The Syndicate

Can we have an outside interpreter determine which of us understands the setup

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich
Now this is a step too far
And "Heehokun" wasn't?

What in tarnation is heehokun

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich

Now this is a step too far

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 am If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think
In what world does Urist's alleged level of seriousness equate to chopping me?
In the world of Urist's post
Perhaps you are confusing seriousness with prescience?
Uh no but let me explain in a different way:
If Urist means the things he says, he should come to the conclusion that we should chop LC
i don't think you understand the setup

No I don’t think /you/ understand the setup

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:29 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 am If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think
In what world does Urist's alleged level of seriousness equate to chopping me?
In the world of Urist's post
Perhaps you are confusing seriousness with prescience?
Uh no but let me explain in a different way:
If Urist means the things he says, he should come to the conclusion that we should chop LC
But that still doesn't mean that we should chop LC. It just means that you townread Urist.

No it means neither of those things.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:45 pm Scumreading Sloonei is a tactic for keeping him alive until d2 and is therefore NAI
scumreading sloonei is clearly AI

I don't like this post at all

Do I need to start marking all of my posts that ought not be taken seriously

Scumreading Sloonei is a tactic for keeping him alive until d2 and is therefore NAI

Speaking of, English — can you explain your chop read?

English is c4e5yadayada @jack

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 am If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think
In what world does Urist's alleged level of seriousness equate to chopping me?
In the world of Urist's post
Perhaps you are confusing seriousness with prescience?

Uh no but let me explain in a different way:
If Urist means the things he says, he should come to the conclusion that we should chop LC

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 am If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think
In what world does Urist's alleged level of seriousness equate to chopping me?

In the world of Urist's post

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 am Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread
Odd reply. Why are you being cagey about townreads?

I haven't been cagey about this, this info is available itt

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 am So I think chop is a wolf but I also think foresight is and I don't think they're wolves together

Luckily this is multiball

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:33 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:32 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:31 am Yeah that’s a wolf right

Call me that again.
Wolf

Towny mind meld

[VOTE: Chop] aubergine

Yeah that’s a wolf right

I do not think "Alison" and also "her early reads are very serious" to be honest

I'll leave this one as an exercise for the reader.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:51 am ok I just saw that epi pipboy post and I think it's either a post restriction or a gimmick

either way he's cleared up my concern about him

Back to alison town

On day 0 I had four posts and reasonably your read is like wrong but okay fine. And also, it's day 0.

and also I forgot

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:46 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:44 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:43 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:40 amtsp town lean
have not seen anything yet that makes me retract my scumread of him early because he was jumping all over the place without much thoughtfulness in the way he does when he's scum trying to mimic his twitchy town style (see mysterious universe)
alison townread removed
why

I don't think this is a good read and alison is supposed to make good reads. And OMGUS and all that.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:43 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:40 amtsp town lean
have not seen anything yet that makes me retract my scumread of him early because he was jumping all over the place without much thoughtfulness in the way he does when he's scum trying to mimic his twitchy town style (see mysterious universe)

alison townread removed

@Jackofhearts2005 game started

I think that's standard new player on the block stuff tbh. I'm not reading much into it. Though, I remember when you did it in SI and some people were like "alison lock town" so idk

tempted to write alison in as town for really bad reasons

Sloonei is a good wolf but there's a difference that has already made itself clear

k I'm locking sloonei as town for fairly obvious reasons

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa
can you explain this a bit more
my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

I'm noting this in my iso for if I read back. Do other people who know Esooa think this is accurate?

hot take: KZA is Epi bait and this read from Epi is >rand town for Epi and conveys nothing about KZA

If anything Sloonei is TMIing LC as town with something like that, you don't not like that townread and still think that LC is a wolf

Like I think Esooa's scumread of LC is contrived and then the fact that they move from that to an associative scumread of Sloonei for townreading LC feels even more contrived

But the tonal shift thing is good and the sort of thing town would 100 percent be thinking about so idk. I didn't really notice that sort of thing from LC

It struck me as tonally off in a way I don't know if I can quite adequately explain but two things--

the scumread on you comes from your read on LC, and they say that LC is "very likely wolf", so presumably thinking w/w. I presume the scumread from the vote but note a bit of a deflection from making a direct read in that post. Anyways, I don't think they've interacted with LC in a way that prompts this sort of associative read. I guess you asked them for the post, so the response was forced, but ok

then back to back "You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that" and "past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny", which are not two reasonable consecutive thoughts imo.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:04 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"

I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be

but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia

you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why
How do you read me right now?
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that

past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny

Nah I sorta think this is just wolf, but the thought process feels ~fine~ here

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:32 pm I guess my name is Foresight now.

I'm going to stick with English unless 2...d5 has a special name (it doesn't seem like a good option but that's beside the point)

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:24 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:23 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

bizarre --> town?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:13 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:26 am Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing
My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?
I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.
I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

I think it's too bigbrained in this world. Fake, sure. Easy, no.

no more dancing allowed in the thread

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:04 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:01 pm I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped
Wait you are still alive? Aren't you supposed to get lynched the moment you say mafia or "maphia"
after that game three people tried it in other games and it didn't work so well for them
Sounds like a threat.

it's like a past tense threat

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:01 pm I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped
Wait you are still alive? Aren't you supposed to get lynched the moment you say mafia or "maphia"

after that game three people tried it in other games and it didn't work so well for them

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:00 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:57 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:55 pm i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't
But I am town, I wouldn't do that.
the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is
Why did you cloak your town reads in anonymity?

not an answer but I have seen you do this literally a bajillion times

I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:30 pm i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

I do too. compare notes?

I think our english friend is too urgent but also probably town

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:03 pm I hit post-cap before everyone else so you're all scum and I am absolutely volume cleared

I'm joking, obviously

wait there's a post count

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:02 pm Hey guys, metadiving is a huge PITA and so is figuring out whether NAI playstyle stuff is actually NAI playstyle stuff or not, so everyone gimme some playstyle cliffnotes. Here are mine.

Pros: Bunch o' stuff.
Cons: Can't brown nose for shit. Can't PR read for shit.
Gameplan: Make bad reads until I can make good reads.
Misc.: *deep inhale*

The shortest cycle length ever to be run on my home site was one 3/1 game, and most cycle lengths are things like 10/2 and 14/2, so TS cycles are definitely pretty fast for me. I've played a few 2/1 games on MU, so I can still keep up with reading for sure, and I can still make reads for sure, but don't expect me to highpost unless I really want to. For the same reason, I'm not so experienced with the live interaction side of this time format, which is something I'm hoping to learn more about.

My home site doesn't have pages, just long scrolls of posts, which actually makes wallposts easier to read than quintaposts n stuff. Wallposting is a habit I've been told to break on a couple of sites with actual pages. Will work on that.

Esooa is the only player here that I've played with before (I mean, who hasn't played with Esooa before at this point?), but I'm sorta familiar with spf's playstyle because I read G6. I'm also familiar with the playstyles of some other players here for reasons I can't talk about.

twtbaw

Someoone read the setup and tell me what to look out for

maphia

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