The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:52 am Let's give Jack the gun and let himself clear himself by shooting Wilgy. I liked that plan.

Me too.

Particularly because Nanook just won coronovirus mafia by bussing MP.

Wilgy has less than 20 posts this game. You have more than 200.

It doesn’t make sense to continue to hold off for “strong town voice” Wilgy from your perspective. You specifically should be advocating that we don’t bring a 19 poster any deeper into the game. That’s what I expect from town Nanook specifically.

So why are you doing the opposite. And the answer is not “lol I shot a wolf. I do what I want.”

I’d say your insistence on protecting “strong town voice” Wilgy and Mac’s insistence on shooting exactly Wilgy today make it quite a bit more likely the wolf is Wilgy, not Boo.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:08 am Unless I’m your new push, and I emphasize this, push somewhere else

Probably shouldn’t push me tho I’m basically lock town

Sure.

I officially accuse you of trying to defend Boo or Wilgy, whichever is your partner.

If either of them flip wolf, I’m blasting you next.

You earlier said you thought killing Boo might be a good idea because he refused to explain his reads. Explain yours.

Linki: No, I don’t think that’s the scumteam. I think it’s one of them and one of you and Mac. Have a pretty strong townread on everyone else except Hyena, who once again feels town but I haven’t seen his wolf game.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:01 am No I’m 100% serious, I’ll fight a wilgy or boo shot today tooth and nail

Why?

You just said you can’t tell if you’re just being contrarian.

You just said defending Boo seems right “for some reason.”

Fuck yeah, you do need to explain yourself. Bussing is a thing. You don’t get to take people out of the poe for no reason at all just because you shot a wolf. There’s obvious wolf motivation for this play. What’s the townie reason?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:00 am I know, it’s a shocking decision.

But yeah I’m shielding wilgy and boo they’re both off the table today, find someone else to push/shoot

Let me rephrase.

“Why the fuck do you have that opinion?”

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:12 am FG you can shoot Jack. I won't bitch about it. But I'd rather you shoot Wilgy unless he shows up between now and EOD and goes on a tear.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:37 am We’re at basically 7/2 right now, yeah? If we mis-shoot we’ll be at 5/2, wilgy can die then if necessary.

Otherwise I prefer to keep a potentially strong town voice around another day.

This is one of these candid camera games, huh?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:31 am You know what, fuck it, boo and wilgy aren’t in the POE today, and I’m voting to give boo the gun. Make me proud boo bear.

Today I’m hard aligning with boo/wilgy and pooooooosibly hyena but I need to check some stuff when I can use my laptop again. Fight me.

(Unless sloonei disagrees then I’m sheeping sloonei)

Lolwut?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 2:06 am sounds good. in that poe i'd go for jack

Talk to me about why you suspect me and I’ll guide you to a better choice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:04 pm
boo wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:52 pm Ok that was serious bs from Jack.
You'll have to be waaaaaaaay more specific.
Like I read all his stuff and my only reaction was what I posted.

Should we shoot you tonight or you wanna admit my game is so nuanced you have difficulty reading me?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 5:46 pm i had something to say here but i forgot

anyways mac is HELLA town and if i get the gun the shot is not going there, ever

oh yeah, someone said that wiggles will be a hard person to solve. i think that's a good shot. someone here kept saying they could read wiggles as time went on though

Wilgy can become obvious town sometimes but it really depends on how much effort he puts into the game.

Town Wilgy -> effort -> obvious town
Town Wilgy -> low effort -> eventual mislynch
Wolf Wilgy -> low effort -> eventual correct lynch
Wolf Wilgy -> effort -> ???

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:12 pm
Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:10 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:07 pm
Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:59 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:39 am With that said, if we do shoot Jack first and he flips scum, that might clear Mac altogether.
We’re never shooting me unless a wolf gets the gun.
Why would wolfs shoot you? You are a waste of shot if you are town. You are suspected as it is by a lot of people. Why would mafia kill someone they can frame
-- Why would mafia frame someone if they don't intend to have them shot by either themselves if they get the gun or by town?
Simple

To waste time and energy
Hmm. Fair point.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 2:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
I could have sworn there was a post where Nanook laid out all his reads and this was in response to it but I can’t find it. I don’t like the idea that I was actually not on the same page on Mac and replying to two different players over several posts.

If anyone sees it...
I think you were replying to several posts of mine rather than one specific one? Not sure but your reply made sense to me at the time, so idk
You got that I was saying “don’t shoot Mac” not “shoot Mac,” right?
And...did I shoot him?

No but Idk how much pull I have on your shot decisions.

That is I think wolves hard bus (or ignore their mate's posts) more often than they have no idea what's going on with their teammate.

The only thing is if it's say Boo and Mac, does Mac try to say it's me and Boo? Like is he that unaware of our pushes against each other?

So if it's Mac, that means it isn't Boo and I don't know who the third wolf is unless it's just Wilgy.

And the same if it's Boo but backwards.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:41 am Dougall if you think Hyena is town bcs he shares same scum views as you ( and mind you so do i ) why is he town and i am not? In fact i think i am superior to hyena in every aspect

Hyena said drago is scum BUT NEVER PUSHED for Dragos death. I pushed for Drago death entire D2 but hyena never did so except saying ye i think drago is scum and he needs to die when asked by nanook

Hyena has been smoke with no fire so far and i just cant see him as town

If you will say i bussed Drago why not say same shit to Hyena then?

I just find it beyond funny how Hyena who never had anything of substance and didnt even push for Dragos death is somehow a more townie than me who pushed on Drago sincr d2 started and called for his death on every occasion.

If you will hold me as null then hold Hyena for the same shit if not less. It is not consistent at all

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:22 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:47 am What I’d like to get from everyone is two people you would shoot and two people you would not. Doesn’t have to be ranked 1/2, I don’t care. Just give me two names on either end.
I would NOT shoot G-Man or Funny.
I WOULD shoot Dragomir or Boo.
I'm just re-reading and noticed this. Based on my reading right now it is perfect. Hyena has massive town cred for me for those two names he's listed as town. Would never shoot him, FG or G-man as it stands. The POE narrows.
This right here is beyond bad. Like i cant see how can anyone here read this post and go - yea i think this is good

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:50 am Not only you youself arent confirmed townie you took his words 100% honest and locked him as town bcs he sings the song you wanna hear.

I listed Gman and Slooney as two i would never shoot and you never once commented on it but somehow Hyennas words are enough to give him massive town read when his list is 50% as mine and i was right about slooney???

Like what?

And you said me pushing for Dragomir kill doesnt clear me but you NEVER said anything about it to Hyena who clearly has Drago in his shoot list and Boo - that considers Jack - person you suspect - to be scum -.

I think your read of Hyenna is absolutely bad and full of holes.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:51 am In fact your read of Hyena makes you look more as a scum than Hyena himself

So as Mac is changing his read on me to town, I’m changing my read on him to scum.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:41 am Dougall if you think Hyena is town bcs he shares same scum views as you ( and mind you so do i ) why is he town and i am not? In fact i think i am superior to hyena in every aspect

Hyena said drago is scum BUT NEVER PUSHED for Dragos death. I pushed for Drago death entire D2 but hyena never did so except saying ye i think drago is scum and he needs to die when asked by nanook

Hyena has been smoke with no fire so far and i just cant see him as town

If you will say i bussed Drago why not say same shit to Hyena then?

I just find it beyond funny how Hyena who never had anything of substance and didnt even push for Dragos death is somehow a more townie than me who pushed on Drago sincr d2 started and called for his death on every occasion.

If you will hold me as null then hold Hyena for the same shit if not less. It is not consistent at all

This tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:40 am NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
G-Man
Funnygurl555
Hyena

Johann

boo
DrWilgy

Jackofhearts2005

This is my reads list. I know it echoes many others. I think we are on the right track. I understand I'm probably in most of your POEs. I admit I didn't show up d2 which was hypocritical of me after complaining about d1. I was pretty disappointed in myself and needed to take the time quite honestly. I didn't want to be a toxic jerk.

I think Jack is scum. He's the least town player in the game. Hasn't done anything impactful aside from summon almighty ATE to move my gun from his head. I'd like that to be the shot.

Boo has been solid town read for me all game but he is in the POE all the same. I'd prefer Wilgy shot over him.

I am confident that everyone else I've named is town. Even Hyena. I think Hyena and myself are the only valid bad shots here so I fully expect to see arguments towards us. Hyena is exceptionally townie by content and his reads echo mine. He hasn't built his reads in a way to give himself outs.

Why has boo been “a solid town read” for you all game?

And nobody ever nks me anyway.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:35 am @Sloonei I would like you to summon as much energy as you can please. I know you're on the road but hit us like a freight train. You are a confirmed town voice. Play a 1 dat stump please.

Stump is in theory a role I’d love cause it’s basically bulletproof vanilla town and I’m rarely the deciding vote.

In practice, so much of my towngame revolves around how players treat me and if everyone treats me as confirmed town, I suck.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
I could have sworn there was a post where Nanook laid out all his reads and this was in response to it but I can’t find it. I don’t like the idea that I was actually not on the same page on Mac and replying to two different players over several posts.

If anyone sees it...
I think you were replying to several posts of mine rather than one specific one? Not sure but your reply made sense to me at the time, so idk

You got that I was saying “don’t shoot Mac” not “shoot Mac,” right?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:20 pm Okay, so after the four people I mentioned, things get a bit hazy.

HOWEVER

Theoretically, us four would need to find only two more town to have autowin, assuming we're correct about everything.

Out of the remaining six, {Boo, Wilgy, G-Man, Jack, Johann, MacDougall}, I feel the most confident about G-Man being town. Most of it comes down to the emotional reaction he had D2 when he was frustrated about how fast the game was going. It felt genuine, and I feel like if he was mafia, his partners would keep him filled in on what was going on. Thus, I would want to include him in my towncore.

Funny has been calling Johann town, and Nanook has been talking about bringing him to F3 regardless of his alignment. I need help seeing that he's town, and it would be great if I can do that since that would make him a good option for our second towny.

After that, I don't have much of a read on Wilgy yet, but after seeing him in Corona Virus mafia, I think he'd be able to show that he's obvtown. I don't know if just hasn't had that chance yet whether it's due to time, RL commitments, or something else. I'm not willing to kill him yet.

That leaves {Boo, Jack, Mac}. I don't think there's more than one scum in Boo and Jack just based on the argument they had D2. Thus, we could also potentially look for town in that pair. Granted, there's also the chance that both of them are town.

Finally, Mac is just ??? If we go with calling Johann town and G-Man town, then he's already in the PoE.

Altogether, the PoE for me right now would be {Boo, Jack, Mac, Wilgy}. Things that would change it would be us finding clear town in Jack or Boo, or Wilgy becoming obvtown today by doing what he did in Corona Virus mafia.
Jack is bad. Boo has great tone but almost has to be bad via POE. It could be Wilgy instead of Boo. But yes your POE is spot on. I'd include Johann but only at a stretch.

More weird takes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:28 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 10:03 pm Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.
Yes it's Jack. I am just about convinced. What a shame that I didn't shoot him.

Here’s a secret I may regret sharing.

Town!Jack is scared of Wolf!Sloonei. Wolf!Jack is not scared of Town!Sloonei.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 9:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 8:40 pm @G-Man

When you read Boo, can you look at his general aggression and ask if you think it is coming from a town perspective with townie motivation or if its defensive/offensive without being inquisitive. I don't think evaluating how logical he is or isn't is the key bit but rather how logical it is for town and scum versions of Boo to say the things he's saying.
Queuing up Boo's ISO showed me that he's been punchy with a lot of folks. At a cursory glance, he seems to post more counterpoint material than proposing ideas. The big idea he seems to have right now is being held close to the vest. His ISO is long, though, and I admit that I went through it looking for consistency, and that is what I found. If I can find the time, I will try to analyze it from a civ-or-scum mindset tomorrow.

Jack's ISO has enough of his manic snarky style to seem normal, but I still find the flavor a little bland through Day 1. Coasting perhaps?

Wilgy is being Wilgy, and I never know what to do with that. For now, I feel like I have to slide him into the not-a-good-look tier given the size of the game.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME This is probably too late to be helpful, but:

Would Not Shoot: Sloonei, Mac
Would Shoot: Dragomir, Hyena

We don’t really need more reasons to townread GMan but there’s this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?

I could have sworn there was a post where Nanook laid out all his reads and this was in response to it but I can’t find it. I don’t like the idea that I was actually not on the same page on Mac and replying to two different players over several posts.

If anyone sees it...

boo wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:22 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:11 am Boo, did you turn on me because I lowered you to null and raised Jack up to null with you? :P Also, did you think the argument that I originally made about Nutella (that you pushed alongside me), where I said that scum might not want the gun and might not want to be responsible for shooting town, was towny?
Turning on you would imply we were ever on a team. I found you suspicious at points during d1, but not enough to not push you above other people. N1 that changed some, d2 that changed a lot. The weakest part of my town game is not adjusting reads enough as I go (or being so aware of that I go all over the place because I trust none of my reads). I'm fairly satisfied with how I handled my Nutella suspicion this game. I was wrong, but such is life. I think I'm approaching you right. I failed at my approach to Jack in a few ways. Regrouping on that front and if Nanook doesn't decide to shoot him I'll look at it again d3.

Doing Towny things doesn't inherently make someone town.

boo wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:26 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Kill 2:
Jack & Hyena

Don't kill:
FG & Mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:45 am I would shoot Jack and Sloonei
Wouldn't shoot FG/Duskfall

Lol

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:40 am hyena was O F F n1 but the buildup looked genuine except for the flip flop on nutella but she's town so ...

nanook you got some meta knowledge on him?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:40 am WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD.

WHERE'S THE SCUM

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:44 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:43 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:41 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:40 am hyena was O F F n1 but the buildup looked genuine except for the flip flop on nutella but she's town so ...

nanook you got some meta knowledge on him?
A very small amount, a scum game and a pair of town games (only one I remember well tho)
does this feel like scum hyena or town hyena to you?
Could be either!
ahhh..... aha.

well

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:47 am idk if i'd be down with a hyena shot anymore tbh. if i'm wrong it's whatever.

jack or wilgy are some real spicy shots imo

but once again your opinion matters the most

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:47 am What I’d like to get from everyone is two people you would shoot and two people you would not. Doesn’t have to be ranked 1/2, I don’t care. Just give me two names on either end.
I would NOT shoot G-Man or Funny.
I WOULD shoot Dragomir or Boo.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:00 am OH YEAH. DRAGOMIR

is an option

Okay this is a pretty darn townie looking progression from FG.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:49 am I don’t think I’d shoot wilgy today, if last game is anything to go on if he’s town he’ll show him himself eventually and be a force. I was terrified of him as soon as he started playing in the coronavirus game.

Johann wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 am If Dougall is mafia, he wouldnt be so critical and salty about Nutella death. He would just shrug it off and say stuff like everyone wanted her dead

Dougall came in and told us we were lazy, unmotivated and we allowed it to happen. Mafia doing a pep talk to town is beyond me. If dougall is mafia then wp

Id shoot
Dragomir - Hyena

I wouldnt shoot
Gman
Gman

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] I think these were the quotes about you and Wilgy I agreed with.

Yeah, the one about you was actually from Johann. There was a 4 or 5 layer multi quote discussing you so maybe I mixed that up? Couldn’t find Nanook saying he thought your reaction to Nutella’s death was honest, which is what I remember agreeing with.

I can understand why that’s not the best look for me but whatever.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:00 pm
Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:43 am And i wanna swing it back to Slooney. Is he/she a regular here?
He is and he has a rep as a very good player.

Sloonei’s saying he thinks he was poisoned for his rep, not his reads.
So in a nutshell he was poisoned by a core member of this site?

That’s the idea. Drago could be that player, though.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:59 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:39 am With that said, if we do shoot Jack first and he flips scum, that might clear Mac altogether.
We’re never shooting me unless a wolf gets the gun.
Why would wolfs shoot you? You are a waste of shot if you are town. You are suspected as it is by a lot of people. Why would mafia kill someone they can frame

Wolf: Shoots Jack
Wolf: Oh darn. Jack should have played better.

Townie: Shoots someone other than Jack.

Not like the wolves can shoot someone who isn’t suspected at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:43 pm I think I look worst here but that's because Dragomir did work to pocket me. I think there's a good chance the Johann case was just distancing. Dragomir didn't respond to it like a scum responds to a townie casing them.

Bit sus on his interactions with Boo and FG too. I'd focus on those three.

Disagree. Johann’s appeal to Drago’s meta looks good to me. He was lock town from the getgo for me but if he wasn’t, I’d have him high all the sane for the Drago push.

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:43 am And i wanna swing it back to Slooney. Is he/she a regular here?

He is and he has a rep as a very good player.

Sloonei’s saying he thinks he was poisoned for his rep, not his reads.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 11:39 am With that said, if we do shoot Jack first and he flips scum, that might clear Mac altogether.

We’re never shooting me unless a wolf gets the gun.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
Do you think I am scum Jack?
Not particularly.
But in the post I quoted you said you were with Nanook on me and Wilgy? Why the change of heart?

I agreed with Nanook that you and Wilgy were not good shots yesterday.

I’m okay with both of you being in the poe now, especially if we’re clearing FG (haven’t gotten to why yet) cause that’s how POEs work.

Atm if it was up to me, we shoot Boo but we’ll see.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:35 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:37 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.
Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.
Spewed town imo.

“My teammate is locktown” - Jack about Mac in Inception

Convince me this is tmi. I’d be certain it was if say, you died and flipped wolf. But what about Drago?

(I’m just going to be contrary all game, mkay?)
Too early. Pocket attempt imo.

Actually yeah, I bet. It was a pregame post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 7:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
Do you think I am scum Jack?

Not particularly.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:35 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 12:37 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.
Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.
Spewed town imo.

“My teammate is locktown” - Jack about Mac in Inception

Convince me this is tmi. I’d be certain it was if say, you died and flipped wolf. But what about Drago?

(I’m just going to be contrary all game, mkay?)

In particular, I’m not sure why we’re clearing FG (presumably some antialignment with Drago I’ve missed) and well, you’re not cleared either.

Plenty of time to look at that, too.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:20 pm Okay, so after the four people I mentioned, things get a bit hazy.

HOWEVER

Theoretically, us four would need to find only two more town to have autowin, assuming we're correct about everything.

Out of the remaining six, {Boo, Wilgy, G-Man, Jack, Johann, MacDougall}, I feel the most confident about G-Man being town. Most of it comes down to the emotional reaction he had D2 when he was frustrated about how fast the game was going. It felt genuine, and I feel like if he was mafia, his partners would keep him filled in on what was going on. Thus, I would want to include him in my towncore.

Funny has been calling Johann town, and Nanook has been talking about bringing him to F3 regardless of his alignment. I need help seeing that he's town, and it would be great if I can do that since that would make him a good option for our second towny.

After that, I don't have much of a read on Wilgy yet, but after seeing him in Corona Virus mafia, I think he'd be able to show that he's obvtown. I don't know if just hasn't had that chance yet whether it's due to time, RL commitments, or something else. I'm not willing to kill him yet.

That leaves {Boo, Jack, Mac}. I don't think there's more than one scum in Boo and Jack just based on the argument they had D2. Thus, we could also potentially look for town in that pair. Granted, there's also the chance that both of them are town.

Finally, Mac is just ??? If we go with calling Johann town and G-Man town, then he's already in the PoE.

Altogether, the PoE for me right now would be {Boo, Jack, Mac, Wilgy}. Things that would change it would be us finding clear town in Jack or Boo, or Wilgy becoming obvtown today by doing what he did in Corona Virus mafia.

I don’t think the poe is necessarily that easy but I would be surprised if everyone in Boo, Mac and Wilgy was town so yeah, let’s stir this player group around.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 10:03 pm Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

Yeah and Dusk being poisoned suggests Jay and Long Con aren’t mafia.

Of course, Drago knows you and Jay and LC aren’t in the game.

Good shot, Nanook.

[mention]G-Man[/mention]

When you read Boo, can you look at his general aggression and ask if you think it is coming from a town perspective with townie motivation or if its defensive/offensive without being inquisitive. I don't think evaluating how logical he is or isn't is the key bit but rather how logical it is for town and scum versions of Boo to say the things he's saying.

I've been reading Johann as "Jo-ann" not "Yo-han."

It's good to be on desktop where gender/pronouns are visible.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 7:46 pm -Jack makes sense re: Dusk's poisoning. Jack makes sense re: Boo withholding his theory linking Jack and Johann. Jack makes sense? What a scary world we live in.

The horror indeed.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?

Nanook is like Nancy Pelosi.

I don’t just him but at least he’s not gonna do anything nutty.

When G-Nan and Johann are your top townreads but they’re not that into you and some people want them dead.

But then it’s kingmaker and you’re actually just dragging in a circle waiting for Nanook to do something.

Times five-ish. There's roughly five people not in the pool. I haven't counted.

boo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:52 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 10:39 pm Hell yeah I have, thank you all for not breaking my achy breaky heart.

My current pool is Hyena/Mac/Jack/technically boo cause he won’t play the game, ama
Why why why and why?

alternatively, why not x5ish?
x5ish? What?
He's asking why you're excluding the people you're excluding from your current pool.

Yeah that.

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