The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:28 pm Loltown

Good game, Alison
it was a game Alison.

and I fucking knew it yet Camilla and Pyx were so sure it swayed me in the end.

I am so sorry to fail you Jack. Srsly never be able to make this up to you.

Pleasure nonetheless.

Loltown

Good game, Alison

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:56 pm pyxxy was mugged in an alley and left for dead. they were town doctor.

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@Jackofhearts2005
@Alison
@pyxxy
@Roxy

Not really surprising, though I hoped for death, having no real idea who the wolf is.

Mmm. Time zones then.

Game over? Night phase? Me not knowing how time works again?

And whoever the wolf is atp is doing a really good job. Thanks for giving us a good chase.

I just....I can see more dishonesty from Camilla than anyone else. Nobody's iso is perfect but if I was to go through and list all the times I thought each remaining player may have scum agenda, the Camilla list would be far and away the longest.

I have a decent reason to townread everybody. Wilgy treats Pyxxy as not a partner. Roxy votes for and shades Porscha even though she has a meta of never bussing. Alison buries Wilgy in a way that draws attention to her and shuts down other misyeets that would help her win a lot. And Camilla (until the very end of this day) was all in on yeeting Jack in a way that looked really honest.

But then on top of that, Alison, Pyxxy and Roxy all have pretty good isos and were treated as not partners by wolves. Lots of little reasons to think they're town, Roxy less so than Pyxxy and Alison but still. Camilla doesn't have that. Her iso isn't squeaky clean and townie. The wolves didn't treat her like she wasn't on their team. I'm just more able to believe that Camilla put on a good performance today as a wolf than one of the others put on a good performance all game.

[VOTE: Camilla] aubergine

If I'm wrong, sorry.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:41 pm what made up my mind was when i realized the best reasons to clear roxy is that she has no gamestate reason to sus me as wolf

but she clearly isnt paying attention to gamestate at all so idk if thats right
this is just a mean thing to say to anyone who has ever played even one game of mafia.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone they have no gamestate?

That's right you are no one.

No one important enough for anyone to care about these types of comments that are wholly unnecessary and toxic.

You like toxic? I don't.

I was however paying enough attention to the gamestate bc I read Scotty's iso in the night it was the reason I *had* to iso you. For him. So straight up - fu

Roxy, Alison.

Alison, Roxy.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt
..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

Oh well.

I’m more worried about being wrong than I am about convincing players to vote with me.

a rand ftw would be hilarious and awesome

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:58 pm Also, the idea that Pyxxy and Porscha were w/w dueling wagons D1 and they just kinda didn't address each other for the most part kinda falls flat. Like it's easier to buy that town Pyxxy didn't have a strong read on Porscha and was like "well whatever I better self preserve" than Pyxxy and Porscha were teammates and they just let this all happen and Pyxxy didn't do anything at all to capitalize on the Porscha bus even though he was literally the determining vote.

And in general, Pyxxy's gimmick and passivity are just....a really shitty strategy if your teammates are Porscha and Wilgy. No offense to the dead wolves but they aren't known to solo carry their team. Pyxxy would be required to have threadpull. Then he gave himself a gimmick that would minimize his threadpull and kept up with it through all three wolves getting wagoned and various points.

Also, the idea that Pyxxy and Porscha were w/w dueling wagons D1 and they just kinda didn't address each other for the most part kinda falls flat. Like it's easier to buy that town Pyxxy didn't have a strong read on Porscha and was like "well whatever I better self preserve" than Pyxxy and Porscha were teammates and they just let this all happen and Pyxxy didn't do anything at all to capitalize on the Porscha bus even though he was literally the determining vote.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 6:05 pm Day 1:
Porscha: Alison, Seanzie, Roxy, Pyxxy, Wilgy
Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu
Scotty: Rondo
Tutuu: Falcon
Missing: Camilla, Prince J

Day 2:
Falcon: Alison, Tutuu, Pyxxy, Rondo
Rondo: Scotty, Wilgy, Falcon, Camilla, Zenon
Tutuu: Roxy
Missing: Prince J

Day 1's Pyxxy wagon has at least one wolf in it. This is just between Scotty/Pyxxy.

Falcon I could be wrong on assuming Scotty T, based on D2 wagons. I just don't think I am.
A solving PoE:
Pyxxy > Scotty > Prince Jack > Falcon

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine if I'm wrong, let me know. I may muster up the effort to change my vote... Probably not actually. Godspeed you apathetic gremlins.

This and the rest of Wilgy's D4 just look really good for Pyxxy is the main thing.

This is at least my third iso of both flipped wolves so I want ya'll to know that you don't deserve a sub this good.

Well, I guess I should read the flipped wolves again? I’ve literally isoed every living player this phase and I’m still pretty unsure.

@Alison

Is your reason for towncoring Pyxxy in his iso? Cause there’s nothing super wolfy and there aRe some good bits but also not anything I think is just locktown.

Like my biggest reasons to townread Pyxxy would be how he was treated by Porcha and Wilgy.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:30 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:27 pm .......@Jackofhearts2005.......sorry for.......second ping..............on re-read.......do you.......recall..............what you think.......I thought.......of roxy.......D1/D2?.......

.......please respond.......without..............re-reading..............if.......you don't mind.......
Idk.

I remember Camilla and Scotty and iirc Alison and maybe Tutuu all suspecting Roxy for bad reasons D2. Nobody really pushed her D1 but Porscha? I don’t specifically remember you doing it but I could just be forgetting or thinking it was Tutuu when it was you.

Why?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:02 am roxy..............town

.......self.......explanatory

.......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... .......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:01 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 3:24 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:02 am roxy..............town

.......self.......explanatory

.......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... .......
It isn't self explanatory to me. Elaborate.
".......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... ......."

was.......about.......you..............bud..............you cleared roxy..............for me

..............when.......you.......wolf..............are.......you..............fearless?

.......bed time

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 1:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 1:08 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 12:53 pm .......to be clear..............second game.......iirc.......with roxy..............and.......previous.......she.......was scum..............but.......towny.......to me.......since.......D1.......
wait so are you saying you still think roxy could be bad?
.......unlikely.......bad.......imo.......
.......I've been.......defending.......roxy..............for a while.......so..............was.......just curious..............if.......you noticed.......

I didn’t even notice just now.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:30 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......
I don’t get it.
.......put another way.......anyone who pushed the SvS idea.......is/was scum?.......it's a hypothesis.......

.......similar to how I pointed out.......that Camilla kept.......wanting Wilgy dead......._only_.......if I flipped RB.......which..........................................

So who did this?

And why would this group be made up of dead townies and one wolf?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

I don’t get it.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:57 pm .......fuck it............................[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine.......

.......wanted.......to see..............how much.......whim..............would be.......expended.......

..............that's.......a passing.......grade.......

Not really seeing the progression on the turnaround but there are some bad Wilgy posts fmpov that Pyxxy interacts with so it’s not insane that the progression exists and is just unstated.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:55 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:48 pm
Porscha: Alison, Seanzie, Roxy, Pyxxy, Wilgy
Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu
Scotty: Rondo
Tutuu: Falcon
Missing: Camilla, Prince J

Falcon: Alison, Tutuu, Pyxxy, Rondo
Rondo: Scotty, Wilgy, Falcon, Camilla, Zenon
Tutuu: Roxy
Missing: Prince J

Falcon: Tutuu, Alison, Scotty, Jack, Pyxxy, Camilla
Pyxxy: DrWilgy, Falcon
D1 Pyxxy/Scotty needs to be resolved. That wagon isn't pure, from there we can sort between Rondo/Falcon wagons D2.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
.......nah.......

.......I reject..............today being..............me vs scotty.......

..............that's.......a.......lazy solve..............given..............who.......we've wagoned.......

.......you're.......parroting..............Prince Jack's.......entrance + summary..............and.......I'm..............surprised.......you.......didn't.......note.......as.......such.......
Do you disagree with arguing to solve the shitty wagons? Again, you not wanting to solve Scotty is still baffling to me and makes me think you are only trying to extend your own lifespan by buddying up to them.
.......I.......think..............he's town.......that's.......the whole.......thought.......

.......pretty.......clear..............he's still.......voting.......me.......

This whole series of interactions doesn’t look teamed.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:48 pm
Porscha: Alison, Seanzie, Roxy, Pyxxy, Wilgy
Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu
Scotty: Rondo
Tutuu: Falcon
Missing: Camilla, Prince J

Falcon: Alison, Tutuu, Pyxxy, Rondo
Rondo: Scotty, Wilgy, Falcon, Camilla, Zenon
Tutuu: Roxy
Missing: Prince J

Falcon: Tutuu, Alison, Scotty, Jack, Pyxxy, Camilla
Pyxxy: DrWilgy, Falcon
D1 Pyxxy/Scotty needs to be resolved. That wagon isn't pure, from there we can sort between Rondo/Falcon wagons D2.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
.......nah.......

.......I reject..............today being..............me vs scotty.......

..............that's.......a.......lazy solve..............given..............who.......we've wagoned.......

.......you're.......parroting..............Prince Jack's.......entrance + summary..............and.......I'm..............surprised.......you.......didn't.......note.......as.......such.......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:37 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 6:18 pm ..............scotty.......biggest.......help..............for me..............could.......you.......help solve.......roxy?.......

.......bc.......this post.......
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 3:09 pm Wow after the catch up I am wondering if Pyxxy and Scotty are both town and now just resolved to being elimmed as per the normalization of this mind/group think.

So we elim Scotty and he is town then we go for Pyxxy bc hey it is "optimal" and Pyxxy comes up town. Down we are down to lose.

falcon givng up and telling people to solve like he is town to get a head start is a bit odd. Leaving no legacy or reads just an idaf about the town legacy. It makes me want to vote them bc this feels different from falcon

I liked Scotty looking into Alison and Camilla bc I have had a niggling feeling about a baddie team consisting of two high posters and one lhf.

Tutuu saying should would lose to Alison and Camilla as mafia is a bit sad for the town that she would ride in the back seat of that car going over a cliff bc hey it's ok to lose to them.

Nah.

I'm going to continue to look and frankly idc care if no one pays attention but I don't just roll over bc certain players could be bad and I cba'ed to give a good care for the towns sake. I will look at everyone and everything.
.......we have.......potential.......here.......

..............@DrWilgy.......would also.......take.......your thoughts..............on.......this.......roxy.......quote.......
I don't really take anything from it. Why?
.......I'm.......trying..............to drag.......opinions.......from you.....................

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 pm Probably one in Scotty, Zenon, Tutuu, Pyxxy.
Probably one in Rondo, Falcon.
Probably just Rondo because I don't see wolf Falcon.

Did Porscha have any resistance towards voting Pyxxy?

Ho well. Y'all sort it for me...

Good night.
.......you're.......0 for 4..............and.......if.......scotty and I.......are both town..............you'll be..............0 for 6.......

..............sorry.......if..............this is..............an.......annoying.......way..............to.......prod you..............it's.......a.......D2..............reads list.......after all.......

.......and you.......may.......have.......planned..............to.......be more.......active.......today..............I just..............miss u..............:'(.......

Pyxxy D2 and D3 (not looking at Porscha and Wilgy reactions to Pyxxy, just Pyxxy’s iso) isn’t really clearing either.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:09 pm .......what's RT mean.......

Reverse track

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:05 pm Pro mafia tip. Gradually swap all your scumreads at F5 so you can honestly say “I had the solve.”
If you're the last wolf then I am the greatest mafia player in the world and Alison, Pyxxy, and Roxy are dwarfs to my greatness and I only bowed down to peer pressure.

If Roxy is the last wolf then I am the greatest mafia player in the world as my tunnel was a RT that I didn't believe in and Roxy coasting failed my RT and outed her.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 am .......summary.......instead.......of.......clogging.......with quotes.......

.......annoyed.......with.......rondo.......chop..............no.......need..............
.......zenon............................................................................................................................ ..rip.......
.......agree with.......camilla.......tutuu.......town.......
.......agree with.......nka.......PR.......hunt.......

.......scotty.......falcon.......team.......saves.......porscha.......imo.....................scotty.......manages.......something.......anything.......eod D1?.......
.......does.......scotty.......tr.......zenon.......this.......hard.......only.......to.....................nk? - https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 4#p1050784
...................................the way.......falcon..............breaks meta..............≠..............the way..............Porscha..............breaks meta.......

.......scotty town.......imo.......or w/e.......tbtbtbwbwwwwwbwbbbwttttbtbttbwbwbtbtbtwbtb.......ya feel.......

.....................I've...................................absolutely.......coasted.......but.......I've.......also.......slept.......14hours.......in the last.......three days.......(own volition).......

..............c'est la vie..............

...................................lede me, readmour.......
.......my.......greatest.......defense.......remains.....................as scum..............if.......I.......serious.......let.......that.......eod D1.......manifest............................tutuu.......tell them..............my scum range.......again.......pls and ty.......

..............when wolfing.......with.......Porsch-dawg..............I..............lolcatted..............I would.......never.......repeat that..............consecutive..............ergo..............eod D1.......wagons.......would.......never.......happen............................fin.......
.......for.......legal.......reasons............................pyxxy's.......ego.......is.......involved.......here.......

.......wilgy.......been.......town.......to.......me.......for.....................a.......while.......now.......

so............................by.......logical.......inference.......wouldn't.......vote.......today.......scotty, tutuu, wilgy..............likely.......also.......not vote.......roxy.......

.......fading.......ttyl

Not sure where this Wilgy “town for awhile” read came from. Did I like miss it?

Pro mafia tip. Gradually swap all your scumreads at F5 so you can honestly say “I had the solve.”

Pyxxy’s D1 is like…a D1 with an annoying gimmick that exists.

Pyxxy gives some ppl (Tutuu and Neon or maybe just Tutuu) shit for suspecting him over Porscha and buzzer votes to break the tie and kill Porcha at eod over…himself.

Pretty meh tbh. Like I don’t get a lot out of Pyxxy D1 iso by itself.

Unless I am lol

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:54 pm Is it more +EV to yeet Camilla today on the off chance Roxy claims doc tomorrow?

I wanna win at F5 but I’m feeling like the info isn’t there.
if that happens and someone ccs the doc claim tomorrow its a shitshow

Nah.

Cause I’m not the doctor so Roxy+Alison/Pyxxy doc claim clears me.

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:53 pm Kinda thinking Jack/Alison/Pyxxy is at “one in Roxy/Camilla” and Roxy is at “one in Camilla/Alison” and Camilla is at “one in Jack/Roxy.”

Which like…is really good if there’s a wolf in Camilla/Roxy and really bad if there’s not.
I really doubt Alison is a wolf and I also doubt that she'd be misreading Pyxxy this badly, tbh.

Saaaaame.

And I have lots of good reasons to townread Pyxxy like my entire Wilgy case being centered around Pyxxy being town (isoing him anyway).

Is it more +EV to yeet Camilla today on the off chance Roxy claims doc tomorrow?

I wanna win at F5 but I’m feeling like the info isn’t there.

Kinda thinking Jack/Alison/Pyxxy is at “one in Roxy/Camilla” and Roxy is at “one in Camilla/Alison” and Camilla is at “one in Jack/Roxy.”

Which like…is really good if there’s a wolf in Camilla/Roxy and really bad if there’s not.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:29 pm ..............it's..............not..............town.....................pyxxy..............

if..............I'm..............not..............a.......wagon.....................for..............no..............reason..............ah.....................well

Lul

Oh right. I haven’t been outside in awhile.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:02 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:48 pm ~Prince J~ - Just sad that they were name called and voted for before they had even posted. Are they bad? Idk bc they probs won't be back for anyone to try and get a feel for their rand this game.

Alison - agreed to disagree with what you state. <3

Camilla - does not seem as engaged as she was in the beginning of splints and I's mountainous game and her posts seem to mostly just be agreeable which always sends my eyebrow on an arch. She has to be excused until D 2 as she was sick and busy today but tbh I could vote here with zero qualms.

DrWilgy - where are you? You be extra quiet this game not many jokes no fun yet only 3 posts. miss your style this game c'mon and play.

falcon45ca - so far so good.

Porscha - took heat and votes but no defense really given. Seems to have basically given up. Very pingy. Could vote here with no prob.

pyxxy - Poss you tried to pocket me but you *are* often mis-elimmed. Before I can vote for you srsly I am gonna need a reason why besides using meta. But I am waiting for you to add some actual substance to the game to better gauge you.

RondoDimBuckle - not real sure about you but I have the feeling you are a bored townie. I could be wrong but I think I will wait and watch.

Scotty - your early questions to me seemed like quite a stretch as we have played more than once and you have hosted me as a player. Really pinged me but I am hoping for better from you.

Seanzie - also so far so good.

tutuu - Not understanding your game state at all this go round. You are alternating between joking and game play - normal - except it does not *feel* normal. It feels more sarcastic from you than what I am used to seeing. Digging your rainbows though not that I agree with your reads but you do seem to be trying. Are you trying in the town's best interest? That remains to be seen. Would I voteyou today? Probs not.

Zenon - Idk, idk,idk. Every since your last win as Mafia I have been awestruck by you. But then splints and I have hosted you and you were town. You game style does not change as much as others feel it does which makes it very hard for me to read you. Right now I am fence sitting where you are concerned. A few of your posts threw up red flags and others not so much. Watch/Wait? Could you really be this bored with Tutuu around to keep you company in the thread, idk. Gives me pause.
...................................

*resumes hemming a pair of pants for a particular bird with the word "scum" on the back in the Juicy Couture font*

What does this mean?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:38 pm oh no wait roxy might be clear

did anyone verify that "never busses" claim

Didn’t. Pinged hee to do so but she hasn’t been around.

Is it bad that Roxy is my gth guess for the wolf and the doctor?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm if roxy is wolf then from her pov i am doc

pyxxy didnt claim doc when asked at eod1, cam and jack are obviously not doc (not gonna keep up the pretense that jack could be atp)

so i am the worst person to shade today for w roxy as she has to immediately kill me, make herself look dumb + cant exe the person shes been shading

I could so be the doctor.

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:00 pm I've already said that the bulk of my case on Jack boils down to his treatment of Wilgy's slot where there was a drastic pivot the moment that it was clear that Wilgy would always go over which feels unnatural as fuck.

I was slightly suspicious of J dipping but that's not why I want Jack dead today.

But this didn’t actually happen.

You keep saying I had a strong townread on Wilgy and then I suddenly had him lock mafia after he was dead in the water.

But that’s not what happened. I had a slight townread on Wilgy based on shit I kept to myself. I made no real argument that Wilgy was town. I spent no time defending Wilgy against pressure or doing anything to try to yeet alternatives to him or make anyone townread him or ignore him. I saw his posts D4 and I thought they didn’t make sense. And then I asked him about those posts and his answers didn’t really address my concerns. I then started coming up with townreads on Wilgy alternatives like Roxy, Scotty and Pyxxy. I then looked at Wilgy’s entire iso again based off the idea that Porscha was a wolf and that Scotty/Pyxxy were both town and found that Wilgy looked really bad based on that. His Porscha interaction barely existed. He was obsessed with Pyxxy. Yet his reasoning for seeing wolf Pyxxy or exactly one wolf in Pyxxy/Scotty didn’t really exist. When asked straight up for that reasoning, he changed his stated opinion instead of providing the reasoning I asked him for. Then, I looked at the entire poe and said that the most likely team in it was Wilgy/Camilla. I looked for any worlds where Wilgy could be town and came up empty on wolfteams without Wilgy. Then I voted for Wilgy.

You keep framing this as an opportunistic flip from strong townread to strong wolfread based on knowing Wilgy would die. And that’s totally a wolfy thing. Flipping a strong townread to a strong wolfread without providing any reasoning is wolfy. But like…I didn’t do that. You gotta see that I didn’t do that.

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:57 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:53 am @Camilla hypothetical: we exe jack, he flips town

Your next move is?
Re-eval the shit out of Pyxxy/Roxy as in this world then it's someone in that pairing as I have you basically nigh-IC at this point.

Most likely Roxy as she doesn't really have the same levels of non-W/W interactions as Pyxxy does and a lot of the things I'm TR'ing her for such as the needless suspicion on you and her town entitlement isn't impossible to fake.
Could you do those things now? Just for fun?
Right, then why would W!Roxy shade Alison rn when she could just coast on this thunderdome if she's a wolf?

Can you please stop answering my questions and requests with challenges?

I don’t know who the wolf is. If I knew who the wolf is, I wouldn’t bother asking you to evaluate other players.

I’m not asking you to vote X instead of me. I’m asking you to keep trying to find the wolf.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:57 am Okay, I finished the Roxy iso.

D1, Roxy helps yeet Porscha, which goes against her stated wolf meta. She’s consistently uncharitable towards Porscha but in the end, chooses to tie wagons and ping people off wagon instead of burying Porscha. Maybe she’s a townie who cares about wagonomics. Maybe she’s a wolf who didn’t want to be seen as bussing too hard to the point where she has tmi.

D2-5, Roxy has been absent or pushed players for either their D1 actions or for pushing her. All of these players except Camilla have flipped town.

There is no smoking gun, here. I can read it as a wolf coasting off credit. I can read it as a townie really believing what she’s saying.

The biggest reason to townread Roxy is if she truly has a meta of never bussing as a wolf, she bucked it hardcore and without a partner a la Alison or Mac who would coach her on how dangerous that would be. Ergo she didn’t do that. Ergo she’s town.

The biggest reason to wolfread Roxy is just that she hasn’t been productive D2-5 and hasn’t done anything those days that I can’t rule out as coming from a wolf.

It’s not ideal. I would really like to come out of one of these isos with an “aha! This is the wolf.”

For the record, Camilla, this is an example of the kind of thing w!Jack doesn’t want to do at F5. Cause it’s too weak to really push for a Roxy misyeet tomorrow. I’ve shown my hand early. The die is cast. Wolf Jack would rather not say this and then give a less charitable summary tomorrow that would actually help get a Roxy misyeet. I can’t go back and revise a full iso when nothing has changed.

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:53 am @Camilla hypothetical: we exe jack, he flips town

Your next move is?
Re-eval the shit out of Pyxxy/Roxy as in this world then it's someone in that pairing as I have you basically nigh-IC at this point.

Most likely Roxy as she doesn't really have the same levels of non-W/W interactions as Pyxxy does and a lot of the things I'm TR'ing her for such as the needless suspicion on you and her town entitlement isn't impossible to fake.

Could you do those things now? Just for fun?

Okay, I finished the Roxy iso.

D1, Roxy helps yeet Porscha, which goes against her stated wolf meta. She’s consistently uncharitable towards Porscha but in the end, chooses to tie wagons and ping people off wagon instead of burying Porscha. Maybe she’s a townie who cares about wagonomics. Maybe she’s a wolf who didn’t want to be seen as bussing too hard to the point where she has tmi.

D2-5, Roxy has been absent or pushed players for either their D1 actions or for pushing her. All of these players except Camilla have flipped town.

There is no smoking gun, here. I can read it as a wolf coasting off credit. I can read it as a townie really believing what she’s saying.

The biggest reason to townread Roxy is if she truly has a meta of never bussing as a wolf, she bucked it hardcore and without a partner a la Alison or Mac who would coach her on how dangerous that would be. Ergo she didn’t do that. Ergo she’s town.

The biggest reason to wolfread Roxy is just that she hasn’t been productive D2-5 and hasn’t done anything those days that I can’t rule out as coming from a wolf.

It’s not ideal. I would really like to come out of one of these isos with an “aha! This is the wolf.”

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:42 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:41 am .......I'm being lazy.......with no case.......but.......if we're wrong here..............I'm sussing roxy.......

..............as Alison said..............no guarantees..............if we're wrong.......I try hard..............do not fear.......about me..............sleepwalking.......

.......but.......slank cover.......to the max.......tbh.......and today..............would theoretically.......be..............letting town..............tear itself apart.......
...at this point it makes me wonder why the fuck am I still trying to play this game when this shit's just unwinnable.

It’s not!

Look at me like I’m the old spice guy. Answer what I’m saying. That’s the only path forward.

I don’t actually think that’s a pocket attempt even if Roxy is a wolf I’m js. It’s very flattering.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:37 am.......*outing

Maybe that’s my problem

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:40 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:04 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:57 pm Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play
Prince J

Prince J

Prince J
Unleash your secret killer move !

Just an FYi: When I read your posts the voice in my head is that of Macho Man Randy Savage

If (and this is a very big if) Roxy is the wolf and this is her trying to pocket me and not just a thing she’s actually saying, this is the chef’s kiss of all pocket attempts.

Macho Man Randy Savage is one of the most iconic wrestlers of all time on the mic and he’s often contrasted favorably with the likes of Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior, the other two huge faces at the time who as it turns out are/were garbage human beings.

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