The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:53 pm “Ejected.” Not lynched.

Still got it [mention]nutella[/mention]

Actually, one of my asterisks used to be *unless JaggedJimmyJay is involved.

Btw I didn’t react to Nanook’s fake peek because it’s Nanook.

I would have let him claim my role with no external reaction.

Doesn’t count for lots of reasons obviously.

Great job bringing it home, townies. I townread Michelle right after I died but couldn’t say so.

Very impressed Nutella managed to fool me, even if I had only read half of her posts. Well done.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:43 pm We lynched Jack.

Jay gets an error.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:50 pm Just had my ass handed to me in Worms by my daughter who relies on rare homing weapons.

Which Worms are you playing, Epi?

Doesn't count. Votes were for SVS.

The main reason I have to associate LC with Michelle is his pretty quick turn around on her D1.

Or POE.

In case it's unclear, I suspect Michelle. She's my top scumread after reading the first 6 or so pages and the last 5 or so pages.

I'm trying to look for reasons to townread her because she's not a player with a very forceful personality and she is a player I have correctly found as town before when others suspected her. I view one of my town responsibilities to be finding townies who might get mislynched. If I do nothing, Michelle is very likely the lynch. It's my responsibility to make sure she's not town and to defend her if she is.

Don't mistake this process as "Jack is going back and forth on his Michelle read."

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:37 am Grats guys, you are doing again the same thing you did in the previous game with 3 villagers in a row. Be proud of it.
I get now why they gave up, you are too selfish to accept you are wrong.

Let's see my wagon:
Epi said he will give 33% in this game, he gives 5%. Ugly way of playing no matter AI.

Nanook was just sheeping one or another, i don't understand this. If he thinks his red peek solves the game he is plain wrong because mafia is a team and in this game distancing is the key. Unless everyone talks in the game. But you all are ok with players who are answering with one word at questions and admire this nonsense. If they are mafia, you have zero content to work with.

Jay is an easy poster so high activity is not AI and he's imagining tests and PoEs. Town had bad results from his contribution in the games we played together. I don't trust him no matter AI. He is a genius mafia, good for him. Idk why, but I was town reading him when he subbed in the game. Maybe because he had a nice energy. I am not sure about this. His so called test is a trap and he choose to pick up my answer to push me.
Logic, any mafia would say no. I said yes. So what? And then he has like a revelation and said I am guilty. Lame

Nutella pretends to know to read me but she can't. Or she don't want to. We talked too much already.

At least one of this 4 is wolf, imo.
But I may be wrong.
If every single one is villager, then this town have a problem and we will loose this game.

I don't want to post more, I am tired to defend myself and I am not playing for this. My vote stays on Jack, his approach was bad. His reads looked fabricated and Svs's push on me in day 1 was a tunnel a villager should not make.

I may not come back until Eod not because I give up but because this game is depressing.

Good bye.

Dislike this post as well. Townies can and do give up but bugging out for half the day when you're top wagon is more antispew than town frustration on average calculation.

Wording reads on Michelle are less solid than your average player because of english not being her first language but she talks a lot about "you" as in the town as in a group of players she isn't part of.

Maybe I'm grasping at straws. I'm just seeing a lot of small bad things with Michelle's posts and not a lot of good things.

I'm also doing that thing I do in every game where I want to townread players (ie just Michelle actually) for tilting at Jack windmills but I have to remind myself that wolves do this all the time. Like Epi last game. Wolves are perfectly happy to waste time pushing wagons that will never turn into lynches and will never result in "you pushed on this townie" accusations. Michelle does tend to suspect me incorrectly sometimes as town but her read on me is very static. "Jack's reads as of page five do not contain any real scumreads. Therefore, he is bad." But I did suspect players. I explained why I suspected them and then explained why I stopped suspecting them. Having no scumreads is a cozy place for a wolf to stay for a bit but not on their opening day. I don't feel like that's a very honest read, a read town Michelle hangs onto so hard.

Preapplication

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:10 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:33 am
This is baseball. People don't wear makeup like that. Go to a football game.

S'not makeup. It's like the darkness inside my soul.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
I noticed this as well.
Jesus fucking Christ
Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.
umm.. what means socialist for you?
Eating rich people, mostly.
This is an incomplete view I'm affraid

Also, banging shoes on things.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
I noticed this as well.
Jesus fucking Christ
Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.
umm.. what means socialist for you?

Eating rich people, mostly.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
I noticed this as well.
Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.
See, that's why my vote stays. Because you don't know what to do. You are not a bad push, you put the worst reads after you read the first 4 pages and didn't reevaluate. This is impossible.

What makes you think I'm done evaluating? I went to bed and now I'm at work.

I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pmI was convinced he is lying.
Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Sometimes wolves just lie. RIP Benson.

rollsafe.jpg

TMI town role cop isn't in the game.

Does that even match with Nanook's claim?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:20 pm I'm not concerned that you're attacking Jack. He could be bad. I'm concerned that your method of doing so is baseless garbage.
I am not deflecting, I see you defending Jack. I see Jack having most probably TMI and presenting infos he shouldn't know.
Idk how to talk better. Is that a good reason to hung me?
I don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
Explain your point, mayne i didn't get it.

If I'm scum and I have TMI that there are two roles instead of 1, it would mean the mafia has exactly the roleblocker and we're in exactly one of two setups out of a possible six.

Or I just didn't notice there was an extra vanilla town role on the matrix because I didn't look at it that closely.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:06 pm What if Nut is scum with Jack?
Oh I wish

We'd get to pretend fight and everything!

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:17 pm Looking better at Jack's reads without scum reads it's like a scum claim

[VOTE: Jack/Svs] aubergine

Lol but I'm unlynchable.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:36 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:13 pm Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:36 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:30 am I have a couple of mechanics questions. I have not played very many games with a matrix like this one has, and I am not 100% on the terminology.

What is a "strongman"? And a "Role Doc", that is a role checker, right?
Ok, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p

A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.
A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy
How strongly do you believe in this suspicion?
Enough to vote

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Also not my favorite.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:29 pm I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:38 am if I were scum I wouldn't like to kill him personally. But i would let the NK for my scumpartener because I have yet little knowledge about everyone here.
On the other hand, him as veteran player is fear killed by every single player including you. Every sane mafia kills M+7 if he rands villager.

Your analysis is so wifom-y that it gives me goosebumbs.
Let's review this doozy.

Why not? You're one of only two people here that doesn't have a history with MP to hinder your willingness to murder him.

Okay sure.

No he isn't. MP is a respected mafia talent, but sometimes folks ignore that to make a game more fun. I refused to kill Epignosis in the GOC despite him being a threat to me. This is starting to look like justification instead of conjecture.

No I don't. There is no player in this game I am less likely to kill than MP. That's why I started this course of hunting. You turning it on me like this is a defense mechanism, not an accusation.

More justification, not conjecture.

I don't believe you. Bad kill choice.

Yeah, it is basically like "I wouldn't kill MP except maybe I would."

Complaining about WIFOM while saying all that is pretty yuck.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:44 am Jack's reasons for trusting my slot are dubious.

Who cares? I'm obvious town and will be obvious town all game. I'm only a quarter of the way through the thread. Maybe my read will change but if it doesn't, you can be happy about it.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
For me, she seems to be trying too hard.
this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.

Several players have expressed similar things to this MP7 post. I dig the idea but I kinda disagree.

Like I can see the potential town perspective of what Michelle's saying. Like in a world where JaggedDys and Michelle are both town, JaggedDys doesn't know Michelle is town so "You say 'seems' because I'm town" doesn't really make sense as a reason JaggedDys isn't town.

I'd have worded it like "'Seems' looks like you want to shade me but you can't come up with a concrete reason to do so."

I view the wording as NAI.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:13 pm Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:36 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:30 am I have a couple of mechanics questions. I have not played very many games with a matrix like this one has, and I am not 100% on the terminology.

What is a "strongman"? And a "Role Doc", that is a role checker, right?
Ok, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p

A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.
A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy

Not really my favorite Michelle post.

I'm reserving a full Michelle read because I like the idea of her being a freebee read like Nutella and I think I'm up to a 4 game correctly reading her streak and even my last game I incorrectly read her I was like "I townread everyone but I guess I townread Michelle least" and she was town so that's half a correct read and I don't want to bust my streak.

But yeah, not really my favorite Michelle post.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:12 pm I need to steal a page out of Dyslexicon's playbook.

Our AC is fixed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum

Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.
I've already claimed a PR, so

Move me up daddy

Yeah, my stupid reason for townreading you was that I thought you were hinting a power role ("I'm not getting lynched today") but I didn't want to say that out loud and get you killed if it wasn't known. Haven't gotten to the part where you outright claimed yet.

I'm at the top of page 5 and going to bed.

Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum

Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:01 pm I don't want you to take offense, but if I knew nothing about baseball, your explanation about the designated hitter would only confuse me more. American League? What is that? Are all the teams American? etc. Michelle's reaction to your explanation sounded like, "Okay, we can check off interacting with one another" to me.

This is actually a pretty fair read. It's wrong and he decides it's wrong before he even gives this but this does feel like a real thought from Epi.

Shit. I need scumreads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:12 am Nut, SVS, Mac and Epi are all very likely to be town imo. If I'm wrong on Michelle idfk, but I don't feel like I am.

LC's post was bad and MP hasn't posted which is also bad. So it's Michelle plus one of LC and MP. I'm good a mafia sometimes, you've seen it. And if I'm not, blame my teammate Epi.

This feels pretty town tbh. Like town Dizzy in GoC mixed it up and was confident in their reads. Feels like that.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:09 am Some things:
I didn't read Mac's post about Epi/me, but if his point is that we didn't interact then that's a bit seeelly and random. But it's ok, cause I think Mac is town. I also think he would think of me as "different". Same goes for Nut. Nobody learns my meta rip.

Wolf Dys maybe doesn't say this about two townies. Maybe they do. Idk. Seems like you should be able to extract something from this post.

Yeah, you can take town Nutella to the bank. You're welcome.

Slight townread on Nanook. It's for a stupid reason that I'm not going to tell you but I'm gonna hold onto the read until I have reason not to.

As of page 2, I have a townread on Nutella and would not be at all surprised if Diz (now Jay iirc) and/or Epi were scum.

That probably means that Michelle isn't scum but it's not by virtue of anything she's said.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:02 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:58 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:55 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
For me, she seems to be trying too hard.
this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
No not at all. That's how you seem to me. What do you think of what I said, as opposed to how I said it?
You said I try hard. You didn't speculate about my AI. I think you avoid the point here.
My impression coming into Day 1 was that S~V~S and Michelle were teammates.

So this is a neat exchange. I no longer have that impression.

I kinda don't believe this but it's not like I can actually read Epi for shit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine
Did Epi get baited?
Masterfully. And several times since his preteen years.

Gross.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:45 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:53 pm Still haven't read, but I think S~V~S would kill MP.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:32 am Jackofhearts2005 is pinch-hitting for SVS.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:34 am Lolololol I'm literally unlynchable. Nice try, Epi.

Wassup, Nutella? Who is bad?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:40 am RIP Elvis, my favorite ball player.

Spoiler: show

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are you sure adrian beltre isn't your favorite?

I like the two of them together. Elvis has other funny stuff going on without Andrian, though.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:59 pm Boooo Designated Hitter

The designated hitter makes for a more exciting game. Removing the worst batter on a team and adding someone who only bats is a good thing.

RIP Elvis, my favorite ball player.

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Lolololol I'm literally unlynchable. Nice try, Epi.

Lemme check to see who my teamates are first.

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