juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:43 pm
Ok I finished the ISO for @TonyStarkPrime and have a few comments/questions for Tony. Some are necessarily about his vote for me because I find it odd. I apologize in advance if you find this too long.
Maybe this is nothing but what does he mean here? Tony, why are you saying you'll respond on day 3? It reads to me like you want to get a feel for iaafr's reads first so you can meld with him, but thats just my interpretation. Better that you tell me what you meant.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:14 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:12 pm
just iso'd you and you're really chipper and agreeable
so maybe mac was onto something with you
im never townreading you in this game unless you produce multiple mindmelds
since our analysis styles are supposedly similar
gl tony stark prime
I consider this a challenge to which I will respond to around day 3
This is supposed to be a summary for Michelle but it looks like TSP is just making a list that he can pass off as a reads list. Note he only gives reads on 4 of us and the rest are just descriptors.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am
Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff
To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
TSP what did you mean below when you said you were "uncomfortable"? Were you kidding? If not what was there to feel uncomfortable about?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am
okay guys no more of uhh whatever this is until we figure out who’s trying to do the bad thing
I don’t know what that is cause I haven’t seen inception in a long time but something with brains and dreams
My first candidate is Juliets. Yes / no fight
Tony I just can't figure you out lol
...aka this post reads awkward and bad at face value but like also probably has good intentions?
I am currently uncomfortable
Ok this is yikes. How could you not know 112? It makes me think you are not reading the thread closely which I associate more with scum. Or were you just kidding and if so why would you kid about that? It sounded real though.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am
Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff
To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?
also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
The post below has already been discussed so I'm including it just to be complete.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am
Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff
To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?
also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake
I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.
I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ...
interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.
I did not see this as the stupidest argument ever. And I think saying you don't have a play style is off. Maybe you could explain that a little and I would feel better about it:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff
To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?
also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake
I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
Good callout from Spiny, TSP has been weird overall and I haven't been sure wether it was playstyle - but this feels like a smoking gun to me. TSP scum.
Okay first off I have no playstyle and second off literally I don’t know 112 I did not get a read on them that’s it this is the stupidest argument I have ever heard in... well a long time
As someone else pointed out, Jack I think, this was a good post up to the very last line. With the last line included I don't like it.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P
(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
[VOTE:
Hyena] aubergine
This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.
That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
No u
Sorry mate, you've been pinned. :v
And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.
Super don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.
In all fairness I also want to include your response to Pawn's objection:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:49 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
[VOTE:
Hyena] aubergine
This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.
That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
No u
Sorry mate, you've been pinned. :v
And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.
Super don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.
Okay, jokes aside for one moment. :v is generally meant to be a joking manner or tone, so when I was saying Hyena is pinned it was meant to be a joke.
However, I already independently scum read Hyena at this point considering my vote on him. So while while it is a joke, there is undertones of my belief scattered through it.
And on the lynch train idea? Hell no, I don't ever finalize lynches a day beforehand. Actually auoting out lynches is how town loses games.
That was me pointing out a conditional associative based on something that another player pointed out, that once I saw, I agreed with.
1) jokes aside is bad Town don’t put aside jokes and act calm
2) nothing wrong with first sentence or suspicion on Hyena though I guess what I was calling into question was not made clear
3) yes duh on lynch train but the suggestion was there. Town has no reason to make a suggestion they don’t believe (well I mean they do but not in this case), scum wants to at least check the grounds for priming an Epi lynch is my thinking.
4) sure I guess it’s fine I just don’t like the phrasing but for players I’m unfamiliar with again I’m not going to die on a phrasing case
I'm going to stop there and discuss his suspicion of me.
Here is his original statement of suspicion of me:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:55 pm
@the post I’m responding to from Juliets
I think I’ve only ever played with scum Juliets that post looks and sounds like that in that game. I’d Lynch but that’s not a strong meta argument.
So he's played with me once and admits he doesn't have a strong argument.
Then:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am
okay guys no more of uhh whatever this is until we figure out who’s trying to do the bad thing
I don’t know what that is cause I haven’t seen inception in a long time but something with brains and dreams
My first candidate is Juliets. Yes / no fight
So now he's ready to fight for me being scum, even though he doesn't have a strong argument.
thats right no one took me up on it
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:15 pm
[VOTE:
Juliets] aubergine
No new reason, just coasting on my one scum read from the players I’m almost familiar with
And now he votes me saying I'm his one scum read from the players he's almost familiar with.
I didn't see any attempt to examine my posts or reads or progress his read on me - he even says he's coasting. This is something scum do, using weak reasoning and riding that reasoning. Now he has since changed his vote so I have to give him some credit for that, but his reasons for voting Pawn also seem weak.
Looking at it all together I can see a scum read at this point. There may be some things I left out as I didn't want to make this any longer. Maybe someone else could take a look.
