The Syndicate

@Dizzy

A guy we used to play with. A bit off the wall. Infamously hosted a Harry Potter game with two mafias (each half full of traitors) and three serial killers, affectionately referred to as "the Hogwats Chainsaw Massacre." Some of your style kinda overlaps his. Gives the others a bit of an idea what to expect.

It's not super useful (w/w stuff) considering it can't clear and the scum teams are. It's not entirely useless, though. Worth noting.

@Bob
Yes, I'm avoiding the subject. You sound like paranoid version Silver/Nifty/Skullbro/Grinner. Everything Jack does is an evil plan. Not worth discussing. Not worth a vote on you either, though it does worry me cause you isually don't act this way.

gfishfunk wrote:
gfishfunk wrote:Here is an idea. (I post them as I think of them)

Post ONE player you think is likely town. Very simple. If you say yourself, I vote for you.

mine: colonialbob.
Choices for Most Town Read:

Silver Lantern - gfishfunk
Long Con - MovingPictures07
MovingPictures07 - DrWilgy
gfishfunk - colonialbob
thellama73 - Don't tell me what to do

People who have yet to respond:
Adam
CaptainNifty
colonialbob
Dom
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
Fredwood
Immortal_Raven
Jackofhearts2005
nutella
sprityo
S~V~S
TonyStarkPrime

I guess I trust MP most.

gfishfunk wrote:Here is a cozying post in my opinion, and I dissect.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Fuuuuuuuu my post! Let's see if I can remember everything.

Fluffy stuff:
@GFish
Bob is better than you? No comment.

@Dizzy
I like you but you ain't the last unicorn.

@MP
You could have lost us the Phenom game by not trying. Instead, you put forth a heroic effort (considering how late you replaced in) and helped get the town a win. I call that super clutch.

@LC
Love the poem.
I read this as cozying. I think mafia-JoH posts like this, not town JoH. On the other hand you are also acting a little ambassador-ish. All the nice stuff was to syndicate.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Non fluff:
I dislike Nifty's vote on Llama, especially achknowedging that it could be natural non alignment indicative suspicious posting. I agree with most of his meta and reasoning, though. Needs an asterisk next to his gut evaluation. *Does not apply to Jack

@Dizzy
But seriously, why MP?

Town reading MP. Won't vote for him today.

@MP

Two reasons for my big meta post. Firstly, to reduce culture clash. Secondly, to get people talking, specifically about each other. We sleep through day one too often on the Realms. Sometimes, asking for reads can be like pulling teeth. Talking about meta is my way to cut through that early on when there's nothing much in game to talk about yet.
Even criticizing Nifty, you are agreeing with him.

Cozying to MP. Town JoH is super suspicious and talks in far, far more double-speak. Then again, it could be ambassador-ish and promoting inter-community gaming. (See, like that with the double speak).

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@GFish

Do I cozy as mafia? *Eyebrow*
Silver sure as hell does but I don't think that's my MO.

Strongly leaning towards voting GFish right now.
That sounds more like vindictiveness than actual gut read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Dizzy/GFish not w/w. Llama/GFish not w/w. Llama/Nifty not w/w.
I have no clue what this means. W/D usually means washer and dryer. I haven't had much interaction with either Dizzy or Llama.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Town reading LC. I'm sure I'll scum read him on day three and then on day five, I'll tell you his real alignment if we're both alive. Disagree with him on Silver. Null read Silver.

Post MP walking back from GFish, I town read him less.
I tend to read walking back as townish unless there is a 'caught' feeling about it. Changing mind while nothing is at stake is a town move. Scum tends to double-down.

I'll have you know I actually am an official Syndicate/other communities and also new mods ambassador, hence my redness.

You may not have noticed (this is what? Your second game in six months?), but I've recently switched up my style a bit to look for townies as much as I look for scum. How nice is it when you're down to 7 other players and you know 2 are town for leading lynches, 1 is town for claiming the main character and 1 is town for claiming vigilante who is obviously the vigilante in the writeup? Your suspect list is down to 3 players. Now, why wait until late game for that? Way better to work this way than just lynching Grinner/Link/Destructo/Llama/Syo/Wigly for weird posting. Plus, taking stances let's people agree or disagree.

Re:Nifty
I'm allowed to agree with some things that people I'm suspicious of say, am I not?

Re: Vindictive
I could see how you could think that. Unless you and Adam are scumbuddies, I'm gonna walk back from that bit of my read on you, considering you both think that's a legit scum tell and you aren't just trying to frame me with bs (unless you are). It's not the only reason I think you look bad, though. Gut has little to do with it.

Re: W/W
Means w/w. Scumbuddies. I don't think you are on a team with Llama or Dizzy. I don't think Llama and Nifty are together.

Re: Walking back
It depends. Wolf 1 can go after Wolf 2, then "change their mind" and make it look like they aren't on a team when they never really had intention to lynch their buddy. It's actually not that bad of a look for MP. After all, I asked him to reevaluate and that's where his read started to turn around. Part of his scum read on you was based on faulty meta, imo. My comment on it making him look less town stems from the idea he could have been distancing.

Fuuuuu!

Syndicate saves full editor posts but not quick reply ones if the mobile page reloads.

I keep losing content.

I had a cheeky rainbow and everything.

Adam wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Do I cozy as mafia? *Eyebrow*
Yes

...

@GFish

Multiple people? Who am I cozying towards?

@Adam

When GFish answers this, I would like to hear your take.

gfishfunk wrote:I moved my vote off Long Con to chew on priorities.

I sort of want to hear more from quiet players or players that have posted nothing of substance.

Re: JoH "FEB" stands for February.

Thanks for almost making me pee on myself while standing at the urinal and laughing.

What's a FEB?

Half the realmsers think I'm a silver tongued mafia god. The other half think I'm blustery and full of fluff.

I feel like I should be offended but I'm more amused.

Silver Lantern wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Town reading LC. .
Why?

Fills.

Tone. Solving but not dominating.

It's a weak read.

Silver Lantern wrote:
Long Con wrote:Anyway, as I said, voting Silver Lantern. I didn't particularly like his response to my comments on the S~V~S thing.

I also am suspicious of Dizzy and Llama, for their "kill MP day 1" "jokes". Just reminds me too much of Macdougall in the Champs game, and the "joke" that fully meta-caught him.
You've already played a game with me, so either you didn't read anything I posted that game, or you're willfully ignoring my propensity and reputation for volatility. Either way, that's scummy behavior IMO.

Yeah but you're not doing much, which is scummy.

Something something. Broken clocks.

Fuuuuuuuu my post! Let's see if I can remember everything.

Fluffy stuff:
@GFish
Bob is better than you? No comment.

@Dizzy
I like you but you ain't the last unicorn.

@MP
You could have lost us the Phenom game by not trying. Instead, you put forth a heroic effort (considering how late you replaced in) and helped get the town a win. I call that super clutch.

@LC
Love the poem.

Non fluff:
I dislike Nifty's vote on Llama, especially achknowedging that it could be natural non alignment indicative suspicious posting. I agree with most of his meta and reasoning, though. Needs an asterisk next to his gut evaluation. *Does not apply to Jack

@Dizzy
But seriously, why MP?

Town reading MP. Won't vote for him today.

@MP

Two reasons for my big meta post. Firstly, to reduce culture clash. Secondly, to get people talking, specifically about each other. We sleep through day one too often on the Realms. Sometimes, asking for reads can be like pulling teeth. Talking about meta is my way to cut through that early on when there's nothing much in game to talk about yet.

@GFish

Do I cozy as mafia? *Eyebrow*
Silver sure as hell does but I don't think that's my MO.

Strongly leaning towards voting GFish right now.

Dizzy/GFish not w/w. Llama/GFish not w/w. Llama/Nifty not w/w.

Town reading LC. I'm sure I'll scum read him on day three and then on day five, I'll tell you his real alignment if we're both alive. Disagree with him on Silver. Null read Silver.

Post MP walking back from GFish, I town read him less.

Adam wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Meta!

Adam is cool as a cucumber. He does not crack. Unafraid of going against the grain. Sometimes not as active as I would hope. Depends on things irl. Generally doesn't lead lynches but gets conversation going early. Clutch late game.

Nifty is a nice guy. Gets a bit flustered when under suspicion (only as a townie?) especially when people scum read him based on disagreements like "Player X would only do that if they were mafia" or "Your target is super scummy, Nifty" and he doesn't think so. Can't trust me early. Expects me to not trust him. Traditionally an early game coaster (on reads, not posting) he's been really getting into things early, lately. Better than he thinks he is.

See previous post about Bob. He's a lynch leader and probably has the most Syndicatey play style besides me and Silver.

Dom I've played with once. Kinda quiet. Similar to Nifty, can get fluster over disagreements. More likely to turn disagreements into scum reads.

DrWigly is jokey. Haven't watched him pull off a strong play or a big mistake so idk what I can say that would be helpful beyond "fluff/silliness=/=scum Wigly."

Dizzy is basically ABF if ABF was good at mafia and didn't disappear for full day phases on occasion.

Epi is my arrogance/confidence and desire to meta read stuff only he's apparently good at it. Kinda grumpy. Maybe a better comparison would be Rokk when he isn't having fun. Smart cookie, though. Doesn't crack even in really bad situations. Soft spot for Llama.

Fred is known by most of us.

GFish is smart and thinks outside the box. Don't read him good or bad based on his "stupid questions." He's going somewhere with them. Or he just hasn't ruled the idea out as stupid yet. Will lead lynches early. Soft/hard spot for IR.

IR is another lynch leader. Gets a bit more heated at times than the other players in his weight class. Not as much as Silver, though. Smart with night actions. Soft/hard spot for GFish.

LC is very chill. Thinking what I'm thinking pretty often. I'm terrible at reading him. Soft spot for Epi. Will probably seem fluffy for a day or two but don't worry about that.

MP is sweet as pie. Suuuuper clutch late game when he puts the time in. Haven't actually played an early game with him iirc.

Nutella's style didn't really stand out to me or rub anyone the wrong way in the one game we played together in. He was supertown and then he died.

Silver is known to most of us.

Spirityo I don't have a good bead on. Watched him get easy lynched as town, replace in and get easy lynched as mafia. On the quiet side. Newish to the site?

SVS is nice and used to have a badger avatar. Don't have a strong understanding of her meta.

Llama is Llama. I guess that's not helpful. You'll see. I don't get him anyway.

Tony is relatively new to the Realms. Great performances in one night setups. Doesn't tend to lead lynches. Has impressed me more as scum than as town. So if I think he's town, he's fooled me and if I think he's scum, I'm tunneling.
Just for completion's sake:

Jack: wants to lead the town whether he's town or mafia. Right more than he's wrong but generally more stubborn when he's wrong than when he's right. Scum Jack is generally doing his best impression of town Jack.

So true it hurts. Especially the part about being more stubborn when I'm wrong.

Long Con wrote:That said, I, like S~V~S, love the idea of a Freddy role. Putting fear into players is something I have had some wonderful success with. Come play one of my games with The Hunger as a role.

One of my favorite wins was as a serial killer who couldn't kill two specific townies and could win as long as those two townies were the only two players. I successfully claimed as a Freddy and just targeted one of the townies I couldn't kill every time everybody posted. It was glorious when I won.

S~V~S wrote:Hey HCR players, I note that Adam, Gfish and Tony all have 1-2 posts. Is this the norm for them? Or do you think they may be shy in front of strangers?

Also, what is the norm for dealing with low posters at HCR? Do you lynch them, do they get modkilled?

I also note Epi has only two posts. Epi, come play with us. I need my grammar corrected

thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote: Llama has MP done anything this game that indicates that he is bad? Are you bad?
MP is always bad. He just has that sort of luck with Random.org. No, I'm not bad. In fact, my first post of this game was to point that out.
Is that something you commonly do?
Why did you ask this question, LC? You have played with me enough to know my style. Why ask a question you already know the answer to? Your curiosity here is fake news. FAKE NEWS!

*Votes Long Con*
You may look like Castro, but you sound like my Dad. "Fake News" is his new fave expression.

Typical Day One involves me and Bob trying to lynch someone, Silver complains about it (although he'll likely join in more after playing two Syndicate style games) and everyone else just messes around. We needed to have Day Zero awhile ago imo.

We primarily deal with inactive players via special vigilantes that only kill non posters or by Jack rage quitting.

Silver Lantern wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Meta!

Silver is known to most of us.
What a jip, lol. C'mon Jack, gimme some meta info on myself!

If Silver decides I'm town early on, he's mafia.

Did ya'll know there's an ISO button under your name? Like, you don't have to wait for the mod to post it on the front page.

nutella wrote:Jack I'm a she k

Don't know how to feel about most players so far, there isn't much to go on yet. I think I agree with MP's civ read of Bob though.

My bad.

thellama73 wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of Llama's vote is.
I'll save you some time. The purpose of everything I do in this game is to kill baddies.

thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
colonialbob wrote:Oh, look at Jack trying to pocket me/get me killed N1.
What, in your estimation, are the chances that this is what's happening?
Why would his own team NK him on Night 1?

This is what I mean about Llama. What do I even do with that?

Thought he was obviously scum while watching dead on the sidelines in BvR, though. Cause of votes.

Maybe I'll ignore Llama words and focus on Llama actions.

Meta!

Adam is cool as a cucumber. He does not crack. Unafraid of going against the grain. Sometimes not as active as I would hope. Depends on things irl. Generally doesn't lead lynches but gets conversation going early. Clutch late game.

Nifty is a nice guy. Gets a bit flustered when under suspicion (only as a townie?) especially when people scum read him based on disagreements like "Player X would only do that if they were mafia" or "Your target is super scummy, Nifty" and he doesn't think so. Can't trust me early. Expects me to not trust him. Traditionally an early game coaster (on reads, not posting) he's been really getting into things early, lately. Better than he thinks he is.

See previous post about Bob. He's a lynch leader and probably has the most Syndicatey play style besides me and Silver.

Dom I've played with once. Kinda quiet. Similar to Nifty, can get fluster over disagreements. More likely to turn disagreements into scum reads.

DrWigly is jokey. Haven't watched him pull off a strong play or a big mistake so idk what I can say that would be helpful beyond "fluff/silliness=/=scum Wigly."

Dizzy is basically ABF if ABF was good at mafia and didn't disappear for full day phases on occasion.

Epi is my arrogance/confidence and desire to meta read stuff only he's apparently good at it. Kinda grumpy. Maybe a better comparison would be Rokk when he isn't having fun. Smart cookie, though. Doesn't crack even in really bad situations. Soft spot for Llama.

Fred is known by most of us.

GFish is smart and thinks outside the box. Don't read him good or bad based on his "stupid questions." He's going somewhere with them. Or he just hasn't ruled the idea out as stupid yet. Will lead lynches early. Soft/hard spot for IR.

IR is another lynch leader. Gets a bit more heated at times than the other players in his weight class. Not as much as Silver, though. Smart with night actions. Soft/hard spot for GFish.

LC is very chill. Thinking what I'm thinking pretty often. I'm terrible at reading him. Soft spot for Epi. Will probably seem fluffy for a day or two but don't worry about that.

MP is sweet as pie. Suuuuper clutch late game when he puts the time in. Haven't actually played an early game with him iirc.

Nutella's style didn't really stand out to me or rub anyone the wrong way in the one game we played together in. He was supertown and then he died.

Silver is known to most of us.

Spirityo I don't have a good bead on. Watched him get easy lynched as town, replace in and get easy lynched as mafia. On the quiet side. Newish to the site?

SVS is nice and used to have a badger avatar. Don't have a strong understanding of her meta.

Llama is Llama. I guess that's not helpful. You'll see. I don't get him anyway.

Tony is relatively new to the Realms. Great performances in one night setups. Doesn't tend to lead lynches. Has impressed me more as scum than as town. So if I think he's town, he's fooled me and if I think he's scum, I'm tunneling.

Llama looks about how I expected him to irl. Make of that what you will.

@MP

Given my previous post, do you still read Bob as town?

Don't really like LLama's vote on Bob but the one time he was town with me in a game, he was lynched Day One as the cop. Actually thought his mafia performance in Blue vs Red was more my idea of what a townie looks like so

But I don't like follow up votes behind votes with unstated reasoning, especially on a player he hasn't played with. I don't think Llama thinks Bob is scum and two votes is not a opportunistic train. Considering the number of players who haven't talked and the amount Bob has, I'm not sure what the purpose of Llama's vote is.

@Wigly

Lots of times we go no lynch on Day One on the Realms. Hate it. But we don't generally have Day Zero and it shows in the Day One results. It's a fair question from GFish.

Sobered up. Since I'm gonna talk about Bob, it's worth stating that my earlier post about Bob/Ice (who is not in the game, though I wish he was) was a joke. I hadn't actually read any content at the time.

I do not consider Bob's actions as outlined by MP protown or antitown.

Bob is by my estimation the best HCRealms player who isn't me. He's great at strategic analysis. I totally expected his first posts to be clarifying rules/tricky roles and especially meta/Syndicate strategy. That is outside his alignment and is step one to playing this game from his (and my) standpoint. You have to understand the whole picture before you can play well. In no universe does Bob ignore this and in no universe is he scared to engage the Syndicate players in this type of discussion.

The only thing that Bob has done that is potentially alignment indicative is voting for Dizzy. Bob, can you explain your vote?

Silver Lantern wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Silver Lantern wrote:Hey there everyone. Does this game involve all the ME games or only the latest one?
Why, is your role from the latest one?

How familiar are you with the games? I am 100% unfamiliar.
I have no idea if my role is from the latest one or not. I am also 100% unfamiliar. Well 95%, cause I know it has something to do with space, and the main person is called Shepard.

The main person is called Wrex.

DrWilgy wrote:W-W-W-Walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells, grapes, melons, oranges, and coconut shells!

Wigly is town.

Dyslexicon wrote:Jack yer town. <3

You too.

Immortal_Raven wrote:Huh, so we just pick someone and go with it? Are we allowed to change our votes once we pick?

Raven is mafia too.

He knows how to scumhunt. Playing dumb, obviously

I am drunk and I think Bob and Iceman are mafia.

I hope this isn't a bublicate post.

Let's do this!

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