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by novaselinenever
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4

rezz plz
by novaselinenever
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Turnip Head wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:31 am
novaselinenever wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
To be fair I think yesterday was pretty normal. Sprityo got 5 votes and I didn't accidentally set the whole world on fire.

I was gonna endorse you tho
Oh yeah not saying you went off on your own lol. It's just that I think without it being clearly said, the discussions and lynch wagons won't be 100% normal. There is always that feeling that only one person hold all the power and has the final say. Stating that the lynch poll will decide who gets burned might be a good thing and get more real wagons and discussions.
by novaselinenever
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Don't know who to vote. I just want the person to have it to use just as a tool for breaking lynch polls tie, and announce it as such. . We could benefit from having a normal day instead of one dude having all the power.
by novaselinenever
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Turnip Head wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:06 am No one wants the flamethrower? :scared:
I want it :noble:
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:28 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:01 pm INH didn’t answer despite multiple posts, indicating reluctance.
Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:10 pm If anyone thinks I should change my mind, now would be a great time to make your case :srsnod:
Kill nova.
No :eek:
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by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:07 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:26 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:59 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:52 pm Hmm tough question. I wouldn't have killed Pou and DH. TH probably not also. Other than that not too sure, pretty much every one else would have been fair game.
Bad answer. Not a tough question for a civ because what does a civ have to lose by thinking like a scum? Basically salad and a non-committal answer for no reason. Scum
This is dumb. It is a tough question because I'm not scum and I can't think like one on demand. As I said with the exception of those 3, I'd kill anybody.
I think it’s pretty easy to say “I’d kill JJJ because he’s supertown” or “I’d kill Big Rick because it would confuse the hell out of everybody.” Or any other reason you may have had as scum to kill someone that you can use to relate to this game’s dynamic should you be town. But it’s only hard if you actually ARE scum and struggle to answer in a way that is believable since you don’t want to admit to your actual thinking ...
What I wrote is what I think. I wouldn't have killed those 3, and the rest is fair game.

If I didn't want to admit to my actual thinking, I would have said a name and given a bland explanation like the examples you just gave and branded as "easy".
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:59 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:52 pm Hmm tough question. I wouldn't have killed Pou and DH. TH probably not also. Other than that not too sure, pretty much every one else would have been fair game.
Bad answer. Not a tough question for a civ because what does a civ have to lose by thinking like a scum? Basically salad and a non-committal answer for no reason. Scum
This is dumb. It is a tough question because I'm not scum and I can't think like one on demand. As I said with the exception of those 3, I'd kill anybody.
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:10 pm If anyone thinks I should change my mind, now would be a great time to make your case :srsnod:
He's one of the three so all good. Feel stronger about Eloh though :ponder:
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] What are we having for dinner?
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:33 pm I would've killed WIlgy. Worst case scenario he dies and as he's a low-poster and the least active player, nothing from D1 would've tied me to it.
That's very honorable of you.
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Wouldn't have killed Wilgy too tbh. I'm not wasting a kill on an inactive :shrug:
by novaselinenever
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Hmm tough question. I wouldn't have killed Pou and DH. TH probably not also. Other than that not too sure, pretty much every one else would have been fair game.
by novaselinenever
Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Spirityo, Eloh and Speed :workit:
by novaselinenever
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3

Turnip Head wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:55 pm My my my how the turns have tabled.

Anything could happen :shifty:
What are your policies?
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 2

Third time might be the one. Fingers crossed!

Let me be your hero my fellow townies. No exercises, no voting ultimatum, just some good old democracy and freedom. Nova with a flamethrower is one of you, one of us. I'll follow the lynch poll, and my suspects do not take priority over yours. The only instance where my word would decide is in case of a tie in the lynchpoll.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:52 pm If I get torched, look at everyone who suspected me as well as the people who have illustriously led us to 2 town torchings against any clear public consensus.
:ponder:

A bit too dramatic no?
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

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by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:37 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:26 pm *cracks my knuckles, spine, and left knee*

Alright:

That's a lie, and a pretty disgusting one at that. You could believe it though, if it makes you feel better about yourself.
How is it a lie? you made one post one day zero and buggered off until day 1.

There was. She was using it to paint Luna in a bad light. "Give the guy a chance" highlights that. As if Luna's vote is dooming Mac from showing up or contributing. 1 vote isn't going to pressure someone. It did relate to what Eloh was saying and I interpreted Eloh's post as a way to frame Luna's vote and fabricate a scum read. If what she meant was "That's a bad reason to vote him and you should do some actual hunting" she could have gone another way about it without attacking her, and setting ground for her eventual scumread of Luna. The latter just strengthen my take on the post.
The worst thing eloh said in that post was "unless you ARE bad" implying lunalee is scum. "Give the guy a chance" doesnt highlight any kind of painting. If anything there was no pressure at all because the votes were more symbolic than anything yesterday. So in a hypothetical situation, why would lunalee just drop the vote on someone "because theyre not here"?

REGARDLESS im not talking about Eloh or Lunalee. Im talking about Nova. And i dont understand how you go from "over-reacting much?" to "fabricating a scum read"

The underlined isn't false, because I never said you did. I said "if" and I'm going off the aside mechanic in case everyone had shown up and voted, so not being in your hit list. I'm not sure how you aren't seeing that. On top of that, the underline is calling you out on how you went about it. Using the flame-thrower to avoid contribution, and setting up a dumb benchmark for a lynch.
Hm. I'll say I mustve misinterpreted the 'if" part of this, but even still, I stand by why i didnt vote.
Nothing wrong with that.
:suspish: At a bare minimum i expect reasons for voting someone. There IS something wrong with that. It's also a personal peeve of mine in any game i play.
It wasn't lazy. I'm not bad.
:suspish:
I'm not dismissing anything. The "nah" is me disagreeing with his take. I can't disagree with something without it being negative talk? Wow. Lol
"nah." can be read quite differently than "no, because X" or "no i dont think so"
Why would I have to reference DH? This is dumb. And it's even dumber to think there was work done. You're grasping at straws. Come one now! This doesn't make no sense.
It's as simple as saying "when DH said" or at the very least bringing up what I had said to townslip. Even quoting what you think it was, because we sure as heck dont know what you think is a townslip. Supporting evidence to claims is pretty important. I assume this was the post you were referencing?:
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:17 am
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:10 am On a serious note, the mafia is gonna organize votes to give it to them

Our best option is talking it out and picking three people we should give it to
Sprityo is either townclear or an absolute legend and is assimilated.
No one else shares this tunnel vision this guy has" What does this even mean? We're supposed to all have the same scum-reads?
No one is sharing your suspicions of eloh based off of what YOU think she is suspicious for, AKA the whole "overreacting" thing you said.
I don't think you are this daft, are you? The whole point of my post is that not everyone lives in the same time zone. People might come in later than others and it's not because "they don't read the thread". Jesus. Ain't that obvious?

Again, this is not dismissal lol.


Everyone knows when the game cycles are, it's not a mystery. I know im almost always asleep when day starts/ends because that's 4 am.
There is a point, so that they contribute and share their thoughts. Killing the person they suspect the most without having aired the suspicions and getting some thoughts on their case is just wrong. THE EXERCISE SHOULD NOT BE FOR THEM TO USE IT AS A WAY TO ABSOLVE THEM FROM CONTRIBUTING
And what is to stop them from doing just that? the "wrong" thing? At any rate there's other ways the executioner can contribute besides suspicions
I did make a case
Yes, after I had already made mine.
Nice fanfic :nicenod:
Nice dismissal

You should have burned me then, why didn't you? Or you couldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting rid of Mac with an easy mislynch hiding behind "you don't vote, you get lynched"? As if that had ever bagged a baddie.

More responses are in green inside the quote.
I'm a man of my word. I know mac is an outstanding player, and it's a shame he was the one lynched. it couldve just as easily been jack, or wilgy. I do appreciate the painting. In fact I highlighted all the dismissive attitude you put out. :mafia:
Who is this post quoting?
Me :scared:
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

This is firefly all over again :stare:

Am I crazy? Or am I so sane that every one just blew their mind?
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 1

Elohcin wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:31 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:05 am
Elohcin wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:17 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Calling dibs on casing Elohcin.
I will ask again...why are you so hell-bent on me? You aren't even around here much and you wanna keep coming after me with no explanations. Stop being weird and get your head in the game.
Because I think you are bad. What does "you aren't even around here much" mean? Does that fact mean that I shouldn't have any scum read nor vote or go after anyone?

I'm also pretty sure I've been here as much as you have, if not more.
You are like a kid saying he doesn't like the dinner set before him. Mom asks, "how do you know you don't like it?" Kid say, "Because I don't." Taste the damn food and you may like it, or at least have REASONS why you don't. You don't have reasons for thinking I am bad. At least ISO me and see. You may find you think I'm good.
:noble:
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

sprityo wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:26 pm *cracks my knuckles, spine, and left knee*

Alright:

That's a lie, and a pretty disgusting one at that. You could believe it though, if it makes you feel better about yourself.
How is it a lie? you made one post one day zero and buggered off until day 1.

The lie would be the latter part of your post implying that I'm a dishonest person and lie about being absent to hide from suspicion.

There was. She was using it to paint Luna in a bad light. "Give the guy a chance" highlights that. As if Luna's vote is dooming Mac from showing up or contributing. 1 vote isn't going to pressure someone. It did relate to what Eloh was saying and I interpreted Eloh's post as a way to frame Luna's vote and fabricate a scum read. If what she meant was "That's a bad reason to vote him and you should do some actual hunting" she could have gone another way about it without attacking her, and setting ground for her eventual scumread of Luna. The latter just strengthen my take on the post.
The worst thing eloh said in that post was "unless you ARE bad" implying lunalee is scum. "Give the guy a chance" doesnt highlight any kind of painting. If anything there was no pressure at all because the votes were more symbolic than anything yesterday. So in a hypothetical situation, why would lunalee just drop the vote on someone "because theyre not here"?

REGARDLESS im not talking about Eloh or Lunalee. Im talking about Nova. And i dont understand how you go from "over-reacting much?" to "fabricating a scum read"

It does highlight something. What is the meaning of "Give the guy a chance"? The votes weren't symbolic in Eloh's view and that's my point otherwise why would she continue with " Or you're trying to get rid of someone you think could be civ". That paints Luna's vote as more than it is.

In the hypothetical sitiuation, Luna's vote is just a random early vote for a not so great reason. A vote that didn't warrant Eloh's reaction.
The underlined isn't false, because I never said you did. I said "if" and I'm going off the aside mechanic in case everyone had shown up and voted, so not being in your hit list. I'm not sure how you aren't seeing that. On top of that, the underline is calling you out on how you went about it. Using the flame-thrower to avoid contribution, and setting up a dumb benchmark for a lynch.
Hm. I'll say I mustve misinterpreted the 'if" part of this, but even still, I stand by why i didnt vote.

Cool
Nothing wrong with that.
:suspish: At a bare minimum i expect reasons for voting someone. There IS something wrong with that. It's also a personal peeve of mine in any game i play.

Fair enough. My post quoting her, in my opinion, would suggest reason enough for a vote. It was clear she had pinged me
It wasn't lazy. I'm not bad.
:suspish:
I'm not dismissing anything. The "nah" is me disagreeing with his take. I can't disagree with something without it being negative talk? Wow. Lol
"nah." can be read quite differently than "no, because X" or "no i dont think so"

Different people.
Why would I have to reference DH? This is dumb. And it's even dumber to think there was work done. You're grasping at straws. Come one now! This doesn't make no sense.
It's as simple as saying "when DH said" or at the very least bringing up what I had said to townslip. Even quoting what you think it was, because we sure as heck dont know what you think is a townslip. Supporting evidence to claims is pretty important. I assume this was the post you were referencing?:
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:17 am
sprityo wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:10 am On a serious note, the mafia is gonna organize votes to give it to them

Our best option is talking it out and picking three people we should give it to
Sprityo is either townclear or an absolute legend and is assimilated.
I could have, true, but there is nothing wrong with not doing it. It ain't like I'm taking monopoly on that read, or claiming I'm the first or the only one that may have done so. And Yep that's the post
No one else shares this tunnel vision this guy has" What does this even mean? We're supposed to all have the same scum-reads?
No one is sharing your suspicions of eloh based off of what YOU think she is suspicious for, AKA the whole "overreacting" thing you said.

And there is nothing wrong with that, lol.
I don't think you are this daft, are you? The whole point of my post is that not everyone lives in the same time zone. People might come in later than others and it's not because "they don't read the thread". Jesus. Ain't that obvious?

Again, this is not dismissal lol.


Everyone knows when the game cycles are, it's not a mystery. I know im almost always asleep when day starts/ends because that's 4 am.

Then you should get my point. Say I suspect X and Y, but I show up a few hours late because of timezones, and someone already cased X and Y. I don't suspect anyone else and I would be forced to make fake cases. I don't think that's fair, and it has nothing to do with "people not reading the thread". Take for example Luna, she just cased Poutanko and she doesn't even suspect her lol.
There is a point, so that they contribute and share their thoughts. Killing the person they suspect the most without having aired the suspicions and getting some thoughts on their case is just wrong. THE EXERCISE SHOULD NOT BE FOR THEM TO USE IT AS A WAY TO ABSOLVE THEM FROM CONTRIBUTING
And what is to stop them from doing just that? the "wrong" thing? At any rate there's other ways the executioner can contribute besides suspicions

I'm not saying anything is stopping them. I'm saying they should hold themself and their reads at the same level as ours. Like a normal game. Case/vote people you suspect and discuss it.
I did make a case
Yes, after I had already made mine.
Nice fanfic :nicenod:
Nice dismissal

Meow
You should have burned me then, why didn't you? Or you couldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting rid of Mac with an easy mislynch hiding behind "you don't vote, you get lynched"? As if that had ever bagged a baddie.

More responses are in green inside the quote.
I'm a man of my word. I know mac is an outstanding player, and it's a shame he was the one lynched. it couldve just as easily been jack, or wilgy. I do appreciate the painting. In fact I highlighted all the dismissive attitude you put out. :mafia:
Well, I don't think keeping your word was worth it. Did you actually believe that you'll bag a scum through your method?

You're welcome. Same stuff this time as well.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

I am sold.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

poutanko wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:34 pm It's 11:30 pm here, I can wait for another hour but bye after that. I need my beauty sleep Image
:haha:
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

poutanko wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:56 am _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Luna
I'm yet to see if she has a focus or be more bold in anything. I don't think she's solid at all. Is it because she's really this timid or because she's scum trying to avoid confrontation as much as she could? Afraid of being held accountable if her vote target flips town?
>Voted Mac because dunno who she had to vote
>Voted Eloh because she agreed with Dharma
>Voted DDL after Eloh confronted her back saying Eloh might be town so she had to move it to someone else and chose DDL without explaining why it's him. "I really don't know who should get lynched today. Leaving my vote on DDL for now, and hoping sprityo has a better feel of the game and who's bad." this is what she said (sorry if I don't quote the post, my account have trouble with multiquote/opening multitabs/typing too long - got logged out often if I do that, you can ISO her posts). She kept saying she's confused about this and that. Her vote placements are weak. I barely see any pressure she put on any of her vote target. Those of you who town read her, care to explain this to me? Is she really this timid?
Undecided on her for now. Some of her posts came of weird to me, but I'm also seeing stuff that I reconcile with her Town play. A lot of That said, I wouldn't say she's is timid, but she often says the first things that pop her and her toughts sometimes are unorganized. A lot of indecisiveness and flip flopping. So maybe that's where you're getting her lack of focus from. I scum-read her in previous games for similar reasons and she was Town.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

sprityo wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:00 am Case against Novaselinever

In this Essay case i will go through all 16 of novas' current posts are identify why he's bad.

I've broken up posts by times posted. Theyre all grouped in that they were made within a short time of eachother if theyre within the lines.

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Post 1: Day 0 fluff, does not participate in Day 0 discussion. Already setting a pattern of being absent and not interacting. Everyone waved this off in Megaman, but in reality Novas still read the thread and laid low until I (one of the only players to suspect them) had died. And SUDDENLY he appeared to have "returned."

That's a lie, and a pretty disgusting one at that. You could believe it though, if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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Post 2:
Spoiler: show
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:57 am
Lunalee wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
because he hasn't shown up yet, so why not?
And what if he ia civ? That's a stupid reason to vote him so soon. Give the guy a chance and go after someone you think is bad. Unless you are bad and are just trying to get rid of people you think could be civ. Maybe that's it
It's just a vote though, and the only one on him. Over-reacting much?
Here he downplays Eloh's question to lunalee. Paints her in a bad light. No offering of a better opinion or solution. There was no reason to bring up the concept of it just being one vote. That didnt relate to what Eloh was saying at all. How I interpretted what eloh said was "that's a bad reason to vote him (and so soon into the day)" and that lunalee "should do some actual hunting."

So what novas did was not constructive, it served no purpose really other than to put out words into the thread and paint someone else who he probably feels is an easy target, as bad.

There was. She was using it to paint Luna in a bad light. "Give the guy a chance" highlights that. As if Luna's vote is dooming Mac from showing up or contributing. 1 vote isn't going to pressure someone. It did relate to what Eloh was saying and I interpreted Eloh's post as a way to frame Luna's vote and fabricate a scum read. If what she meant was "That's a bad reason to vote him and you should do some actual hunting" she could have gone another way about it without attacking her, and setting ground for her eventual scumread of Luna. The latter just strengthen my take on the post.

Post 3: no content

No content

Post 4:
Spoiler: show
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:43 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:16 pm My poor unfortunate soul voted for none other than the Head of Turnips

As an aside for mechanics involving the flamethrower, If there is a tie in the lynch poll i choose one of the people tied

or i just burn whoever i want.


I really need you guys to sell me on some lynches here
How about you sell us on some lynches? If you're intending on using the flamethrower in a democratic way (following the lynch poll), then this game shouldn't be any different of any other game where you would be trying to get the person you believe is bad lynched.
I had replied to this already but let me re-address it now. Novas asks me to give a reason to lynch someone else. Which is not how that works as DH is currently doing in a more practical sense. Our job as the people not with the flamethrower is to SELL THE EXECUTIONER on who to lynch. If we dont do that, then they can just do whatever they want. Now as DDL and TH have both pointed out, that isnt an excuse to have said executioner avoid discussion altogether. (my bad, oh well, go cry about it). The underlined is false because I never intended to use it democratically and didnt say as such. To wrap it up, this is lazy prompting without actually doing work themselves.

( I had my ultimatum laid out for everyone to see. And I was going to be judge jury and executioner in line with those rules. I want to state again, if im campaigning for someone to be lynched, why would i need to say it when I would be the one to just kill them anyways? This is why i left my choice in the lynch up to participation and numbers. )

The underlined isn't false, because I never said you did. I said "if" and I'm going off the aside mechanic in case everyone had shown up and voted, so not being in your hit list. I'm not sure how you aren't seeing that. On top of that, the underline is calling you out on how you went about it. Using the flame-thrower to avoid contribution, and setting up a dumb benchmark for a lynch.

Post 5: Votes Elohcin with no justification.

Nothing wrong with that.

Post 6: Says "DH is good" with no justification.

Nothing wrong with that.

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Post 7: Eloh asks Novas why he voted her (I would too because he didnt give a reason). To which Novas responds "I quoted something else from you earlier in a separate post that you have to go find and then figure out yourself what I'm thinking" essentially. He's referring to Post 2. Which boils down to he thinks Eloh is" Overreacting" to Lunalee's vote. There was nothing over-reacting about Eloh's post and it was just a lazy vote so that he would be safe from being burned. Lazy playing, no reasoning, expecting others to do the work for him. This guy is bad.

It wasn't lazy. I'm not bad.

Post 8: Disagrees with TH suggesting Luna vs Eloh is town v town with a dismissive "nah." again nothing to back it up, just a straight up no. There is no reasoning behind most anything this guy says and it's all negative talk.

I'm not dismissing anything. The "nah" is me disagreeing with his take. I can't disagree with something without it being negative talk? Wow. Lol

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Post 9: asks for the flamethrower, disappears again

If disappearing means logging off, and doing something else other than playing Mafia like you know some obligations or other hobbies. Then yes I disappeared.

If it's supposed to be a bad thing, then no and you could do better. A bad look Sprit.


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Post 10: Answers my question of "who was vote #4 for me on Day 0" with "I voted you because of" The townslip theory DH put out at the very beginning of the day. Again, not his own idea but doesnt even reference DH as the one who originally said it. Trying to make it sound like he did work, when none was done. The vote for me however would appear true. [this sentence has been redacted for later use]

Why would I have to reference DH? This is dumb. And it's even dumber to think there was work done. You're grasping at straws. Come one now! This doesn't make no sense.

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Post 11:
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Calling dibs on casing Elohcin.
Post 12:
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Casing Elohcin.
more tunneling eloh because????????????? No one else shares this tunnel vision this guy has. I seriously hope his whole suspicion isn't built off of what he perceives as "overreacting." That would be Yikes.

"No one else shares this tunnel vision this guy has" What does this even mean? We're supposed to all have the same scum-reads?

Post 13:
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:55 pm :ninja:
:ninja:

Post 14:
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:57 pm This is nice and all, but what if someone came in late and every one he suspects as already been cased? That's not cool.
"This is nice, but here's how it's not" AKA More shade throwing. The whole point of the exercise is obvious, be active, make a case, and make it good. If you dont read the thread, then it sucks for you. Again, nothing this guy has said has been positive, only dismissal

I don't think you are this daft, are you? The whole point of my post is that not everyone lives in the same time zone. People might come in later than others and it's not because "they don't read the thread". Jesus. Ain't that obvious?

Again, this is not dismissal lol.

Post 15: Asks DH if DH is participating. The purpose of the whole exercise is to build a case, i'm bring up what i put earlier, there's no point in the executioner to build a case when they can just kill they person they suspect most anyways. THE EXERCISE IS FOR SELLING A LYNCH TO THEM.

There is a point, so that they contribute and share their thoughts. Killing the person they suspect the most without having aired the suspicions and getting some thoughts on their case is just wrong. THE EXERCISE SHOULD NOT BE FOR THEM TO USE IT AS A WAY TO ABSOLVE THEM FROM CONTRIBUTING
Post 16:
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:06 pm Hmm all right that's cool. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Already placed my vote, I'll substantiate later when I come back.
No back talk finally? impressive. "i guess i'm lucky" being that he placed his vote on someone he thinks will be an easy case and disappears yet again. Who knows if he'll actually make a case since someone who doesnt even make a case will have priority over him to be lynched. Unless im mistaken in this?@DharmaHelper

I did make a case
Spoiler: show
DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:31 pm Anyway herein is the ranking for how I'll decide who to torch

- If someone presents a very compelling case against someone else
- If someone refuses to participate in the exercise
- If someone refuses to participate in the game.
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Nova is coasting through the game with no effort put forth and should be criticized for that. Nothing he has done has benefited anyone, He doesnt have a solid suspicion and literally just threw out a random town read. If he doesnt start actively trying to help the town, and stop being so negative. I can only assume he's mafia and dragging down the town morale. Sound familiar to anyone? Check MegaMan Mafia under user: DharmaHelper and user: novaselinever :srsnod:

Like always I'm open to discussion, replies, etc. In this instance it will only prove to strengthen my case, so bring it on.

Nice fanfic :nicenod:
You should have burned me then, why didn't you? Or you couldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting rid of Mac with an easy mislynch hiding behind "you don't vote, you get lynched"? As if that had ever bagged a baddie.

More responses are in green inside the quote.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:50 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 0

Elohcin wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:23 pm Hey guys...checking in. Not sure who I'll vote for yet.

I wanted to note, because the kill rotates among the assimilated, they will know how many of theme there are which is an advantage to them. This was probably very clear to everyone but I thought it was worth mentioning.
This is Eloh's first post. It reads like a carefully fabricated post. She's giving off information that even herself judge to be "probably clear to everyone". That's weird. Even then, the information itself (even if it were true) is so mundane that it doesn't bare repeating or noting. I'm not sure why she did that. The only motivation I'm seeing behind that is faking a "Townslip" :nicenod:
Elohcin wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:34 pm Ooo, smart. I didn't think it through enough. Maybe you can have my vote after all. Just lose the cocky attitude and be real, man.
"I didn't think it through enough" Sure :rolleyes:
Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:57 am
Lunalee wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
because he hasn't shown up yet, so why not?
And what if he ia civ? That's a stupid reason to vote him so soon. Give the guy a chance and go after someone you think is bad. Unless you are bad and are just trying to get rid of people you think could be civ. Maybe that's it
Here's her jumping on Luna for a random vote on MacDougall. This post just rubs me wrong. It's not because of what she's doing (calling someone out for a vote), but how she goes on about it. She's going way too hard on Luna and over-reacting on an early random vote. It reads fake and this is only reenforced by her later dealings with Luna and her scum read of her. She milked that vote of Luna's to get her a scum read on her.

The vote itself isn't great, but there is nothing wrong with a random vote especially when the reasons are given no matter how bad they are.

"What id he is a civ"? Doesn't make sense. It's a random vote. What if he isn't a civ?

"That's a stupid reason to vote him so soon"? Bolded " so soon ". No it isn't. Random vote early on are much better than random votes in the later stages of the day. That's a bad twist from Eloh.

"Give the guy a chance and go after someone you think is bad" This is as if Luna with one measly vote on Mac has doomed lol. This doesn't make sense.

"Unless you are bad and are just trying to get rid of people you think could be civ. Maybe that's it" We went from one random vote to Luna being bad and trying to get rid of people that she think are civ in two lines. Wow. This is such an opportunistic way to frame a random early vote. See that she's also excluding the simple fact that this could be a civ voting randomly. Strawman, false dilemma. You name it. It's here.

That "get rid of people you think could be civ" is a nice touch. It shows that she actually thought things through on the infected side of the game.
Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:47 pm
poutanko wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:35 am Is it normal for Lunalee to post something and then no continuation on whatever she posted before?
Not normally. And the weirder thing is that she came in right after you said that and began talking. And in her post, she says she voted Mac bc she didn't know who to vote for. I'm not sure I trust that or her.
What is weird about her coming in right after that?

"Not normally", "Weird". "Not sure I trust that of her". Going off on posts mentioning Luna and throwing some poo her way. Bad stuff.
Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:01 pm Then luna votes me bc of DHs reasons. I'd be surprised if she is good. I'm voting for her.
This right here is false. Luna agreed with some points of DH's about you, and raised some points of her own. This goes on the list of you twisting Luna's posts and actions to enable you to scum read her.

"I'd be surprised if she is good" This is the first thing you say that I agree with lol. I'm sure you'd be.

Conclusion - I think Eloh is bad. I think her "townslip" has been fabricated. I think her case and suspicions on Luna are dishonest. I think she's doing exactly what she's accusing Luna of doing, that is, trying to get rid of someone she think could be civ.
by novaselinenever
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 1

Elohcin wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:17 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Calling dibs on casing Elohcin.
I will ask again...why are you so hell-bent on me? You aren't even around here much and you wanna keep coming after me with no explanations. Stop being weird and get your head in the game.
Because I think you are bad. What does "you aren't even around here much" mean? Does that fact mean that I shouldn't have any scum read nor vote or go after anyone?

I'm also pretty sure I've been here as much as you have, if not more.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

Hmm all right that's cool. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Already placed my vote, I'll substantiate later when I come back.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:57 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

Also are you going to participate?
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:49 pm
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Today’s lynch is going to be brought to you by King Negan. Here are the rules:

Everyone will case ONE person today. Pick one person, and build a case against them. You are required to vote for the person you case. This is first come first served, meaning if someone gets cased/voted for, you can’t pick that person anymore. That’s all you have to do today to stay safe. Literally that’s it. Here are some things that will disqualify you from safety:

1. If you case someone that’s already been cased without casing someone new first, you will not be safe from the lynch
2. If you vote for someone who already has a vote, you will not be safe from the lynch
3. If you refuse to case someone you will not be safe from the lynch
4. If you do not vote, you will not be safe from the lynch.
5. If you follow the rules, but I like the case against you, you will not be safe from the lynch.
6. If you follow the rules and make 10 or more on topic and constructive posts that I like, rule 5 may be waived.

Deadline to complete this task is 4 hours before EOD. At that point everyone who isn’t safe will be placed under my microscope and I’ll fuck up whoever I suspect the most.
This is nice and all, but what if someone came in late and every one he suspects as already been cased? That's not cool.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

:ninja:
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:55 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Casing Elohcin.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2

Calling dibs on casing Elohcin.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:36 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 1

I voted you because of what I thought was a townslip. Not too sure about that anymore.
by novaselinenever
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:38 am
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 1

Give me the flamethrower. Let me be your hero
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:30 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

Turnip Head wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:29 pm Elo vs Luna feels like town vs town
Nah.
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:29 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:08 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:03 pm Also shout out to everyone calling Elohcin "Eloh" over the years for essentially calling her "Hole" that's pretty top notch comedy.
Why?
I think that I have a post quoting you that might shed some light on the vote.
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:50 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

DH is good
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:44 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:43 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

sprityo wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:16 pm My poor unfortunate soul voted for none other than the Head of Turnips

As an aside for mechanics involving the flamethrower, If there is a tie in the lynch poll i choose one of the people tied

or i just burn whoever i want.


I really need you guys to sell me on some lynches here
How about you sell us on some lynches? If you're intending on using the flamethrower in a democratic way (following the lynch poll), then this game shouldn't be any different of any other game where you would be trying to get the person you believe is bad lynched.
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:40 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

poutanko wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:17 am
speedchuck wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:02 am I agree that killing inactives might be important because if we can't win anonymous elections during the day, we won't even have a 'lynch' to use.
Actually if we publicize our votes and stick together, it's not that different from a normal lynch. :shrug: I'd leave inactives, especially Macdougall, in the clear until tomorrow.

linki: thanks for the clarification
Wilgy guy too, he's yet to make a post.
Novase hasn't posted this DP and Turnip's activity drop compared to D0 Image
I'm here now :grin:
by novaselinenever
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
Replies: 1132
Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 1

Elohcin wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:57 am
Lunalee wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
because he hasn't shown up yet, so why not?
And what if he ia civ? That's a stupid reason to vote him so soon. Give the guy a chance and go after someone you think is bad. Unless you are bad and are just trying to get rid of people you think could be civ. Maybe that's it
It's just a vote though, and the only one on him. Over-reacting much?
by novaselinenever
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:28 pm
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Topic: Outpost 31 {GAME OVER}
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Views: 23013

Re: Outpost 31- DAY 0

I will donate 10 bucks to the Human Fund for every vote I get.

Don't do it for me, do it for the kids.

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