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- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Mafia is obvious. 5 players not voting like I say. Game is ez
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Mac claiming mafia is…a thing.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:45 pm
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- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:42 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Oh thank Quetzalcoatl
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:41 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Somehow*
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:41 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
If the Dennis wagon is a joke, I’ll just keep preparing potatoes for the fam but if it’s for real, could somebody let me know so I can scream until I lose my voice while fixing potatoes because Tutuu just threw half assed cases at each townie in a row until one somebody convinced ppl Dennis is more wolfy than Creature?
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:31 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Pretty sure the only thing that happens is I get an aneurism.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:30 pm [VOTE: dennis] aubergine
let's see what happens tbh
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:30 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
I counted up my posts forgetting the post cap lifted an hour before eod.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:47 pm To be clear about consequences of going over cap:
First day you go over cap before an hour to end of day: You will not draw a card the following night.
Second day you go over cap before an hour to end of day: Your vote will not be counted the following day.
Third day you go over cap before an hour to end of day: Modkill.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Tbh, I don’t have much of a read on you and your place as town or scum is like dependent on if a read. Sorry. I know that’s not really fair to you but on the plus side, it means I’m not voting you for the next 3 days at least and the game probably just ends before then.Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:11 pmTbf if jack threw shade at me earlier I never saw it so to me i think hes just not paying attention? I'd be surprised if jack was actually trying to make me look bad when i was one of his biggest defenders before cuz like that's just counter intuitive for a wolf jack to do lolSabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:06 pmMac asked her to.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:05 pm Lol why is Porscha voting Sig? She was scumreading Creature. Bad look without actually looking at it.
Jack are you capable of having real reads.
You keep sussing me and wilgs and Porscha, who all followed Mac lead, But never sus Mac.
@MacDougall do you see this
Anyway sabi i feel like you're implying something but not uh, not saying it
Spoiler: show
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:11 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
I just independently townread Mac so it’s easier to believe he’s wrong whereas if you and Wilgy vote wrong, it’s easy to believe it’s cause you’re scum.
If I’m wrong on a townread, though, it’s probably Mac.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:08 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
I have lots of real reads.
At the risk of undermining my super real and important game winning reads, here’s a joke.
Lylo is super easy. Anyone who agrees with me is town and anyone who doesn’t is scum.
At the risk of undermining my super real and important game winning reads, here’s a joke.
Lylo is super easy. Anyone who agrees with me is town and anyone who doesn’t is scum.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:05 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Lol why is Porscha voting Sig? She was scumreading Creature. Bad look without actually looking at it.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:59 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
If Sabi is actually town, Creature wagon is pure.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:55 pm The chances of mafia not currently voting Creature are too damn low.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:59 pm
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- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:44 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Switch your entire poe from wolves to townies challenge?
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm
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For credit, I actually think Sig is just flat town. Tutuu is raising her voice to try to get the win right here and now, not just waste the day. I’ll probably be dead or the game will be lost before that matters.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:19 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Creature/Tutuu/Sabi/Wilgy/???
If we yeet through those four without hitting the zealot, Sig is a decent last wolf. If we hit the zealot going through those four, Sig is spewed town and the last wolf is Porscha (“Oh thank mod we’re finally yeeting Creature now I’m gonna leave without voting” could be a mistake or a wolf move) or maybe Mac, who looks town except he keeps having EOD read shifts to vote the wrong players.
That’s my legacy. Gl
If we yeet through those four without hitting the zealot, Sig is a decent last wolf. If we hit the zealot going through those four, Sig is spewed town and the last wolf is Porscha (“Oh thank mod we’re finally yeeting Creature now I’m gonna leave without voting” could be a mistake or a wolf move) or maybe Mac, who looks town except he keeps having EOD read shifts to vote the wrong players.
That’s my legacy. Gl
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:14 pm
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- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:12 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
It’s possible lylo given the cards and the zealot. Four members of the poe (Wilgy, Tutuu, Creature, Sabi) have voted Sig or floated a vote for Sig.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:29 pmI've read all of his posts. They aren't great but they are better than sigs, and that Jack post pleading with us to vote out creature and tutuu over sig made my fucking skin crawl. Jack suddenly caring again and trying to be pushy is just making me think he's flipped back to hard wolfsiding probably to end the game.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:20 pm mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig
There’s no case against Sig and the case of “he’s doing fuck all” applies to a lot of players. That doesn’t make Sig town but it doesn’t make sense for 3-4 wolves to pile onto Sig if Sig is a goon. They’d just pile onto Creature or Tutuu. Instead, Wilgy shifts his POE from Tutuu/Sig to Creature/Sig to avoid voting anyone but Sig and Sabi shades the hell out of me for pushing Creature.
Open your eyes, man.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:05 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
In contention and never came close to being voted off EOD at all.Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:30 pm In hindsight Jack's argument that Creature is not the zealot due to not having been bussed is so awful. Like I did say that Creature's been in contention for forever.
Sig has been in contention approximately never, and it reached its zenith when I convinced Seanzie to vote sig with me and probably somebody else in Mac/SPF.
I stand by my statement about voting Sig over Creature for players in the POE being a scum claim.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:20 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
The higher percentage of Sig voters that are wolves or potentially wolves also points to Sig being more likely to be the Zealot if all wagons are wolves and we should try to yeet nonzealot wolves first if at all possible.
Voting Sig is literally outting right now and if either of @Sabiplz or @DrWilgy end the day voting for Sig, I will consider that to be a hard scumclaim. Even if Sig is a wolf. Even if Sig is not the zealot.
We do not have the wiggle room to play sloppy and if either of you is town, you need to not only vote for the correct player so we can yeet that player but also so that you don't give wolves cover to just vote whoever with weak reasoning by doing that yourself.
Wolves have never actually attempted to bus Creature. If Creature is a wolf (and he's always a wolf), he's not the Zealot.
Voting Sig is literally outting right now and if either of @Sabiplz or @DrWilgy end the day voting for Sig, I will consider that to be a hard scumclaim. Even if Sig is a wolf. Even if Sig is not the zealot.
We do not have the wiggle room to play sloppy and if either of you is town, you need to not only vote for the correct player so we can yeet that player but also so that you don't give wolves cover to just vote whoever with weak reasoning by doing that yourself.
Nobody EoD1 and EoD2. Sabi, Wilgy, Falcon voted there D3 while Roxy had an overwhelming 7 votes. SPF, Seanzie and I have all voted Creature at some point and I'm sure I'm missing some other temporary votes there.
Wolves have never actually attempted to bus Creature. If Creature is a wolf (and he's always a wolf), he's not the Zealot.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:08 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:43 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
I don't want to vote out fingersplints voters.
Of day 1 Alison voters Sig is the most likely hit.
Sig is not towny.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:49 pm The ... solve I am getting to looks less and less likely to have Tutuu in it hmmm.
I don't think Sig and Tutuu are partners. I also am not sure Wilgy and Tutuu make sense as partners.
Can Seanzie be this towny as mafia? Not Bereft?
Creature
Seanzie
Falcon
Sig
Dennis?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:14 pmI haven't really come up with any specific. I just think through process of elimination, wagonomics and general production/appearance he's the least likely town player atm alongside Creature.
Creature I kinda have a more relevant read on in the sense that I think Creature's curve has been starting townier and getting slowly scummier which is like the complete inverse of his usual town curve. He doesn't have Creature tinfoil. Is tolerant of being pushed in a weird way. Keeps making shotgun votes and reads. Its like as mafia he just doesn't have the energy or care factor to try to look town.
^The case on Sig. Emphasis mine. It's literally just POE.
Dennis and Sabi, surely you can understand why I think it is a better move to yeet Creature in this scenario, who had a stronger case made on him on D1 than this case on Sig now.
Maybe they're both wolves and it doesn't fucking matter. But why roll the dice on maybes when we've got a sure thing?
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:02 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Jack: We should yeet players that are definately wolves instead of players that are just in the POE.
Sabi: OMG maybe Jack is a wolf. So odd. Such a weird perspective.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:01 pm
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It's a read where it's lylo and there are two obvious wolves with 3 votes each and there's a player in the POE who could be a wolf or could be town with 5 votes and POE players going "Oh, well I'm just sheeping towncore when I don't vote for either of the obvious wolves."Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:56 pmDid you not see I was sheeping Mac on to sig way before wiggles and tutuu joined.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:54 pm Also, the chance of both Sabi and Wilgy being town is pretty freaking low so both of them on Sig with Tutuu is another red flag. Sorry to any townies in Sabi and Wilgy but it is what it is.
What kinda read is this???
That would freak you the fuck out in my shoes. Don't act like you think this is some wolf plot because the motivation and reasoning behind what I'm saying and doing is clear as can be.
We're almost surely gonna have to deal with the lost day phase to yeeting the Zealot sooner or later but eliminating wolves maintains a bit of margin of error on voting and causes the wolves to draw less cards at night. There are like 5 cards that could potentially mean the difference between a win and a loss depending on who draws them so eliminating a wolf now would be worth shifting the odds.
@Porscha @lucy Creature is always a wolf and never the zealot. Please vote there or at the very least, both vote Tutuu.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:54 pm
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Also, the chance of both Sabi and Wilgy being town is pretty freaking low so both of them on Sig with Tutuu is another red flag. Sorry to any townies in Sabi and Wilgy but it is what it is.
- Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:50 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
@MacDougall @DrWilgy @Sabiplz @Bereft
Sig is in my solve. However, he's far far far behind Creature and Tutuu in terms of wolfiness. Both Creature and Tutuu have a pov that is damn near impossible for a townie to have at this stage in the game. Creature is clearly coasting. SPF cased Creature as outside of his town meta and wolves ignored it D1. It is D4 and he has coasted through every single day when he could have been yeeted and yet he has not lost any morale or done any work. He's a wolf every time. Tutuu is pushing an absolute garbage POE and has turned on townreads like SPF, Dennis and myself almost purely in self defense. She does not really believe those reads. She has also treated these slots with the mocking tone of a wolf on D4 who has a full team. Practically putting her thumbs in her ears and sticking her tongue out at us. It is not the mindset of a townie on the verge of a loss and she is also a wolf every time. Sig is likely to be a wolf by POE but the case on him is flimsy to the point of nonexistence next to how obviously both Tutuu and Creature are wolves. Tutuu is voting for Sig. We're potentially 1 misyeet away from a loss. I think it's important to yeet Creature or Tutuu today.
I think that also means consolidating on Creature or Tutuu @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @Seanzie @Dennis. I don't particularly care which, though I think Creature is unlikely to be the Zealot on account of wolves would be perfectly happy "yeeting" the Zealot but they've never managed or even made much of an attempt to "bus" Creature. Tutuu received strong pressure for the first time today and probably has a standard 1/5 chance of being the Zealot (or 1/4 if you assume Creature is never the Zealot).
So I think we should consolidate on Creature but if we'd prefer to consolidate on Tutuu, I'm fine with that, too. I think yeeting Sig today would be a mistake.
Sig is in my solve. However, he's far far far behind Creature and Tutuu in terms of wolfiness. Both Creature and Tutuu have a pov that is damn near impossible for a townie to have at this stage in the game. Creature is clearly coasting. SPF cased Creature as outside of his town meta and wolves ignored it D1. It is D4 and he has coasted through every single day when he could have been yeeted and yet he has not lost any morale or done any work. He's a wolf every time. Tutuu is pushing an absolute garbage POE and has turned on townreads like SPF, Dennis and myself almost purely in self defense. She does not really believe those reads. She has also treated these slots with the mocking tone of a wolf on D4 who has a full team. Practically putting her thumbs in her ears and sticking her tongue out at us. It is not the mindset of a townie on the verge of a loss and she is also a wolf every time. Sig is likely to be a wolf by POE but the case on him is flimsy to the point of nonexistence next to how obviously both Tutuu and Creature are wolves. Tutuu is voting for Sig. We're potentially 1 misyeet away from a loss. I think it's important to yeet Creature or Tutuu today.
I think that also means consolidating on Creature or Tutuu @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @Seanzie @Dennis. I don't particularly care which, though I think Creature is unlikely to be the Zealot on account of wolves would be perfectly happy "yeeting" the Zealot but they've never managed or even made much of an attempt to "bus" Creature. Tutuu received strong pressure for the first time today and probably has a standard 1/5 chance of being the Zealot (or 1/4 if you assume Creature is never the Zealot).
So I think we should consolidate on Creature but if we'd prefer to consolidate on Tutuu, I'm fine with that, too. I think yeeting Sig today would be a mistake.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:38 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
I could swap Sabi for idk Porscha. I’m scum reading Sabi off that one post alone. Wilgy could also potentially be town.
I don’t think there’s a world with town Tutuu or town Creature. I’m very concerned that one is just the zealot and we’ll have a shit time after getting essentially no yeet today. But there’s nothing we can do about that possibility.
I don’t think there’s a world with town Tutuu or town Creature. I’m very concerned that one is just the zealot and we’ll have a shit time after getting essentially no yeet today. But there’s nothing we can do about that possibility.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:33 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:55 pm It would not be charitable of me to state that my view of your towngame especially of late now that you're semiretired is to just complain about not having time and make some basic reads and that go nowhere and then screech at everyone POE'ing you then do the thing where you don't care if you get voted off and all in all it is not pleasant. Hopefully you still can't figure out who I am.
My view of your wolfgame is clearly that it is not this, in particular, it is actually effective.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:28 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
It’s super annoying for you to come in with my exact solve, town other up and then talk yourself out of it without really showing your work in a way I can follow.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:49 pm The ... solve I am getting to looks less and less likely to have Tutuu in it hmmm.
I don't think Sig and Tutuu are partners. I also am not sure Wilgy and Tutuu make sense as partners.
Can Seanzie be this towny as mafia? Not Bereft?
Creature
Seanzie
Falcon
Sig
Dennis?
Maybe it’s necessary. It would just be better if you agreed with me on everything or could guide me to your changed reads or if you were just obvious mafia trying to save teammates.
Unrelated but we should take note: one of our wolves won’t be yeeted upon being voted out. So today is essentially lylo unless we happen to yeet in perfect order.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:21 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Probably not but I guess it’s a possibility.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:33 pm I think in Tutuu town worlds Bereft always mafia.
In Tutuu maf worlds we only lose to a Bereft distancing play?
@staypositivefriend @Jackofhearts2005 what are your feelings towards the idea Tutuu might be trying to spew Bereft town?
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:43 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
The argument goes like this.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:26 pmkk, so for both you and @Jackofhearts2005 how in the hell am I aligned with both sig and creature? Seems lazy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:25 pmGo for it.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:25 pm@MacDougall should I wait for SPF to chime in prior to responding to this one?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:18 pmThis is my gth solve.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:12 pm @staypositivefriend what do you think of this solve?
tutuu
sabi
wilgy
sig
creature
Tutuu has a wolf pov. Creature is not doing anything town Creature would do. Wolves.
Sabi’s evaluation of my evaluation of Tutuu was the most noncommittal wolfy nonsense. Wolf.
Wilgy using bad arguments to say Sig/Tutuu are not both wolves. Ergo, Wilgy and Sig also wolves.
Am I certain it’s Tutuu/Wilgy/Creature/Sabi/Sig? No.
Is that my best guess at this moment? Yes.
A townie incorrectly put in that solve can and should try to make their way out of it.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:18 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
This is my gth solve.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:12 pm @staypositivefriend what do you think of this solve?
tutuu
sabi
wilgy
sig
creature
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:05 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Neither Sig nor Tutuu were getting yeeted over Roxy or Creature yesterday. They can give each other whatever reads they like and I don't see that as particularly unaligned.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:41 pmBecause I don't think W Tutuu puts their teammate directly behind the easy yeet in this following quote:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:34 pm Why are Tutuu and Sig not aligned though?
To be in a wolf of where Tutuu is mafia and Sig and you are both town, there needs to be a wolf in my 6 top townreads.
Which isn’t impossible but maybe unlikely? Idk.Also I don't think Sig moves to the Tutuu wagon last cycle if they were aligned.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:23 am Final post for this day phase i jave work & wanna go 2 bed early
My legacy:
I think ROXY and SIG are outed and consensus mafia in anti-spewing
I think CREATURE, FALCON, PORSCHA are the final 3 mafia, all have various degrees of townreads on them (ive cased everyone earlier in d3)
JACK is my least confident townread, if im wrong earlier, get JACK
WILGY im more confident in townreading but his standing with everyone isnt good. If im wrong earlier, get WILGY but i much rather u kill in order
Everyone else i believe is considered consesus town / towncore
ROXY > SIG > CREATURE > FALCON > PORSCHA > JACK > WILGY is my preferred order of chops if i was all powerful and could control the chop from the grave
If town gets the doctor card tonight pls consider using it on me
Dont flashwagon anyone. ROXY is in anti spewing. Dont throw the game
Good luck and godspeed
P.S.: dont trust CREATURE'S bullshit that he cant be mafia with SIG and ROXY. Their "scumreads" on each other were terrible, awkward and are what made me think theyre mafia in the first place. Distancing is a concept thats well known to all of us
While Tutuu was unlikely to go over, I think Sig would rather just avoid potential bussing if unneeded. This is exactly why Sig voting Tutuu over Creature makes no sense given the context that Sig though Roxy was a wiff.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:04 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Tutuu: blahblidyblahbidyblahwolfystuffJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:02 pmWhere wolf? There wolf.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:40 pmI am struggling to see both of your pov in that argument.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:35 pmBecause I’m an unyeetable townie and I’m oh so charming.
Please read my recent exchanges with Tutuu and give me your thoughts.
Sabi crashes harder than me playing Wings of Fury.
Jack: My pov is that Tutuu's pov is wolfy. I don't see how a townie would have Tutuu's pov.
Sabi: I do not understand either Jack or Sabi's pov. I don't see how a townie would have Tutuu's pov and I also don't see how a townie would think "I don't see how a townie would have Tutuu's pov."
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:02 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Where wolf? There wolf.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:40 pmI am struggling to see both of your pov in that argument.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:35 pmBecause I’m an unyeetable townie and I’m oh so charming.
Please read my recent exchanges with Tutuu and give me your thoughts.
Sabi crashes harder than me playing Wings of Fury.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:58 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
@Sabiplz
The following movie is based on a true story. The order of events has been changed and some events have been removed for dramatic effect/because my memory isn't that great/I skipped some pages.
Once upon a time, there was a nice group of people who liked children's card games but five of them were actually wolves.
On the first day, Alison was really scummy, practically mirroring her performance in king of the hill. SPF and Mac were pushing Creature for reasons that I forget but that seemed smart at the time but Jack didn't feel like yeeting Creature because Creature is generally easy to read and he figured they'd be sure post D1. SPF and Falcon especially seemed townie. Alison in particular pushed on Roxy and Jack. FS made a bit of a funny read like "I think A and B are T/T but actually vote B." It wasn't that but it was something like that, the kind of thing that you could read as dishonest without squinting too hard. So FS got flash wagoned and flipped town. Oh yeah and at some point, Lucy claimed oracle, a confirmed town role.
Then the night immediately ended because of a special card.
Jack was annoyed that FS had been yeeted because he had defended FS a bit D1 and also, didn't feel like FS had been discussed much at all while he was around. He voted Alison, as did several other players. Alison said that she believed Jack was town because if he was a wolf lol what was he even doing but that Roxy was still definately a wolf. The day ended immediately because of another special card. Alison as yeeted and fliped town.
Yet another special card redirected absolutely everything, including the mafia nk, which hit Neon, who flipped town.
At this point, it as no longer D1 and Creature was obviously not in his town meta. The meta case that SPF had made on Creature (something like wolves not jumping on universal suspicion of Creature being super sus) was in full force. Creature was not complaining or doing anything, really. Mac, SPF and Tutuu emerged as something of a towncore. Mac and SPF suspected Jack but also Creature (Mac jumped back and forth a bit on these reads iirc) and I guess also Roxy. And maybe so did Tutuu? Roxy took her ball and went home. Jack stated a strong scumread on Creature but didn't really have much on Roxy besides Alison's say so. In an effort to get SPF to stop tunneling him and especially to not derail a strong town read, Jack said that he'd let SPF or Tutuu control his vote. Tutuu told Jack to vote Roxy. SPF initially liked this move from Jack but later decided it was a pocket attempt. SPF voted iirc Creature and Jack asked if he should move there but she didn't ever answer him. Eventually, Roxy was yeeted and flipped town. Fuckadoodle. Somewhere along the lines, Rondo claimed oracle but didn't push Lucy. Most players seemed to take this as just Rondo fucking around and paid it no attention but Rondo used it to OMGUS push players who pushed him and Sig pushed us to yeet Rondo for obviously lying about a CC.
Then the wolves shot Rondo.
So.
The question became "If the towncore of Tutuu, Mac, SPF is town, why tf are wolves killing a null to town player like Rondo?" Then SPF and Tutuu got in a fight and wagonomics said Bereft was always town and Tutuu kinda exploded with obvious wolf pov and Creature just kept mehing along without doing any of his normal town Creature thing.
And then nobody listened to Jack even though he was totes right this time, I promise.
The end.
The following movie is based on a true story. The order of events has been changed and some events have been removed for dramatic effect/because my memory isn't that great/I skipped some pages.
Once upon a time, there was a nice group of people who liked children's card games but five of them were actually wolves.
On the first day, Alison was really scummy, practically mirroring her performance in king of the hill. SPF and Mac were pushing Creature for reasons that I forget but that seemed smart at the time but Jack didn't feel like yeeting Creature because Creature is generally easy to read and he figured they'd be sure post D1. SPF and Falcon especially seemed townie. Alison in particular pushed on Roxy and Jack. FS made a bit of a funny read like "I think A and B are T/T but actually vote B." It wasn't that but it was something like that, the kind of thing that you could read as dishonest without squinting too hard. So FS got flash wagoned and flipped town. Oh yeah and at some point, Lucy claimed oracle, a confirmed town role.
Then the night immediately ended because of a special card.
Jack was annoyed that FS had been yeeted because he had defended FS a bit D1 and also, didn't feel like FS had been discussed much at all while he was around. He voted Alison, as did several other players. Alison said that she believed Jack was town because if he was a wolf lol what was he even doing but that Roxy was still definately a wolf. The day ended immediately because of another special card. Alison as yeeted and fliped town.
Yet another special card redirected absolutely everything, including the mafia nk, which hit Neon, who flipped town.
At this point, it as no longer D1 and Creature was obviously not in his town meta. The meta case that SPF had made on Creature (something like wolves not jumping on universal suspicion of Creature being super sus) was in full force. Creature was not complaining or doing anything, really. Mac, SPF and Tutuu emerged as something of a towncore. Mac and SPF suspected Jack but also Creature (Mac jumped back and forth a bit on these reads iirc) and I guess also Roxy. And maybe so did Tutuu? Roxy took her ball and went home. Jack stated a strong scumread on Creature but didn't really have much on Roxy besides Alison's say so. In an effort to get SPF to stop tunneling him and especially to not derail a strong town read, Jack said that he'd let SPF or Tutuu control his vote. Tutuu told Jack to vote Roxy. SPF initially liked this move from Jack but later decided it was a pocket attempt. SPF voted iirc Creature and Jack asked if he should move there but she didn't ever answer him. Eventually, Roxy was yeeted and flipped town. Fuckadoodle. Somewhere along the lines, Rondo claimed oracle but didn't push Lucy. Most players seemed to take this as just Rondo fucking around and paid it no attention but Rondo used it to OMGUS push players who pushed him and Sig pushed us to yeet Rondo for obviously lying about a CC.
Then the wolves shot Rondo.
So.
The question became "If the towncore of Tutuu, Mac, SPF is town, why tf are wolves killing a null to town player like Rondo?" Then SPF and Tutuu got in a fight and wagonomics said Bereft was always town and Tutuu kinda exploded with obvious wolf pov and Creature just kept mehing along without doing any of his normal town Creature thing.
And then nobody listened to Jack even though he was totes right this time, I promise.
The end.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:36 pm
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- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:34 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Why are Tutuu and Sig not aligned though?
To be in a wolf of where Tutuu is mafia and Sig and you are both town, there needs to be a wolf in my 6 top townreads.
Which isn’t impossible but maybe unlikely? Idk.
To be in a wolf of where Tutuu is mafia and Sig and you are both town, there needs to be a wolf in my 6 top townreads.
Which isn’t impossible but maybe unlikely? Idk.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:30 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
There are 9 townies left. 5 wolves.
Almost always town - Jack, Lucy, SPF, Falcon, Bereft
Strong chance of being town - Dennis, Seanzie, Mac
Not wolfy but running out of town slots - Sabi, Wilgy, Sig, Porsha
Almost always wolves - Creature, Tutuu
Everything is in order of towniest to wolfiest except the four player null/poe pile.
Ftr, Mac moved back up as counterweight to Tutuu zooming downwards and iirc two of my townreads expressing continued confidence in town Mac. I still have issues with some of Mac’s play. Idk. I don’t think it ever matters today and I kinda just wanna just let it ride and work with Mac or have Mac bus.
But like….you can see how I really really want those 4 players to get on board with my worldview or fight me so as to alignment tell right now.
Almost always town - Jack, Lucy, SPF, Falcon, Bereft
Strong chance of being town - Dennis, Seanzie, Mac
Not wolfy but running out of town slots - Sabi, Wilgy, Sig, Porsha
Almost always wolves - Creature, Tutuu
Everything is in order of towniest to wolfiest except the four player null/poe pile.
Ftr, Mac moved back up as counterweight to Tutuu zooming downwards and iirc two of my townreads expressing continued confidence in town Mac. I still have issues with some of Mac’s play. Idk. I don’t think it ever matters today and I kinda just wanna just let it ride and work with Mac or have Mac bus.
But like….you can see how I really really want those 4 players to get on board with my worldview or fight me so as to alignment tell right now.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:24 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Kinda? Maybe?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:08 pmMy brother, I do believe I've elaborated that I see what you are saying but am afraid to be wrong. What is your opinion here? Am I incorrect to pursue more data on Tutuu by desiring a solve on Sig/Creature?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm Getting massively tilted at my townreads being here, me making a point and then they all disappear without addressing it except Bereft.
Like…I appreciate you saying you see it but I feel like it’s gotten more blatant.
Also, didn’t we switch from
Jack: Creature or Tutuu
Wilgy: Tutuu or Sig
To
Jack: Tutuu or Creature
Wilgy: Creature or Sig
How did that happen right when I started pointing out Tutuu being wolfy?
Like I can’t think of wolf motivation for that switch, especially if Creature and Tutuu are both wolves anyway but ya know
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:04 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
@staypositivefriendtutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:01 pmu couldnt find a wolf even if u were surrounded by nothing but wolves, kiddo. ud probably call urself a wolfJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:57 pmNah. I think I can cheer myself up by yeeting a wolf.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:54 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm Getting massively tilted at my townreads being here, me making a point and then they all disappear without addressing it except Bereft.
@MacDougall
@falcon45ca
@Seanzie
@Porscha
@sig
@Sabiplz
@lucy
@Bereft
How can ya’ll read this as anything but a wolf taunting a townie?
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:01 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Meanwhile in wolfchat…
Spoiler: show
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:57 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Nah. I think I can cheer myself up by yeeting a wolf.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:54 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm Getting massively tilted at my townreads being here, me making a point and then they all disappear without addressing it except Bereft.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:55 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
@SabiplzJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:26 pmWhat are you even doing? Like I am wracking my brain for a world where your mindset as a townie when it’s D4 with no dead wolves and we have 2 misyeets left and no consensus and like…this is the way town Tutuu reacts to that situation. Not just this. Your last like six posts. You read like a wolf who is having fun cause she’s winning and is feeling no pressure and thinks she can power through.
@MacDougall
@sig
Ya’ll too.
I feel like Tutuu’s mindset here can’t come from a townie, here. Follow me or argue or get outted or whatever.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Getting massively tilted at my townreads being here, me making a point and then they all disappear without addressing it except Bereft.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:42 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Imagine being a townie and just lol giving up because someone suspects you.
I’d crawl into a hole and never come out.
I’d crawl into a hole and never come out.
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:41 pm
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- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:35 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Wilgy won’t let me bully him. Ergo wolf.
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- Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:31 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]
Lis ten to me