The Syndicate

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:22 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:35 pm oh dang. tim could have won if we let him kill 1 more time.

@Timsup2nothin ♡♡♡

I'm sorry I voted to lynch u.

I would have let u kill me tonight. u should have said.

it was fun playing with u. it seemed like you chose to help town. thanks for choosing town.
This was sweet, but I would have had to recharge my mace.

I like to think we would have given you the night but idk I might have advocated blasting you right there. Note in my initial plan I intended to charge you up

I think town not noticing that Scotty had made the N1 and N4 kills was a huge town failure there tbh

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:51 pm I dodged Kyles attack though

No you didn’t

FTR we never would have chopped kyle

WABBAJACK

Just end it

Daisy check Vul
Gav track Vul
Vul go to action replacement shrine
TSP watch Namira
LC go to Namira

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:02 pm sorry, this been a crazy busy day. been packing for a move.

how come tim doesn't talk to me no more?

probably cause he's 3p or alternatively because his internet is out

night actions:

Daisy check Vul
Gav track Vul
Vul go to action replacement shrine
TSP watch the shrine where Daisy checks Vul
LC go to the shrine where Daisy checks Vul

ok just to spite gav vote sleep

alternatively we just chop Tim now and win cause I’m like 95 percent sure it’s Tim

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:23 am If we sleep here:

Daisy cop Tim
LC get Daisy’s result
Vul go to power restore shrine
Gav track Vul
Tim go to the power restore shrine
TSP watch power restore shrine (double backup)

Two checks, both checks have verification

I think we go with this but
@Gavial can you remind me of your powers again

Daisy cop Vul
LC get Daisy’s result
Gav track Daisy
TSP watch the checky check shrine
Vul ... eh. Doesn’t work

If we sleep here:

Daisy cop Tim
LC get Daisy’s result
Vul go to power restore shrine
Gav track Vul
Tim go to the power restore shrine
TSP watch power restore shrine (double backup)

Two checks, both checks have verification

Vul go to the power restoration shrine, IDC what power you choose it won’t come into play

Wait would the commute shrine get around a watch

And I don’t know how to balance these probabilities

Uh yeah sleep is optimal but there’s a chance? The SK can get two kills somehow and in that case sleep is not optimal

Vul do the commute. I have a watch, I’ll watch the shrine you go to. Gav can track Daisy, Daisy cops LC, LC gets Gav’s result.

And I guess first we kill Tim for going to the serial killer shrine

Daisy you might be onto something

Hang on what

actually it is slightly interesting that apparently the first 3P kill was on mafia on a night where there was no other kill

Though actually Tim’s headcount ability is nice

Tim I need like all of the information and not just the helpful stuff

eh I sorta think we can just chop Tim here actually. Then Daisy checks Long Con and Gav tracks Daisy / I check Daisy and then we lose to vulgard

Tim lost his night 1 block clear

If the 3p needs to kill a specific person to win they can claim rn and we all win together. They haven’t, so I doubt that’s a thing

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:00 pm if we have a doc/healer they should not reveal/claim unless they are being yeeted.

also I am doc/healer. sk, test your luck and please take a shot at me tonight. thanks ♡

Nice

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:40 pm Daisy I’m with you, Tim seems decently outed and there’s not much to do about that. But consider this: we have six players, so assuming no shenanigans, we always have two chops whether we chop today or sleep today. Sleeping today, since we have the most players alive today, gives us the most info and allows us to potentially save ourselves from making a bad chop.

But we’re always gonna chop Tim, why don’t we just do it now?

Simple. If we chop Tim now and he flips town someone comes back with a red check tomorrow, we won’t know whether or not we can believe them. It puts us in a precarious position and we likely will have to make a decision. But if we sleep today and someone has a red check tonight, they effectively limit the Poe to two: themselves and the checkee.

see that part i bolded and underlined?

u can't get infos if there is no lynch.

tin foil: u r the 3rd party and you win by nks only? and there is a particular player you have to nk but you haven't done it yet?

sorry I don't see your logic in the last part either.. I only bolder it.

so if nothing happens tonight and I am not nked then we have my check of the Molag Bal's champion... I think I have it available tonight? not sure. iirc I can't use it until tomorrow night.

I pmed Sloonei and JaggedJimmyJay this mother about it as I am bad at maths and idk if it is a a tonight or not. ..

if someone else has a check ability. they can check out me or tim.

honestly, if it is not Tim then idk who it can possibly be.

he is some merchant vig? and according to mechanics kills could have easily been done by peeps other then him?

only thing I don't get is last nite. why kill kyle?

like, does get me wrong glad mafia is dead, and they lost... but most peeps town read him.

I don't think Kyle withheld his nk either.. so even though Kyle died, shouldn't his kill been successful?

did Vulgard do some jailor/bus driver shenanigans?

We get info at night that we wouldn’t get otherwise.

The idea is that a red check means that either the person with the check on them is a wolf or the person doing the checking is the wolf. There’s no other option. And at that point we have two chops, so we always win

Why kill Kyle: who knows who cares

Now, the question becomes what’s the best use of night actions. I’m still not 100 percent sure, I have a little more digging to do. A few more questions:

@Gavial can you tell me what all of your shrines do? I have a general idea but I’m looking for some specifics on tracks/watches.

@Timsup2nothin pls claim stuff

@Long Con i have a basic idea of how your power works, but can you say it again for me? The thread is long and I’m looking for an easier solution

Daisy I’m with you, Tim seems decently outed and there’s not much to do about that. But consider this: we have six players, so assuming no shenanigans, we always have two chops whether we chop today or sleep today. Sleeping today, since we have the most players alive today, gives us the most info and allows us to potentially save ourselves from making a bad chop.

But we’re always gonna chop Tim, why don’t we just do it now?

Simple. If we chop Tim now and he flips town someone comes back with a red check tomorrow, we won’t know whether or not we can believe them. It puts us in a precarious position and we likely will have to make a decision. But if we sleep today and someone has a red check tonight, they effectively limit the Poe to two: themselves and the checkee.

Ok ok I’m here give me a second

@Long Con Scotty appears to have taken the vig shots on N1 and N4

Gav do you track to people or shrines or both

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:46 pm i can check vul/tim, gav tracks someone to make sure they're in line, or watches the shrine we send them to, LC can go to any of the results shrines to make sure it all works out. and then daisy cops tim.

what we could do is Gav RTs a shrine, we send vul and Tim for the same shrine. I can check a shrine for the 3p, I check that shrine. Daisy cops like LC or something idk, and then LC goes to my shrine to get my result. Feels like we always get a poe of two here.
I’ll Track someone.

No don’t do that necessarily

Daisy I need you to be in the same thread as me at some point so I can walk you through this

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:22 pm we can lynch tim. if he flips town.. then

tonight I will check Vulgard, Tony, or lc

lc goes to same shrine as me so if I die we still get my result.

gavial tracks or watches any one of us.

tony does? idk still confuded on what he can do.

vulgard can stay home or jail Tony. iirc being jailed results in the player being rbed and protected from nk.

idk why we should not try to lynch someone today. why delay the game more?

No don’t do any of this

or daisy cops tim and we double down on reality

i can check vul/tim, gav tracks someone to make sure they're in line, or watches the shrine we send them to, LC can go to any of the results shrines to make sure it all works out. and then daisy cops tim.

what we could do is Gav RTs a shrine, we send vul and Tim for the same shrine. I can check a shrine for the 3p, I check that shrine. Daisy cops like LC or something idk, and then LC goes to my shrine to get my result. Feels like we always get a poe of two here.

But reasonably if all of the wolves had known this forever we would have known known it by now

I think I’ve said this before but if Tim is the 3P it means that Gav was right and I don’t like that

God I can’t believe he went to molag bal

Tim always thinking there was a vig shrine: TMI?

@spec chat you can stop freaking out we saw it

Scotty not claiming those shots is mildly confusing but also he definitely did claim those shots

I’m gonna go with the weak argument of ‘if I were the 3p Id be insanely happy to just chop Tim here’ but it’s true

I’m trying to justify anything that’s not sleep + mech stuff but I don’t know if it’s possible

Still slightly amazed that none of us read Scotty’s role card and I’m curious as to how Daisy found it

Nah I still think we’re better off playing it safe here

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:32 am Didn't you say that whoever does the SK nightkill or whatever needs to visit Molag Bal? If Daisy's check on Tim is to be believed, then he's exactly the 3p here.

Yeah looking increasingly likely but no need to rush into anything but actually we kinda can and then still get clears tonight because Tim has the least useful powers

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