The Syndicate

Thanks for game Quinn. And sorry fellow Townies for my inactivity in the later cycles. I always came in late and the one day where I was on time, I was silenced

Good game from the Mafia team.

Nice.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:28 pm Phone is dying. Consensus needed.

Dom or you.

14mn left. [mention]Kylemii[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] If you were to vote between Mac, JJJ and DDL, who would you go with?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:59 pmnow is not the time for a vote and pray.
that seems like a misinterpretation of the game's current events
How come?
too many inactive civ votes going into lylo is a significant danger

That is true but that isn't my main concern. I'm ok with voting inactives, IF, they've all been isoed and each has a case against him. That doesn't seem to be the case. DDL voted Dom, then immediately settled with me. After, I came swinging, they all jumped on Pennywise.

This leads me to believe that " too many inactive civ votes going into lylo is a significant danger " isn't their main concern. An easy mislynch might be one.

Here's the thing about Pennywise,

He's active on another forum I'm part of, so there is no excuse for him not be active here, unless he has not interest to play this game and got completely disengaged. As a scum, I don't think he would act like that and penalize his team when there are this close to winning. He usually have a good thread presence, and he's a decent fellow.

This is another thing, that DDL should have considered tbh tbf.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:14 pm Nova, what are your thoughts about Jay? You said you liked the way he entered the day. Any other things to consider about him?

I liked his entrance only in comparison to Mac, DDL and you. I haven't liked much from him. I was going against him D3, I think and I'm not totally against voting him now. I didn't like how he brushed aside his case on INH, ignored the questions from INH, and started jumping on wagons in order to "vote together, vote as one".

What about you?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:59 pmnow is not the time for a vote and pray.
that seems like a misinterpretation of the game's current events

How come?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:03 pm @novaselinenever did you read the parts you missed

Yes, I did. I'm all caught up.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 7:45 pm when it comes down to it, that same block of 4 players still has the least number of reasons to be townread, but it feels like shooting fish in a barrel
You mean the JJJ, Mac and DDL?
no :0

i meant the quiet ones. nova, inh, penny, and wolbre(?)

juliets how do you feel about novaselinever's fiery return
I'm so tired Kyle. I can't decide whether I am being bamboozled by nova or he is legitimately good. He seems to be asking the right questions. I would feel better if I knew why he was gone, it was so sudden and surprising. But I guess bottom line I'm not voting for him today.

Real life reasons like most of us sometimes. I was also gone from the main game (JJJ's job) too.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

This is where I'll be voting today. I refuse to vote against an inactive just because they're inactive. They may very well be bad, but now is not the time for a vote and pray.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:53 pm @novaselinenever I haven't seen Mac as bad through this game but I guess anything is possible. I just have no evidence for it.

He's been wrong one too many times this game, and his vote pattern today is something I'm having trouble with tbh tbf. So far he's been jumping on wagons, very opportunistic ones. Inactives mostly. I've seen him vote for himself too.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:24 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:20 pm What is the consensus on Wolbre ?
I don't have a clear picture of him as civ or as bad. He is null to me. Maybe I will re-read him. Do you have a clearer picture?

I can't really recall much of him tbh. I'm about to ISO him.

What do you think of MacDougall?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:04 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:03 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:01 pm nova call me when you can make a vote on me that is not OMGUS. Literally every time I accuse you of anything you reply with "no u".
Ok

Been after you since D1 but giving you some benefit of the doubt. But my vote on you is an OMGUS
Alright.

Do you have any post of mine you want me to address?
Not so 1 post in particular, but your whole approach to the Avito/Nova(me lol) situation. That's the origin of why I'm uneasy with you, and your play today frankly isn't helping. I haven't played much with you, but I would be really disappointed if a Town DDL, after failing to catch Mafia for 4 phases, would resign to just picking randomly between low-posters and lynching one of them. That doesn't sit right me. Same with MacDougall.

I don't know about Juliet. About JJJ, I'm giving him a pass, since I very much liked his entrance this day phase, analysis and push on INH. He got lost in the way, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, for now.
I responded to his "push" on me with a refutation of something I thought was a clear misinterpretation of one of my posts. He didn't respond.

What do you make of that? Him not responding, then jumping on my wagon. Now voting Pennywise and trying to make it about pride and not loosing to inactives, while still considering you (according to him).

What is the consensus on Wolbre ?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:05 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:00 pm [VOTE: Pennywise] aubergine
What about your case on Insertname?

Also, what exactly is giving you a Town read on DDL? I failed to see that tbh tbf. He's red, as one can be, for me. Been flirting with it since D1.
Nova we made a pact that because we can't afford more mistakes we would challenge each other on reasons for votes. Can you be any more specific on what has bothered you about DDL since Day 1?

I just answered that quoting him. I don't see much challenging, though. DDL vote Dom - > DDL vote Nova, JJJ and Juliets follow. Where is the challenging in that?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:04 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:03 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:01 pm nova call me when you can make a vote on me that is not OMGUS. Literally every time I accuse you of anything you reply with "no u".
Ok

Been after you since D1 but giving you some benefit of the doubt. But my vote on you is an OMGUS
Alright.

Do you have any post of mine you want me to address?

Not so 1 post in particular, but your whole approach to the Avito/Nova(me lol) situation. That's the origin of why I'm uneasy with you, and your play today frankly isn't helping. I haven't played much with you, but I would be really disappointed if a Town DDL, after failing to catch Mafia for 4 phases, would resign to just picking randomly between low-posters and lynching one of them. That doesn't sit right me. Same with MacDougall.

I don't know about Juliet. About JJJ, I'm giving him a pass, since I very much liked his entrance this day phase, analysis and push on INH. He got lost in the way, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, for now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:01 pm nova call me when you can make a vote on me that is not OMGUS. Literally every time I accuse you of anything you reply with "no u".

Ok

Been after you since D1 but giving you some benefit of the doubt. But my vote on you is an OMGUS

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 6:00 pm [VOTE: Pennywise] aubergine

What about your case on Insertname?

Also, what exactly is giving you a Town read on DDL? I failed to see that tbh tbf. He's red, as one can be, for me. Been flirting with it since D1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:56 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:20 am nova would be in my POE, so sure.

That’s my whole case.
What about your ISO on my interaction with Epi?
Do you think that should matter in the post-Jack era?

Yes, it should.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:41 pm What is the case against me, if I may ask ?
The same against Pennywise, Dom and INH. Prolongued inactivity.
So that's the case you're going with in the last lynch before loosing majority ? What about a case on my posts, and my interactions? Do you have any intention of solving the game?
Yes.

We talked about it, while you were not around, and some of us thought we can't win the game with 4 inactives, no matter how good we are at solving the game.
I have been inactive for just the last cycle and I have my reasons. You're hosting a game on NF that I'm playing, and I'm also inactive there. I was active before that.

> we can't win the game with 4 inactives, no matter how good we are at solving the game.

This is a bunch of bullshit. This isn't the mindset of someone trying to win the game, or solving it. So what, a few people are inactive ? Just lynch and pray amongst them? And maybe we'll get a baddie? Is that a viable strategy when we have no more room for any mistake?
Because even if we lynch mafia among the actives, mafia can kill more actives, and they will eventually have vote majority anyway. We can't win the game if half of town isn't voting.

We have lynched all the people that looked bad. All flipped civ. So it's reasonable to expect there are 1 or more mafia among inactives. Especially considering the random nature of some kills and silencings, which suggests there are people missing them.

" We " haven't lynched all the people that look bad. You're still here. Yes, I agree that it's reasonable to expect that, but it's not reasonable to not iso their posts, not make against them, but just vote and pray. That's basically what you're doing. Going for easy targets, which leads me to believe that you aren't Town. You're flip-flopping between me and Dom is blatant, in that regard.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:45 pm how confident are we that there's a vampire in the empties
If by empties you mean just Penny and Dom, 56%

If it's Penny, Dom, and both nova and INH, 80%

Yeah sure. The dream-team of 4 inactives is about to sweep this Town

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:42 pm Fyi, Town must lynch correctly today or we loose majority.
Yes Kyle and JJ brought that up earlier. It would be helpful if you could tell us where you have been - you have not posted in days even though you've been online. And who do you want to vote and why?

I've been online for a few minutes each day, catching up here and on the JJJ's game. I haven't posted in neither, nor did I have the time to post.

I'll be voting DDL or Mac. Their case is inexistent, pushing a lynch against inactives when we have no room for mistakes isn't the behavior of someone who wants to win. I can't reconcile this push with a Townie mindset. This is an easy opportunity to get a mislynch, and it's what scum would do in this situation.

I'm giving JJJ a pass, because he started the day with some nice contributions and I'm not sure where he got lost in the way.

DDL has been on my radar since D1, and he's been fence-sitting ever since. I don't believe Mac is silence. Something isn't right there.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:41 pm What is the case against me, if I may ask ?
The same against Pennywise, Dom and INH. Prolongued inactivity.
So that's the case you're going with in the last lynch before loosing majority ? What about a case on my posts, and my interactions? Do you have any intention of solving the game?
Yes.

We talked about it, while you were not around, and some of us thought we can't win the game with 4 inactives, no matter how good we are at solving the game.

I have been inactive for just the last cycle and I have my reasons. You're hosting a game on NF that I'm playing, and I'm also inactive there. I was active before that.

> we can't win the game with 4 inactives, no matter how good we are at solving the game.

This is a bunch of bullshit. This isn't the mindset of someone trying to win the game, or solving it. So what, a few people are inactive ? Just lynch and pray amongst them? And maybe we'll get a baddie? Is that a viable strategy when we have no more room for any mistake?

[mention]MacDougall[/mention]'s vote is on me, even though he hasn't voted for me in the thread, nor has he post for the day. I might be wrong, but this is what I'm getting from my catch up.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:41 pm What is the case against me, if I may ask ?
The same against Pennywise, Dom and INH. Prolongued inactivity.

So that's the case you're going with in the last lynch before loosing majority ? What about a case on my posts, and my interactions? Do you have any intention of solving the game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:20 am nova would be in my POE, so sure.

That’s my whole case.

What about your ISO on my interaction with Epi?

Fyi, Town must lynch correctly today or we loose majority.

What is the case against me, if I may ask ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:09 pm I'll note that Epignosis is giving some resistance to his only counterwagon.

Town points awarded ?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:53 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm Jay, did you present any points on wolbre?
Not in any thorough manner.

There's some icky stuff starting here.
Oh yes, that whole thing was indeed icky. It reads worse in context than it did in ISO. I also asked him why he thought Dizzy knew something about me on Day 1 with no one having powers yet but he never answered that I saw. I also did notice in the ISO his attention to sig. But Mac likes wolbre which causes me concern.

linki
Don't let me liking the guy get in the way of genuine case making. If you think he is bad then vote for him. I am mostly giving him credit for actually making noise unlike a ton of other players. What do you think of Jack, Kyle and Sprityo?
I have liked Jack and sprityo up until Jay's latest post about sprityo which has me thinking. Kyle has been a non-entity to me - what do you see there?

lots of linki

What have you liked about Spirityo ? Excluding his non-vote of Kyle.

[VOTE: Spirityo] aubergine

Oh Spirityo's lynch is on the table. Don't mind if I do,

Spirityo

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
I'm flirting with voting DDL. I think that can still happen with a good push.

What's your case on him ?
I got annoyed when he made a big ugly colourful post and made out like I was bad. It felt fake. But nobody agrees so fuck it.

Oh, I agree with it. And it's not the only thing that is fake from him. He's been beating around the bush with me and Avito since D1 and sitting on the fence. Agreeing with my meta assessment of Avito but continuously throwing shades.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?

I'm flirting with voting DDL. I think that can still happen with a good push.

What's your case on him ?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pm No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".
I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pmAbout your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.
Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?
Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?
One day someone will figure me out, and then I'll have to do things differently.

Why should I vote Kyle ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:57 pm General question to all.

If you could kill one player right now who would it be?

For me it would be Epi.

Spirityo.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pm No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".
I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pmAbout your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.
Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?

Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:53 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:36 pm [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
I wasn't expecting this after D2. Catching up on D3, I saw this coming. You've been laying out a foundation for this vote slowly all day.
I honestly don't think, you suspect me at all.

Are you bad ?
Thanks for this pointless thing, now please address me concerns.
It's not a pointless thing. But I'll expand on it afterwards. What are your concerns ?
If you think I've been "laying out a foundation" all day to vote for you, then you should already know the answer to this question.

Click

It's irritating to see this "smear campaign" type bullshit when I have been considering numerous options throughout the day. You're one guy.

No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".

About your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:36 pm [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
I wasn't expecting this after D2. Catching up on D3, I saw this coming. You've been laying out a foundation for this vote slowly all day.
I honestly don't think, you suspect me at all.

Are you bad ?
Thanks for this pointless thing, now please address me concerns.

It's not a pointless thing. But I'll expand on it afterwards. What are your concerns ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:36 pm [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

I wasn't expecting this after D2. Catching up on D3, I saw this coming. You've been laying out a foundation for this vote slowly all day.
I honestly don't think, you suspect me at all.

Are you bad ?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:15 pm @novaselinenever, Avito said before he died that the part I underlined below is a lie. Given that he flipped civ I see no reason for him to have lied about that. What do you say about his claim?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:23 pm About Pennywise, he is a low-hanging fruit. He was inactive, he doesn't really have any content and interaction to analyze and get a read on him from them. He is new.
You have voted for Avito and lapluie. Do they not qualify as low-hanging fruit?
Avito does, Lapluie doesn't. Avito, however was here and had time to post. He also had time to throw his vote on me again today while quoting a post not even game relevant. That tells me that he doesn't have any attention to play this game seriously, that's usually his baddie behavior. He feigns detachment from the game and flies under the radar. He usually gets vigged where I'm from for this.

I maintain what I originally said. He might not want to admit it, but he's been vigged more often than not. Our last game together, we were both baddies and the same behavior he had in this game led him to being vigged.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:07 pm @novaselinenever how are you feeling about Sprityo and DDL today and why? I am feeling pretty good about them both after reading through sprityo's iso. DDL seems to be engaged in helping the town, at least from my perspective.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:39 pm Well, this was easier than I thought. Only two pages to catch up on.

I'll be voting here, [VOTE: Avito] aubergine.

I could also go down with a Spirito or DDL's lynch, if that is ever happening.

I haven't seen anything from Spirityo, while catching up, that changed my mind on him. I'm still not feeling good about him.

DDL does seem to be engaged in helping Town but that is something a baddie DDL can easily reproduce. So I'm not completely sold. I liked some of his posts today though.

What made you feel good about Spirityo ?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:48 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:50 pm Pennywise being inactive is not his meta, but is also NAI. We will have to lynch him eventually if he doesn't show up. Doesn't have to be now, but has to be before the endgame.

I have a hard time reading Avito cuz I dont know him that much game-wise. He is pretty laid back right now but from what I know of him that is also NAI.

I suspect nova tho. Epi made a good point and I still think his lapluie vote was forced. He could have fought for it. He just came, made what looked like a joke vote, and hours later came back and joined the sexy civ wagon available.
How was my vote on Lapluie forced ? I've seen you pushing me since D1 little by little. First it was discrediting my meta read on Avito, you then agreed with, maybe it was to eventually prepare yourself to jump on his wagon. Now it's something else. Seems like some premeditated consistent throwing to eventually hammer me. I'm watching you boy.
You made a solid read on Avito. Then you changed away from it in a sketchy way. That's the problem.

I didn't change on it but like I said he's lynch D1 wasn't going to happen. You can argue all you want that he had 3 votes on him at T. The thing is, he didn't have those votes at day's end and that's why I went elsewhere. I also had a read on Lapluie and I want my vote to matter. I liked her lynch.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:01 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 10:12 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:53 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 11:52 pm I can support a pennywise vote. I saw earlier discussion of how he’s a seasoned mafia player, one familiar in reaching endgame. I can’t place a finger where I’ve felt moved by them yet this game.

[VOTE: pennywise] aubergine
Feels like you're just throwing a vote on a low-hanging fruit and not really hunting.
nova just got my vote. sprityo gave a specific reason for his vote, and nova painted it as "just throwing a vote," established that Pennywise is "low-hanging fruit" without backing up that claim, and, despite saying sprityo is "not really hunting," has no qualms about anybody else who could fall into that category.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
His specific reason was weak. It was awkward af, and he just jumped on the wagon that McDougall started. I interpreted Mac's vote as a pressure's vote and someone wanting to here from a player that hasn't really said anything and trying to get some interactions going. I didn't interpret Spirityo's vote the same way. His mention of Pennywise being a veteran player and making it to end games was bullshit. How is that a justification for a vote ?

About Pennywise, he is a low-hanging fruit. He was inactive, he doesn't really have any content and interaction to analyze and get a read on him from them. He is new.

At that time, I had not had qualms about anybody's vote. JJJ's vote was understandable since he ISOed Avito and has been uneasy with him. The other voter was Avito himself, and I called him out on it. He's still on me since D1 without justifications, and it's something we do on another forum when messing around. Told him to stop messing around and make a case if he thinks I'm bad.
Sometimes low-hanging fruit is rotten.
He is, though. And you're the straw man.

You're reason for pushing me are horseshit tbh tbf. Just because I haven't had time to call out everybody that may or may not fall under the same category as spirityo's doesn't make my remarks on spirityo null. I see something, I call it out. I also explained why the others vote didn't ping me the same as his.
You don't fully grasp my issue with you, but I can live with that for now.

I'm here. I'm all for clearing up my name.

What am I not getting ?

Well, this was easier than I thought. Only two pages to catch up on.

I'll be voting here, [VOTE: Avito] aubergine.

I could also go down with a Spirito or DDL's lynch, if that is ever happening.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:23 pm About Pennywise, he is a low-hanging fruit. He was inactive, he doesn't really have any content and interaction to analyze and get a read on him from them. He is new.
You have voted for Avito and lapluie. Do they not qualify as low-hanging fruit?

Avito does, Lapluie doesn't. Avito, however was here and had time to post. He also had time to throw his vote on me again today while quoting a post not even game relevant. That tells me that he doesn't have any attention to play this game seriously, that's usually his baddie behavior. He feigns detachment from the game and flies under the radar. He usually gets vigged where I'm from for this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 10:12 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:53 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 11:52 pm I can support a pennywise vote. I saw earlier discussion of how he’s a seasoned mafia player, one familiar in reaching endgame. I can’t place a finger where I’ve felt moved by them yet this game.

[VOTE: pennywise] aubergine
Feels like you're just throwing a vote on a low-hanging fruit and not really hunting.
nova just got my vote. sprityo gave a specific reason for his vote, and nova painted it as "just throwing a vote," established that Pennywise is "low-hanging fruit" without backing up that claim, and, despite saying sprityo is "not really hunting," has no qualms about anybody else who could fall into that category.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
His specific reason was weak. It was awkward af, and he just jumped on the wagon that McDougall started. I interpreted Mac's vote as a pressure's vote and someone wanting to here from a player that hasn't really said anything and trying to get some interactions going. I didn't interpret Spirityo's vote the same way. His mention of Pennywise being a veteran player and making it to end games was bullshit. How is that a justification for a vote ?

About Pennywise, he is a low-hanging fruit. He was inactive, he doesn't really have any content and interaction to analyze and get a read on him from them. He is new.

At that time, I had not had qualms about anybody's vote. JJJ's vote was understandable since he ISOed Avito and has been uneasy with him. The other voter was Avito himself, and I called him out on it. He's still on me since D1 without justifications, and it's something we do on another forum when messing around. Told him to stop messing around and make a case if he thinks I'm bad.
Sometimes low-hanging fruit is rotten.

He is, though. And you're the straw man.

You're reason for pushing me are horseshit tbh tbf. Just because I haven't had time to call out everybody that may or may not fall under the same category as spirityo's doesn't make my remarks on spirityo null. I see something, I call it out. I also explained why the others vote didn't ping me the same as his.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:50 pm Pennywise being inactive is not his meta, but is also NAI. We will have to lynch him eventually if he doesn't show up. Doesn't have to be now, but has to be before the endgame.

I have a hard time reading Avito cuz I dont know him that much game-wise. He is pretty laid back right now but from what I know of him that is also NAI.

I suspect nova tho. Epi made a good point and I still think his lapluie vote was forced. He could have fought for it. He just came, made what looked like a joke vote, and hours later came back and joined the sexy civ wagon available.

How was my vote on Lapluie forced ? I've seen you pushing me since D1 little by little. First it was discrediting my meta read on Avito, you then agreed with, maybe it was to eventually prepare yourself to jump on his wagon. Now it's something else. Seems like some premeditated consistent throwing to eventually hammer me. I'm watching you boy.

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