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I think cbob has a post that already did thatgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:14 pmSpell out for me every action taken in this plan plz.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:56 pmBut we have backupgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:54 pm I really dislike 'the plan.' It's going to fail without a doubt imo.
It's like aiming two scum-seeking missiles at RDW. If both are redirected, nutella HAS to be scum, and the other scum also must have a redirect.
But we have backupgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:54 pm I really dislike 'the plan.' It's going to fail without a doubt imo.
It's not over yet! The poll is still here
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:29 pmI did bring it up but bob got defensive and we never talked about it againspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:27 pmThis is a pretty interesting point, but I have a couple of questions.
1. Does nutella's crit chance matter to this theory? I noticed you linked the two.
2. It's very possible that there is a mafia misdirection ability that, like Ring's roleblock thing, is hidden behind the scenes. What points you specifically to nutella?
Also, why bring this up now instead of days ago?
Are we talking about the same thing? It's about sig and nutella, not cbob and you.This is a pretty interesting point, but I have a couple of questions.
We only need one reversed doctor to check RDW. Whichever one you protect would work. And if you get redirected, then the doctor can't get redirected.
The plan was to try and use a reverse doctor to kill RDW, right?
clear what?
Please find it. I'd rather not POE if our POE is full of it.Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:02 pmI feel like we were told that it was at some point?
No? But I think most everyone else has.colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:50 pmI mean is there a reason for anybody to not claim actions?
Mafia promote instantly at the beginning of the game. Someone said that yesterday or last night and linked the post.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:15 pmCan mafia upgrade?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:57 pmYes, and also I'm pretty sure he initially claimed the second life was gotten on upgrade, not from the beginning, while ID always had two lives, so even internally his logic doesn't work.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:36 pm RDW, Kenway, and Bob all have horses.
From what I'm gathering, either Kenway and Bob are scum together, RDW is scum with someone, or a LOT of redirecting might have happened.
I was thinking Gwil said something about doctorin yesterday
cbobKylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:38 pm alright so assuming gwilikers and kites are telling the truth about their targets and weren't misdirected, only a horseperson could have killed sprityo last night right? and if kenway is telling the truth about reversing cbob (and also wasn't misdirected) then that leaves kenway and rdw as potential killers, correct? are there any other horses?
I think soKylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:15 pmhm... so is the theory that Dunya was misdirected from Tony and got a different result because of misdirection and then later on the host went back to answer your question and mistakenly gave you the final misdirected results including the misdirection target instead of dunya's actual target?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:56 pmLike I said earlier, I didn't know that. I had to go back and ask for Dunya's results. Which I did around the time I copped Marmot. Otherwise I would have mentioned DDL's towncred earlier.Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pmif you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.
News to me.
For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work
I got Good guy on all checks
Like I said earlier, I didn't know that. I had to go back and ask for Dunya's results. Which I did around the time I copped Marmot. Otherwise I would have mentioned DDL's towncred earlier.Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pmif you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.
News to me.
For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work
I got Good guy on all checks
So it's RDW or redirection?gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:32 amI am a doctor. I protected spirityo. So barring shenanigans only a horseman could have performed the kill.
Do you think Kites is scum?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:48 amSince like the first day Ive thought he could be wildcard scum. Just a hunch really but if I was scum I'd want to fake claim his role. And it's convenient his role didn't work when iron dwarf was on chopping block
I wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:28 amdunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 amLol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring
This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.
TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pmWell whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.
THIS DOESN’T ADD UPspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pmYeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatoryEpignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pmWe are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pmNeither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.
dunya targeted Tony nd was misdirected on n1 and speedchuck says he got a result on DDL n1
[VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine
there’s no reason for him to be alive as he will become a bigger threat to mafia everytime the number of players goes down
I'm trying to pay attention to the three games I'm in. But yes, that involves me coasting and trying to make sense of the discussion when you guys are done yelling at each other.
This is not what you said earliercolonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:54 pmNothing, but i was hesitant to vote ID because I didn't like his fellow voters. I feel better about two of them so the train isn't as scary.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:53 pmWhat does that have to do with Kenway?colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:52 pm Ok I'm feeling better on kites/gwil so I'm leaning towards voting ID actually.
What does that have to do with Kenway?colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:52 pm Ok I'm feeling better on kites/gwil so I'm leaning towards voting ID actually.
So because he promoted, he's towngwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:40 pm We know from my role that Kites used the archer power "Soften 'em Up," and as far as we know, no promoted roles have the same power names as the unpromoted roles.
Explain it to me, because I have no idea what he means.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:38 pmThis is a really good point.Kites wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:26 pm @colonialbob
take a look at the role list and you can see that no two roles have a power with a same name, the same goes for promoted roles. if even one person comes forward and says his/her promoted role has a power with the same name as the pre-promotion role did, I’m not cleared. But that ain’t happening
That's my point.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:31 pmWe haven't had many crit deaths though?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:30 pmMafia. I'll put a percentage on it: 70%colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:26 pm @speedchuck do you think sig is town or mafia? How strongly?
Sure it's easy to read Sig as scum, but I see no barrier to doing so in this game, and he hasn't been accountable for his night actions. I don't buy that he hasn't submitted any. I think scum have a hybrid of their public and private roles or something, and Sig is contributing to the normal nightkill.
But that's all mechanical speculation. And other than that, I still struggle to read him as town.
it doesn’t say that sprityo was killed by anyone