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by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:28 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:25 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
what feels gross about it?
It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.
Alison is well known for not being convinced kate and roxy are scum
Rephrase?

I'm saying I don't expect you to make that post as a townie unless you really think Kate is scum and it is part of an effort to yeet your scumread.

You're saying you don't think Kate is scum. That's not contradicting what I'm saying so I feel like one of us is misunderstanding the other in this exchange.
It was sarcastic. I'm saying it should be very clear that I'm convinced Kate and Roxy are scum so you saying "this post only comes from town if Alison thinks Kate and Roxy are scum" is a meaningless read. Roxy even scumread me for how convinced I was that Kate was scum.
Gotcha. Well, I'm gonna be looking at your original reasons for scumreading Kate anyhow because it's relevant to this and SPF is asking about it/went back and found it for me. We'll see if that changes my
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm I think jack is outed for insinuating that alison would never go balls to the wall trying to kill a player d1 for doing nothing
Didn't you push this kinda narrative last time I correctly scumread you? Just like blanket certain scumread with no oomph behind it?

Maybe it's just an Alison thing in general but it feels familiar one way or the other and I'm gonna go check in a bit.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:25 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
what feels gross about it?
It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.
Alison is well known for not being convinced kate and roxy are scum
Rephrase?

I'm saying I don't expect you to make that post as a townie unless you really think Kate is scum and it is part of an effort to yeet your scumread.

You're saying you don't think Kate is scum. That's not contradicting what I'm saying so I feel like one of us is misunderstanding the other in this exchange.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

#hedging

#cantbesuperwrongifyouhedgeattheend
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf
While SPF is quoting it, legit I'm more or less focusing on Alison and SPF because of this post and recent historical games where I've correctly scumread Alison and/or SPF when they were wolves and most players didn't.

I've not liked Alison's posts about others or reactions to my posts about her.

I have liked SPF's posts about others and her reactions to my posts about her.

Fwiw.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

You know what's nice @MacDougall ?

Polls in mafia games. :dark:
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
what feels gross about it?
It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:19 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

The only reason I'm not voting for Alison is because Alison gave me shit for "not scumreading" her and it has reverse psychologied me into not wanting to vote her.

But that's not a good reason. Alison's posts are the worst I've read and she's >rand scum. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:17 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:10 pm I keep thinking there are 4 mafia but trying to remember there are 5. Quite a lot. I wonder how many ive wrongly townread already. Lol if all 5
also i know it's a very stupid and level 0 tell but i think this post is probably town indicative because whenever someone expresses confusion about how many wolves they are, theyre town roughly 80% of the time. it's a tell that wolves usually don't think to make bcuz u have to yield ur TMI kind of weirdly to come up with that type of thought as a wolf
Rejected.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:13 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

I actually dig the SPF Creature case in a vacuum. Not voting there, though.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:10 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:08 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"
It's a pretty solid tell and I think I know Creature's meta better than you. He is certainly exhibiting it (he naked voted Kate right after I rallied a wagon on her).

Why are you waffling on whether or not I'm bad town or scum? I feel like the Jack I know would just lay it down as Alison wolf without feeling the need to second guess himself.
If you want me to just wolf read you, I'll just wolf read you. :grin:
I think it's wolfy of you not to have done so from the start tbh.
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by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:09 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm [VOTE: creature ] aubergine
Oh don't worry, I'll get to you, Jess.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:08 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"
It's a pretty solid tell and I think I know Creature's meta better than you. He is certainly exhibiting it (he naked voted Kate right after I rallied a wagon on her).

Why are you waffling on whether or not I'm bad town or scum? I feel like the Jack I know would just lay it down as Alison wolf without feeling the need to second guess himself.
If you want me to just wolf read you, I'll just wolf read you. :grin:
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:01 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
Fill me in, which one isn't towny?
I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.
Creature has hit a towntell of his which is quietly and nakedly sheeping me because he has gotten it into his head that as town I am always right and as mafia I'd feel obligated to bus. Regardless of whether you agree with that I believe that he believes it and so him acting in accordance with that is his town meta.
What does one even do with nonsense like this?

It's hard not to read it as a wolf trying to look like a townie that believes her shit doesn't stink.
I'm just good at reading creature what can I say

if you have a problem with the reasoning feel free to explicate it
It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:03 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm
Roxy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:03 pm snipped bc reasons-----

Hey Roxy, have you played with Creature before?
No why does it matter? It doesn't in mafia. Bad posts are, well, bad. It's why we ask questions and expect answers. It is the towns only weapon.
Roxy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:10 pm I have played with Kate for years and have no read. You must be psychic or a better player than I.
Highlighted pink text is contradictory.
This doesn't feel like a townie looking for wolves. This looks like a player arguing.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:02 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:16 pm In the absence of doing anything villagery, Jack is pretty votable imo.
You might as well vote for someone that isn't even in the game since we have the same odds of actually being yeeted. ;)
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:01 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
Fill me in, which one isn't towny?
I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.
Creature has hit a towntell of his which is quietly and nakedly sheeping me because he has gotten it into his head that as town I am always right and as mafia I'd feel obligated to bus. Regardless of whether you agree with that I believe that he believes it and so him acting in accordance with that is his town meta.
What does one even do with nonsense like this?

It's hard not to read it as a wolf trying to look like a townie that believes her shit doesn't stink.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:58 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm
Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 pm
Spoiler: show
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:34 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm

I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.



Get hyped.



What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go
Yeah, but it's D1...weird reason to SR him IMO
The same can be said to literally any wolfread rn. Gotta start somewhere.
No, that's not true. Lots of legit reasons to SR a player can & do emerge D1, but to SR a player just cuz you feel they have 0 wolves in a list of 3 is utter crap
Once again, no it isn’t. Pushing wrong world views is exactly what scum do.
lookin cute flushed emoje
I found an avatar for you.

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by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:57 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm
Kate wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
??? I think I've made 2 posts. Why are you looking at me?
This is an outing reaction by the way. This is literally a wolf asking "why me?" This is someone who doesn't understand how they've been caught off 2 posts.

I would dayvig this if I had a gun.
I'll bite.

Why is this a wolf asking "why me" and not a townie asking "why me?"
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:55 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm Thoughts on Jack? I guess he gives me KOTH vibes but want a second opinion.
I hope I’ve done like nothing ai at this point.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Roxy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm @lucy what is SR?
Super rare. Bronze ring around the figure’s base. Like a 50-50 chance to pull one or none each booster.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Speaking of forgetting about games, nobody listen to my Wilgy read when I make one.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:52 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:46 pm Wish I’d rand mafia. After a year and a half of only randing town, im probably garbage. Might as well get it over with.
Bruh you were good in Hot Fuzz.
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:46 pm How does Baudib even have any reasonable idea of what the correct and incorrect world views are at this point in the game?
Well, I think it's in context to T!Creature opposing my "Wrong world view."

I still think that line of thinking is wrong. I think wolves having TMI are more inclined to support a rigid world view in general, but I could be wrong on that thought process.
I totally forgot about that game.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:46 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Wish I’d rand mafia. After a year and a half of only randing town, im probably garbage. Might as well get it over with.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:43 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Falcon probably town.

This is me trying to be at least minimally helpful.
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

I am thou. Thou art I. Etc
by Jackofhearts2005
Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:43 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
Replies: 4390
Views: 72142

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Good morning

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