The Syndicate

Ultimately, town was never going to come together to win this one. The first reason was all the inactivity, and the second was all the conversions. Ultimately, if you give a town role the chance to change alignment they're not gonna play that as town, they'll play it closer to independent survivor. This essentially made the entire town reliant on me and Wilgy to carry it, and the true significance of our roles wasn't obvious at the start of the game. Further, if everyone else can change their roles but the two of us are stuck with what we started with, it feels like we were essentially given a harder rand to start with. I think it goes to show why alignment-changing is not considered a balanced mechanic even absent of bastardry like cults, as cohesion is important for a faction to win mafia and it will just result in a snowball for the faction that is ahead when people can just opt out of a losing faction. Ultimately though, the inactivity was the more frustrating aspect while I was actually playing and that isn't the fault of the host or setup.

I am aware that my early-game performance wasn't the best, as the game came at a poor time for me; I was dealing with the loss of my pet lizard and there was also a game at NSM that was running concurrently. It's why I don't really like signing up for games weeks in advance, although games here nowadays take so long to fill that it's difficult to avoid. Anyway, thanks to the host and GG to the winners.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:58 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:46 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:39 pm This essentially confirms that Loki swapped LC and falcon. Given that wolves almost certainly didn't know of LC's alignment, this means that falcon is basically an outed wolf and should be our target for tomorrow.

That's not what it means at all, and you should be ashamed of yourself

Congrats on slipping away for the past two day phases, but next time you shall not be so lucky. You are outed.

You, of all people, should be grateful







But you're not






Also, LC flipping Maf strongly points to Simon as well

LC flipped essentially ITP that can change alignments. You will flip wolf.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:46 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:39 pm This essentially confirms that Loki swapped LC and falcon. Given that wolves almost certainly didn't know of LC's alignment, this means that falcon is basically an outed wolf and should be our target for tomorrow.

That's not what it means at all, and you should be ashamed of yourself

Congrats on slipping away for the past two day phases, but next time you shall not be so lucky. You are outed.

This essentially confirms that Loki swapped LC and falcon. Given that wolves almost certainly didn't know of LC's alignment, this means that falcon is basically an outed wolf and should be our target for tomorrow.

motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 5:07 pm Y'know what I might keep my vote on Simon No one thinks Abigail could be wolf but it could be me Simon or Abigail so do I. So I'll vote Simon.

Why not join the falcon wagon?

Simon wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 9:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:42 am While I still have time, here's the rough state of the game.

AS, motobot, and Simon are barely doing anything. motobot seems the least impressive slot of the three at a glance, but I'm not happy with AS's (lack of) effort either at this point. Meta from a previous game can only get you so far when you have a do-nothingist playstyle anyway.

dunya is a dead slot, someone vig this please. Thank you.

falcon's not looking any more impressive than when I last voted him, I'll give you that much.

Brad had a stupid tunnel D2 and refused to do anything afterwards. Don't go all "woe is me" about the Porscha wagon when you yourself said you weren't gonna do anything to stop it.

LC and LoRab look better than most people, but that's such a low bar to clear at this point.

Michelle's posts look alright I guess.

sig is basically another dead slot at this point.

I guess TSP is my top town read, but even he has done barely anything of late.

Try harder people.

It seems as if you are suspecting a handful of players. So then who would you be voting for?

I find it reasonable if you do not wish to answer.

See above post. I already found them suspicious D3, and they haven't done anything to alleviate that. My post you quoted is more of a call to action for everyone.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine I still think this is bad

"Why should I read you as town?"
"I'm towny"
"Well, can you do anything towny for me"
"As I said, I'm towny"
"Well, I'm going to need you to elaborate on that"
"I'M TOWNY and you are an idiot"

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 8:56 pm The funny thing is that I thought you were a competent player before this.

Now it's like...okay maybe you had 1 good game and that was a fluke.

Idk really.

"I did so much and you are wolfy for not seeing it! No I will not try to elaborate what I've done, no I won't do anything else to move the game forward, but you are an idiot for not seeing how amazingly towny I am!"

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 8:49 pm And no that shouldn't be a hard read.

If you struggle with finding me town...then that's a mass amount of skill issue for you.

[citation needed]

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 7:46 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 7:38 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 6:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:19 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:55 am
Also you just became clear via getting lynched. Aren't you supposed to be getting shit done yourself?

Or are you still going to sit on your ass and be a non-factor this game?

Why is it that whenever I call out your crap this game your only response is "no u"? Am I supposed to magically divine which of these like ten people who are doing absolutely nothing are wolves?

Because I've done significantly more compared to the people you're talking about.

This has literally gone on the entire game.

But for some reason you're unable to see it, and the fact that you're confirmed town actually makes this entire thing worse.

Like it or not, you have to towntell here. I do not. I'm also waiting on all this stuff you supposedly are doing, as you have not put forward one real suspicion besides me.

I've towntold throughout this game and made myself obvious town.

That's on you to figure it out, I don't have to do much else in terms of doing shit to get townread.

[citation needed]

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 6:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:19 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:55 am
Also you just became clear via getting lynched. Aren't you supposed to be getting shit done yourself?

Or are you still going to sit on your ass and be a non-factor this game?

Why is it that whenever I call out your crap this game your only response is "no u"? Am I supposed to magically divine which of these like ten people who are doing absolutely nothing are wolves?

Because I've done significantly more compared to the people you're talking about.

This has literally gone on the entire game.

But for some reason you're unable to see it, and the fact that you're confirmed town actually makes this entire thing worse.

Like it or not, you have to towntell here. I do not. I'm also waiting on all this stuff you supposedly are doing, as you have not put forward one real suspicion besides me.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:55 am
Also you just became clear via getting lynched. Aren't you supposed to be getting shit done yourself?

Or are you still going to sit on your ass and be a non-factor this game?

Why is it that whenever I call out your crap this game your only response is "no u"? Am I supposed to magically divine which of these like ten people who are doing absolutely nothing are wolves?

Oh, and Syn's posts have been so forgettable I forgot to mention them in the above post.

While I still have time, here's the rough state of the game.

AS, motobot, and Simon are barely doing anything. motobot seems the least impressive slot of the three at a glance, but I'm not happy with AS's (lack of) effort either at this point. Meta from a previous game can only get you so far when you have a do-nothingist playstyle anyway.

dunya is a dead slot, someone vig this please. Thank you.

falcon's not looking any more impressive than when I last voted him, I'll give you that much.

Brad had a stupid tunnel D2 and refused to do anything afterwards. Don't go all "woe is me" about the Porscha wagon when you yourself said you weren't gonna do anything to stop it.

LC and LoRab look better than most people, but that's such a low bar to clear at this point.

Michelle's posts look alright I guess.

sig is basically another dead slot at this point.

I guess TSP is my top town read, but even he has done barely anything of late.

Try harder people.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:03 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:05 pm Anyway, Brad needs to be pressured more. I had a theory for why t!Brad might have been so tunneled on me that, suffice to say, was debunked by the flip

I said it a decent amount of times when I was tunneling on you, you were refusing to solve when I tried to get you to solve.

And you were doing nothing when I asked you to. That's not a towny reason for a tunnel.

Simon wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:25 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:23 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:16 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:20 am

motobot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:53 pm I just realized my last post might not make sense after re-reading it. So to go into further detail Abigail was hesitant to vote Porscha, but she did anyway. I believe Abigail found out that even if she voted Porscha the vote would still lose.

uh I dont get it but I also dont really know how to interact with children so i'ma just say I dont get it and leave it at that lol

I like, *want* to be able to interact with the chillens so i'm gonna attempt this

@motobot

wat


I *think* I know what you are implying, but it relies entirely on the premise that you randomly surmised exists by virtue of saying it lol.

1) why do you think abigail had special voting information?
2) why does that ability inherently make her a wolf?
3) and then why does she choose to do what I think you are implying she does?

Because if you read enough you could figure out that leetic had more votes than you.
Abigail was unwilling to vote you but still did. Why vote someone if you don't believe they are wolf. And by voting you if you flipped wolf in the future she would look less suspicious.
Now I believe I answered all of your questions but I could've misunderstood one.

Moto I would like you to ask yourself why, if abigsil is a wolf, would she vote someone (leetic) who she knows will flip town and make her look bad. And it would make her look bad, she isn't very active and didn't have her own scumread on leetic. So it would look like a thoughtless sheep. She could have voted anybody else regardless of alignment to avoid that exact predicament.

So tell me- why didn't this occur to you and why are you preflipping Abigail to preflip yet someone else? Don't you think youre getting ahead of yourself in this thought process? If I flip today, and you will see I am town, will you still think Abigail is a wolf?

It isn't good practice to engage in the logic you're engaging in, in my personal opinion. It's an easy way to flip 2 town if you're a wolf.

And if you're town then it's just not a strategy that behoove you or the rest of the town. Hope this helps

Look, why don't we ask the actual player who is currently being the suspect? Even though she probably won't answer.

@abigail Sophia

Why did you you vote for porscha?

She already answered:

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:58 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

Why not join us on Porscha? Your vote won't have an impact on a vanity wagon

If it won't have an impact why should I join? I honestly don't think you or Porscha are bad (then again I haven't been paying much attention to Porscha)

It's more likely to have an impact if you vote Porscha. If you and Simon both vote Porscha, we'll only be two votes behind. And if you think I'm town, you should vote for the counterwagon which is Porscha.

Fine...but for the record I'm not happy with either of you getting eliminated

Though I'm not happy with the fact that I constantly have to answer for her

Anyway, Brad needs to be pressured more. I had a theory for why t!Brad might have been so tunneled on me that, suffice to say, was debunked by the flip

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:30 pm I may support voting Long Con this upcoming day phase because this dude keeps trying to push town...and pushed one out successfully.

Hate to break it to you, but Porscha probably wasn't town

the flip says she was

I don't really count someone who can convert at the first sign of trouble a townie anyway. That lynch was probably for the best, even if a wolf flip would probably be better

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:30 pm I may support voting Long Con this upcoming day phase because this dude keeps trying to push town...and pushed one out successfully.

Hate to break it to you, but Porscha probably wasn't town

So it's a good thing that we're probably not dealing with a cult. Some town members being able to voluntarily change their alignments is nonetheless concerning, however. Solid lynch, but I wouldn't give too much credit as the wolves were likely unaware if Porscha was on their side.

motobot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:21 pm I may have missed it but has Abigail Sophia posted once in this day phase?

Her last post was indeed just before EoD2.

Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:05 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:32 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:35 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:48 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm

But why the accusation against Moto?

Who do you think would be a better option?

Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.

if abigail is quiet and avoids conflict IRL, why is it suspicious if she also does that here? or did I misread this?

Believe it or not, that's just how predictable she is. And think about it, It's easy to read someone if you lived with them for over a decade. Even so, I still think she would be putting at least some effort if she was town.

Do you think her behavior is noticeably different from Kagemusha?

She hasn't mentioned anything about her stay away play style back then, so I didn't know weather she was just being inactive or if she was actually trying to figure anything out.

Actually, does anyone remember if she was town that game? Because if so, then historically speaking, that would make me wrong about her potentially having different actions depending on alignment.

She was indeed town, albeit a PR. Granted, it's pretty much guaranteed that everybody is a PR here

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:55 pm Leetic's back eh? And SVS is dead?






WTF

Interesting question there...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:49 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:42 pm How did leetic come back to life, and was S~V~S an exchange, or an unrelated regular nightkill?

Sounds like the Maf are curious what happened to their nightkill

And now you're gonna throw shade at someone who's basically doing the same thing. Seriously? And it's not like any of your other recent contributions have been great, so [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Someone remind me, has Syn done really anything to move the game forward?

With Porscha, it feels kinda like it's momentum from the previous phase and I'm a little skeptical of how little resistance there is right now (outside of the obligatory Brad). But then there's this post

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:32 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:30 am hi can someone give me the cliff's notes of the past 6 pages and tell me how bad I should feel

leetic kinda threw sus on me n you but I don't really have thoughts about his read on me cuz I dont think i've posted in a way that would make leetic's brain click into reading me correctly

Which feels like a cop-out, and I don't really like it.

Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:35 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:48 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.

But why the accusation against Moto?

Who do you think would be a better option?

Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.

if abigail is quiet and avoids conflict IRL, why is it suspicious if she also does that here? or did I misread this?

Believe it or not, that's just how predictable she is. And think about it, It's easy to read someone if you lived with them for over a decade. Even so, I still think she would be putting at least some effort if she was town.

Do you think her behavior is noticeably different from Kagemusha?

So, the numbers at the start of the game were 12-3-1-1. Assuming both our loses were town and ignoring recruitments, that would mean that we're at 10-3-1-1. With recruitments, we can potentially lose 3 townies per day/night cycle if we mislynch, which means we probably have to pull ourselves together quickly.

Recruiting is a difficult mechanic to balance. If I can unrecruit one person, then there's nothing preventing them from leading a lynch on the recruiter. The claiming roles limit this somewhat, but not enough, as I'd likely be on their side and it'd be noticeable. The question becomes, what happens to the faction if the recruiter dies? Recruiting factions like cults are typically the biggest threats as they can quickly grow out of control if given a little leeway.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:16 pm Leetic, are you allowed to tell who you had BTSC with?

Are you going to save us from the recruited players?

Are you resurrected as a Thqanos recruit?

I'm not allowed to tell my actions or results. As for the third question, read my role PM.

It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

I'm cleared, so wolves have no reason to not nightkill me. I suppose that means that if I'm being kept alive after this point, that must mean my reads are off, although that contains quite a bit of WIFOM and could be influenced by interference from other roles. Come to think of it, I would make a good Loki target, as nobody in their right mind would think to lynch me anymore, though that couldn't have happened today.

I'm back, bitches! Keep in mind I'm in the awkward position of having my role be public knowledge but not being allowed to claim any actions or results, so please keep that in mind.

Well, it's over. Could vote AS for the slightest chance of self-pres, but no real point in that now. Just pressure all the people on my wagon tomorrow

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

Why not join us on Porscha? Your vote won't have an impact on a vanity wagon

If it won't have an impact why should I join? I honestly don't think you or Porscha are bad (then again I haven't been paying much attention to Porscha)

It's more likely to have an impact if you vote Porscha. If you and Simon both vote Porscha, we'll only be two votes behind. And if you think I'm town, you should vote for the counterwagon which is Porscha.

Simon wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:50 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

But that's my point, instead of trying to speculate anything, you're just trying to stay out of things. You're pretty much just taking the easy way out of everything, and now you have little to no information whatsoever. Quite disappointing I would say.

And why don't you vote? I heard the Porscha wagon was a good idea

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:50 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:47 pm Note that I have seen wolves perform stupid tunnels before, so that alone is not a reason to clear Brad

yeah but have you seen w!Brad perform a stupid tunnel? cause I've seen t!brad do it like not to be mean but a lot of times

As mentioned before, my experience with w!Brad is two games where we were in separate threads and one where he was the lazy head of a hydra.

Note that I have seen wolves perform stupid tunnels before, so that alone is not a reason to clear Brad

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:43 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

Why not join us on Porscha? Your vote won't have an impact on a vanity wagon

Simon, AS, and motobot seem to be in their own world. I suppose that's something the rest of you'll have to figure out

Who knows, maybe I'll be saved by Loki! Seems unlikely though

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

Not fond of Syn's willingness to throw shit around earlier but now just staying on a lame vanity wagon. I'd be surprised if my wagon was pure, but stranger things have happened.

Wolves are probably pretty comfortable right now.

Well, it seems I'm dead (this is one time where a CFD would be good actually). Just remember my legacy, Wilgy is town.

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm

motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:18 pm Also from my reread, I’m undecided on SVS. I get where she is coming from, but my eyebrow raised a few ties in rereading. Also undecided on LC. For now, I think they are both civvie, but with a grain of salt.

As for the moto suspicion, I’m just going to note that we don’t know if this game has a silencer. It’s possible he hasn’t posted at all this round is because he can’t. As silencing is usually a baddie power, I need to look back at who has mentioned him. As that seems suspish. (Wasn’t paying attention to who was saying it while reading, so honestly need to check that).

Silencing is something I'd announce as host, as I feel not doing so is bastard (especially if there re penalties for inactivity), though other hosts might do it differently. motobot doesn't seem like a particularly active player, so inactivity seems the more likely cause in any case.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:28 pm Like I'm legit pulling the fuck back Day 3 if we get Leetic out, especially if he flips mafia.

I want this vote so bad though, you have no idea.

Might want to change your plans, because spoiler alert I'm not gonna flip wolf. You can seek redemption, however, by getting off this bad tunnel.

I mean, I can see one perspective where Brad's hard tunneling could come from a towny perspective, although I can't truly confirm whether it's the case as well. Porscha's progression looks bad all around, and TSP seems decently towny here, so why not [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

So, things ain't looking good here, so I might have to converge for self-pres. I don't like the AS or sig wagons for reasons I've already expressed. S~V~S... eh. I have a tendency to be skeptical towards players that townread me in a thread climate that's very much against me, but the progression reads decently enough and I've used some of her tells as town before, so I cann see the mindset. So, besides Brad, that leaves... Porscha? I mean, a lot of her posts have been pretty dismissive, and she was hedging on me for a while until suddenly changing her mind simply due to a Brad post, and her vote on Wilgy wasn't impressive either. So yeah, I would not be opposed to a vote there.