was assigned.

Oh never mind I forgot one last summer on the PWYW forum.