The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:17 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:15 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:38 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:29 pm Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?
Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?
No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.
Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

Espoo was not consensus town read. I felt they were bad and I thought Epi did as well.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:32 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:30 am So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine
I do not know where you got this, bur your vote is in the right place.
I swear that is what someone told me at the end of D1. I’d have to go back and look. Maybe I’m crazy, I dunno. Lots of crazy shit has happened in this game.
from wolf btsc????

Lol, no man. I don’t have any btsc

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:32 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:30 am So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine
I do not know where you got this, bur your vote is in the right place.

I swear that is what someone told me at the end of D1. I’d have to go back and look. Maybe I’m crazy, I dunno. Lots of crazy shit has happened in this game.

So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:17 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:07 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 pm urist is right there
Well he removes Esooa, Urist, and Rej from his final pool of 5 from the wagon of 8.

Because there's not a sentence about Esooa he's scum?
KZA, what's this situation do for reads for you? The message has been talked to death, so tell me what it makes you think about people's involvement. Mine and Chop, or any of the people who have discussed it at length now and drawn conclusions from it.
You could be anything still but I'd lean town based on your part in the whole situation and Chop I think is town for weird reasons

TSP is the other important character here but I have to ISO him

A+ for noticing Tony in this situation. I listed a couple people originally but deleted the names before I posted it because I wanted to see what you would say. Tony was one of them. I look forward to hearing what you see in his ISO.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 pm urist is right there
Well he removes Esooa, Urist, and Rej from his final pool of 5 from the wagon of 8.

Because there's not a sentence about Esooa he's scum?

KZA, what's this situation do for reads for you? The message has been talked to death, so tell me what it makes you think about people's involvement. Mine and Chop, or any of the people who have discussed it at length now and drawn conclusions from it.

I'm not talking about the message or ChopChop anymore it's all out there, and at this point I think there may be people who are using it as a distraction.

I have a paper to write. I'll come back before bed and catch up again and maybe ISO a couple people I'm wondering about. I will have to vote before I go to bed, because I don't know if I will have time to vote tomorrow before the day ends.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:51 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:35 am Yeah Sloon I already looked over that trying to figure out if there was some way a town would know that Esooa might die. I couldn't see one so the omission of Esooa among instructions about what I should say about Bo voters looked bad. But Chop's response doesn't look bad.
Ok she did mention it was about bo voters, guess i missed that.
Glad we had this talk

This makes my post irrelevant. I'm a day late and a dollar short.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:40 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:35 pm for context, the reason i was pressuring chop to summarize his message is because i thought it was suspicious that spacedaisy was able to pick out the fact that esooa was missing from a reads list.
like if i get a list of 24 people, i'm not checking to make sure each and every one of them is there.
if chop had said something like "i said x, y, z, a, b, c were town and d, e, f, g were mafia and h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, q were null" i would be really suspicious of the daisy/chop potential big brain play.
I thought it was at least partially clear from the context of the conversation around the claim that Daisy had received a limited list of players which should have included Esooa but did not. I do not remember specifics, but it seemed like the focus was on the BoKnows wagon.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:16 am Yo, to whoever sent me the message last night, I don't know why I should trust you. See you slipped up and skipped over Esooa in your recap. How did you Esooa was gonna die last night and not be relevant to the conversation? If you were Luke you wouldn't have known. I call bullshit on your message and your attempt to solicit a role claim from me.
she didn't mention anything like that no

I explained slightly more in a subsequent post I think. The reason Esooa being absent stuck out to me was I was trying to figure out how I would pass those thoughts off as my own naturally. So I was reading and re-reading it, and it just hit me that Esooa was not in that list, so I went back to look over the power of the role that was being claimed. Since there was no way Luke would know Esooa was going to die, it seemed like the baddies had forgotten that detail and omitted her from the list of players they wanted me to talk about. It seems to you like I was being paranoid and how would anyone notice, but the answer is you don't on the first reading, but after you are going over it like five or six times and trying to decide how you would do what it asks it dawns on you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:40 pm Oh also. I think Mac and ChopChop could be partners, because Mac would get a kick out of sending a message to SpaceDaisy.

And yes, I am just operating under the assumption that ChopChop is scum rn.

He'd also get a kick out of my response being a big FU. Seriously though, I feel like Mac is weirding me out, has his playstyle changed since I was last playing?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:36 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:34 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:33 pm I'm back here refreshed, and last night I skimmed some of the thread before sleeping, so I am aware of the whole "scum slip" situation with Chop Chop that's simply ridiculous.
why's it ridiculous? tell me more?
Honestly it irked me that people were using buzz words like "Occam's Razor" that he's scum

like wtf

Why is that the most SIMPLEST option to explain his apparent wolfiness or scumminess to people

when he's a new member of the community and not many here know him

Like, why can't he just be a non-optimal villager? Why is that not a suitably simple explanation?

This is my belief too. I agree with your assessment of the conversation around ChopChop. Like as soon as he claimed it I knew I was wrong. Gut punch moment. But Alison's assessment of where we stand isn't wrong. We will probably need to resolve his alignment question.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:18 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling

Can you help us understand what's mind-boggling to you?
sloonei is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
daisy is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
alison is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
chop is still alive.
and so on.

I can't lie, I kind of enjoyed doing the mindboggling thing. I was not prepared for the results of it though, lol.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:01 pm you saying spacedaisy scum chop town

There is a confirmed scum in the thread and you're voting for me. That's another misgiving.

I think I was wrong Marmot, Sloonei is probably town

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:55 pm @Spacedaisy is this your first game in a long time?

Yep

We are only in the first half the day, right?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:54 pm this is insane

What specifically is insane?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:50 pm oof oof oof oof. I forgot. if you put off catching up it becomes harder to catch up

Don’t catch up, just play. It’s much more fun! Lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:19 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:08 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:39 am big brain theory is that chop and daisy are both enclave.
That is a big brain theory. But neither Chop nor Daisy are the kind to come up with a strategy this sneaky, which means there is a mastermind directing this sequence of events from BTSC. Esooa could, I could, neither of us are Enclave. Mac could be the mastermind, but it doesn't suit his style to go full Light Yagami in scum chat and afk in the thread.

Who do you think is the mastermind if this is true? I lean towards it not being true and Daisy just being town. The mix of paranoia and emotion in her post was struck very precisely, and it is not easy to fake.
I don't believe it's true.

but i could see lc pulling something like that. maayyyyybe epi or dom. it's got a very old school syndicate feel.

but i'm not seriously entertaining the theory.
if it's got an old school syndicate feel that I'd also have to include daisy's name on the list. let's not assume she's not a capable schemer.
Aw shucks

Here I was a bit disappointed that the new people don’t have the frame of reference to think I’m sneaky.

Regardless of that, you are speculating about who is bad based upon a bunch of things needing to be true.

ChopChop must be Enclave
I must also be Enclave
Someone else is a mastermind Enclave.

It’s silly because the premise falls apart with the fact that I am not Enclave.

Also I don’t trust you anymore.
... daisy i was not actually entertaining these thoughts. I made that very clear from the beginning. I was just playing along with a thought exercise.

Fair enough, but I don’t trust you because I read your ISO before I went to bed last night. I have concerns about you.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 am People saying ima PL, hurts my feelings.

What does PL mean?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:41 am ngl i'm slowly buying into the theory that chopchop and spacedaisy are both wolves

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:16 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:05 am Nanook stop randing mafia
do u have any thoughts on dom
Im probs one of the few ppl in this game with meta on Dom so its important to note my opinion.

I dunno.

I think Dom is town fwiw.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:36 am Who kills Esooa is the other question to have in mind
That's a fairly long list. She was widely town-read, I think.

I wasn’t caught up but I didn’t trust Esooa at all, but I have no idea what others thought of her.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:22 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:10 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:07 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:43 am Is it realistic to think that the Enclave member holding that role would actually forget to include the name of their nightkill victim?

If this team is functioning like a normal team should, that message would have been peer reviewed in the team chat before it got sent out. Somebody should have noticed that Esooa's name was missing.
As a wise man once said: Mafia ChopChop doesn't run it by BTSC.
Night actions are usually highly coordinated tho
What are the chances that the other Enclave members said something like "Chop, send a message to Daisy or something and try to fish for a claim", and they don't review the exact wording?
that would depend on the teammates. I'm too much of a control freak to let a message like that go out without checking it myself. But not everyone would be so neurotic about it.

I feel like you would also be in that camp, along with spf. Ordinarily I'd say Epi, but I feel like he's taking it easy in this game regardless of alignment, so I don't know if he'd doublecheck his student's teammate's work for obvious errors right now. Something tells me nanook would be on alert.
Mac would be crafty enough to come up with the plan, but based on his thread presence he might not be tuned in enough to check the message before sending it out. I feel similar about LC and Marmot.

I don't know enough about the scum games of everyone else to say how they'd handle having that role in the hands of a teammate.

It also depends on the person sending the message. I’m very careful sending that kind of shit, it makes me nervous, so I would have shared it with my team if it were me, and I would’ve waited until they all told me it looked good.

I don’t know what Chop would do though.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:19 am The thing about the "why does Chop do this if he is scum" arguments is this. What if he *is* town? He's never getting NKed. We can't have him around at FX. He has to be resolved by force because this is too huge to ignore. And if Occam's Razor holds true and he is scum, we get a headstart on analyzing all his spew. Just kill the scumslipped slot and move from there rather than mindgaming yourself into a bad exe.

This is the only good argument I’ve heard for voting Choo.

I like Alison for town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:13 am It’s so bizarre though because he clearly planned to claim today or at least something like that

I think Chop intended to play it more subtle. I think their goal was to give me a secretive claim. After I sent my post I saw a post from Chop that echoed things said in the message. Whether or not that makes him more or less likely to be bad I don’t know. But the way it happened reads civ to me, not bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:08 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:39 am big brain theory is that chop and daisy are both enclave.
That is a big brain theory. But neither Chop nor Daisy are the kind to come up with a strategy this sneaky, which means there is a mastermind directing this sequence of events from BTSC. Esooa could, I could, neither of us are Enclave. Mac could be the mastermind, but it doesn't suit his style to go full Light Yagami in scum chat and afk in the thread.

Who do you think is the mastermind if this is true? I lean towards it not being true and Daisy just being town. The mix of paranoia and emotion in her post was struck very precisely, and it is not easy to fake.
I don't believe it's true.

but i could see lc pulling something like that. maayyyyybe epi or dom. it's got a very old school syndicate feel.

but i'm not seriously entertaining the theory.
if it's got an old school syndicate feel that I'd also have to include daisy's name on the list. let's not assume she's not a capable schemer.

Aw shucks

Here I was a bit disappointed that the new people don’t have the frame of reference to think I’m sneaky.

Regardless of that, you are speculating about who is bad based upon a bunch of things needing to be true.

ChopChop must be Enclave
I must also be Enclave
Someone else is a mastermind Enclave.

It’s silly because the premise falls apart with the fact that I am not Enclave.

Also I don’t trust you anymore.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:10 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:07 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:43 am Is it realistic to think that the Enclave member holding that role would actually forget to include the name of their nightkill victim?

If this team is functioning like a normal team should, that message would have been peer reviewed in the team chat before it got sent out. Somebody should have noticed that Esooa's name was missing.
As a wise man once said: Mafia ChopChop doesn't run it by BTSC.
Night actions are usually highly coordinated tho
What are the chances that the other Enclave members said something like "Chop, send a message to Daisy or something and try to fish for a claim", and they don't review the exact wording?

Look it was a pretty wordy thing and it seemed really specific about what was being asked of me. If it was a mafia maneuver there is no way they wouldn’t have reviewed that thing.

It just seems more likely to me that ChopChop doesn’t have a team which points to town.

I’ve got to finish a futurama episode and get some sleep. I’m playing the, “I’m not even going to pretend to catch up” game and play from where I am whenever I come in. I’ll probably be busy tomorrow night (writing a paper due Friday) but I’ll try to come in again at some point tomorrow.

I feel like I came in and blew up the thread. Guess I’ve done enough damage for one night

I disagree

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:46 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:37 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:33 am I can't see a strong mafia reason to immediately understand what I'm saying with partial info that I gave, and to out themself as the sender when I said I believed they were bad.

Chop is town I think.
On the other hand: Esooa was (I believe) almost certainly killed by the Enclave. If your initial theory is true, the sender of the message omitted Esooa by mistake because they knew she was going to end up dead.

The Enclave has access to one of three potential roles in the game capable of sending an anonymous private message to a player.

This would be a convoluted and unfortunate coincidence if Chop is one of the two potential town roles with that ability.
Yes, the omission is what made me believe it was someone posing as Luke, they specifically mentioned the Brotherhood, so that was why I said I don’t believe they are Luke.

There was no good reason for Chop to claim that. Not for town or mafia. The difference is, town are more likely to throw in the towel in a moment of frustration or upset (like the realization their carefully crafted message had blown up in their face because they accidentally overlooked someone). Mafia are more likely to try and find a way to cover. In this case, all Chop had to do was not own up to sending it. No one but Jay and Chop would know.

So Sloonei, which do you think this was?
i still don't understand why chop is town from this.

I need a break. will be back later.

If you fucked up like that as mafia, Would your first instinct be to claim it in the thread instantly? Or would it be to go into your wolf chat and freak out to your teammates? At what point would it make sense for a wolf chop to claim that? It doesn’t. It doesn’t make sense for a town chop to do it either, but town tend to act more out of frustration when things go down hill because they don’t have a team to talk to and figure out what to do.

This turned out to be a swiftj kick in the teeth, I thought I was so smart for catchibg that.

@ChopChop

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:42 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:39 am big brain theory is that chop and daisy are both enclave.
:v i just noted down something I would do in future games, if I was a scum who could send msgs to others. if daisy is an enclave here then I'm gonna follow her lead and apply it in future.

I wish this were true. It’s been a long time since I played an epic gambit.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:37 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:33 am I can't see a strong mafia reason to immediately understand what I'm saying with partial info that I gave, and to out themself as the sender when I said I believed they were bad.

Chop is town I think.
On the other hand: Esooa was (I believe) almost certainly killed by the Enclave. If your initial theory is true, the sender of the message omitted Esooa by mistake because they knew she was going to end up dead.

The Enclave has access to one of three potential roles in the game capable of sending an anonymous private message to a player.

This would be a convoluted and unfortunate coincidence if Chop is one of the two potential town roles with that ability.

Yes, the omission is what made me believe it was someone posing as Luke, they specifically mentioned the Brotherhood, so that was why I said I don’t believe they are Luke.

There was no good reason for Chop to claim that. Not for town or mafia. The difference is, town are more likely to throw in the towel in a moment of frustration or upset (like the realization their carefully crafted message had blown up in their face because they accidentally overlooked someone). Mafia are more likely to try and find a way to cover. In this case, all Chop had to do was not own up to sending it. No one but Jay and Chop would know.

So Sloonei, which do you think this was?

Yeah Sloon I already looked over that trying to figure out if there was some way a town would know that Esooa might die. I couldn't see one so the omission of Esooa among instructions about what I should say about Bo voters looked bad. But Chop's response doesn't look bad.

I can't see a strong mafia reason to immediately understand what I'm saying with partial info that I gave, and to out themself as the sender when I said I believed they were bad.

Chop is town I think.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:28 am Chop essentially claimed the letter that SD got. SD said that she thought her letter was sent by a wolf. I have no idea if any of this is plausible yet but by this point
Mhm.
Which is false thus why I claimed now so people don’t jump the gun later.

Anyway, GN.

Why would CHop make the claim immediately? If they were wolf it would be wiser to stay hidden, because overlooking Esooa in the message seemed like a sure sign to me this was someone who knew Esooa wouldn't be around today. But if that were the case Chop wouldn't need to claim any of it.

I'm not sure what to do with this. I didn't expect someone to claim they sent the message... I expected to drop this into the thread and see how people reacted. Outing themself was not what I imagined would happen though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:24 am @Spacedaisy am I reading all this right

I'm not you so I can't say how you're reading it.

oh, townread?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:21 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:16 am Yo, to whoever sent me the message last night, I don't know why I should trust you. See you slipped up and skipped over Esooa in your recap. How did you Esooa was gonna die last night and not be relevant to the conversation? If you were Luke you wouldn't have known. I call bullshit on your message and your attempt to solicit a role claim from me.
Maybe ugh, they accidentally forgot their name.
Maybe ugh, TR.

What does this mean?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:19 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:16 am Yo, to whoever sent me the message last night, I don't know why I should trust you. See you slipped up and skipped over Esooa in your recap. How did you Esooa was gonna die last night and not be relevant to the conversation? If you were Luke you wouldn't have known. I call bullshit on your message and your attempt to solicit a role claim from me.
can you tell us more about this?

I want to confirm with our splendiferous host to be sure I'm not illegally sharing info before I say more. Once I can then yes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:18 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:16 am Yo, to whoever sent me the message last night, I don't know why I should trust you. See you slipped up and skipped over Esooa in your recap. How did you Esooa was gonna die last night and not be relevant to the conversation? If you were Luke you wouldn't have known. I call bullshit on your message and your attempt to solicit a role claim from me.

Yo, to whoever sent me the message last night, I don't know why I should trust you. See you slipped up and skipped over Esooa in your recap. How did you Esooa was gonna die last night and not be relevant to the conversation? If you were Luke you wouldn't have known. I call bullshit on your message and your attempt to solicit a role claim from me.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:53 pm If rej is mafia spacedaisy is >rand mafia as well

Um what?

I have no clue what is happening in here. I had to spend all last night doing homework. And I will have to tonight as well. Also I’m at work until the time the day ends. Can anyone catch me up on the story with the current wagons?

I hate seeing my typos. I'm sorry guys, I have thyroid issues that have affected my mental focus, so little things like that slip by me. I miss words in sentences or spell them incorrectly. Don't hate me Epi, I already hate myself for it.

Anyway, if anything I say is unclear just let me know.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?
His reads look natural, and he looks like he's actually trying despite using a gimmick. One which I am totally enjoying ftr.
Do you understand this business about KZA then?

I mean I understand what he's saying, but I think it's misplaced. I can at once say, "I think everything you just said is crap, but I would at least like to see how the other person respond to it" There is nothing suspicious in that to me. the more people talk to easier it is to get reads on them. I don't think it was a case worth following. Even if I think it originated with a civ.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

His reads look natural, and he looks like he's actually trying despite using a gimmick. One which I am totally enjoying ftr.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am I take it linki has been disabled. Well this should be fun.
The people have spoken, and linki is basically a thing of the past now.

I am a person and I am very sad about this, it's hard to know where I fucking left off.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

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