The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:26 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:46 pm Also I am maintaining my zero percent winrate on the syndicate -- sorry to all of my teammates I guess.

That's not far from being totally random. novaselinenever lost his first 8 games here. Wins and losses often don't say much about anyone's individual performances.

Oh I’m too arrogant for that to make me think I’m doing poorly

Outside of the game where I was lynched and modkilled day 1 that was probably not a great sifn

Both? I missed that. Wowie. :P You played fine this game TSP. Town gut/analysis was just on fire.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:46 pm Have they this year? If so, that's cool.

And yeah, mechanics won't prevent a d1 mafia lynch.

I'd say the space from about Q3 2018 through Q3 2019 has been largely defined by Day 1 mafia lynches, with numerous of those games still ending in mafia wins.

I should know.

I've experienced similar. *cough* Phenon Origins V1 *cough*

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:12 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:40 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:01 am I also could have specified that roleclaiming, action claiming, and 'I'm not telling you but this is mechanical' claiming wasn't allowed. Once again, I did not.

I'm not upset with Drago, and especially not with Epi. Again, I think town played extremely well, and this set of circumstances in no way invalidates the game. Drago used his night actions really well, though partly by chance.

It's weird that I can barely remember games without D1 mafia lynches anymore. We need to start favoring mafia more in the setups. :P

I agree

The mafia teams still win more often than civilians win.

Have they this year? If so, that's cool.

And yeah, mechanics won't prevent a d1 mafia lynch.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:16 am So....this game did not have Hack Frost or Dante from the Devil May Cry series in it.

I did choose good personas as flavor when giving Dragomir his options. One of them could have been Jack Frost. (But it wasn't.)

Run your own Persona Mafia, my friend. If you based it on personas instead of Phantom Thieves, it would be a very different game (and also not a heist)

I've said my spiel. Good game, everyone. Better luck in another game, Epi, TSP, Rej. Well played.

Feel free to discuss, and thanks for playing!

Where will the whims of fate lead us?
Poll runs till Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:31 pm
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Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dragomir
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
3
33%
Voters: nutella, MacDougall, Dragomir
Jackofhearts2005
2
22%
Voters: Creature, sprityo
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Lynch
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kaneshiro! (Host/Mod/NP/Dead)
4
44%
Voters: Rej, juliets, speedchuck, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 9

I also could have specified that roleclaiming, action claiming, and 'I'm not telling you but this is mechanical' claiming wasn't allowed. Once again, I did not.

I'm not upset with Drago, and especially not with Epi. Again, I think town played extremely well, and this set of circumstances in no way invalidates the game. Drago used his night actions really well, though partly by chance.

It's weird that I can barely remember games without D1 mafia lynches anymore. We need to start favoring mafia more in the setups. :P

Day 1 was unfortunate for mafia. By losing TSP, they lost half their utility.

Night 1: Dragomir got some boring options randomly, so he chose to give baton to Morgana. This did nothing. It probably should have notified Epignosis, but I didn't think that would matter in a game without claims. I was wrong.
Rej chose to insanify/voteblock nutella. That was fun.

Day 2: Rej was lynched. He still could have won if mafia had killed Dragomir, but Drago survived.

Night 2: On a 3/13 chance, Drago happened to get the option to anon neighbor someone for a day. Then he happened to pick the ONLY person he'd targeted (by their fake role name, so it was complete coincidence), who happened to be mafia. If any of those things weren't perfect, this would not have happened.
The two talked in QT about claims. I could have outlawed that in the neighbor chat. Another decision of mine that could have prevented the hardclaim. I did not.
Obviously once Epi claimed Morgana, the baton pass didn't line up. Drago asked me if the baton pass could fail. I told him it could fail in a coupole different ways and it would not notify anyone if it did.
He bluffed in the chat anyway that he knew for sure why it had failed, which was a safe bet, to be sure.
Epi conceded.

I did not see this going this way.

Good game, all! Thanks for playing.

SETUP:

Game has eleven characters:

Ren - Town power role
Ryuji
Morgana
Ann
Yusuke
Makoto
Futaba
Haru
Kasumi
Sae
Mishima

Two of the vanillas are chosen to be mafia, and replaced with:
Kamoshida
Shido - mafia power role
This gives the two mafia some fakeclaim ability.

One other vanilla is chosen to be replaced by a third party:
Akechi - 3p power role

Leaving the game at 7v2v1.

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Leaving the setup as:

6 vanilla town, 1 vanilla mafia

Ren - Town Persona User and Confidant
Each night Ren is given three persona powers at random to choose from. OR he can select one of the vanilla town names from the list above, passing the baton to them and giving them a power to use instead. If he selects a mafioso name, there is no effect.

Shido - Mafia Piercing Killer, Tracker/Roleblocker
If Shido performs the kill, it is a piercing kill. If not, he can visit someone to roleblock and track them to see who they would have visited.

Akechi - 3P Persona User - Power Role Assassin
Each night Akechi is given three persona powers at random to choose from, from a slightly longer list than Ren's.
Aketchi's goal is to make sure that neither Ren nor Shido survive. Akechi has a 1-shot BP vest, AND a 1-shot vig, but he loses the vest if he uses the vig.

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-Personas-
Absorber - Copy anything you are targeted with for use in the next night
Empty shot giveaway - fake a daykill attempt
Bodyguard - die instead of target
Redirect - move kill off you onto some random townie
Messenger - sends one message rewritten by the mod with identity redacted
1-day anon neighbor
insanifier - curse someone
Motion Detector - detects unspecified night actions from/to
Voyeur - sees actions but not culprit
Thief - steal an item related to that person's (false) role
Stump - if killed this night, remain as stump
Visitor - visits. No other effect.
Janitor - Get night reveal personally delivered to you (Akechi only)

Baton Pass Powers:
Roleblocker - (Ann)*
Cop - (Makoto)
Self-doc (Kasumi)
Permanent anon neighbor (Morgana)*
Insanifier/voteblock (Yusuke)*
Guard - show a random teammate who Ren is (Ryuji)
Neapolitan - see if target is vanilla townie (Haru)*
Watcher - watches target (Futaba)*
1 -shot doublevote - (Sae Nijima)*
Reporter - (Mishima)

*also an akechi persona option


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Claims of night actions and of roles are not allowed, even with the fakeclaim/aliases that all non-town will have.

Epi has Conceded. He was... Masayoshi Shido, Mafia Piercing Killer, Tracker/Roleblocker.

If Shido performs the kill, it is a piercing kill. If not, he can visit someone to roleblock and track them to see who they would have visited..

I'm not upset about the way the game ended. I do wish Dragomir hadn't claimed, but it is what it is. The game headed in that direction anyway, and town was on fire all game. I bear a little of the blame for setup choices that led here. I will explain in a follow-up post that talks about the setup (and how this particular day's result happened on a one in a thousand chance.)

I hope you'll all celebrate your win as earned, and stick with me for the discussion!

TOWN has won! - Creature, Dragomir, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay, Long Con, MacDougall, nutella, and sprityo.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] has been killed! He was Yusuke Kitagawa, vanilla town.

Day 3 has begun!

It will last 48 hours.

[mention]Creature[/mention] [mention]Dragomir[/mention] [mention]Epignosis[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention] [mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]sprityo[/mention]

GAME'S BACK ON BOYS!

POLL

Who took Ann out of the picture?
Poll ended at Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:38 pm
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Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dragomir
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
3
30%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005, nutella, JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
1
10%
Voters: MacDougall
Rej
4
40%
Voters: sprityo, Epignosis, Dragomir, Rej
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
No lynch
0
No votes
Voters: None
Madarame! (host/np/mod/ded)
2
20%
Voters: Sloonei, speedchuck
Total votes: 10

I'll reiterate the 'no claiming' rule with Akechi's infodump. No claims. Thanks.

Rej was lynched. He was... Goro Akechi, 3P Assassin.

Spoiler picture from Persona 5: After being targeted by the Phantom Thieves, Akechi comes forward and reveals his plans and knowledge:

You are a third party assassin. Your goal is to make sure the other two power roles in the game, one town and one mafia, die. If the game ends with one of them alive, you lose.

You are a persona user! A selection of 3 random personas will be available each night. Each persona provides a different power. You are free to use one of them.

You also have a 1-shot bulletproof and a 1-shot vigilante! If you use one, you lose the other. You cannot use this power at the same time as a persona.

Night ends 24 hours from this post, or possibly earlier if all night actions are sent in.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:01 am Morning. When does the day end?

Could have sworn I set it to 2 days.

Fixed. Tomorrow at noon-ish my time.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] has been killed! He was Ann Takamaki, vanilla town.

Day 2 has begun!

It will last 48 hours.

Who needs their heart changed?
Poll ended at Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:56 pm
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Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None

Dragomir
0
No votes
Voters: None

Epignosis
1
8%
Voters: Creature

Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None

MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None

nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None

Rej
2
17%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis

sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None

TonyStarkPrime
6
50%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Rej, Dragomir, nutella, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall

Nobody
1
8%
Voters: sprityo

Principal Kobayakawa (host/mod/non)
2
17%
Voters: speedchuck, Sloonei
Total votes: 12

TonyStarkPrime was lynched. He was Suguru Kamoshida, Mafia Vanilla.



Night ends 24 hours from this post, or possibly earlier if all night actions are sent in.

Whose heart needs changing?

D1 will last 48 hours.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 pm Hold on am I voting twice in the poll?

I have no idea how you did that.

11 players:
-Creature
-Dragomir
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
-JaggedJimmyJay - Vanilla Town, killed N2
-Long Con - Vanilla Town, killed N1
-MacDougall
-nutella
-Rej - 3P Assassin, lynched D2
-sprityo
-TonyStarkPrime - Vanilla Mafia, Lynched D1

Confirm in poll once you have your role PM!

Rules (mostly stolen from Sprityo I think): If I am unavailable for a phase, the game will be locked, delayed, or handled by Sloonei, depending on the circumstances.
To reiterate, please ask any setup/role questions in PMs.

PMs are out!