The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:11 am Juliet's response was not very impressive to me, I don't believe that she has a lack of understanding about my Discord Theory. I also don't believe she has a lack of understanding of how distancing from and accusing a teammate when you think you're getting lynched is a smart thing to do.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:00 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:02 pm I don't really care about his vest thing.

It's not a vest. It's (not copied and pasted) something like 'protection for just this night.'

It could be a town role, but it feels more like a 'gimme your power and I won't kill you tonight' extortion racket.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:39 pm That PM from jack's role was like "sell me your power and you get protection for one night"

Just one night. Like a freakin' protection racket IMO. (<3 Jack)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:45 pm I'd like to kindly point out that skipping day phases is not a frigging town aligned power.

Neither is restricting people’s ability to post, but here I am.

Are you restricting people's ability to post?

I tried.

N1 - speedchuck (Day 2 never happened)
N2 - nijuukyugou - failed

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:45 pm I'd like to kindly point out that skipping day phases is not a frigging town aligned power.

Neither is restricting people’s ability to post, but here I am.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:15 pm Is it paranoid to feel like the constant misrepresentation of my suspicions on Daisy/Juliets is scum indicative?

Dunya and Nova are also having this problem and I don’t think that’s just the mafia.

Linki: Why?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:05 pm Jack is saying LC is just straight up lying and isn't paying any heed to alternative possibilities. Bad.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:01 pm I'm permanently invisible; have been for years.

Go back to after I voted Mac and see the things you said. That involvement. That made me suspect you.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:49 pm Nah, I was checking in from a patio with wings and a beer, and the sunshine made it too hard to keep reading my phone, so I put it away.

You're not supposed to be able to see me anyway, because I'm invisible... but half the site regulars are mods of some sort with super powers, so that's fine.

Jack is scrambling to throw a bunch of fake news at you, but don't be fooled. If he were Civ, then we'd be having two days in a row instead. The end.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:52 pm You got it, bro.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:20 pm Here's the thing, though. I always use info gathering powers on people I don't know how to read and I don't know how to read Eloh. But if she's an alignment cop, she's town and if she's a ninja, she's scum.

you said her role fits both alignments. so what's your read on her now?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:14 pm Jackofhearts2005 when you got the cop check why did you pick Elo and not me or Daisy? (Sorry if someone already asked this.)

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:27 am my coworker asked me yesterday why my screen was always so dark. look away, mofo. look away.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:47 pm Epi doesn't even do insane cops (right?) LC probably just a baddie.

Wasn't Mac like "Of all the quiet people, I'm thinking about LC the most?" or some shit?

I'm pretty sure I've never been in an Epic game where there was an insane cop OR a strongman.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay
Nova's bad, too.

Also, Jack what do you see about nova? I have been antsy about him not looking the same as the nova I saw in the last 3 games I played with him where he was civ, but he has a plausible excuse (school).

Nova said Jack should be vigged, therefore bad.

I think that's the thought process anyway.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:13 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:42 pm MacDougall and Dragon D. Luffy

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:26 am


Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

I felt quite the opposite to this Jack. It's a perfectly natural reaction from DDL to Jay spew.

Mac stood in DDL's defense when Jack said he felt fake. It's certainly white-knighting. The meaning of that will be easier to judge as I observe the trend that I know will develop.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:44 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:38 am I feel some of the people townreading me are bad. At least one of them

Feels like one of those games where I manage to post in a very obvious civ way which convinces people, but baddies already noticed that and are blending in.

I might get NKd soon.

I feel like I've been able to civ read you better lately. Things that I used to incorrectly read you as Mafia for I now see as civ traits. Tbh it was mostly my cynicism because I used to read you bad for having strong insights that I chalked up to TMI but I've come to realise that we sort of see the game similarly. The way that I have been handling our interactions in games lately is a lot of the reason I feel my civilian game has improved. That and taking a back seat more. I realised that even though I have strong insight into scum, that brute forcing my opinions into the thread was counterintuitive to civilian wins and started playing more cerebrally. Less plaudits but stronger results. Only took me 8 years.

DDL suggested there might be a mafioso among the people reading him as a civilian. He did not specifically name Mac, but Mac nonetheless felt the need to respond. This is severe over-justification, and I think it's nice for DDL that it wasn't a two-way interaction. If he wanted to distance from Mac I'd expect him to name Mac.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:37 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:26 am


Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Looping back around on this one I questioned before, I got the distinctly opposite impression from reading that DDL post. It's exactly how I would have felt. Don't like that we're not on the same page in this game Jack. My face has scrunched up in confusion from several of your posts.

This is an extension of the first point. Mac used his civilian read on DDL as a conduit to shit on Jack, which is certainly compatible with TMI.

Dark green in Mac's rainbow -- unsurprising

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:42 pm I am trying to make heads or tails of this mac juliets weirdness and nope.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:02 pm Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

I don't wanna parrot people but this is the third time someone attacks nutella and I agree with it.

Let's [VOTE: nutella] aubergine before Mac also joins the ranks of the "maybe nutella is a civ" crew too and I lose my point of support.

DDL supported Mac against nutella. He did say that Mac's attack was the third he agreed with, lending some plausibility to the notion that Mac is only an incidental part of this. DDL didn't mention the other people though.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:46 am Pretty sure it was you who actually told me to start doing that quite a while ago too.

Not sure if I told it to you directly, but it is reqlly something I did myself. I used to tunnel vision a lot more.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am Oh yeah it's in my sig hahaha.

Oh that.

Okay whatever

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:07 pm You mean that nagging feeling Mac is pocketing me? I have it too.

It would be a creative approach for mafia teammates to take here -- one of them strongly supports the other, while the reverse is distancing by way of "pocketing". I don't get that impression. DDL was on to Mac's shit.

DDL's vote ended the day on nutella.

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Conclusion: I don't think DDL is a likely teammate of Mac.

Where’s the part of this that explains why DDL and Mac aren’t teamed?

This reads like a light green to yellow analysis.

not one mention in the last 2 pages of jack's iso lead to DDL except this prod to jay. ddl is supposed to be jack's biggest suspect.

ddl bad.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:19 pm Linki: It's not! I've been mafia with Speed twice and we barely even talked. Idk why.

Because I can't access Chatzy during the day. And I sleep at night.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

Nevermind.

Speedchuck it is.

so speedchuck will verify it day 2 and not night 3. correct? it's a "day action"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:11 pmNobody listens to dead townies, as you well know.

I do.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm I'll note as well that if Jack stole my role, he could verify that without outting anyone but me.

I'm okay with that. Again, assuming Jack lives that long.

I'm also not a bad target to get vestsploded if we go all the way testing this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm Kinda putting me on the spot, Jay. If I get vigged, it won't matter and if I don't, I'll do more work. Cross my heart.

What? Of course it will matter if you get vigged (if you're a civilian). You say goofy shit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm Anyway, it's the night phase. We're not lynching anyone tonight. If there's a vigilante out there they'll do what they do or they won't.

Jackofhearts2005, who's bad?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:03 pm The worst is a mafia member using a safeclaim, getting lynched, then a second mafia member using the same safeclaim after being red peeked.

what?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:59 pm For what fucking purpose does wolfJack ask Speedchuck to make him look even worse after getting red peeked?

For what purpose does Long Con lie about being 100% certain you're bad?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:02 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm @Elohcin is your role something that can be for both alignments? don't claim, just a y/n is enough please.

yes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kidding

For what fucking purpose does wolfJack ask Speedchuck to make him look even worse after getting red peeked?

There is no "make him look worse". A red peek is the worst. Everything else is just WIFOM garbage meant to distract and sow discord.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kidding

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:55 pm The beauty of this nonsense conversation is that it really does distract from the most important origin of the business:

Long Con pretty much claimed a red check on Jack.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:52 pm Nutella. I thought about doing Speedchuck and then I forgot I did Nutella. Those were my top townreads.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:49 pm I don't listen to Steely Dan. I couldn't have made that up.

And I would have made up a better claim than "I protected the person who died."

Would you have made up a better claim than "lie about speedchuck at first for some goddamn reason"?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:41 pm nutella was the role cop. not buying it.

Shhhhhhiiii.



I didn't target Speedchuck. I targeted Nutella. And then she died anyway.

This is the worst. It's just LC that's lying. Sorry, Speed.

did you target speedchuck or nutella???

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:44 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm How do you give someone a vest, and copy their power in one same action? I call bullshit.

It's a trade. They have to say yes or no during the day and then I get their power during the night and they get the vest.

You should claim your Steely Dan song.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:41 pm nutella was the role cop. not buying it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm How do you give someone a vest, and copy their power in one same action? I call bullshit.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:37 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:35 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:19 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:19 pm I don't know what that means because I haven't read LC's claim yet.

I don't know what your tagging speedchuck means. He seems to believe LC that you're bad though.

That's cause he doesn't know what he got came from me.

There's no way there's a wolf doing what I'm doing.

Four options here:
1. Jack got redirected
2. Jack got blocked
3. Epi missed sending a notification
4. Jack is causing confusion by lying randomly

Sorry Jack, I have recieved nothing whatsoever. And I'm, like, a primo subject. Why would you give me anything?

None of those are possible.

why?