The Syndicate

Oooooo nice!

Would you like me to create banners?

I am glad no one thought of it. I did but I wasn't bringing it up.

indiglo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:24 pm Nice! I had a feeling about Daisy. Our N1 kill was down to between juliets and Daisy. I'm so glad we didn't go with Daisy. I just felt like you were communicating to me in the thread that we were on the same side. Maybe I read too much into your posts, but either way it worked.


I knew that killing 3J and allowing myself to be lynched was a risk, but I thought there was a good chance it would be worth it in the end.


That was a fun reintroduction to mafia. Sorry to juliets for putting you out of the game, and for the Mongoose mislynch day 1.


Got some crazy good gut readers out there, but if I play again (if I can find the time) I will take the lessons learned here with me, that's for sure!


Linki~

You definitely read too much into my posts. I just didn't think you were bad. I didn't consider myself mafia, I was Indy. So I was just scum hunting like a civ and trying to survive, hoping you guys wouldn't kill me.

I almost never win as Indy roles, so frankly I'm pretty stoked by that.

I think it's funny everything that you all took as so suspicious. I just legitimately had no idea who anyone was and my reads were 100% just my reads, my votes weren't aiming for a civ I just had shitty reads. I wasn't trying to protect anyone or anything since I knew who no one was. Except I did find out nutella was the role cop after I controlled her. So I knew I had to kill her the next night or she would've checked me. I didn't know that I would inherit the kill after the mafia were eliminated until I was given it.

I wasn't faking or trying to hide behind being busy either, I just was.

Linki: I wasn't mafia Juliets. I think they just won because the civs died, don't need to be alive to win I guess.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:57 pm Methinks that kill will backfire.

I’m a little worried about that too. I was surprised that the game didn’t officially end after the votes were in.

Games don't usually end immediately unless the host is using hammer voting. Besides, I'm fairly sire dunya is in bed by now.

D'oh!

Elo, the cop just said that it was either you or me and I know it's not me. I feel pretty comfortable with this vote.

Well...

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:13 am Is that funny because you're bad?

Lol no it’s funny because it was a derp moment. If I were bad and thought that I would have killed you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:58 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:19 am I'm not sure I understand what you mean Mac. Aren't you a jailkeeper? Doesn't it benefit us for you to be using that at this stage of the game?

I am a bodyguard. If I am accurate we lose a civilian anyway. I'd rather stay in the game than die at this point. I don't feel like there is anyone more cleared than me anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if I get offed though.

For some reason I’ve had it in my head you’re a jailkeeper.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean Mac. Aren't you a jailkeeper? Doesn't it benefit us for you to be using that at this stage of the game?

lol [mention]Matahari[/mention] ok Wifey, you do what you gotta.

I'm putting my vote on [VOTE: Reywas] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:29 am Mac has been pretty much out of my poe for a while, but I could reconsider him. Would be pretty bold of him to claim bodyguard as early as he did if he's bad.

I don't suspect Mac either particularly but I'm curious to know why you've cleared him.

it's cool.

interest = entrance

DST has killed my brain, sorry.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:29 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:17 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:58 pm This makes no sense. The vote was tied 2-2-2 with me on rey and Owner on me. Why wouldn’t one of us move our vote if we were on a team together? This is why Jay freaking town cleared me, Owner was out for my blood and she could have moved her vote, or I could have moved mine. I don’t get me being the top of anyone’s list.

Come on folks

If you had moved your vote, would you have voted Owner? And what was your reasoning for voting Rey?

No, I was really convinced that Rey was the best vote, I wasn’t going to move even if it meant risking myself in a three way tie.

And I missed the vote but I don’t think I would have voted Indi either. I didn’t think she was bad.

Can you say why you think Rey is bad? If you have made a post about him, I missed it. But if you already have, let me know that and I’ll go find it.

At first i felt like he had just disappeared after making an interest at the get go. Then Jay followed it up with an explanation of why his vote on Jay looked so bad. He had said he suspected me the day before but then when he could have voted me and sealed my lynch, instead he voted Jay. No explanation, just called it a drive by. If it was jut a meaningless vote and he already suspected me, why didn't he vote for me? Unless he knew I wasn't on the mafia team and he wanted to keep his hands clean.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:58 pm This makes no sense. The vote was tied 2-2-2 with me on rey and Owner on me. Why wouldn’t one of us move our vote if we were on a team together? This is why Jay freaking town cleared me, Owner was out for my blood and she could have moved her vote, or I could have moved mine. I don’t get me being the top of anyone’s list.

Come on folks

If you had moved your vote, would you have voted Owner? And what was your reasoning for voting Rey?

No, I was really convinced that Rey was the best vote, I wasn’t going to move even if it meant risking myself in a three way tie.

And I missed the vote but I don’t think I would have voted Indi either. I didn’t think she was bad.

This makes no sense. The vote was tied 2-2-2 with me on rey and Owner on me. Why wouldn’t one of us move our vote if we were on a team together? This is why Jay freaking town cleared me, Owner was out for my blood and she could have moved her vote, or I could have moved mine. I don’t get me being the top of anyone’s list.

Come on folks

Why am I at the top of your list?

I am so sorry guys! It's been a weird day for me. I totally forgot the lynch deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:03 pm Why do I even try?

Jay, just remember your supporters are just quieter than your haters. I’ve thought you were town since you started posting and I’ve been listening to your arguments and considering them as I play.

Holy shit! I did not expect that!

Oh man...

My point is, when I’m bad. I’m only thinking, what would I do if I were civ?

If I had found someone off wagon suspect, I would have voted for them. Whether I was good or bad.

Swearing doesn’t mean I’m furious. I swear a lot.

Was I blow up and get super mad? I didn’t feel that mad...

I just felt annoyed when I did what people asked and instead other people just went oh you doing that looks bad. I hate that. I also hate discussions of WIFOM. Because any defense you give someone can say, that’s WIFOM, you bad. I have never in my life places a vote thinking, if I place this vote, I can make this argument. When I’m bad I vote for the person I believe would look most suspicious to me if I was good. I’m not setting up some argument down the road.

I liked it, it’s why I am comfortable with my vote staying. It’s why I’d like to see him lynched instead of Owner

Typooooos

I wasn’t giving up, im just too busy to goth to spend a lot of time on the he game and I accepted that no matter what I said everyone fit it into their narrative the way they wanted.

I’m happy with my vote where it is. I don’t understand why people Think owner is bad. I recommend moving to Rey

nutella, I could stand on my head and spit quarters and you'd come up with a way that it means I'm mafia. You're so deep in confirmation bias and it's super annoying.

Mata, I haven't been committed. Because I'm not committed. It doesn't mean I'm bad.

Look, I'm an easy vote here and it'll be a mistake because you 100% will not get the result you expect or want. But I'm also pretty busy. Just finished running my first session of an RPG, and I've got school work to do tonight too. So I am not going to spend my time arguing.

Once I'm dead, look at the people who were latching onto me. I was the easy target. Jay I'm pretty sure is civ and I think Indi is as well. Possibly Mac. Good luck. I'm off to take a shower and prepare for guests who are coming over tonight.

Oh, I have to vote someone too... I'm going to put my vote on reywas because I forgot he was playing for a minute.

I always try to put my vote where it matters if I don’t feel like I have a strong suspicion somewhere else.

Because if I was bad, why the fuck would I need to seal a lunch on Mongoose? She was already getting lynched. Why wouldn’t I just vote for someone else, anyone else? I could have tossed my vote anywhere and not gotten my hands dirty if I knew she was civ before I voted for her. The only reason I might really want to deal a lynch on Mongoose if Iwasbad is if I was protecting someone else. The only two people that might be Jay are you and Mac. Do you think Mac is bad? Are you bad? Even thenif one of you was bad and not the other, I could’ve voted to tie up the civ with Mongoose, assuming I am on the mafia team (which I’m not). A vote for Mongoose makes literally zero sense if I knew her alignment ahead of the lynch unless you believe I was protecting someone else. It only makes sense if you consider that I didn’t know what she would flip.

I believed you are good based on your behavior. You look like you are genuinely trying to figure things out. But it concerns me now that I’m wrong if you can’t see why that vote indicating I’m bad would have to mean that you and/or Mac were bad as well.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:20 pm hmmm I'm not satisfied with daisy's last post. her logic for why a baddie wouldn't vote as she did seems a little too thought through, if she was just a clueless townie throwing a vote somewhere she could just say that she was a clueless townie throwing a vote somewhere and not have this elaborate rationale cooked up.

[VOTE: daisy] aubergine

This is fucking ridiculous.

I get votes because everyone says I’m not explaining my vote.

I lay out exactly why I voted the way I did (which I thought I had already explained), and I get votes for having an elaborate rationale. My entire “rationale” was I don’t know what is happening so I’m picking the one I think is most suspicious here. Woo, that’s elaborate indeed.

Fuck this, you’ve just decided to vote me no matter what so let’s just dispense with the charade. It literally makes no sense that I’m bad based on that vote, but whatever. Don’t let that inconvenience your lynch train.

You won’t get the result you’re looking for, but it’s cool. I don’t mind watching you guys mislynch me.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:00 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:27 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:17 amWith the Mongoose vote, I'm generally more suspicious of the later votes. Unless the earlier voters are strong players, who tend to push people a lot as scum, but with this crowd, I'm flying without meta.

Also, are the votes actually in order has this site's polling mixed it up?

I have the votes at Mac then Jay then indigo then daisy was that the correct order or did it get mixed up?

The poll order isn't the same as the chronological order. I believe the Mongoose votes went in this order: indiglo ==> Mac ==> JJJ ==> Spacedaisy

What does this mean to you?

My vote still stays on Spacedaisy. You have owned up to your vote being less informed; I think I might want to sit on that thought for awhile. Or maybe I should take a look back at it and see if it was more of an opportune moment or what not.

At one point, I thought you were voting for me, but then the next moment it looked like your vote was on Mongoose, so count me confused.

Depending on how early indigo and Mac placed their votes on Mongoose, we can maybe read into that as actual suspicion of Mongoose's behavior rather than an opportunistic push, but there was also talk about wagons being townie ones, so there are also opportunities for scum to off vote, which would potentially support my suspicion on Matahari. But it's also getting late...as in if I stay up I won't be getting 7 hours of sleeps.

Wait, explain to me why Jay gets a pass for being uninformed when I said in my post I was busy all day and not caught all the way up.

I think there were like 3 pages I hadn’t read when I posted that. Literally cooking dinner and went to vote with like six minutes to go or something.

Here was my thinking, I can cast a vote off that has no meaning or I can cast a vote where it can count. Mongoose was already winning the lynch y’all. I didn’t want to tie it up because I didn’t feel like Jay was bad. When considering either Mac or Mongoose. I had felt like I thought Mac seemed loosey goosey and like normal Mac, but I wouldn’t say I feel confident ilenogh to discount him. Whereas there was conversation already about Mongoose and I thought she seemed stiffer than Mac did. Less natural.

This my vote for Mongoose, who was already about to get lynched. Why would I do this if I was bad? The only reason would be if both Mac and Jay were bad. They both had one less vote than Mongoose, iirc. So please consider this logical, unless you suspect I am on a team with Mac and Jay, this move would not make sense as a baddie.

Because I am not mafia y’all. I’m just a dumbass who didn’t manage my time better.

I am not sure I see the big deal about Indi. I feel like what I've seen from her is consistent to the way we all used to play at TP. I will do a read through later tonight and try to see if I can get some better reads on everyone.

Matahari wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:53 pm I’m not sure I get all the vouching going on in the game. Openly pleading for teammates used to be considered as targeting. Is this the new normal in mafia, or a bold fake out?
I also wonder why Indiglo didn’t change her vote, or at least unvote Mongoose.
I wonder why my wifey, Ms Daisy, is so quiet?

Also WIFEY! <3

Matahari wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:53 pm I’m not sure I get all the vouching going on in the game. Openly pleading for teammates used to be considered as targeting. Is this the new normal in mafia, or a bold fake out?
I also wonder why Indiglo didn’t change her vote, or at least unvote Mongoose.
I wonder why my wifey, Ms Daisy, is so quiet?

I'm still trying to get back into the swing of mafia again after a lengthy absence. Also I am taking college courses again and I spend a great deal of time writing. So... not intentional I just suck in general at mafia-ing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:35 pm I have a gap in my intuition where Spacedaisy is which makes me suspicious.

What do you mean? Like you don't have a feeling on me this game, or in general you don't have intuition about me?

I spent all afternoon writing. So... I could vote for Jay or Mac and tie it up with Mongoose or I can seal it on Mongoose. I don’t think Jay is bad, I’m not decided yet on Mac. I think I’ll toss. Y vote on Mongoose, I feel like she is more likely bad than the other two options close to her.

Mongoose wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:03 pm For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.

Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.

The problem with this is that baddies can get frustrated just as easily as civs. In Ancient Greece I think, Dunya came in super aggravated with how MP was behaving towards other players and it read so frustrated and sincere to me that I was convinced that she was civ. She wasn’t civ.

Gr...

:Daisy:

Guy = gut

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:43 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:39 pm I can't Jay. I'm always wrong about Nutella. Always. I've given up on ever reading her.

Can you explain what Jay does that you can't do?

Also, self-fulfilling prophecy, if you don't try, how will you get better?

I'm reading between the lines here. I think you're saying that what Jay does is a good thing.

It should have had a comma. I was responding to Jay. Thus I was saying: “I can’t, Jay.”

But when I think about it, I can’t Jay either. He is soooo analytical and I’m a guy player. He jumps right in and I rarely form strong opinions quickly. I become more engaged as the game goes on. He is meticulous and I make mistakes and misinterpretations all the time. But honestly, I wouldn’t want to Jay. I’d rather Daisy. Because I like me. I’m pretty ok.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:46 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:05 pm I just checked and it does.

Rey, that’s a quick vote...

It works in ctrl-f but not the forum search function, unless something has changed very recently

It worked for me in the forum search... maybe because I did it on mobile.

I just checked and it does.

Rey, that’s a quick vote...

I can't Jay. I'm always wrong about Nutella. Always. I've given up on ever reading her.

She could have been referring to how he came to feel she was good though. He did jump in with a snap decisions regarding her alignment being good. A baddie can do this as well. I don't think Jay's bad though. I liked his response as well, I also like how he's trying to instigate conversation with his insta-reads.

LOL, I totally quoted the wrong post from Indi, I meant to second her correction because Indi is definitely a badass. But I'm amused that I instead quoted this one.

indiglo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:49 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:47 pm Also you're a man so we'll probably lynch you anyway.

I was thinking the same thing. We did want this to be an all ladies mafia game from the get go.

Truth