The Syndicate

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Gimmie some of your scum games. I’m goong to try to figure you out again.

The only things you’re missing is that the “Mac isn’t getting lynched today” is a shot at Dunya for saying a Daisy lynch wasn’t happening. It wasn’t about Mac at all. And that I was legit just asking if Mac was a low poster in your eyes. I can see how that looks like defense cause he did have 50 posts so “no” but

Eloh tends to complain a lot. There’s probably a pattern with her complaining about teammate lynches or not.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:55 pm D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.
Now we complete the prophecy when I am killed and we lose.

Lol I’m so proud.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:56 pm Is this the fourth straight game to have a D1 scumlynch?

Aside from always sunny, looks like

linkilinki

More evidence Speedchuck is just me without a goatee.

D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.

Good sport.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:44 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:43 pm What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.
That’s what I’m saying too.
Awesome. It’s good to finally be on the same page about something. I’m sorry for my frustration with you.

I’m a frustrating guy.

Sorry for suspecting you. Pretty sure you’re town with this flip.

Mac gives Nova a bunch of grief. Not sure what to make of it. Somebody take a look.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:38 am Team Nutella trying to build a counterwagon on a player that gets lynched a lot?

Nother good look for Nutella. Maybe a bad one for Luna.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:43 pm What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

That’s what I’m saying too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:02 pm Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

Just move to different timezones.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:18 pm can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy

Jay’s not the busser. Daisy’s not the busser.

I knew it was Mac all along. I was just testing ya’ll.

Mac’s town cause Juliets and Daisy are mafia. Daisy now voting Mac after her for show vote on Juliets and saying she townread Mac. Oh well I tried.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:55 pm Instructor just asked me a question I was not listening to, and I managed to b/s an answer.

Lol good.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:50 pm This is the dumbest conversation in EOD history. Is juliets bad or not?
no. and even if she was, we'd need more than 8 minutes to process this claim. she isn't being lynched today.

How long do you need to process claims?

10-12 business days? I hear that’s standard.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:44 pm I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.
Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

Mafia got secret fake character related claims too.

[VOTE: Neverwhere] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:43 pm Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

Over Mac and Nutella? Yeah.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:41 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.
i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.
I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

You played in FE but whatever.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella. Among the active players Mac is the best suspect I've got, so sure.

I'm still open to a low poster. I will run out of time in moments.

Cfd Juliets?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

Oh well.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:33 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:27 pm Well, you are dead wrong. You may think I am off but I'm not. I will claim if I have to because it will be very little lost for the civs and very little gain for the mafia if they kill me.
She projected this, and I think it's authentic -- particularly her lack of enthusiasm with the role.

I don’t understand. That’s a great role to have.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

*scribbles aggressively*

Go on and vote Mac, Daisy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.
Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki
Don’t stress yourself. Jack’s “strategy” feels snakey to me and I won’t be voting you by the time this poll ends.

Noted.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:03 pm Why is Never a better lynch?
As I see it, the case is no weaker than the one against juliets. I am serious. Then consider how we may project the future of the game given each permutation:

1) civilian Neverwhere
2) mafia Neverwhere
3) civilian juliets
4) mafia juliets

#3 would be a significant loss. Eliminating #1 or #2 would have similar impacts upon the future thread pace and climate apart from the obvious difference in alignment. #4 would be lovely to eliminate if the case is there.

What Never case? Or is that your point?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.
So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.
It’s cause I mumble sometimes.
Some people have a tendency to see the trees instead of the forest. I think you have the tendency to see a single leaf.

Why is Never a better lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.
So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.

It’s cause I mumble sometimes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.
Right so either way we lynch juliets
I like to call this “strategy.”
Tell me why juliets is bad without saying anything about Spacedaisy.

She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.
Right so either way we lynch juliets

I like to call this “strategy.”

I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:42 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:29 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:58 pm What?

No, if you’re scum with Juliets, that makes Mac town. You treated Mac and Juliets differently. You treated the player you suspect (Juliets) better than the player you don’t (Mac).
Ffs Jack! Why can’t you get it through your skull that I WASN’T DEFENDING JULIETS! I was ACCUSING you for doing something suspicious. I don’t believe Mac or Nova are bad. I do suspect Juliets. And at that point I suspected you too. I can’t decide right now if you are civ and tunneling or just fucking bad because you are totally unwilling to open your goddamn mind for a second and try and see it from my viewpoint. Bsjcjjeudbfkzk c

I’m going to spend my last few hours in Ohio with my dad. I’m still going to be checking in occasionally. I’m still working out where I want to put my vote. But I will cast it.
Why don’t you place it on Juliets for safekeeping?
Jack you would find it suspicious if I did or suspicious if I didn’t.

Let’s just see, shall we? [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

That’s the beauty of it from my end.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:18 pm The reason I ask is this:

When there is a highly active Day 1, and a variety of reads/wagons/initiatives are revolving around the discussion without a good inspiration for confidence (I think we're close to that now), lynching a less-active player is usually a good idea. As it stands my strongest suspicion is on MacDougall. I acknowledge that it isn't rock solid shite, but I haven't seen a single rock solid case in this thread yet. Refer to the last 25% of the video in my signature for more information.

Are you classifying Mac as less active?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:02 pm Question for the whole gang:

If we lynch a low-poster, who should it be?

If that's not your preferred strategy: great, grand, wonderful. You can still answer the question.

Not applicable.

This is dumb (because it doesn’t make me town) but I feel the need to prove that I am in fact a softy.

I cried when Bingbong Jumped ya’ll.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:52 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:48 pm Being confident that JJJ is town feels like TMI in any context.
I mean, kinda, cause scum have a hard time mislynching him but he also tends to take on the town leader role and draw legit townreads. Idk how you can be sure of TMI.

I thought you were joking about voting Jay. Who are you voting for for realzies?
Considering nutella.

But I'm not totally kosher with Jay either.

Tell me about both of them.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:06 pm I wanna vote Luna but I’m secretly a huge softy and feel bad about her getting lynched a lot D1.
This makes me cringe. It reads like you know I'm town, and feel bad joining in on the lynch.

It’s not like being lynched as mafia is easier or more fun. It’s not an alignment thing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:48 pm Being confident that JJJ is town feels like TMI in any context.

I mean, kinda, cause scum have a hard time mislynching him but he also tends to take on the town leader role and draw legit townreads. Idk how you can be sure of TMI.

I thought you were joking about voting Jay. Who are you voting for for realzies?

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

Where you at?

Linki: I miss Marmot.

Everyone: I could lynch Nutella and will vote for her
Also everyone: I could lynch Juliets but I won’t.

Why is Juliets not the counterwagon here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:59 am Spacedaisy is tough to get a read on. I would put her and Jay in the same bucket of "can always be anything and would never surprise". Wouldn't vote.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay
Mac has given some manner of reads on pretty much every active player in the game except for one.

Me.

This guy.

How is JJJ the only guy with no read, ever, in any MacDougall Day 1? I don't give a crap about a green skittle in a rainbow and a weird proxy thing attached to Spacedaisy. Those are nothing. Mac is avoiding me.

Is this a spicy?

I wanna vote Luna but I’m secretly a huge softy and feel bad about her getting lynched a lot D1.

I’m insulted.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”
This is what I'm thinking. Does baddie dunya toss votes here and there before landing on her actual choice? I find this behavior odd.

I was just giving Dunya shit for voting Mac after telling me to get over voting Daisy.

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