The Syndicate

I shoulda targeted Alison last night and insisted on a tie.

*blows raspberry*

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:24 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:23 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:01 am Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.
You could only prove yourself if you knew your target was scum, so this is bad.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, I strongly recommend you start shooting ASAP, since your shots would only help town in this setup, and it is unclear if you'll be around for 4+ more nights.

I guess I skimmed over the “if they are part of an enemy faction” bit.

Idk if I would have used the power all that differently. Maybe memed about letting it rand a bit harder. Whatever.

I’m annoyed that it won’t clear me unless my target is a wolf tho.
Either way, if you are telling the truth, you should start shooting ASAP. Your ability has only positive utility for town.

Yeah. I’ve just saved it up because the chances of a tie where I targeted goes way up as the game goes on.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 am technically jack's claim holds under the same principle though I certainly expect that this doesn't remain the case

Oh yeah, hey. You can’t yeet me cause I’m confirmed town or self resolving or whatever people thought about Chopchop.

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:01 am Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.
You could only prove yourself if you knew your target was scum, so this is bad.

Either way, if you are telling the truth, I strongly recommend you start shooting ASAP, since your shots would only help town in this setup, and it is unclear if you'll be around for 4+ more nights.

I guess I skimmed over the “if they are part of an enemy faction” bit.

Idk if I would have used the power all that differently. Maybe memed about letting it rand a bit harder. Whatever.

I’m annoyed that it won’t clear me unless my target is a wolf tho.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:01 am Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.
shoulda said this a few days ago :P

You can see in my iso that I was unaware that people were clearing Chop off being BoS.

Oh and @JaggedJimmyJay im fine with whatever length phases.

Whatever. I’m Arthur of the Brotherhood of Steel. I can prove myself (somewhat) by tying a vote between myself any my target. Mafia has no vote manipulation. We can do this three times until people believe because I haven’t targeted anybody all game.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:29 pm Why Jack?

Also, massclaim when?
I just don't need the Slaver dead, so I'll vote the other guy.

But I’m town...

Why am I “the other guy” for you?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:03 pm and even if they could, why would they?

Fair enough.

Yeah, wolves can’t duplicate that.

I actually softed my role for once but I don’t expect anyone saw it and it’s probably a waste of time to go looking for it unless you’re super bored.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:49 pm but also jack is on notice to idk why but you're going down punk

I’m not because

A) I’m me and

B) I have a moderately provable claim, (pending checking the setup for a way a wolf could do what I can do)

Wikia*

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Fuck wikis for disabling hotlinking and also for being fuuuuuuull of ads.

Is it really fair to put an unchoppable townie up against a claimed wolf(ish)?

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:57 am I love urist new avatar. Amazing

I’m somewhat disappointed he didn’t go with butt slap pichu.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:04 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:54 pm I mean, unless enclave is going to claim a Redding role you're basically confirmed town
Who is this aimed at?
Seanize, who replaced Syn, who replaced Posion.

They're Sheriff Marion and undisputed Redding unless someone else is a Redding.

Noted.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:10 am Marmot soft CCing Grogu’s soft claim is so weird too

The amount of mechanical shit people mention that makes me go “wait what? When did that happen?” is too damn high.

Maybe he’s a hypnotist.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:54 pm I mean, unless enclave is going to claim a Redding role you're basically confirmed town

Who is this aimed at?

At mention me if there's a compelling reason to yeet Chop over Alison. I don't think it matters but I've at least received an answer on why we yeet Alison over Chop. I just don't feel like reading three pages of debate over it.

Whatever. Both have to go and both are outted and I doubt either of them have anything that useful left. I guess the potential Alison kill (which I doubt she has) is the most dangerous thing either of them can do so sure.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:28 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:57 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:52 pm Kyle's avatar changes so much, I don't know whether to trust him or not
It's more suspicious when someone can stick with one avatar for years at a time imo
Pick an avatar for me

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:19 pm the question of can we manipulate alison into doing what we want is inherently dangerous
alison has lost her townside indie privileges for the month

More like everyone has forever. The age of yeeting 3P is upon us. Just not over wolves.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:15 pm im just gonna self hammer in a game with no hammer is the funniest thing

Bold move, Cotton.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:22 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:11 pm why does chop do any of that stuff if he's mafia though
Maybe he’s bad at mafia.
being bad or good at mafia is actually just a myth made up by corporations to sell us mafia lessons

I disagree. Btw, buy my book.

Chop already claimed wolf.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
you're reading way too much into the fact that i'm voting for alison. yeeting her today actually is the optimal play but i don't think anyone is listening or cares anyway.

Isn’t yeeting her like the next time things feel like an inevitable town yeet the optimal play?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
pretty sure he's the ncr thing

But why would he want Alison dead? Am I just reading too far into it?

Maybe he believed Falcon was lying? :wowee:

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?

Explain it in a way that I don’t have to dig though spoilers role lists, please.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm But seriously, imagine reading the setup.
I think I’ve pinpointed why I haven’t finished a serious mafia setup since Fire Emblem in 2018.
i never read the fire emblem setup tbh. probably why wolves won.

It was really good. Probably the best thing I ever designed. I just haven’t been able to make 3 Houses fit the format because classes are so similar.

I’m pretty sure nobody read the flavor so I included sex scenes.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:45 am @mods most active topic only works for people with less than 5000 posts. fix please

I’ll get right on it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm Did Chop ever make a case on Tony? I feel like I asked once and he got mad at me but I’m reading his posts and it’s like boomers on Facebook blaming everything on Antifa.

Tony was Antifa all along.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm The only town role that opposes Slaver and can protect twice is ACE of BoS, but Since VC is dead, the Slaver is not a threat to them.

I believe what you're saying sean is that Urist has claimed to protect twice, which is not possible if he's town.
Who is VC? I don't see any dead BoS in the list of dead people.

Vault City. Iirc, Mac and Esooa. They’re dead though.

Kyle claimed BoS.

Did Chop ever make a case on Tony? I feel like I asked once and he got mad at me but I’m reading his posts and it’s like boomers on Facebook blaming everything on Antifa.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm But seriously, imagine reading the setup.

I think I’ve pinpointed why I haven’t finished a serious mafia setup since Fire Emblem in 2018.

But seriously, imagine reading the setup.

I thought he was talking about Chop too.

Nice of two wolves to concede this game. Been a real time saver for me tbh.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:02 am i'm interested in chop and alison's collective responses to all this

Same.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:53 pm We should get any other brother to claim. If there’s like 2 more chop can safely die

How does that work? Don’t you only need 2 total?

FTR, how long were people holding off on yeeting ChopChop because they thought he might be the only BoS member and ergo locktown?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:36 pm Epignosis
Grogu
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
Marmot
MartinGG99
Poison / Syn / Seanzie

I’d bet the game and 20 dollars on being town:
Daisy
Epi
Kyle
Martin
TSP
Urist

(Alison)

POE:
Grogu
LC
Jack
Marmot
Sean

Yeh.

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Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:11 pm why does chop do any of that stuff if he's mafia though

Maybe he’s bad at mafia.

Wolf chopchop spew Tony and Daisy(Sprityo iirc) town. Gonna check that iso for more though.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:39 pm I guess we can chop JAck as I don't care much for him but imo Chop's more likely to be a hit.

Especially with his suspicious targets of Sloonei and You, who was supposedly attacked.

You can try but you’ve kinda sabotaged that effort and apparently, I’m so unyeetable that even attempts to get rid of me when I’m AFK don’t go anywhere.

I think [VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine is a little more suspicious than Jack.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:32 pm

Lol I can’t believe I missed all the poop writing when I played FO2.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:03 pm This is my role.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:28 am Louis Salvatore

You're the don of the Salvatore crime family residing at the bar named for you in Reno. You don't have quite the manpower of the Mordinos or Bishops, but your people are armed with powerful laser weapons that more than equalize the playing field.

You're a 2-shot role thief. Your people maintain secretive contact with the Enclave for arms purchases, though you still view them as the enemy. Twice during the game during any night phase, you may select a role ability listed for any member of the Enclave faction other than Charles Curling, Frank Horrigan, or Quincy and use it as described. If an ability relates to an irrelevant mechanic such as a factional night kill, that aspect will be useless to you. This will not take shots away from the Enclave themselves.
I copied the Communication Officer's conditional neighborhizer on N1 and N2.

N1 I targeted Epignosis.

N2 I targeted Alison and got a BTSC for D3 only.

To me Alison was likely outed scum as imo she was very heavily hinting, like overly hinting, on her Eldridge claim. She functions on a "mechanically optimal" mindset imo so it was quite clear to me she was scum or slaver. As slaver she 100% would use the town-optimal play (imo). And since Rej died as New Reno...I had to double check. And since Vault City died...she's 100% slaver.

UNLESS EPIGNOSIS LIED ABOUT TARGETING ALISON

CHOP CHOP LIED ABOUT HER BEING NOT-SLAVER.

But....

My Falcon was lying and Alison can’t be the slaver read was so smart.

Spoiler: show

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:57 pm Hold on. We don't need to mass claim.

Chop Chop mechanically lied unless Epignosis lied about who he targeted.

[VOTE: Chop Chop] aubergine

He especially targeted Epignosis and not me, for some reason.

Spicy.

Guess I don’t have to claim.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:45 pm
taking this as confirmation that you're the chosen one and that kylemii masonized you last night
[VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine
your turn to claim

Maybe. Maybe not. I don’t like being bullied, even by townreads.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:00 pm it smells like upgamers in here

What’s upgamers?

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