The Syndicate

We are going to have it here using the poll function we have. I went to college. I can count

No need to make this more complex than it needs to be. If weighting votes wins, we will be able to handle it.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I have elected to vote for weighted votes, largely from remembering the experience that two of the games I voted for I wanted to play sooner than the other two.

I would also suggest that *two* mods (rather than one) keep independent spreadsheets of the votes. That way, they can make sure their numbers match before the order of the games is established.

I volunteer to be one of the two.

I don't mind being the other. It's simple Excel data entry.

LizKeen wrote:I vote Democratic Mafia.

I am not a fan of clique mafia, it's why I stopped playing before. So if game order is decided by votes I fall on the side of weighted . Just curious though, why can't games be played in the order of submission or by whose game is ready first?

Weighted votes are more likely to reward cliques unless there is a large voter group, imo. For instance let's say you have a group of five that can be expected to give preference to each other. One of them, and only one, has submitted a game. If all five of them vote for it with their first preference vote, that gives it 20 votes. With a minimum of 10 games, you would need alot of voters to eqalize that advantage in a weighted system. Not saying we have that situation, but if we did, its impact would be minimized by not weighting votes. Plus its more transparent which I like.

And we do do first come first played in the speed queue. Running that queue as supply side and this one as consumer demand driven balances out nicely. Also deadline pressure can be the incentive some people need to finish a game. Plus it is fun We have a lot of exciting games coming up, it will be a good year!

Punch & Pie

We never did it before, so, no, it has not been a problem in the past.

And by "the past" I mean this has been the system used at every Mafia site I have played at, and I never recall ties being an issue

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I voted for 1=1, since that prevents the Clique effect. especially in a small voting pool. It just seems more fair to me.

You're the reason Woodrow Wilson was president.

No, I wasn't alive yet. I had nothing to do with the Russian Revolution, either. Or that nasty crucifixion business

And we will discuss how the poll will run as we get closer, MM. There is a submission deadline, yes.

Linki, if you have a way to tabulate it in thread, Made, that does not requirte modifications to the board, let us know.

Linki @ MM, no we will have less than 20 games. And I don't recall ties being an issue in the past.

I voted for 1=1, since that prevents the Clique effect. especially in a small voting pool. It just seems more fair to me.

I person, 1 vote smartass

We will be running the Full Game Queue in a short time. We will be announcing when submission are open, and when the poll will run a few weeks before it actually does so. In the interim, however, we had a question we thought we would put to the members.

The voting system we use now gives you a certain number or votes, all equal to each other. Lets say four votes, all worth the same. You choose 4 games, and all your votes are worth *1* This is easy to keep track of, and is simple and transparent. But it does mean that your vote for your favorite game will be worth the same as your vote for that fourth game you had to struggle to come up with.

We have been discussing possibly weighting your votes. So your first vote would be worth 4, your second, 3 and so on (assuming 4 votes). This would be harder to keep track of and to watch, so we would be making periodic updates. But this would allow for your favorite game to be treated that way. This would really work best, though, if we had a large turnout.
So we are opening this discussion up to you. We are going to keep this poll up until when the Full Game Queue Poll starts, and we will do it however the members vote.

If you could say why you like the option you support, that would be good, and votes are changeable if someones argument sways your opinion