The Syndicate

might be best to sleep tonight and then go from there but maybe 3p doesn't inherit kill

and i call myself good at mech smh

just realizing now that I'm slightly blind and we might have had a red check on Kyle

i wonder then if daisy would have given two clears but idk

ok so i think it's just flat out daisy but after then we can get to thinking

we'd love them and would not do anything to them

yep the vig should claim

where'd the mafia kill go

yeah this one's easy i guess

ok so it's never vulgard

ok who do we have clears on

eh we would have chopped kyle today anyways but now we just have to guess who the random independent is with little to no information about it

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:49 pm But yeah Kyle + Mac to Tim = SK Check.
So the push on Tim from Mac makes sense if Tim is SK.

no does not

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:56 am The best way to end this game would be to get a red check on Kyle and a green check on Daisy and then chop daisy

well i knew it :P

Like I’m inclined to accept MR’s explanation of his absence but I don’t really have an idea if it means anything/ what it would mean. For someone like me it would be town indicative here, but I’ve learned not to apply the same ideas.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:08 am Maybe Radish's apathy is partially attributable to being the 3p? I'm fine with chopping 3p if that's the case.

That’s sorta my guess as well but I don’t really know what to do about him anyways

We might only have one depending on night actions, but, importantly, even if we fail and everything goes bad, we drop to 3 town and 1 wolf WITH a wolf kill, so Vul can’t hold back the wolf kill and blame it on LC or anything

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:02 am Busdriver can be a town or scum role, and I advise you not to make decisions based on believing otherwise.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:59 am I agree with LC’s assessment on Vul on day 6, but reiterate that it’s a bad chop for other reasons
Please reiterate again for me, I'm listening. What is the correct path here?

As vanilla town, I'm fine with getting roleblocked tonight.

My main reason for chopping MR is he’s a liability in F5/3 scenarios. There’s no reason why he can’t be scum, his interactions are at the very least bad, and he’s skating through this game. With Vul, at least there’s some positive utility. Plus, Vul’s role has potential usefulness: as a roleblocker, he can potentially stop a kill / get a clear which is important in this game state. I also think Vul probably isn’t capable of the entrance that he had into this game as a wolf, but that’s sorta a bad meta argument.

The best part is there’s nothing in that summary that says it’s a mafia role

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:54 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:40 am this is a direct copy paste from mafia universe.. Vulgard's bus driver is a mafia role..

sorry idk how to link it directly.

Role
Mafia Database
Bus Driver
Role Description:

The Bus Driver may each night target two players and switch them, causing any actions directed at one to be used on the other instead.

Notes:

For example, if Player A and Player B are bus driven, and someone attempts to kill Player A and someone attempts to roleblock Player B, the bus driving action will result in Player B being killed and Player A being roleblocked. It varies whether a Bus Driver is able to self-target. It also varies whether a host will tell Cop roles that their target was manipulated with.

Role Type:

Redirection, Multi-targeting

Role Frequency:

Occasionally

Use of Action:

Night

Supported by Modbot:

No

Alternative Names:

Transporter

Chauffeur

Charon

Related Roles:

Taxi Driver

Traffic Controller

Games containing this role:
Start Date Game Type Game Title Winning Faction Main Host Post Count
2016-09-05 Closed 27 Mafia (Link) Mafia TheresASnakeInMyBoot 7382
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[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

I think Kyle never had a good cherry pie or blueberry pie or pecan pie. berry pies are good if done right. otherwise they r too sweet.
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good

I agree with LC’s assessment on Vul on day 6, but reiterate that it’s a bad chop for other reasons

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:34 am I unvoted Vulgard as he is uncced. I still think he is scummy though from his iso
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I think we need to consider how much we really want to believe people's role claims though.

also we haven't talked about who we are lynching.

we been back and forth.

pie

Uncced in... what?

In this game multiple players have access to multiple things and therefore I suspect it’s more a “both” powet

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:31 am @TonyStarkPrime I am not an expert on all rhe roles in the game of mafia. I asked this before. iirc no one answered, but isn't bys driver a scum/mafia role?

I know jailor is a town role. however where I come from we have had mafia jailors in a few games.

Eh, who knows. Why do you ask

nah somethin somethin coins it doesn't work like that

ugh there's a seperate problem if MR is a straight miss though

I'm thinking LC rn

don't get yourself mod killed

that's not even an image anymore smh

i mean day 4 was w/w/t with four wolves alive there better have been a wolf on that t or I'm gonna be very confused

idk, would mr be doing more if he were a wolf? ... maybe??

yeah i got all that mech stuff but I'm worried cause 3p. still working out the possibilities. depends a bit on flip i think.

Daisy I’m going to need you to convince me otherwise if that’s what you want me to do. Same for LC but LC is kinda MIA

I’m not tied to my town read on vul but I think it’s probably good

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:53 pm looking at Enrique's/Vulgard's iso. I think they r sus

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

incredible

The best way to end this game would be to get a red check on Kyle and a green check on Daisy and then chop daisy

One good reason not to vote Vul is that he has a very nice power for tonight though actually it’s kinda bad because you don’t really want to be saving anyone you’re jailing

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 9:32 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 9:16 pm lc is a possible? wolf but i think pretty much everyone else is on good footing
That doesn't sound right at all.

well and mr

and if MR is just the 3p then ok MR is just the 3p

lc is a possible? wolf but i think pretty much everyone else is on good footing

well if the 3p hits the wolf tonight we might just flat out win idk

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:17 pm ok so we have 8 people alive

6 town, 1 wolf, 1 indie

if we assume 1 death each night,

4 town 1 wolf 1 indie

2 town 1 wolf 1 indie

if we assume the 3p can town side then that makes the PoE 3 people right? if we can reliably and correctly reduce the PoE to 3 people then this game is a win, right? is my math correct

we basically have one wrong chop unless either the 3p or the wolf hits tonight in which case we have two wrong chops

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:44 pm also tony, did you read wherr I showed a few of my posts where I talked about my nite actions in early game?

like, no one acknowledged those posts. and u and gavial were so hung up on that stuff

i saw them, I'm gonna have to do the work myself tbh. There are some concerns I have that weren't expressed in the thread and I need to see if some things check out. But for now you're good in my eyes.

also it's a buffalo springfield reference, boomers. get with the times

why is this so obnoxious we just chopped four wolves

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:17 pm I evaluate when I KNOW I AM WRONG.
If I don’t think I am IDC to evaluate.

I have a green on Daisy and Tim shot a wolf

Therefore
You’re wrong

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:24 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:04 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 12:01 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:59 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:57 am

Meh, Kyle looks pretty clean.
Dude!
TF?
Yes?
Can you like respond to stuff, your thoughts are so scattered and questionable it’s not funny.
I don't think it's scattered or questionable to have a look at Kyle. Maybe you are thinking of your own posts, and confusing them with mine.
Dude it’s not that.
It’s that it looks like you haven’t been paying any attention to the game state at all.

Did you even read anything that went on yesterday and the cause of what went down?
Because you shouldn’t always keep your reads regardless of flip you should always evaluate via flip as well.

So let me see if you have been paying attention or not.
When Marmot flipped Scum, who was the cause of the wagon and whom looks good from the Marmot flip?
@Long Con

are you gonna say you because I think that’s questionable

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:23 pm for what it's worth
i think it’s time to stop
What did you mean here, Tony? Time to stop what?

Hey, what’s that sound

are you the 3p

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