The Syndicate

ebwop, "surprise *at* an", not "Surprise *and* an"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:19 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:55 pm Moving past Nutella for now because DDL’s focus on and interactions with her are extensive.

S~V~S:

1) Says he’s unsure how to read her on Day 4.
This one intrigues me.

Position, you don't know how to read me either, on any day. See GOC where you thought my genuine surprise and an incredibly Baddie McBadderson voting reason was me "not believing it myself".

DDL also probably knows that if you come after me I aggressively defend. Good or bad, I am super defensive. I am not an easy person to make a fake case on becasue I go down kicking and screaming. You don't know this about me?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:04 am also svs congrats on the whatever relation the baby is! Very cute!

Thank You!

Sorry for the giant apparently almost life sized picture,lol. It's my nephew, my brother Jareds son.

Jameson Abel <3

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:55 pm why am I tied with DDL? This is stupid guys. I'm not scum.

Apparently we're teammates.

*mods not more lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:53 pm is that a mod privilege?

Yes more can see people who choose to be hidden. I choose. I read a lot on phone but hate typing on phone so I lurk so I can keep up without having to explain lurking.

I was in the middle of phone posting and Mr impatient knows I'm here following the thread cause he's a mod. And that's the truth you think I'm lurking but I am not.

Link I lol I am not Luna teammate you are soooo bad at reading me.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

I am guessing he asked me my opinion and I guess I didn't answer fast enough

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:35 pm @S~V~S tell us what you think.

I understand the points you're making, I felt Blunt Luna was good Luns, but she kind of agrees with me (I think) about nutella, since I am having issues getting past that double kill.

But otherwise, nutella looks ok to me. Luna seems to be bouncing off Chuck, is this a normal dynamic for them?

Link I lol I'm typing on a phone my sister in law just had a baby I'm at the hospital

Sorry so quiet, I should not play 24/24 games, lol.

Voting for DDL again. Although I still feel in the night where Mac and Epi died, MAYBE one was to frame her, but both? I still think she may have killed Mac (one off killer?) although that would be more likely to make her civ than bad. Meh.

[VOTE: Dragon D L] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:17 pm
reywaS wrote:Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:25 pm...but seriously, congrats to my man DH for winning this award for best role use. As some of you know, I'm just getting back into the game after a lengthy hiatus while I was getting my shit together (ewww) and turning my life into something I'm not ashamed of. I really did miss you guys, and a big regret is that I ever left in the first place. DharmaHelper is a bad ass player and always has been, so while I have no clue how he used his role so well as to win an award it does not surprise me in the least that he's won this one. He, along with S~V~S, juliets, and Epignosis are pretty much responsible for making me want to play again. I really missed the banter in the game and the excellent conversation everywhere else. This is a smart group and i very much love being in the clouds with ya'll. Also, when you find yourself eye rolling like a mofo at one of my in game posts, you can direct your ire at those 4 for being so gottttdam charming.

CONGRATS TO DHARMAHELPER!!!!!!!!

[mention]reywaS[/mention] And I am so pleased to have you back and fully engaged! My timing in returning from break was impeccable

You're pretty charming too.

And Bye reywaS, super sorry I voted for you <3

Why is it his job?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:21 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:21 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:20 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:20 pm and apparently Lunalee moved right as I voted. Neat.
lol, vote reywaS with meeee
Should I though?
go look at how he responded to Mac's case on nutella after Mac died. It looks very opportunistic.

I read that differently than you did, but this is a good point. I reread Nutella today and am leaning towards she was being framed.

I am not thrilled that he isn't here, but the DDL case is a lot vaguer.

[VOTE: reywaS] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:21 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:48 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:40 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:21 am Hrm. It's weird that it's not MYLO right now.
My thoughts revolve around the presence of some kind of indy role. There are still ten of us. If there are three mafia (my assumption for a game this size) and an indy, then that still gives us one more day. Today is critical, however, in determining if the civvies will have a chance to win. In my mind, we’re screwed if this lynch goes wrong. I’m something of an optimist in real life but I’m a tin-foiling pessimist when it comes to mafia.
I would have assumed 4 mafia, is the thing. But I guess a third party could explain things. Maybe even the extra kill.
SVS said something about not starting out vanilla, but she is now.

Yes becasue I used my civvie role power, I had a 2 shot power, and I used them the first two nights. They were not a kill or anything negative, lol. Do you have a question or just implying that I am now vanilla because I killed someone?

I am going to vote for DDL, I have had a long day at work and it's not over yet. I will be back before EOD, though.

[VOTE: Dragon D Luffy] aubergine

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:43 pm Who's supposed to get lynched this time?
Mad money is on S~V~S and DDL.

CBob was one of the ones I was considering as baddie-possible. The lack of a flip doesn’t help but I no longer have to worry about him, which is nice.

No, YOUR money is on SVS. You had a gut feel day one, and you have been trying to make the facts fit your narrative ever since. Like that crack yesterday,

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:50 pm Mama Bear and Puff the Magic Dragon, splitting their votes up again? How convenient.

Sorry- no time for details before the deadline. I’ll elaborate in a little bit.

Did you ever elaborate? You keep making these little digs, and then not backing it up.

I am sure other people have split votes, I did not pay alot of attention to the vote analysis (I think they are useless without vote order, especially with changeable votes) but you pulled out me and the other person you suspect and found a way to tie us together. You could be right about DDL, but you are wrong-o about me.

I don't like to role claim (I didn't start vanilla, but I essentially am vanilla now) but I will if I must.

FWIW, I agree with you about Bob. He was hiding behind that schtick.

Today, reading DDL, Chuck and rereading Nutella again, I am having issues getting past both Epi and Mac dying (especially given Epis role)

Fixed.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:38 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:35 pm The more I think about this, the more it upsets me, actually, @ sabie12 .

Do you honestly think I am being flippant about civvies dying becasue I said "bye" not "RIP"? Do you really think that is a baddie tell?
No not at all I was like saying that was the only thing I could possibly get from you which isn't much of anything. I was in no way planning on turning that small thing into voting for you. Gman was accusing you and I was saying that's literally the only thing I could think of. I am not accusing you more like just curious on the word choice.

I know some people who stopped making any reaction post at all becasue they got into issues just like this, and I was gonna say, if you think I am bad, find a real reason to vote for me ha ha. I know semantics arguments have become in again, but I always found them overrated.

Linki, no you did not personally upset me, Sweetie. It's all game face

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:38 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:35 pm The more I think about this, the more it upsets me, actually, @ sabie12 .

Do you honestly think I am being flippant about civvies dying becasue I said "bye" not "RIP"? Do you really think that is a baddie tell?
No not at all I was like saying that was the only thing I could possibly get from you which isn't much of anything. I was in no way planning on turning that small thing into voting for you. Gman was accusing you and I was saying that's literally the only thing I could think of. I am not accusing you more like just curious on the word choice.[/quote}

I know some people who stopped making any reaction post at all becasue they got into issues just like this, and I was gonna say, if you think I am bad, find a real reason to vote for me ha ha. I know semantics arguments have become in again, but I always found them overrated.

Linki, no you did not personally upset me, Sweetie. It's all game face

The more I think about this, the more it upsets me, actually, [mention]sabie12[/mention] .

Do you honestly think I am being flippant about civvies dying becasue I said "bye" not "RIP"? Do you really think that is a baddie tell?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:16 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:36 pm Mafia is:

@ Dragon D. Luffy
@ Kylemii
@ S~V~S
And your reasoning is? The one thing that got me with svs was her saying bye epi and mac rather than RIP. Like who cares we just lost 2 more civs. That nonchalance over who cares we lost civs thing was also why I was suspecting gman.

I dont know on kyle and ddl. Nutella I could see as being bad. Very over zealous about the Enrique thing. She is very defensive and accusing epi who ended up being good.

Idk about spirit he's posted literally twice and once only to say epi was bad when he wasnt. It would suck if we lynch him and hes not bad but theres no way to know really because he has said nothing and never voted. If hes not going to be replaced then I guess I see why people want to get rid of him.

I don't like lunas comment on Enrique being good making her look good. And shes kinda following whatever nutella says. Idk if that's a teammate thing or an unsure what to do thing.

Gman says he is vanilla on the chart but we dont actuall have that confirmed. If he were bad it would be a great way to make civs look bad by saying he was good when he wasn't.

I'm really at a loss this game. Don't feel like I have any idea what to do. Those are some random thoughts. Idk

I say "bye" to everyone, or I try to. I don't like "RIP" since it's opposite is "BIH", "Burn in Hell", and why would I want to say that to a friend? I said "Bye" to LC and Nova as well. For me, a big part of voting to lynch is realizing we are ending their game, and I want to take that seriously which is why I don't love joke votes. Like I said earlier in the game, everyone is cool, and I take every death seriously. "RIP" and bye are just words, and if what you read into that is that I don't care, I don't know what to say. I dislike ending anyones game flippantly. Sometimes I forget and say "RIP", but it isn't my favorite.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:10 pm Like, is he usually emotional like this? I don't think I remember playing with him.
hhahahaha

You think this is a meltdown.

hahhahhaha

Tell 'em, S~V~S . Is this a meltdown or me just fuckin around?

He's just fucking around. I don't know if anyone here has ever seen me meltdown, but Rey and I play in the same league.

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:36 pm Mafia is:

@ Dragon D. Luffy
@ Kylemii
@ S~V~S

Sorry, nope, I am not Mafia. That is about as clear as you can get. You might be right about the other two, but not me. I can't read DDL,I always think he's shady, and Kyle looks pretty civ to me.

I thought I would have more time today than I do, so gonna vote and run.

I think Mac made a good case, but I also think Mac dying when he did (or even Epi, as he also suspected Nutella) smacks of set up. Although both of them ... I dunno.

Why is Rey getting votes? This is civ Ray, he doesn't feel anywhere near slick enough to be bad.

I would rather vote for a no show than reywaS and I am conflicted on Nutella and hoped to sort that out, but a 60* gorgeous day and a dog with cabin fever got in the way.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

I gotta say guys, this is not more exciting than the Super Bowl tbh.

Ebwop, and that "render normal gameplay moot" isn't facetious or snarky; there are people I have played with in the past that I had rapport with such that it effected our reads of, and interactions with, each other. We felt the need to sort each other ASAP, and having played several games in a row with you and nutella I got the vibe that you want to sort each other right away.

You don't see what reason a baddie Nutella might have to vote for a civvie (presuming you are one) in a closed set up game where no one knows how many bad teams there are or if there is 3P that kills?

Think about it, if there is only one bad team, they have to either vote for civvies or bus each other. If more than one, they legitimately suspect people just like town.

Is there a special dynamic between you and Nutella that would render normal gameplay moot?

That said, Macs case is compelling, but I waffle on the part where he died immediately after he began talking. Nutella shutting him up, or someone setting Nutella up?

I am off today and have a few errands to run, but should be around most of the day.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:09 am Many thanks to the host for the extra 24 hours. I would have been at a party in the hollers, where cell signal is a myth.

Since this game is still a relatively short read, I’m going to give a re-read another crack now that we can interpret two more players as civvie. I’ll try to plot out the votes in order too. I still hate the fact that our polls don’t track votes in the order they were cast. It makes vote analysis less reliable and vote analysis is what I’m best at.

They could also be indies, we have to presume we have them becasue of Macs flip:

You are a 2-shot FBI Agent aligned with the civilians. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player is self-aligned.

Civvies, town aligned, baddies Mafia aligned, indies, self aligned.

Mac missed the Day One vote, I wonder if he targeted anyone.

Bye Epi and Mac. Congrats winners! Welcome Sloonei.

Two kills but both flipped, unlike Nova.

Planning to re-read Epi, last lynch clarified a lot for me.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:07 pm My whole thing was I thought you had TMI on him so how you think his flip looks good for you is beyond me.
I thought he was good and decided to defend that. So if Enrique had flipped scum, I would look dumb or scummy. But yeah, you could say I look bad either way. I don't really care.

I like that

This person sounds like the person I saw in Asunder. You had no fucks to give in that game, it was why I initially suspected you. But in retrospect, knowing you were civ and contrasting it with your bad game in GOC, I very much think the Asunder Luna said that^^

Congrats [mention]Ricochet[/mention] ! Sorry Enri, I got you at the end but didn't know who else of the people who were around that I wanted to lynch more, and I did not want to vote for G Man. His Spider Sense needs some fine tuning maybe, but I stopped susping him a while ago.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:01 pm This is the second fucking stupid lynch in a row of a cool player who I would have liked to play with just because people are being fucking lazy

EVERY lynch is of a cool player I would have liked to have played with. All the people not posting or voicing suspicions are lazy, not fair to spatter that brush on those of us who are trying or who maybe voted for someone you think is cool.

We've got a lot of blendy people in this thread. They need to step up.

I gotta get up at 4:30 for work, I can't wait up anymore. Good night and good luck!

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 pm btw everyone who copied my "truth meta" bit unprompted is clearly lying

I was being facetious about the truth meta, I think that is bullshit. It's a weird thing in a Maria game, and I find it bizarre that it is even a thing.

But still, I am not bad and wasn't lying. We don't know what roles are out there; it can't hurt to tell the truth, even if it doesn't have a fancy jargony name.

Kumbaya

To be clear I don't want to lynch him either, I just am trying to understand your reasoning, Luna.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:36 pm Of course I'm not in the mafia are you even reading my posts

I am not voting for Epi with you. For now I am leaving my vote where it is because I don't want to be lynched.

Link I [mention]Lunalee[/mention] so all other things being equal you would rather lynch the active player?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:26 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:52 am [VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

A nostalgia vote for SVS, but she's also quite obviously bad bad bad.
Thanks alot I would return the favor, but it looks like you already have a vote (becasue you do/do not like socks?) and I would rather not place a second joke vote on someone with such a spread.

I see that Nova didn't really explain his LC vote. I saw DDL did but I don't see what was opportunistic about LC's vote, although I think Bob is more likely trying to relive the fun he had with Presidential quotes (unless he does this self imposed posting gimmick all the time?) than anything.

Still not loving G Mans vote, plus I see he is making feints at no shows when I seem to recall that we have a few replacements.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:15 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:01 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:29 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:00 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:54 pm Ugh, the poll has way too many single votes on it right now.
Maybe you could fix that?
Lol last time someone called Luna out for not practicing what she was preaching she was bad

I don't necessarily suspect her for it here though. Only so much one can do

But we only have 4.5 hours so yeah who should we start grouping votes onto? I'd love to hear thoughts other than my own
The way you start the sentence with "lol" before throwing shade at someone then saying you won't "necessarily" vote for them triggered my senses.
I too, don't feel comfortable trusting nutella.
Why not? Nutella lols quite a bit, why do you think it is alignment indicative? If you had to vote now, who would you vote for?

I have to finish my Socky thing, if I had to vote now it would be G Man, but as Luna says, we should be tightening up rather than spreading out more.

Nope, I'm town 100%. Truth.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:22 pm Anyway I decided I believe enri's truth meta. Luna hasn't decided anything, and I know I shouldn't be one to criticize flipflopping but she seems to be fabricating thoughts on enri according to the whim of the thread.
I mean if I were going with the whim of the thread I would just have joined the Enrique or Mac train.

You said you voted me for my Enri vote and because you didn't like the Enri or Mac trains. But Mac voted for Enri too.

What is different?

Enri who do you suspect?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:09 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:00 pm g Man, thought it was kinda vague but OK. "Her post reminded me of something I don't like", essentially. You are doing to me what you accused me of doing to you yesterday.

Linki, people actually take truth meats seriously for people other than Glorfindel?
I don't know, but it might be thrown around lightly depending on the person.

Well I'm town. I' m not Mafia. There you go.

Meta lol not meats.

g Man, thought it was kinda vague but OK. "Her post reminded me of something I don't like", essentially. You are doing to me what you accused me of doing to you yesterday.

Linki, people actually take truth meats seriously for people other than Glorfindel?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:27 pm We have 40min left I believe.
I don't see what's wrong with LCs vote, I don't really agree with him, but I don't see how it would be opportunistic. I feel OK about G Man now, and don't understand why Enrique has two votes.

I could get with Bobs Luna vote. She is reminding me more of the GOC Luna than the Asunder Luna. [VOTE: Luna] aubergine, spread the tie love.

I will be around in case I need to move a vote, since this made me nervous:

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:49 pm nutella is it based on actual content tho?
Rey said his vote for me was a joke vote, but he did not really talk much about voting for anyone else. And that looked like trying to justify it as a real vote.

@[mention]Lunalee[/mention]

I had a better reason than most day one. I felt your meta reminded me more of your bad game which we just played than your civ game which we also just played.

She's voting me for my Enri vote, but she doesn't like the Mac wagon although he ALSO voted for Enri.

Luna is saving Enri and G Mans Spider Sense is tingling.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:18 pm I don't like the enrique wagon or the Mac wagon, so I'm voting S~V~S

Why other than not wanting to vote for Mac or Enri?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:31 pm Truth meta here. I'm a civ.

I actually voted for LC precisely because I've played with him for so many years, while Luna is a newer player that I haven't gotten to know that well. I didn't think about it too much and I mean obviously LC's lynch didn't turn out well. I can also see how that could be construed as lynching LC because he'd know how to read me better, but nah.

I'm not dead weight! I think it's a pattern at this point that it takes me a couple days to get into the groove of a game. Still getting there but I appreciate this engagement. I'll keep you posted...

I know these two statements are not mutually exclusive, but they do seem somewhat contradictory.

This will prolly get G Man all in my face, but [VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

I have to do some stuff, but should be back well before EOD. I would like to hear who Enrique suspects, if anyone.

At the time of my "initial insight" he already had two votes.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:53 pm My day just keeps getting better.

No clue on my availability tonight. I’m placing a vote on S~V~S for now over her initial insight into Enrique and LC. It smells like the kind of maligned meta arguments I’ve seen her and others use against me in order to sell a mislynch without looking obvious.

I haven't voted for him, other people did, I just posted an insight that I think has validity. I think you just want to suspect me tbh.

People are asking Enrique questions.

Ha ha ha I guess I misread your meme.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:10 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:44 pm Hello fellow civilians who are we looking to lynch

I am on the fence about Enri (which is what I think you are saying here). Coming in at the EOD and voting to break the tie and save himself doesn't seem that awful, and saving yourself is understandable. The problem for me is a meta one, and I hope he answers me on this, becasue it will go far towards how I feel about him.

Me, Enri and LC come from the same place. I have been playing with them on and off for 10 years. Enri and LC were both already experienced players when I started, maybe they have played 12 years together, maybe more. LC was a central figure in our Mafia world of that time, and still is imo.

So when Enri came in yesterday, it was a three way tie; him, LC and Luna. He chose to break the tie by putting a vote on LC rather than on Luna. Which if he was just voting to save himself, I would not expect him to do that.

I could be way off here, maybe he and Luna have become fast friends in the last year when I was on break. This may not mean much to anyone else, but it is important to me. Especially after Luna came in and was like all, "What did Enrique do?".

Bye Nova, and Congrats DDL!

So there was no flip on Nova? The front page says:

@novaselinenever - posts - ??? - Killed on Night 1

If no night flips were the norm, I don't know that that "???" would be there.

[mention]Enrique[/mention] Imight have asked this before, not sure. Why LC? Why did you put your vote on him and not Luna?

Search found 64 matches