The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:35 pm 2019 leaderboard is now Mac 7, Nova 6 and Speedchuck/Nutella 5.

Let's go @novaselinenever. Bring it on fiend.

That's why I wanted you to be a Witch this game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:33 pm So that's like several civilian wins in a row btw. The era of Mafia dominance is over.

Led by Mac and Nova

I can't read you for shit Sprit lol

Good job guys!

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:52 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:17 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:11 pm Folks, I'm just doing things.

We all are. We got 2 witches already

But we don’t know that Sabie was do we? I’m confused.

We don't mislynch around these parts. If she got lynched, she was a baddie.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:18 am I'll just assume we got a baddie to keep the D1 streak alive

The streak is still alive

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:08 pm I'm sitting down with a glass of bourbon for about a half an hour or two before bedtime. I am exhausted and dissatisfied with my work.

That said, I'm willing to answer anything anybody wants to know during that time.

Do you bet on the NBA?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:53 pm @Sloonei

Since you’re here, who do you suspect that isn’t me.

Fair remarks. I'd have to disagree though.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:17 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:06 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:21 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm
Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

I'll trade one townie for one wolf all day every day.

Optimistic.

If there is a counter claim, one is a wolf. That’s not optimistic. It’s a fact.

That's if there is one. There might no be one with the night kills being janitored. And even if there is one, there are so many variables due to the no flip that makes not a 1-1 trade.

Labelling witches incentives for fake claims as something one would take every day (twice on sunday? ) is optimistic.

You put forth a hypothetical where a counterclaim got soupkilled.

It's preceded by "no flips", which is basically the main thing that the game revolves around.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:11 pm Folks, I'm just doing things.

We all are. We got 2 witches already

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:06 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:21 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 pm
I don’t know what you’re going through and I’ve put minimal thought into this game or its setup. Do what you think is best. You don’t need my input.

I asked for it though. I perceive it as a critical moment for the civilian win con and want a discussion.

Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

I'll trade one townie for one wolf all day every day.

Optimistic.

If there is a counter claim, one is a wolf. That’s not optimistic. It’s a fact.

That's if there is one. There might no be one with the night kills being janitored. And even if there is one, there are so many variables due to the no flip that makes not a 1-1 trade.

Labelling witches incentives for fake claims as something one would take every day (twice on sunday? ) is optimistic.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:09 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:39 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:30 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

I'm in a different timezone, so I am running out of time for a vote. It's almost midnight here, so I need to vote now. Out of the two players who seemed to be getting votes, Jack and Sabie, I picked Jack because I'm not totally sure about Sabies guilt and I was suspicious of a few people choosing to vote for her. Since we need a majority, Jack made the most sense. It wouldn't make sense for me to put one vote on someone else and fuck up the majority. Unfortunately, I can't be more helpful than that because my sleep is more important.

This doesn't make a damn lick of sense. sabie had four votes and Jack one or none when I looked.

It was 3 for Sabie against 2 for Jack, I believe.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:10 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:47 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:40 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:39 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:30 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

I'm in a different timezone, so I am running out of time for a vote. It's almost midnight here, so I need to vote now. Out of the two players who seemed to be getting votes, Jack and Sabie, I picked Jack because I'm not totally sure about Sabies guilt and I was suspicious of a few people choosing to vote for her. Since we need a majority, Jack made the most sense. It wouldn't make sense for me to put one vote on someone else and fuck up the majority. Unfortunately, I can't be more helpful than that because my sleep is more important.

What makes you hesitant about Sabies guilt?

Honestly, Sabie has posted very little, so there's not much to go on. She's just had it out from Mac, which I'm not 100% sure I get seeing as it' pretty much the start of the game and there has been so little to go on. He/she hasn't even mentioned anyone else, scum or otherwise.

Doing another read, I suppose the only other thing Sabie did do is try to lead us away from Luna yesterday, and I suppose Mac was being difficult, so he was an easy target. Damn it, now I've confused myself again. I've actually talked myself into Sabie being scum, which means I need to re-evaluate other people as that was the only reason I didn't put a vote there.

Curse you, I shall never sleep. >.<

You talked yourself into nothing. You are her teammate.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:37 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:22 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Explain why you think this?

In her iso reads post, the Sprit read is extremely tame when she has ammunition to fake a scum read there and dig on him. She isn't taking a stance there and just narrating what he has said so far. He was also present during d1 and I don't think he commented on the suspicions on her and the wagon (she was a popular scum read). He avoided it unless I'm remembering wrong.

Epi had a little interaction with her that stroke me as contrived. Same as her calling him lazy and her read on him, and that's actually what led to the interaction. He seemed to shade her for it and he ended up calling her a witch for one of her posts in my interaction with her. He ended up voting Mac.

There are no flips in this game.

I repeat, there are no flips in this game.

Let you think on how my strategy as a witch would change knowing that.

Another witch down, good job guys

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:25 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:19 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:16 pm Except those awkward in thread exchanges "Oh we're definitely not a private chat together *evil laugh*"

What is this in reference to?

What do you mean?

I don’t know a more straightforward way to ask that question.

The post I quoted, what were you talking about?

The no flip making most indicators obsolete.

Sloonei, is reading back on D1 something you see yourself doing down the line?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:16 pm Except those awkward in thread exchanges "Oh we're definitely not a private chat together *evil laugh*"

What is this in reference to?

What do you mean?

Except those awkward in thread exchanges "Oh we're definitely not a private chat together *evil laugh*"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:12 pm 2 straight days and Spacedaisy hasn't voted. Unfortunate or...

I would expect timid voting patterns to be less likely as a scum tell in this game compared to standard setups.

Basically everything should be thrown out of the window for this setup

2 straight days and Spacedaisy hasn't voted. Unfortunate or...

I have 2 votes.

I'll hammer Sabie I believe unless we can get 4 on Jack

We'll need 1 vote on one of them for me to hammer btw. Just me voting puts them as 5.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:39 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:30 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

I'm in a different timezone, so I am running out of time for a vote. It's almost midnight here, so I need to vote now. Out of the two players who seemed to be getting votes, Jack and Sabie, I picked Jack because I'm not totally sure about Sabies guilt and I was suspicious of a few people choosing to vote for her. Since we need a majority, Jack made the most sense. It wouldn't make sense for me to put one vote on someone else and fuck up the majority. Unfortunately, I can't be more helpful than that because my sleep is more important.

What makes you hesitant about Sabies guilt?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:37 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

Oh the handful of players that I’ve interacted with directly, he seems the most full of poop. Plus he’s on Mac’s compatibility list.

He moved the goal posts on his shading of me in just a couple of posts, and it felt as though he was more concerned with painting me in a negative light than actually developing a read.

Is he on your compatibility list?

Who else is full of poop?

I don’t have such a list

I’ve interacted with like 4 people. Jack was the only one whose presence suggested poop to me.

"The most full of poop" implies a presence of poop elsewhere.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

Oh the handful of players that I’ve interacted with directly, he seems the most full of poop. Plus he’s on Mac’s compatibility list.

He moved the goal posts on his shading of me in just a couple of posts, and it felt as though he was more concerned with painting me in a negative light than actually developing a read.

Is he on your compatibility list?

Who else is full of poop?

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

Where's supa town Sprityo?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:53 am Actually during the poll I was considering between Luna and mac and at the time thought mac seemed more sketchy. If hes being truthful about his claim all it says is that I didn't vote for one of the witches, which is not really a case against me. Other people also have thought mac was suspicious besides me.
I mean is it possible that the person who had that role check role was killed off then anyone could claim it without a counter claim?

Also epi had kind of claimed to be the one who role checks earlier but no one had really responded to it that I can recall.

All your contribution so far is centered around Mac. Mac being weird, Mac suspecting you, you suspecting Mac, Mac claiming. Do you have any other thoughts?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:31 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Why?

Do you actually want the answer to this? If you were, you'd know that the answer would probably be somewhere down and probably quote that one. Seems to me that you're just flooding the thread with questions and quick remarks going off others posts to generate contribution. Doesn't feel like the genuine posting while catching up

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:21 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

I don’t know what you’re going through and I’ve put minimal thought into this game or its setup. Do what you think is best. You don’t need my input.

I asked for it though. I perceive it as a critical moment for the civilian win con and want a discussion.

Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

I'll trade one townie for one wolf all day every day.

Optimistic.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

That was quick.

All right I'm back

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:34 pm Jack had his vote on me without suspecting me. Luna was the counterwagon. Jack stayed off her wagon entirely when he could have caused her lynch in earnest. Then Luna "scumread" him out of nowhere.

That's a teammate.

I remember this. It was weird, and his explanation was a joke I think.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm The easiest way around it simple, we can follow mac on his hunch. And if the vig activates ktonight that means that Luna was a civ and we lynched another civ today.

Brick doesn't count as a mislynch.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:25 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm Sloonei could also be compatible withluna, since Muriel was absent.

Lol what?

Mac has revealed Luna was a witch. So now we can look at who Luna is compatible with. Muriel was replaced by Sloonei because Muriel was absent. With no interaction to judge from Alina could conceivably had been teammates with Muriel/Sloonei.

Unless I’m mixed up bad missing something I thought this was straightforward. Am I confused?

Of course, they "could" be compatible. That's like default compatibility.

It's similar to scum-reading someone that hasn't posted. They could be scum lol

So you want to ignore a possibility? That’s seems incredibly shortsighted to me

I don't think we should ignore it, however I don't think it warranted that observation. Felt like an observation that is the fruit of an analysis and you have reason to believe it's the case shading him.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:22 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Explain why you think this?

In her iso reads post, the Sprit read is extremely tame when she has ammunition to fake a scum read there and dig on him. She isn't taking a stance there and just narrating what he has said so far. He was also present during d1 and I don't think he commented on the suspicions on her and the wagon (she was a popular scum read). He avoided it unless I'm remembering wrong.

Epi had a little interaction with her that stroke me as contrived. Same as her calling him lazy and her read on him, and that's actually what led to the interaction. He seemed to shade her for it and he ended up calling her a witch for one of her posts in my interaction with her. He ended up voting Mac.

Who did you check Mordefly?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm Sloonei could also be compatible withluna, since Muriel was absent.

Lol what?

Mac has revealed Luna was a witch. So now we can look at who Luna is compatible with. Muriel was replaced by Sloonei because Muriel was absent. With no interaction to judge from Alina could conceivably had been teammates with Muriel/Sloonei.

Unless I’m mixed up bad missing something I thought this was straightforward. Am I confused?

Of course, they "could" be compatible. That's like default compatibility.

It's similar to scum-reading someone that hasn't posted. They could be scum lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm That's underwhelming.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:18 am I'll just assume we got a baddie to keep the D1 streak alive

Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm Sloonei could also be compatible withluna, since Muriel was absent.

Lol what?

That's underwhelming.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm What would you do?

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

I don’t know what you’re going through and I’ve put minimal thought into this game or its setup. Do what you think is best. You don’t need my input.

I asked for it though. I perceive it as a critical moment for the civilian win con and want a discussion.

Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:46 pm Yo spill it out. The number of roles that could have information is low, you're a dead man walking if you're truthful.

Linki

You witch.

What's the hurry? The day is young. I don't want to do it and then have someone make a really logical argument as to why I shouldn't have.

The hurry is that there's going to be a lot to discuss post revelation. With no flip and the soup kill being a thing, there is nothing stopping witches from claiming a role and a guilty check on anyone. You could be one.

The hurry is that there is no logical argument as to why you shouldn't finish what you started when you're a dead man walking. The number of roles possibly having information is very limited, so you're basically dead lol. NK or Soup kill, you're gone.

The risk of you narrowing the target of soup kills by claiming is a non-sense argument 'cause witches will figure out your role one or another, by killing you at night or trying to soup-kill you guessing one of the few roles possibly having info.

Yo spill it out. The number of roles that could have information is low, you're a dead man walking if you're truthful.

Linki

You witch.

No objections. You're already too far gone.

A confirmed scum flip is worth it. It can help is navigate the game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:29 pm I misread Nova’s post but my point stands.

There was typo in it lol, but still it's meaning was obvious