The Syndicate

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:29 pm Looks like I was right about Nutella from Day 1. Epi had me fleeced though.

All my posts started with the letter L this game.

My bad for lynching you

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm
Host Notes
Regarding the ratio. The short version: despite having played Mafia on-and-off for 13 years or so, I had never heard of Mountainous set-ups until Jay and Nova had a conversation about it. Oops!

The slightly longer version: when it was clear we were stalled short of my ideal size, I deliberated for a long time between 10v2 and 9v3, and consulting the available literature on balance (which some of it, I see now, talks about Mountainous — oops again) I couldn't settle on a good ratio. 9v3 felt like it might be overkill, but 10v2 felt like it was heavily skewed against the scum — catch one and, knowing how good these players are, the game could be immediately over. In the end I realize I hyped up the players we had (a compliment to you all) and while I can’t anticipate everything, I'm sorry if anybody feels cheated.

So 9v3 was not a decision made carelessly, but it seems to go against what's understood to be balanced, and again, I apologize. It’s not ideal, but I hope people still had some fun and walk away with lots of juicy notes on each other, if nothing else. Thanks again for playing, and don't forget the other games in sign-ups now!

Thanks for the game!

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm Epi when you switching to get the dub?

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

Good game baddies

Should have trusted my gut feeling on Nutella, and made people follow my vote there lol

Epi switched to Reywas

Switch back to Reyawas. I'll go with you and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right and we loose, I'll feel vindicated which is a win inn my book

Baddies are going to switch votes and win the game.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies
vote epi pls
then that makes it a 2/3 chance for a lynch of my choice to happen

i will when you do it tho

I'm on him.

Epi when you switching to get the dub?

Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies

So you're saying Reywas and Epi are giving themselves up rn?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm

you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?
its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?
It's the optimal play. But not overdo it.
thats not fucking optimal

if thats actually what they are doing then their brain is comparable to that of a vegetable

Lol

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm nova you are literally voting luna who has both of your scum candidates on her

Luna > Reywas

I'm waiting to switch on Epi

Where are you Nutella?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?
its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?

It's the optimal play. But not overdo it.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm @novaselinenever
@novaselinenever

hey
guess what
you also put luna into a group with rey

so why not vote him?
what the fuck

That's the group I'm the least sure about lolol

They switched one after the other to G-Man last phase which is giving me some weird vibes. G-Man flipped civ so I don't understand, and he was tied with you.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -

So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?

I'm still on

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:12 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:05 pm All right, it's an Epi and Luna team then
So now I've graduated from throwing nobody under the bus to throwing my entire team under the Greyhound.

Wow. I've come a long way mafia.

Who do you pair with Luna?

How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:08 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:05 pm All right, it's an Epi and Luna team then
what

I have reywas as Town. I don't see Reywas/Epi

I see Epi/Luna so I'm voting Luna 'cause she already has 2. We can lynch Epi though

All right, it's an Epi and Luna team then

Reywas give me something to chew on

Or Luna and Epi?

Luna and Rewyas?

[mention]nutella[/mention] You've played a lot more game with Epi. What do you think about the "Epi never busses" thing? Sloonei and JJj dealt with it in different manners.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:25 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:23 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:21 pm Why is a No Lynch not seriously considered? Y'all acting like there is any lock town amongst us. Trimming down might not be all that bad, especially if it's done by Mafia. Could get some insight on possible pairs.
what if the most townread player here gets killed
what happens then
what info do we collect?
Who's the most townread player?
nutella tbh

What if your D2 read was correct?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:26 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:23 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:16 pm epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:04 am no
i dont see luna being with either spirit or reywas
please before you go head first into this consider everything that can make them scum
Which is it MM?
did i say it was impossible?
dont take meaning from words i never said

Lol what?

I'm not taking any meaning. I'm asking you which is it. Do you see Luna being bad with reywas and Sprit or no?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:22 pm nova i have a case in my iso
just read that tbh
it should be on the 4th page

I read that, but I don't think you're appreciating the context of the whole shtick. I don't know the dude but apparently he hasn't played in a while so he's probably just looking to have fun, and he doesn't strike me as desperate for a win to come up with a shtick just so that he can avoid contribution like you said. It has a civilian trademark all over it. If he flips bad, he basically kills any trust he'll ever have. There is also a bit of confirmation bias from you where you're using your read on Epi to ping Reywas. If it was from a flipped baddie sure, but not other read.

I think the most damning point against him is his switch to G-Man breaking the tie between you and G-Man. It's especially surprising since he had you as one of his few scum-reads, and he wrote about it not image posted. But that begs the question, why would he make that switch?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:21 pm Why is a No Lynch not seriously considered? Y'all acting like there is any lock town amongst us. Trimming down might not be all that bad, especially if it's done by Mafia. Could get some insight on possible pairs.
what if the most townread player here gets killed
what happens then
what info do we collect?

Who's the most townread player?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:16 pm epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:04 am no
i dont see luna being with either spirit or reywas
please before you go head first into this consider everything that can make them scum

Which is it MM?

Why is a No Lynch not seriously considered? Y'all acting like there is any lock town amongst us. Trimming down might not be all that bad, especially if it's done by Mafia. Could get some insight on possible pairs.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:19 pm So is Reywas getting lynched again?

I just read the full phase, and I couldn't tell you

ebwop - why?

[mention]reywaS[/mention] If you could explain your switch to G-man last phase from MM who you drunk posted about him being scum, that'd be great. Already asked a couple times

So is Reywas getting lynched again?

I just read the full phase, and I couldn't tell you

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:11 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:06 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:26 pm @novaselinenever do something
actually do something
if youre a villager im going to be beyond fucking pissed

because you arent doing anything to help yourself here and are making people needlessly suspicious of you
Chill. I wasn't online to "do something".
when you were on you barely put out any content

I was busy the whole weekend. Just catching up when I had little time

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:33 pm nova, where you is?

I'm here baby

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:26 pm @novaselinenever do something
actually do something
if youre a villager im going to be beyond fucking pissed

because you arent doing anything to help yourself here and are making people needlessly suspicious of you

Chill. I wasn't online to "do something".

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:02 am nova - I'm just surprised he's posted more than five times.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:17 pm one more day until mylo
we have room for one lynch

Nah we're here

No Lynch wasn't an option in the previous polls

I'm weirded out by Luna and Kanye's switch to G-Man

Yikes

Epi, how about you do your own exercise?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:59 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:38 pm What about reywaS?
I can (mostly) understand rey behind his getup and alcohol. I think he's fine.

Did you understand him calling MM bad?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:54 pm Why is Reyas on G-man?
well, you see, he has to throw his teammate under the bus

linki: nvm?

What about you?

Why is Reyas on G-man?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:18 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:56 pm That bit of reading didn't do much for me, so I want to propose something else:

Assuming three mafia and G-Man is bad, who is his teammate and why?

Assuming three mafia and MafiaMenace is bad, who is his teammate and why?

Assuming three mafia and Sloonei is bad, who is his teammate and why?
Luna. Some soft and indirect defense of G-man in her push against me. Twisting my suspicions and painting some points as optimistic. Quick to jump on MM as well. There was that Sprityo's post as well about a baddie amongst non-voter that G-Man hijacked and they had a weird interaction. Seemed really team-matey.

Sloonei maybe

Me, lol. j/k. I'm blanking on this one for now. Gotta have to re-read some stuff

Hmm Luna as well I think. I got pinged by his comments about Space Daisy. Felt like he knew something we didn't, and how he implied that we won't be able to solve the game without dealing with her. His dealings with Luna are also noteworthy, especially how he keeps mentioning her entrance and how he's neutral on it. Feels unnatural
No, you're doing it wrong. You can't have the same person for two.

Why?

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