The Syndicate

LOL, I like that way.

Wifey, you played an excellent game. I got lost in the weeds in the middle of the game.

Just a reminder Better Off Ted is in sign ups.

I don't think so. I don't know what exactly people like Elo and Llama mean when they talk about it. But Mata is coming from like a skipped generation back lol, so that is what she is talking about I think.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:54 pm Indeed, in a game with legal claims -- just say "I watched dunya targeting nova". No need to conceal the juicy bits in a setup like this.

This is where the play difference comes in. That was considered unfair play in the tradition mata is coming from to straight forward say, I am this role and I know this information.

I suggested role claiming in my first game to Long Con in a civ BTSC and I will never forget him telling me that was poor form. I felt very silly. And I soon learned to play in that tradition of mafia and enjoy it. Then I had to unlearn it when we started mingling with the larger mafia community, lol.

How... how HOW did you guys end up lynching LONGCON?

Now I know why I was lynched, that shit would not have flown with me at all. LC was clearly town. And I didn't even read endgame, I saw the poll and knew immediately dunya was bad because civ dunya would never have voted for LC in that situation.

Also I wished I was still alive so I could tell you I had been blocked. But I hadn't been sure until the night I died.

Good luck civs, find those baddies and keep my winning streak for 2019 going!

I do not envy Luna picking who to LD here.

In fairness to kites, yesterday was moving fast and he may have just missed my statement inthe chaos. I was pretty all over the place so I can see why that might not stick with you.

He switched to Speedchuck at the last second, which is why Speed got lynched. And to me it looks shady because speeds EOD actions looked so clearly civ that I followed his vote.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:56 pm All that said, I don’t trus tkites anymore than he claims to trust me.
Daisy what are you seeing in him that tells you he's bad? I need to to another re-read from the perspective of him being bad.

I didn’t like his vote switch. And he is blaming it on dunya. Also the fact he said I didn’t claim something that could be LDed, when I did. I think he is hoping a lynch of me dunya or Elo will gain traction today.

All that said, I don’t trus tkites anymore than he claims to trust me.

By that I mean be free to make choices.

It’s a really bad idea as a civ to have one of your fellow civs locked into a vote. You just gotta hope and pray that locked vote is a baddie. Or be certain I am, which I’m not. Inthis stage the best case scenario is for the civs to make choices.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:48 pm Maybe it means "bad idea".

Correct

Kites wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 12:19 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:14 am
Kites wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:30 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:06 am I participated yesterday and got pounded unfairly. I likely won't make that mistake again today unless there are several people involved in a discussion. I hope someone will step up and keep the conversation going. @Kites I have defended you twice now, I would appreciate hearing some of your thoughts about where we are.
I wish I had stuck with Eloh now. dunya kind of convinced me + speed doing the last minute reads based on roles (which seemed fake cos it’s been proven roles aren’t alignment indicative and lynching someone for not claiming is a weak reason) made me switch

I hope luna can reveal something good the next day, provided she doesn’t get killed, or that she isn’t bad

Whatever luna says we can’t blindly follow, we must lynch a baddie or we are done
Who do you think is bad right now?
I don’t trust Spacedaisy really at all. Unsure about Luna, the role doesn’t confirm her alignment so we can’t blindly trust the result she gives
Eloh, well, not sure if I’m just stubborn about reading her bad

I feel sort of good about juliets, but it might be because she’s been going easy on me, like she said she’s defended me a few times. Makes me I think I could be in her pocket

People who didn’t do the ”I am a civilian” post for Luna to check are spacedaisy and speedchuck (R.I.P.), and luna herself of course, worth noting maybe

and about you dunya, I feel unsure now too, after steering the lynch toward speed. Yeah I followed you but still. I was thinking maybe you bought your team mate another day to live but idk if I really believe in that need to see what luna tells us first

these are just thoughts off the top of my head, gotta look dig deeper tomorrow

False

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm I won't be voting in the hopes of keeping 7 votes on the poll, but do know that I would prefer a spacedaisy vote today.
This would be a waste. But I wouldn’t be a big loss either. Nothing I do can be helpful in any kind of certain way. I will flip civ. Go on and LD that tonight if you are able.

I was the first person to give an LD statement I believe. And I will do it again. I am a civilian, my role reveals the roles int he OP.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 12:07 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:38 am I am Do it Again. I haven't targeted anyone from Nights 1-6. I am a civilian.

I can target daisy to vote kits again and retarget the same person. I cannot do do chuck (as he is gone). I cannot choose dunya or kits (again, as chuck is gone). And I refuse to choose someone to vot me again . We could have a thread vote to see if people think I should target daisy tonight if y'all think that is best.
I personally don't doubt your role so I wouldn't force Daisy to vote again in the same place if she does not want to, or force her to use her power over again on the same result. Others may disagree and if Daisy disagrees and is willing to have her vote and target forced then I guess it wouldn't hurt. I guess what I'm saying is either way is fine with me as long as it's fine with Daisy.

I think think forcing my vote in at this point is a. Ad idea, I would assume we are at MYLO or LYLO but I don’t know the numbers.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 am @Spacedaisy can you explain why you decided to move off speed?

His EoD behavior looked civ to me.

Meeeehhhhh. I don’t like kites switch. That looked bad

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites

Don’t do it!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:57 pm Eloh hasn't used her role.

She hasn't.

It might have been useful and she would have guidance with scum partners. I've TRIED not using a role as scum before, my teammates took over and used it for me.

This is why I didn’t go back to voting her just now and instead followed you to kites. If it’s not dunya bad not elo then it has to be kites imo.

Dunya, I don’t think Speed looks bad. Any chance you think kites could be?

Juliets, you’re the only thing I feel confident in lol. If you are bad you deserve the win.

And kites switched to Speedchuck?

This game is insane.

I’m all over the place

I’m going to vote kites

Your role is more useful than hers. If hers is even civ. It seems more baddie useful to me.

Speed, eleven minutes left, who should I vote for if not you?

What good is it to us that Luna lie detect the same person two nights in a row?

Her role forces you to
Use it on the same person two nights in arow

Wait no

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:44 pm wait, @Elohcin would your role allow me to get a second lie detect?

See this is a good idea!

I have no reason to trust kites currently

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:37 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:30 pm Apparently some words are 'too common' to search for. Horsecrap.

I recall Dunya saying she knew what happened night 2. Why there was no kill.
She said she knew Nova must have jailkept her, so she assumed she had been targeted. She explained that she knew her role failed, so it couldn’t have been her action.
Was that Night 2?

I think so? I’m not sure, details are running together.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:30 pm Apparently some words are 'too common' to search for. Horsecrap.

I recall Dunya saying she knew what happened night 2. Why there was no kill.

She said she knew Nova must have jailkept her, so she assumed she had been targeted. She explained that she knew her role failed, so it couldn’t have been her action.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:26 pm Didn't we have another doc in the game? reywas' role? Though it was limited, he had to put his life up for a protection.
We also had Jack

lol

Her role explains why she so vehemently opposed his claim.

It wasn’t intended as a threat, but I can see why it would seem as such. My apologies.

Poll runs another hour, we have time yet.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]Move your vote or I will be certain this is the right lynch.

[mention]Elohcin[/mention] your vote can save you, please move it.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:36 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:34 pm If it's not Elo and not dunya. Then it leaves kites and someone else or two mafia in deep which leaves me only with the idea that I'm wrong about speedchuck and luna... or juliets and speedchuck, but I just can't wrap my mind around the ideaa of juliets being bad with everything that occurred around her role.

dunya, protect yourself.
Yeah I'm not bad daisy. What makes you think it's not Elo? Something about the role she claimed? I just need to understand a little better.

I don't know that it's not Elo.

I think if there was a role that could look civ but be bad, it's Speed's.

Alright, I'll move to speed with you.

If it's not Elo and not dunya. Then it leaves kites and someone else or two mafia in deep which leaves me only with the idea that I'm wrong about speedchuck and luna... or juliets and speedchuck, but I just can't wrap my mind around the ideaa of juliets being bad with everything that occurred around her role.

dunya, protect yourself.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:26 pm If we move our votes will it help, like if there are no votes on you at poll close?

[mention]dunya[/mention]

Let's say Elo's role is real. can someone tell me why this would be a civ role?

Is it possible it's role cover?

Alright, I'm at a total loss here.

If we move our votes will it help, like if there are no votes on you at poll close?

well shit.

I mean, you guys are both voting for Juliets?

How you are behaving right now.

This is baddie lolcatting. Did I say that right?

Lynch dunya.

She is trying to point everywhere but Elo, that’s her teammate.

I really do think Elo and dunya could be teammates.

Look at their votes right now.

Luna, tell me why you don’t think they could be teammates?

I’ve played games for my husband in the past. I would have felt shit if I decided he had crafted a shit role and didn’t use it. I would have found a way to use the thing. And I usually try to find other people’s input if I can do so without being obvious. I revealed that role and tried to generate discussion on if we thought it might be civ or bad aligned. No one would. It would have been the perfect time to try and generate some strategy for how she could use it, but she didn’t. I’m not convinced that role is civ or that she really was choosing not to use it.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.
Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?
You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.

Lmao, how is that pro-mafia? They know all their roles. We know nothing. They are the ones who have something to hide.

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