The Syndicate

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:12 pm 112 killed the thread lol

My HS French is obvs woefully inadequate; earlier in a post I translated your name as Little Fish, when it is very clearly Little Chicken. Sorry bout that.

Just got back from groceries.

Has anyone been able to adequately answer my question, why is Dennis suspicious?

What is the case on IAWY? Is there one or is it just "He's sketch"?

I see we have a tie.

TIES ARE DECIDED BY THE MAFIA. It's in the rules! Plz don't do this.

We should look on people forcing ties with disfavor.

It's a weird rule I've never heard of before, I guess Nanook hates ties.

OK, Lucy was fairly easy, even as a top poster.

She seemed to trust more people than she supected. I don't know that i agree with all of her reads, just some. Which is normal I guess.

The point people were taking from her posts last night after she was shot was that this was her last suspicion:

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:19 pm @hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummy

"Therefore Pyxxy did it", but that seems kinda simplistic? I dunno, sometimes people are playing 3D Chess, and sometimes they're playing checkers. Pyxxy killing Lucy seems more like Candyland. I know if I was the last person someone else said was bad, and I had a gun, I would wait until she said someone else was bad before I shot her. I'm sure it's possible, but like I said it seems too obvious.

And I take it that her reads list was a joke, like made up by a bot?

Now returning to our regularly scheduled alphabet.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:05 pm My issue with the three wagons are I only have town reads on 2 people on well all of the wagons. Those being Allison and Neon.

The people on Ilario wagon contain the ones I’m most iffy on scum wise being creature and maybe sloonie. (Don’t ask me what sloonie did I don’t remember but I do remember I thought I was weird)

I also don’t really trust PC who’s on the Dennis wagon. Now I don’t think they’re mafia but I’m pretty sure they’re 3rd party so like they’ve got a secondary agenda.

You don't trust someone on the Dennis wagon, so you ... join that wagon? And that Sloonei, doing something maybe weird.

I'm gonna go read Lucy, bbl

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:39 pm So Ilario if you're here and currently talking about me why are you making a joke about why you are voting me instead of at least also answering SVS's question

Well, he did, before the Den Den remark,

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:35 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:33 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:29 pm for the record im not actually voting cape

Neither am, I at this point.

i see you voted for Dennis; can you give me a general idea of why? I don't really see the suspicion, and would like to.

i was sheeping neon and i remember not liking something from his start, im not confident hes a hit fwiw

But ... so very vague.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:13 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:33 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:29 pm for the record im not actually voting cape

Neither am, I at this point.

i see you voted for Dennis; can you give me a general idea of why? I don't really see the suspicion, and would like to.

Why would you "like to?" If you don't see a reason for suspicion do you want to just to have a reason to vote him?

No not at all. Quite the opposite. I don't suspect Dennis, or want to vote for him. I would like to see people explain why they are voting for him, and no one will.

The last person I asked said something really vague.

Same for @Scotty , since he appears to be here; you voted Cape, then moved it. What did he say/do to change your mind?

Linki @Party Crasher for a very long time now.

I had to go back and read that post to understand why you/Petit were talking about HK; the part I liked had nothing to do with the people 112 was quoting. It had to do with the thought 112 expressed, that getting rashy with someone in thread, snapping out, it less likely to come from a wolf place then a town place. So I am tending to read that one post, HK telling Guillotine to fuck off, as townie. But mainly i was talking about 112s take on it, rather than the post itself.

And I tend to look for thread interaction as a wolf tell, I know there must be masons here, but they don't generally have any need to distance. That whole business with Scotty, it just felt like distancing to me. It didn't feel like you *really* suspected each other. Like if you were laying it out so if one of you get elim on day 4, the other could clear themselves from being a partner based on this interaction. It's a lean, and I'm not voting on it or telling anyone else to either. It felt a bit like manufactured suspicions.

But I don't know you or your meta, or anyone involved in any of this, really, except Scotty. And I know he doesn't start Supatowning until after an elim. It all just felt "faux" to me.

You voted for him, then moved your vote. Why? Which thing did he say that made you change your mind?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:29 pm for the record im not actually voting cape

Neither am, I at this point.

i see you voted for Dennis; can you give me a general idea of why? I don't really see the suspicion, and would like to.

K, gotta walk the dog, eat lunch, bbl to skip ahead to Lucy.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:14 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:07 pm how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

Okey Dokey, I have been sitting here refreshing becasue i didn't want to dump this while you were currently flailing in the thread, so here you go.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OK, Cape, our current wagon leader.

I am not always sure what I'm looking at here, since I definitely agree with Cape on this,

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:22 pm with ISOing you just miss context

There is a lot of discussion of IAWY and Scotty that, being honest, I didn't totally understand. I am going to try to reread it in context.

He made a townread of me, with the caveat that the post I made to try to get Kate to look at me looked Wolfy to him (fair enough, it had a specific purpose, and was aimed at a specific person). He also liked my post on 112, and later said he thought 112 was town.

As I read along, I found myself agreeing with several of his reads. Had no idea why he hit anyones radar (unless it was for reasons related to meta w/people I am not familiar with), until he started backpedaling himself a bit answering Rondos questions. Also, he spent alot of time early commenting on a discussion between IAWY and Scotty, but then he townread both of them towards the end of his ISO? Although he was fairly waffly on each. He and Scotty voted for each other at one point, though I guess that didn't last.

As Cape would say, Scotty is trending down for me.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:32 am Urist is one of those slots where I don''t really know but I lean scum on them. But I also think it could be a playstyle thing with him. The sort of confident kind of snark coming off urist this game is something all right.

I don't disagree with Cape here, but that little caveat there ... I am glass houses and all re waffling, I tend to try to see both sides. Is this a normal thing for Cape?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:23 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:27 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:12 pm Le petit is think I read page by page it's ducking dumb

?

my pb with you isn't that you aren't reading. It's that you aren't reading but pretending you are and faking reads. See my post about Alisons.

Another example:

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:51 pm I like SVS's post on 112.

I am not catching up

This post from SVS is clearly about HK. So I dunno what you liked since you didn't even start to process it.

U are just a wolf buddy. Sucky rand in a mash but such is life.

It's called, I am trying to be helpful in this stupid game with no time to be that helpful in this stupid game.

I am just confused here, I have made no posts/opinions about HK, and my post was clearly about 112. Which has no reflection on Cape, he isn't the one who said the confusing thing, I am just confuzzled by it

And Cape doesn't seem to be disagreeing with that, though. Which makes the most recent posts between him and L'il Fishy (new to me, and somehow I doubt they like "PP"; maybe LPP? It looks to be Petit, but I do wish it was L'il Fishy) feel a bit performative to me.

This is a developing situation. But I came out of this ISO leaning bad on Cape, Scotty, and maybe Petit. Not enough to vote on anyone over it yet, but most def in the red part of the rainbow. Plus IAYW is voting Ender, who is one of Capes biggest accusers. Not sure if this is a bunch of Mafia friends being insular, or some woofs whose efforts at distancing got too intertwined or what. This whole situation reads like a big giant clusterfuck, lol.

And now I feel bad dropping an alphabetical ISO into a current situation, but meh.

I certainly know that wasn't your intention; I tried to couch this as an "It's me, not you" perspective, becasue that is what it is. I'm not trying to make you feel any kind of way, I just A) wanted to clarify why I thought YOU thought bitching would be out of character for me, because in our main experience together, I was kinda meek because I think I was a bit overawed by you; and B), I was maybe a tad salty with you since I am not a huge fan of, when asking for help, being told, "Read my ISO!"

@Marmot (trying not to make quote walls)

Marmot asked:

What'd you like about 112's first post?

I think your take on Sloonei is on point. He doesn't play much anymore, nor do I recall him being the active poster he used to be when he does play, is there a reason you have him as POE as a result? I think of that particular part of his play as NAI.

Based on this, and Neons, reaction, I think I may be misusing POE? It's just process of elimination, it means same as "not sure" or "No Read". It means I have to figure it out, not that there is any suspicion. Null.

This is the 112 post I liked. I liked the insight here, thinking beyond the obvious. And I agreed with the thought.

@Neon (fixed)

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:42 am @Neon, I've never seen you bad. I'm not sure i would recognize it if i did. So you seem like you always do to me, but maybe you can do that when you're bad, too. It's kinda why I asked you & Lily that question, about how you interacted.

I am gonna have to read more of your reads, I'm not sure i can do that Day one. Although the fact that you, Lucy and Lily seemed to be coming together, could help clarify it for me.

Isn't putting people you are unsure of in the POE a good thing, or at least not a bad thing? Everyone starts out there, at least for me.

@Neon, I've never seen you bad. I'm not sure i would recognize it if i did. So you seem like you always do to me, but maybe you can do that when you're bad, too. It's kinda why I asked you & Lily that question, about how you interacted.

I am gonna have to read more of your reads, I'm not sure i can do that Day one. Although the fact that you, Lucy and Lily seemed to be coming together, could help clarify it for me.

Isn't putting people you are unsure of in the POE a good thing, or at least not a bad thing? Everyone starts out there, at least for me.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:53 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:52 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:45 am Literally, anyone reading Rondo town because of wallposts and bossiness is wrong.

I get v tired of reminding everyone that in his two wolf games so far he's shown perfectly fine solving/wim.

Also Rondo will agree that:
1. I have the most experience with him as wolf/in general
2. I'm right that he can fake the WIM/Bossiness.

Now, post-d1 there is certain arguments for him keeping it up being town or scum but D1 it's NAI.

Instead you look at his reads and positions.

OK, thank you. I have never seen bad Rondo. i will keep this in mind. My read was based on my experience of him, which is limited.

I barely remember your stances rn.

Can you gimme a quick summary?

I have very few so far. Starting with the people I have at least some experience with:

I think Kate is town, and I'm not seeing the Dennis thing. I am not so sure about Golden, he would come in saying what he did bad or good. It would be a good gambit for him, as it was in Game 1 where he was bad, to get Kate in his corner fast. I iso'ed both 112 and Alison so far, null read on 112, they made a great opening post, but kinda petered off after that, and voted with no reason, which isn't my favorite thing. I read Alison, and leaning 3P or maybe town. I might have leaned bad on her if i hadn't seen her react similarly to Golden as she did to Roxy when i spectated Cartomancy. Also i see some of her points on Golden, even if i disagree on Kate.

On feels alone, I think nutella more likely town. I don't recall much of what Marmot or Wilgy said, Scotty is someone I can usually sort quickly, but not here. It may be the giant thread, but all these are in POE for me. I've played with Dyslexicon, but it's been a while, so same there.

Mac isn't really maccing yet, but it would seem that is his day one norm? Last game I played with Michelle she was bad, and nothing like she is here, so lean town. Neon is cavorting with her friend, having fun, posting pictures. Pretty normal for her, I would guess NAI (never seen bad Neon), so also POE. Pyxxy has not made much of an impression on me yet, and I want to read them before trying to form one. They were civ in Holes, and I was positive they were bad. I think Party crasher is 3P. Rondo, based on my experience, which is limited, is town. Sabi seems solvey rather than avoidant, so lean town, my main imperession of Sean is from his back/forth with Alison, and him jumping on me for mentioning him in a post. POE.

Sig is here, but don't recall much he has said. POE. Sloonei seems detached and waiting for the field to narrow to engage. This seems to kinda be his new meta, being more detached. So POE. TSP is not unlike Falcon for me. Even if i had read all of their posts (and I haven't) I can only read them based on how much i agree/disagree with him.

Everyone else I don't know, have no impression of (except Lily, as her and Neon caught my eye. I asked them a question, wasn't 100% sure how I felt about Lilys answer), and/or haven't really interacted with. Like I said in an earlier post, most people this game seem to be *mostly* sticking to familiar faces, which I guess is normal Day 1. Just more pronounced in a game with this many people.

Rereading this, if i had to vote this minute, it might be for 112. I really liked their first post, but they had a total of only 4 or 5 posts, but that vote for no reason, I didn't like that.

I am going to ISO Cape next, then might skip to Lucy, or might keep up the alphabetical reads. I hope to have a better list by EOD.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:45 am Literally, anyone reading Rondo town because of wallposts and bossiness is wrong.

I get v tired of reminding everyone that in his two wolf games so far he's shown perfectly fine solving/wim.

Also Rondo will agree that:
1. I have the most experience with him as wolf/in general
2. I'm right that he can fake the WIM/Bossiness.

Now, post-d1 there is certain arguments for him keeping it up being town or scum but D1 it's NAI.

Instead you look at his reads and positions.

OK, thank you. I have never seen bad Rondo. i will keep this in mind. My read was based on my experience of him, which is limited.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:39 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:25 am I have never played with a Hydra before. I would expect that they can't just be eliminated by one round of voting? Like how would you eliminate 6 people with one vote? Why would anyone want to play as a Hydra if that were the case.

So now I see Party Crqasher has some votes; is my assumption wrong?

And while some of them appear to suspect me, ok. I like them in that as a person who knows a few people in this thread, but not all of them, my observation this game is that most people are focusing on a small group they know best, and PC, as multiple people, is spreading the love/suspects and engagement around. They are engaging with a wide range of people, not just their circle.

My guess is they are a 3P. If they were bad, how would that even work?

its one account, one player in terms of gameplay, just multiple humans controlling it. u eliminate it all at once. usually in hydra games everyone is a hydra - so its no different than a normal game

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:25 amWhy would anyone want to play as a Hydra if that were the case

thats the role that we were given, we didnt agree to do it before the game started if thats what ur asking

again, we are the people who signed up without having won a game in 2022, technically we would otherwise be ineligible to play. so this seems to be a compromise on nanook's part - he wanted to include everyone who wants to play, and also wanted to honor the tradition of only letting people who have won a game to play - in the middle ground this is the result

we arent mafia

Thanks, that makes sense. I have never played in a community that has hydra games, and yeah, not your choice. Sounds like fun though. Something I might like to try someday. The closest I've come to playing with a Hydra is Ika/Silverwolf. Heh.

And unless you were the *whole team*, which would not make sense if you can be killed in one fell swoop, you being part of a Mafia seems a bit unfair being as there is only one Hydra. So I'm calling you 3P for now, but you could be town, too.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:29 am Let’s Play a Game

Fill in the blanks:

1. Rondo is ________

2. Dennis’ worst post is when he ________

3. Nutella is _________ because ___________

4. Mac __________ when he ______________ with Urist on the front porch with a potato masher

5. ____________ shot lucy because ___________

1) Town. I haven't seen bad Rondo, but I would think it would be hard to keep up his level of bossiness coming out as hard as he did here Day 1, if he were bad.

2) The one where he said I was his favorite; blatant pocketing.

3) Town; shes being flexible and not marrying her reads. It's a LOOOONG time since I played with her. And while I don't always agree with what she's saying, I like how she's saying it.

4) There must be an inside joke here re mac Mashing; since I don't know it, I'll say they are making dinner together.

5) A baddie, becasue she suspected them.

Next person on my alphabetical ISO list is Cape, who I see is taking suspish. I might pass over a few after that to Lucy.

I have never played with a Hydra before. I would expect that they can't just be eliminated by one round of voting? Like how would you eliminate 6 people with one vote? Why would anyone want to play as a Hydra if that were the case.

So now I see Party Crqasher has some votes; is my assumption wrong?

And while some of them appear to suspect me, ok. I like them in that as a person who knows a few people in this thread, but not all of them, my observation this game is that most people are focusing on a small group they know best, and PC, as multiple people, is spreading the love/suspects and engagement around. They are engaging with a wide range of people, not just their circle.

My guess is they are a 3P. If they were bad, how would that even work?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:32 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:36 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:24 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:23 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:18 pm

He's a paralegal.

Doesn't seem feasible for someone who still eats crayons

He eats colored pencils!

Reading is fundamental.

oops, you already made the joke for me

Hi Kate!

Do you think Dennis is wolf or town so far?

Town. He doesn't seem nervous at all. He was nervous when he was mafia. Plus with this many people, he'd be more nervous.

OK, this was the post I was talking about earlier.

I was thinking that maybe he might be more comfortable after Cartomancy, he seemed pretty acclimated to Baddiedom by the end of that. I ask you this not becasue I specifically suspect him, but because so many others do.

Why are they wrong? I have to go back and iso him, there's no way i'm gonna catch up by reading the thread in context at this point. Also, what is your feel on Golden? I don't think him townreading you out of the gate is AI, it's something he'd do either way, and I am not a fan of the people who jumped on him for it, but didn't jump on the jillions od posts out there, "Player x, Town". But it didn't autoclear him for me, and I'd like to know what you think.

I am gonna try to come up with a ragged reads list; ragged becasue I don't know lots of people, and don't fully understand their suspicions. Day One is hard. Especially when work is a bitch.

This is a wolfy post fmpov. I have never felt like SVS is one to complain, just get stuck into it. But n=2 so we will see.

Jesus it took me five minutes just to isolate these clips out of the quote text.

You don't know me, you don't know my game. LGM was half a game, and you checked out of Felt. When you subbed into LGM, I was TERRIFIED of you. I almost backed out of Felt when you signed up at the last minute, I found you so frightening (Kate will vouch). In LGM you barked orders, unreasonable hypothetical requests and demands for lists I wasn't prepared to make. And I did all of it, to still be in your POE when I was a civ. I don't know if you thought that was all funny, or what.

Then in Felt you lost your shit when Falcon was lynched, and mostly ghosted the game. So how do you know I don't complain? Becasue i meekly did what you demanded of me, and was too terrified (not your fault by the way, just my reaction to your whole "Rondoness") to tell you to fuck off in LGM, lol? I always try to be polite but even polite people have bad days.

You do you, I am not critisizing you, just explaining where you might have gotten the idea I was a compliant meek person. I am not.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:23 pm Can someone summarize for me (and maybe all the other catcher uppers) why Dennis has six votes? Like a Cliffs notes lol

Read my ISO, the big wall posts are a big summary of what I think matters D1. But still not complete game encompassing. I want your reads list tyvm

I am reading ISOs alphabetically, I might not get to you until late. I did take Dennis out of order since when I got home he was vote leader, and I don't see what the big issue is, so I am asking people who suspect him to summarize. I plan to read on my own as well, but am asking for some help here, not trying to skirt my homework, Mr DimBuckle, sir.

I do plan on having a list of some kind before EOD, I don't have much else to do except play Mafia today, though. I've mostly heard only the loud voices, today I need to ISO and read the quiet voices.

OMG Rondo my eyes are bleeding.

Alison

I'm gonna start out by saying I don't know why people role claim. I never have. But I think a role that kills low posters is a grand idea, and I hope she's telling the truth.

Having watched Cartomancy, and then interacted with Alison in the spec chat, our thought processes are very different. So I don't really expect to agree with or 'get' everything she does. I think there could be a bit of culture clash with her and Golden/Kate as there was with Alison and Roxy in Cartomancy.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:50 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:54 pm Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Kate is pretty salty, NAI. She's got claws.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?

> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.

While I don't agree with all of her points, I like this post. It doesn't seem to be coming from a wolfy place.

The rest of her ISO just kinda peters out, the passion spent. She doesn't really feel town to me, but not sure she feels bad either. Maybe 3P?

Not sure how much of my read on her is about how differently to me she views things.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:40 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:38 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:25 pm What do ppl think of Seanzie?

I'm reading ISOs, and have only really encountered him so far in his back/forth with Alison, who I'm reading now.

My first experience with Sean was him (civ) tunnelling me (civ). I saw a little of that here, but he seems to have backed off. I haven't seen much else, and he begins with "S" so the odds of me seeing it soon are low unless he shows up tonight.

What do you think, since you're asking?

I've been here for hours. Are you paying attention?

Not really, I was at work, I got stuck late, I am doing ISO's and popping into real time intermit.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:25 pm What do ppl think of Seanzie?

I'm reading ISOs, and have only really encountered him so far in his back/forth with Alison, who I'm reading now.

My first experience with Sean was him (civ) tunnelling me (civ). I saw a little of that here, but he seems to have backed off. I haven't seen much else, and he begins with "S" so the odds of me seeing it soon are low unless he shows up tonight.

What do you think, since you're asking?

Can someone summarize for me (and maybe all the other catcher uppers) why Dennis has six votes? Like a Cliffs notes lol

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:45 pm LHF means low hanging fruit, basically refers to a low posting player who is easy to mischop/tends to end up in POE. I don't think anyone said that about Creature (closest is that some mentioned he's posting a little bit less than is expected from him, and I'm not even sure of that at this point)

You know, I knew that. Doh. Thanks, so much different jargon!

112; content is very smol, but also kinda mighty.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:17 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:15 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:13 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:07 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:03 pm

Its decidedly unfun to have someone repeatedly shout, over literally a single post, "x is a wolf" and I'm here for a good time.

Basically you're annoying and boring and I don't have time for that

Im sure it is unfun to get correctly scum read off a post like that. What did you think? That it was gonna work again?

Fuck off guillotine. You're being a belligerent bellend and I'm done dealing with you.

Another overreaction. We can do this all day, this kind of responses will not get me to back off, totally the contrary.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:57 pm Hi.

8 pages already is ludicrous, don’t count on me to read that.

Here’s a quick summary so you don’t have to:

-Guillo vs HK is a WWE match- nothing of substance and lots of play fighting

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Nothing of substace?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:12 pm Im not gonna let you pass up my push on HK as nothing of substance.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:14 pm But if Scotty is scum, Hollowkatt is town based on that post.

Guillo, I got nothing more out of your ISO. Your read on HK is still a very early micro-reads that you are entertaining. You are also overreacting. (giggles)

HK never reacts to me like this as town. He expressed a townread on me for NAI reasons and i can see it as an attempt to pocket me and also associate me with him.
He personally attacked me which he has never done and bailed out, so im willing to flip him to find out what's up.

I actually think the totally overblown insult clears him. Someone with team members they're closely associating with via DM does not make a post like that.

I am also glad the first person on the player list quoted this, so I am seeing this complex looking situation while i am still fresh and enthusiastic.

Also I tend to agree; people with a chat room are less likely to spew "fuck off"s into the thread imo.

They voted for Alison, but gave no reason why. So hrm. Overall a null; I like their strut but I need to see more of it to form an opinion. I don't think I've ever seen 112 before.

Linki @Creature (or @nutella )~ what is an LHF?

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:36 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:24 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:23 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:18 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:15 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:38 pm

I'm like 99% sure that was a joke

Are you a lawyer? How much are your services?

He's a paralegal.

Doesn't seem feasible for someone who still eats crayons

He eats colored pencils!

Reading is fundamental.

oops, you already made the joke for me

Hi Kate!

Do you think Dennis is wolf or town so far?

Town. He doesn't seem nervous at all. He was nervous when he was mafia. Plus with this many people, he'd be more nervous.

OK, this was the post I was talking about earlier.

I was thinking that maybe he might be more comfortable after Cartomancy, he seemed pretty acclimated to Baddiedom by the end of that. I ask you this not becasue I specifically suspect him, but because so many others do.

Why are they wrong? I have to go back and iso him, there's no way i'm gonna catch up by reading the thread in context at this point. Also, what is your feel on Golden? I don't think him townreading you out of the gate is AI, it's something he'd do either way, and I am not a fan of the people who jumped on him for it, but didn't jump on the jillions od posts out there, "Player x, Town". But it didn't autoclear him for me, and I'd like to know what you think.

I am gonna try to come up with a ragged reads list; ragged becasue I don't know lots of people, and don't fully understand their suspicions. Day One is hard. Especially when work is a bitch.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:11 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:59 am lily/party/rondo all v which makes gamestate feel like mostly town have been speaking

bottom third of posters is roughly

DrWilgy - 24 posts
Marmot - 21 posts
Michelle - 20 posts
sig - 19 posts
Inawordyes - 14 posts
hollowkatt - 11 posts
S~V~S - 9 posts
TonyStarkPrime - 3 posts
Dyslexicon - 2 posts
Porscha - 2 posts
Master Radishes - 1 post

does this list of people change your read on the game state at all?

Marmot and Wilgy have over 20 posts? Must have happened during pp 18-25, I haven’t read most of that.

TBH a lot of the thread until I went to bed was people I never played with poking each other or suspecting people for reasons I don’t understand, or me falling for Party of Six’ entry gambit.

Not too much to say about any of that.

@Kate ill get back during lunch I wanted to ask you about one of your reads.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:34 am Tutuu agrees with my thoughts on SVS btw, and didn't agree with your TR of them (same as me). But I don't think it's scummy from you and after talking they seem less sure @Michelle

Tutu then says that they don't get why you think playing against a 6 person hydra sinks your WIM. Could you explain a bit plz?

DZ (will be out for the afternoon now)

13/40 (most of the posts since I introduced myself other than the read lists and skills)

It’s a while since I’ve had a party of six fight over me

@Golden thanks I was starting to feel invisible.

I’ll try to keep up from work, but not sure how much posting I’ll be able to do.

OK, this Golden/Kate this is freaking me a bit on more than one level.

First, tons of people are making reads for no reason and no one is questioning it, or asking for reasons. All the jumping on a read of old friends seems sooo opportunistic to me.
Second, neither Kate nor Golden have asked me for my opinion, and they both know that while my opinion may be shit on a lot of things, I read Kate pretty well.
I threw her a ball, and she ignored it.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:25 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:53 pm I claim Kate bad because she hasnt hit 400 posts yet

I'M WORKING ON IT!

Good luck, I gave up. Too many people I don’t know.

So I was not sure she wasn't bad, since I also think she might have tried to avoid me when she's bad (although it's been so long since i can recall the last game where she was bad and I was town; 10 years ago, maybe?).

But her reaction to all of this pretty clearly puts her town for me. She doesn't seem to be spending alot of time worrying about how she sounds. Maybe she's salty for some other reason, or maybe I'm not as all that as I think.

@Neon , @Lilypetal are you two from the same home forum? You seem to have some simpatico, and that could give weight to your readings of each other.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:53 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:51 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:46 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:40 pm Golden defense of Kate is bad
Scotty unvoting Kate is bad and sad

Scumlean.

Characterising a town read as a ‘defense’ is inherently about trying to make people feel a certain way.

You are literally defending Kate, don't try to pull this semantic shit it will 100% not work

It’s not semantic shit. The same event can be characterised in different ways, the choice of how you characterise it is meaningful.

I'm not characterizing anything, you are literally defending Kate.

Defending her from what? I haven’t gotten to the point where/if any of this rolls back, but you seem to be aggressively making Mt Gigantico out of Mt Molehill.

If you rolled back on this, and I haven’t got there yet, sorry, but town reading isn’t the same as defending. There is some misplaced aggression here.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:37 pm Kate is my best bud, I isoed her to try and get a read and I got one.

Nothing to elaborate on.

I don’t give a fuck whether people agree with my read or not. No one has blinked at my reads of scotty or neon. Why the particular interest in my read on Kate specifically?

Golden sorting Kate like this is NAI. For people who dont know him to be questioning it, I can get that. But people who have seen their dynamic questioning it, hrm.

Just got up multi pages to catch up on.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:56 pm Serious read, Rondo is a wolf.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

He's fallen for a classic blunder.

Going against a Sicilian when death is on the line?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:30 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:25 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:53 pm I claim Kate bad because she hasnt hit 400 posts yet

I'M WORKING ON IT!

Good luck, I gave up. Too many people I don’t know.

dont

No don’t

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:25 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:53 pm I claim Kate bad because she hasnt hit 400 posts yet

I'M WORKING ON IT!

Good luck, I gave up. Too many people I don’t know.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:22 pm damn now marmot’s twinktold

What does “twinktold” mean?

@Porscha 13

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:11 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:07 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:09 pm how much would cood a would chuck chuck if a would chuck cood chuck would

A wood chuck would chuck as much wood as a wood chuck could chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood.

Did you even notice that I switched the 'would's and 'wood's

Did anyone notice that

I did.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:33 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:31 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:27 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:13 pm Is this pretty much a mash?

The fact you haven't figured that out already either makes you town or willfully ignorant.

By the way, I am thinking the former for WIFOMy reasons

I am not even sure what this means.

I know like less than 50% of the people playing this game

What's a mash?

mash is a big game with tons of players

the first post of the gambit demon thing was a joke, copypasta from a previous game :P

OK, that makes sense, role claiming a role with "Demon" in the title and invoking LC, who loves him some demons, might not do much for your long term survival. That's what got my eye about your post actually; I've played more than one LC Demon role.

Well, carry on and I'll stop poking you.

Linki @Scotty whats the diff between plurality and what we normally do?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:27 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:13 pm Is this pretty much a mash?

The fact you haven't figured that out already either makes you town or willfully ignorant.

By the way, I am thinking the former for WIFOMy reasons

I am not even sure what this means.

I know like less than 50% of the people playing this game

What's a mash?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:15 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:13 pm they put alot of thought

You have no idea

Yeah, I think maybe I do. You've got my BOTD.

I tend not to trust indies, but you tell a pretty story, and a girl likes pretty stories.

Hey.

Party Crasher had his post ready to go; he posted less than a minute after Nanook opened the thread, and they put alot of thought into that post. Not sure how I feel about it all, but this part at least seems sincere, since knowing LC, yeah, he would.

Long Con sided with mafia because he was sentimental and wanted to root for the underdog. I am not sentimental. Siding with the mafia after the town gave me my win is pointless. I have already gotten my win; putting in extra effort is not only meaningless, it actively compromises my ability to make further deals in this vein when I roll 3P in the future. It's strictly suboptimal to do that, so you can be pretty sure I won't do it.