The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:41 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:40 am if ted's a wolf, he's on the other team
I am losing sight of the townie thread in your thoughts.

what do you think about it though

if ted's a wolf, he's on the other team

ready for this bold read:

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 am
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Look, there is only one way this can go
Poll runs till Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

AL_sama
4
19%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, MacDougall, tutuu, Alison
Alison
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca
BoKnows
1
5%
Voters: Justplayingitcool
Dom
0
No votes
Voters: None
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Justplayingitcool
1
5%
Voters: Oddmerta
KZA
1
5%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
1
5%
Voters: staypositivefriend
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
5%
Voters: KZA
Oddmerta
3
14%
Voters: BoKnows, tedxtr, Long Con
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
Strawhenge
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime
2
10%
Voters: fingersplints, Esooa
tutuu
2
10%
Voters: Sloonei, Marmot
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Is one of them the "hard way"? (Host/Dead/Non)
3
14%
Voters: nutella, Epignosis, novaselinenever
Total votes: 21

I don't have time to play at work

I looked earlier at the thread and i saw a post mentioning a tie between Marmot and Odd, now Marmot's wagon dissipated and Al is top wagon

I decided to keep this VC and I will do it again, i forgot we need some VCs.

I will cast a vote on Marmot, probably that wagon have to exist. No, i didn't read and I will appreciate if someone tells me a towny activity from Marmot explaining the votes movement.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

i think I'm probably not allowed to do VC anymore but wow look at that vote count

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:31 am Alison you have made like negative two attempts to actually engage with anything I've said this game and I don't think that's very cash money of you
If I might stick my pretty little nose in here, I don't think Alison is the only one guilty of not engaging in good faith here.

yes ok to be fair I kicked her out of my town core

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:08 am probably not w/w with marmot

spf
michelle
boknows
hally

is there a reason why not michelle here?

Alison you have made like negative two attempts to actually engage with anything I've said this game and I don't think that's very cash money of you

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:26 pm see, i get to live past d1 and i'm already lock cleared

hm

terrible fake distancing attempt I'm already cleared from the team you're on

it's a joke alison if you say one thing about tsp trying to chop mech confirmed town I will I swear light a can of dr pepper on fire

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:24 pm If you aren't voring ted today I will scum read you

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:21 am [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

caught one

ok I was wrong on michelle she's topping tier three now

I mean I'm pretty sure drive by VVV read on ted is something very close to the towniest thing anyone could have done itt

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:15 am How in the ever loving fuck did you go from "I don't believe Alison's bullshit claim for a second" to "Alison is in tier 1, the mech confirms"

How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "Sloonei is the only consensus town"

How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "only Sloonei and TSP are interested in solving"

the first thing involves the setup "best reasons to consider town" which is a different question and there are /very/ good reasons to consider you town
the second one of these things I explained
the third thing is provocative

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:12 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:08 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:08 am TonyStarkPrime says he has trouble keeping Strawhenge and fingersplints straight. He lists Strawhenge in Tier 2 as a comfortable town read. He lists fingersplints in his bottom tier of primary suspects.
yes
You think this computes over here?

if finger has also derped -> town let me know

are we all going to ignore the fact that michelle just came in here and listed ted as her strongest townread

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:11 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:05 amwhy
the reasoning that you gave felt more like it was from a wolf that was making up villagery sounding reasons off of the top of their head moreso than it felt like a villager who was critically evaluating the game. i know that sounds vague, but you gave a villager lean on nanook that was based on meta. you gave a townlean on boknows because "he's probably town". and selfishly, i am doubtful that you would say "SPF fits onto either team decently" (even though you say you lean on me not being with marmot) if you had genuinely evaluated the marmot spew. me and marmot are very blatantly unaligned, and i feel that your attempt to keep the option of me/marmot being teamed open could stem from you not wanting to feel boxed in

these are nitpicky points but it is a problem i have with your posts in this game in general - i struggle to believe that your reads have conviction. your reads ~make sense~ and they are logical, but they don't feel real. shrug.

I did not say the bold thing. We talked about Bo earlier. The villager lean on nanook is in fact based on meta. He's not around, what can I say.

and Straw is the one who town derped

that's because I have stolen this information from others

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:08 am TonyStarkPrime says he has trouble keeping Strawhenge and fingersplints straight. He lists Strawhenge in Tier 2 as a comfortable town read. He lists fingersplints in his bottom tier of primary suspects.

yes

And Ving Al too wow

if i start town reading michelle for VVVing ted will anyone accuse me of buddying

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:54 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 am tier 3: ehhhh
spf
jpic
nanook
bk
lc
Michelle

tier 4:
finger
kza
al
ted

unr: dom (but I think more likely wolf for reasons)
Let's talk about these tiers. Why are spf and bo stuck in ehhhh? A few minutes ago you said bo was probably town. SPF is a popular town read.

Why is nanook in tier 3 rather than tier 4? Why is fingersplints in tier 4 rather than tier 3? Why is Dom "more likely wolf"?
And lastly, have you given any consideration to how any of these folks would fit on either of the hypothetical teams?

the difference between tier 3 and tier 4 is not particuarly well thought out. I think Nanook is playing slightly in his town profile more here, especially in a multiball game. I generally expect mafia nanook to try to keep a hand on the wheel a bit more, and in a multiball game I think I'd expect that even more. As I don't see that, that's enough to raise him above a fair amount of the crowd. I just read Mac's iso and he said that he thought Bo was polarising or something. IDK. He's probably town. I would have had him in tier 4 before. SPF is at the top of tier 3 but I consider tier 1 and 2 to be what would colloquially be towncore (frankly I don't get all the reads there but okay) and SPF hasn't done enough to justify this assertion. I have done next to zero work on finger and honestly can't keep them and straw straight but my general impression is they fit on either team decently (I'm leaning towards not marmot though). Could be tier 3 but probably not higher than LC at least. I've thought about teams a bit but seeing as we have no information on one it's not a top priority. But people who I think are cleared from being teamed with marmot get boosts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:40 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:39 am If the town core is just the people who are near consensus town then it's just you
This is not true.

that's with the initial statement that it's the people who appear are interested in solving

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:40 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:39 am The town core is the people who I think are going to work to solve the game and right now it's you and me.
Which players do you think we have the best reasons to regard as town?

in order:

tier 1: the mech

hally
--
odd
alison

tier 2: good vibes??

sloonei
straw
falcon
esooa

tier 3: ehhhh
spf
jpic
nanook
bk
lc
Michelle

tier 4:
finger
kza
al
ted

unr: dom (but I think more likely wolf for reasons)

If the town core is just the people who are near consensus town then it's just you

The town core is the people who I think are going to work to solve the game and right now it's you and me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:34 am i think that's fair.
Great. Could you please tell me which players you think are in the "towncore" and why they are there, and which players are not in it?

I'm gonna be very purposefully obtuse: what is a towncore?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:29 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:26 am Yes I have no complaints with the current current
Then what the hell are you doing?
trying to get other people to solve the game with me what did you think I was doing
Complaining about the current state of things, I just said this.
well i might start complaining that people thought I was complaining but no I have no complaints
This feels like you are putting on an act of obtuseness. I am accusing you of doing that. How does that make you feel?

i think that's fair.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:11 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:43 am @Long Con wanna form like a second town core
This kind of thing typically comes from scum.
alison I'm so blatantly town this game that if you say it one more time I'm banning you from my town core
You are in fact a top scumread of both JJJ and Mac and me and Hally. I am probably just going to burn you with fire.
sorry can't hear you you're banned from the town core
none of this makes any sense unless the perspective is, again "extremely scummy posts" or "outright lie"

Cause this is not a 'town read'

Why are you removing your town read from Alison?

Like, nothing you post makes any sense at all

None of it pulls town in a helpful direction either

I'm not removing my town read from Alison.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:29 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:26 am Yes I have no complaints with the current current
Then what the hell are you doing?
trying to get other people to solve the game with me what did you think I was doing
Complaining about the current state of things, I just said this.

well i might start complaining that people thought I was complaining but no I have no complaints

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:26 am Yes I have no complaints with the current current
Then what the hell are you doing?

trying to get other people to solve the game with me what did you think I was doing

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:25 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:23 am TSP literally like 50% of what you post is either

1: the scummiest shit I've ever seen

2: an outright lie
ok except for the one time where I thought the legion line was in matthew I don't think I did any of the second thing
yes

And that's my problem

Because it makes literally no sense at all when you're in thread saying

"I just town locked Alison but I'm going push her"

then later

"Alison isn't the town core, LC is! Even though I have no reason to town read him"

I haven't pushed Alison

I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list

I just said this

Yes I have no complaints with the current current

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:23 am TSP literally like 50% of what you post is either

1: the scummiest shit I've ever seen

2: an outright lie

ok except for the one time where I thought the legion line was in matthew I don't think I did any of the second thing

I have no complaints with the way the game is proceeding I think everything's going swimmingly and after we kill ted and probably waste a day or two chopping low posters we can come back to any of these complaints

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:11 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:43 am @Long Con wanna form like a second town core
This kind of thing typically comes from scum.
alison I'm so blatantly town this game that if you say it one more time I'm banning you from my town core
You are in fact a top scumread of both JJJ and Mac and me and Hally. I am probably just going to burn you with fire.
sorry can't hear you you're banned from the town core
Alison is much more situated in the town core than you are.

that's the fake town core.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:43 am @Long Con wanna form like a second town core
This kind of thing typically comes from scum.
alison I'm so blatantly town this game that if you say it one more time I'm banning you from my town core
You are in fact a top scumread of both JJJ and Mac and me and Hally. I am probably just going to burn you with fire.

sorry can't hear you you're banned from the town core

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:45 am ok I just flat out don't believe alison's claim at all and like I'm not going to /act/ on this but it's absolutely insane and I'm not going to sit around like it's not
so you're just outing

ok

that's it you're not allowed in the club

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:43 am @Long Con wanna form like a second town core
This kind of thing typically comes from scum.

alison I'm so blatantly town this game that if you say it one more time I'm banning you from my town core

but very high poe in any case

I think Finger's on the non-marmot team

someone just link me his scum games I've never seen any of them

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:13 pm
An Analysis of Marmot's Mentions
Earlier today I finished my analytics course so I thought it would be nice to do something analytically to celebrate. This is a basic breakdown of Marmot's posts and how he mentioned every single one of us. I went through Marmot's ISO and counted the number of times he quoted someone, and mentioned someone in one of his posts. I then categorized every single one of Martin's mentions into three categories; Null, Town, and Scum.

I categorized something a "Town" post/mention when Marmot labelled you as a town-read/lean, defended you, or gave you props for one of your posts.
I categorized something a "Scum" post/mention when Marmot scum read you, disliked what you were saying, or voted for you.
Null is everything else

It is important to keep in mind that the data doesn't fully account for sarcasm and tone. If Marmot said "I think BoKnows is scum for posting twice in a row", I would count that as a scum post. These numbers also do not show the progression of Marmots reads. These are just raw numbers that will visualize Marmot's interactions. In my opinion, these graphs will be best paired with all the analyses Jay already did.

Complete Overview
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Individual Breakdown
*Disclaimer: if you can't find a certain player all of their posts were considered null
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wolfy pie charts

do we just assume that's out of his range as a wolf? It'd be out of a lot of people's ranges. Jay likes to make charts when he's a wolf though so idk. Most people aren't jay.

oh i didn't even look at the pie charts

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:19 pm TonyStarkPrime seems sus *Vote TSP*

tbh I don't like his first post

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