The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:51 pm mac vs 4 potatoes in f5, he has to find out which 2 are mafia and get them killed while we all watch in dead chat and blame him if he gets it wrong while taking credit for scumreading them all along if he gets it right

I've never seen this happen before

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:10 pm mac/juliets/tutuu/alison/spf f5

1 rogue 1 mafia 3 town

come at me

no fing way mac or actually any of those people make it to f5 over me, a cursed potato

No one gave off hints that Herm informed them previosuly though

I assume whoever got the message couldn't directly claim it, but we're assuming it was Odd anyways?

I probably should get off my behind at this point

ha herm town nice work spa

okay wait I figured it out I'm smart

Samusamu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:55 pm I didn’t visit MR. Has Herm claimed 3P or something or is life going as normal
Herm 3p makes odd mafia directly, do you think odd is mafia?

Enlighten me as to why.

I didn’t visit MR. Has Herm claimed 3P or something or is life going as normal

but there could be an investiagtive on me that can't claim, a different kind of RT or something

I mean 3P

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

yeah wait

Like my instinct is Wilgy's claim is bad -> town and Herm's claim is bad -> scum

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am There's a song on King of Limbs that I wanted checked for reasons I can't reveal but Herm is saying no scum on the album
this false checks herm as false -- he said there were only two people on King of Limbs or that he assumed that there were only two -- the only other person on the album is presumably herm
I assumed there would be two, but I misremembered something about my role in this instance.

That it would be random lol.

I.
hm.
This claim is, at this point, terrible. There are three-four corrections and plot holes and similar problems. I'm inclined to believe it but the problems in the lack of a coherent story might be NAI instead of towny and if so the evidence is overwhelmingly against outside of that.

whatever I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm fine with chop herm and blame SPF if it goes wrong. I don't have any objection to this as I did with Tim

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am There's a song on King of Limbs that I wanted checked for reasons I can't reveal but Herm is saying no scum on the album

this false checks herm as false -- he said there were only two people on King of Limbs or that he assumed that there were only two -- the only other person on the album is presumably herm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:26 am We have three living green checks from Alison.

She is not a protective.

She is alive day 4.

The only world we lose to is a world in which she is mafia.

Just saying ... We shouldn't discount out of hand infoyeeting her today. I'm a bit wobbly about her alignment right now I'm ngl. It's not like we can't just turbo Herm tomorrow to get back to status quo. Yeeting her and flipping her green today hard confirms three players to every other town. At this point the mafia might not even really be able to justify flipping her for that very reason.

Just saying we should discuss this.

The discussion: no

FWIW I agree with the logic and some investigative work on Alison is in order but it all checks out for now. We can wait on it. We don’t need to start looking at absurd possibilities

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:23 am What are Alison's checks?

LC
me
?

I mean also a redirect redirects into the person getting doctored is a completely legitimate comedy of errors

Like wolves have one deep, sure. But block the blocker is a reasonable strategy.

Maybe a godfather too like Nanook not killing Tutuu in Philo

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:14 am Doesn't this practically confirm that there is mafia inside SPF, Mac, Alison? The only reason I can see why they would roleblock Tutuu is to prevent themselves from getting roleblocked by her jailkeeper?

Alternatively— wolves have more information or just aren’t fully comprehending everything in the game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:10 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:09 am There’s the complicating matter here that MR actually is on the album in question
Isn't it only complicating if we believe Herm?

Well Herm’s action was locked in, and I don’t think MR had claimed. It lines up that Herm could
Wait herm was just tracked to MR?
So anyone else with a claim from that album could ruin that but I guess maybe Herm’s a wolf and the role is they learn everyone who’s on the album hm

Mafia could have assumed (perhaps correctly) that I’m out of shots already as well, one shot vig one shot doc sorta thing

There’s the complicating matter here that MR actually is on the album in question

There are also people in this game who would be able to read a holster from me, maybe some risks had to be taken. But I don’t think any of them are scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:05 am Ok you holstered fair enough.

Yeah oops

Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:18 pm My album is also The King of Limbs, so I assume me and Rasishes are the only ones with that album, which probably explains why I was seen visiting.

So once I'm miseliminated, just continue the game with that info in mind.

Yeah okay this is getting out of hand

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:01 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:59 pm I’m tempted to say it’s irrelevant if I did or if I didn’t — the mafia knew that I was assigned to doctor MR, that I was aware of this fact, and that I would as necessary and chose to take the shot anyways.

But no I didn’t doctor MR.
Ok humour me. Why did you go off the plan?

I don’t want to particularly spew strategy or number of shots. It’s safe to say that I am limited in my capability and believed that the mafia team did not fear the doctor. It’s also plausible that I didn’t sufficiently make the mafia team aware of the fact that I was aware of the plan and intended to follow it and thus should have submitted the doctor on MR yada yada yada. I’ll note my doctor didn’t do Hally much good.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:07 pm i will bet the game on herm being scum. he's not town and he's getting chopped today

This is a silly thing to bet the game on

I’m tempted to say it’s irrelevant if I did or if I didn’t — the mafia knew that I was assigned to doctor MR, that I was aware of this fact, and that I would as necessary and chose to take the shot anyways.

But no I didn’t doctor MR.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:24 pm @TonyStarkPrime did you doctor Radish?

Mafia is other people

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 pm Dizzy, Herm, LC, Nanook, Oddmerta, Samusamu is my tentative track pool, @dyachei. I think any of them would be decent tracks.
Why would you want to track one of your cop clears?
because 3P equity. the reason why I cop checked nook was because I was afraid of him being 3P - you can see that I was like "oops I fucked up" when I realized my cop doesn't find 3Ps. I'm going to make an educated guess and say that the 3P has to visit people to use their role, which is why a track on nanook isn't a bad idea because he has no reason to be visiting people at night so if he's tracked to someone that's very suspicious

I mean we don’t really know how the 3P works, a track doesn’t necessarily provide info.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:42 pm Hm. What do we think is the probability of Wilgy being 3P or the probability of there being 2 scum in the same album? Because there's no use verifying Wilgy is OK Computer if we have to exe him anyway because he could be 3P or there could be 2 wolves in Ok Computer. I'll sleep on it.

In the meantime, @MacDougall do you have any thoughts? You came up with the original plan so I'd be interested in hearing what you think the best moves are for town.

Get Bayes on this right away

Tim is dead and town leading TSP to say “I have told you so”

Tim / Wilgy just feels like a stupid v/v day 3 town doing well thing

I don't believe that tim claims a worthless action on ted without having at least visited ted. he can claim a worthless action on anyone

the names voting thing is a common syndi glitch that happens for reasons

I mean maybe

So you're telling me that Wilgy came in here with the worst claim in history, /twice/, and we're supposed to chop him for that?

Before or after Dizzy/

When did Wilgy claim?

except tim but tim's helpful

like cmon why do any of those people make those up as fake claims

as well as like misdirect or whatever

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:49 pm how did we prove this?
dizzy tracked ted to nanook n1
tim visited ted n1
drwilgy was randomly assigned to "watch" ted n1 and claims only 1 person visited him

yeah so several other people could also be lying here

how did we prove this?

lying is bad

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:48 pm A Tim red flip proves that Wilgy, Odd and Ted are all town.
A Tim green flip proves that Wilgy is mafia. It makes Odd and Ted look worse for tunnelling him all game.

The opposite is true if we flip Wilgy. A Wilgy green flip proves that Tim is mafia, which proves that Odd and Ted are town. And a Wilgy red flip proves that Tim is town, which makes Odd and Ted look worse.

explain

assume that I'm not sure what's going on

I, to be clear, have no problem with people posting a lot. Unless I’m waking up and seeing 500 posts since the last time I fell asleep. Then I just groan a bit.

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