They were the one who made the TSP wagon stronger than the DizzyMade one at EoD2. It's a bit hard for me to believe a world where Rondo is a wolf and Made is town. But then again, the vote is probably not enough towncred at this point.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:18 pm Stop tap dancing around Rondo and vote them everyone keeps calling the guy suspicious but nobody wants to vote there
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:20 pm
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:15 pm
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The game on FFR I mentioned was difficult to solve because everyone was wolfy. This game is hard to solve because everyone is towny; I have at least a decent reason to consider most people town here. It will probably take some reevaluating and questioning previous assumptions to get to the right answer.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:42 am
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It would be cool if someone from the other thread could clarify the Bereft situation (and the Delta situation, and the who Windward targetted N2 situation, etc.) But we're at the point in the game where we can't be reasonably sure that other people will still come to this thread.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:38 am
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It does change my target, which can prevent me from investigating the killer. Bus driving the killer with someone unlikely to be roleblocked/tracked actually protects them from both of these roles, although I suppose the tracker getting a solid result anyway is compensation for this.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:36 am
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We have one flipped town PR and one flipped wolf PR, and my PR claim is fairly accepted. You'd be the fourth.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:34 amhave i miscounted? who tf is our forth pr?
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:33 am
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If the wolves only have one PR, that'd be pretty balanced; your word is the only evidence that a fourth PR is in play. Although we don't know enough about the wolves' roles in general to make a firm conclusion either way.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:31 am
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They thought they saw a PR soft, his reads were better than everyone else's, his reads were worse than everyone else's (to throw town off the scent), wolves know something about the setup we don't, someone has bad meta experience with Bereft, etc. There are plenty of reasons why it may have happened.Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:28 amI don't know what bereft flipped. I don't see any world or team where wolves intentionally nk bereft though.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:21 amBereft flipped… not wolf presumably, so does that affect your read of Made/Bereft?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:17 amBecause atp it was clear that it was made or pyxxy and I townread pyxxy more, and wanted to solve made/bereft.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:12 amso he didn’t feel like making wolfy posts but you were begging us to vote him, because?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:11 amYes. What's your point.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:07 amweren’t you the one that was hard pushing him at EoD?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:39 am I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.
I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.
Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:29 am
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That assumes a wolf blocker, we still don't know what Windward's N2 target was. Plus, there is a logic to claiming those targets: it's reasonable to assume a doctor hadn't visited them, nor were they likely to be targets of roleblocks or investigative roles. Plus, even if your claim is real it doesn't mean you're town.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:26 amyep, and when i claimed knowing you couldn’t have possibly tracked me, i picked those very 2 targets because i was gonna look villageryleetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:24 am I mean, isn't it convenient that ted claimed to visit (or attempt to visit) the two nightkill targets? "Watcher but can't watch kills" seems like one of the easiest fakeclaims for wolves to pull off, and it's a little weird that Watcher would have that clause but Tracker doesn't (even if Watcher is quite a bit more powerful).
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:26 am
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I thought Ranmilia said that was a fakeclaim?tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:24 amincorrect, we know jack is a cop, which is better than both our investigative roles here combinedMade wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:21 am I dont think we have enough information to do game balance pr role analysis. for all we know the other thread is mountainous.
we can weigh the risk of mischopping a claimed powerrole, but the ration of pr being a reason why someone is scum/town feels a step too far
well maybe that’s a stretch but still
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:24 am
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I mean, isn't it convenient that ted claimed to visit (or attempt to visit) the two nightkill targets? "Watcher but can't watch kills" seems like one of the easiest fakeclaims for wolves to pull off, and it's a little weird that Watcher would have that clause but Tracker doesn't (even if Watcher is quite a bit more powerful).
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:21 am
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Bereft flipped… not wolf presumably, so does that affect your read of Made/Bereft?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:17 amBecause atp it was clear that it was made or pyxxy and I townread pyxxy more, and wanted to solve made/bereft.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:12 amso he didn’t feel like making wolfy posts but you were begging us to vote him, because?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:11 amYes. What's your point.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:07 amweren’t you the one that was hard pushing him at EoD?Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:39 am I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.
I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.
Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:19 am
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Why didn't you mention being roleblocked?tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:17 amyeah well you have wwa to thank for that /shrugleetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:16 am Like, he's a PR and that's cool and all, but he doesn't have to be a town PR. Plus, none of his claims could be verified, while I could at least have some corroboration from Bereft (RIP) and Abby. Also, the fact that he didn't mention being roleblocked D1 is perhaps another point against him.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:18 am
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Wolf PRs are a thing, Einstein. And beyond your PR claim, your record in this game isn't exactly impressive.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:16 am
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Like, he's a PR and that's cool and all, but he doesn't have to be a town PR. Plus, none of his claims could be verified, while I could at least have some corroboration from Bereft (RIP) and Abby. Also, the fact that he didn't mention being roleblocked D1 is perhaps another point against him.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:14 am
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The thing is, if Made is town it does eliminate a lot of the seemingly viable pairings. Guess it's time to add tedxtr back to the POE
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:12 am
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Have you ever seen a reaction test before? Whether or not they believe the claim, whether they fight back or shut down, etc. Although Gira made me end it early, I would have liked to try it on at least one more.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:09 am
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I don't know, but we only have a sample size of two PR flips. And what reaction would I expect to get out of Abby here?tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:08 amidk. why would there be 2 roles that are 2 shot and the tracker is 3 shot?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:05 amWolves can kill ITPs just as well as they can kill town. I mean, Bereft was basically phoning it in yesterday, it's not hard to believe he's unalignedtedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:03 am bereft is a likely villager, idc that he’s not flipped
wolves have a kill every night, guise!
my guess as to why him and why he’s not flipped is to keep cred alive in the deep people
im not killing leetic / made, leetic is a likely villa PR but i really don’t buy he tracked abi here
And what reason would I have to lie about my Abby result?
for the same reason you lied about gira / made
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:05 am
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Wolves can kill ITPs just as well as they can kill town. I mean, Bereft was basically phoning it in yesterday, it's not hard to believe he's unalignedtedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:03 am bereft is a likely villager, idc that he’s not flipped
wolves have a kill every night, guise!
my guess as to why him and why he’s not flipped is to keep cred alive in the deep people
im not killing leetic / made, leetic is a likely villa PR but i really don’t buy he tracked abi here
And what reason would I have to lie about my Abby result?
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:04 am
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Although of course, a big reason why I didn't track Made was because even if they're a wolf they're unlikely to submit the kill anyway
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 am
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I at least think that Made's reaction confirms that he wasn't the person to make the Bereft kill; if he was he would have been taken aback at least slightly
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:57 am
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Also, Abby seeming to believe/jump on my "result" on Made is… something I guess
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:53 am
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But yeah, I really did have a third tracker shot and used in on Abby. Wanted to make the most of it I guess
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:52 am
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Made's reaction looks decent. Gira was a no sell.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:52 am
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Okay, real target was Abby, who visited nobody. I wanted to wait a bit to see if she would claim anything that contradicted my tracker result. [VOTE:
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:50 am
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:49 am
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:48 am
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- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:47 am
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Anyway, time to come clean. I actually had a third tracker shot, which I didn't claim for what should be obvious reasons. Now @Made, riddle me this: what did I catch you doing at Bereft's last night?
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:45 am
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The Bereft kill does make me a little wary of a deepwolf, as it leaves me as the "obvious" nightkill alive and thus allows someone else to more easily slip into LyLo. Then again, maybe my reads just sucked at EoD.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:38 am
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I think it was pretty obvious before that.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:38 amNah that would be boringleetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:35 amSo are you just gonna rescind the claim?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am neither is it why I've town read Ran or Rondo for most of the game.
I think I've made it pretty obvious the claim was fake when I said I'm no longer confident my town core is pure don't you think
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:35 am
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So are you just gonna rescind the claim?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am neither is it why I've town read Ran or Rondo for most of the game.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:26 am
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And how do you know that?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:24 amThat wasn't a janitorleetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:18 amIf the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a wasteGira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:42 amit's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling
i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:25 am
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Anyway, I am pretty dumbfounded by that kill when the wolves' other kills have been fairly predictable; I would have expected me to go down, or at least Ranmilia if they want to get rid of Jack. The fact that Abby wasn't a target suggests that they didn't believe her claim, or maybe the wolf blocker was still in play.
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:18 am
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If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a wasteGira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:42 amit's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling
i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible
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I feel like you'd know about Abby's claim if it was realPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:03 amwhat have I posted that sounds incredulous?
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ITP is betterRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:35 pmwhy not just say 3p?leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:33 pmIndependent/Third PartyRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:32 pmWhat is an ITP?
How?
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:34 pm
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Maybe the wolves knew something about Bereft's role that we don't?
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:33 pm
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Independent/Third PartyRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:32 pmWhat is an ITP?
How?
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:26 pm
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It would be awesome if Bereft was a wolf who somehow died, but for some reason I don't think that's very likely
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- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:13 pm
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Although given that we are getting to the point that we would lose if we mislynch and hadn't killed TSP, I would be surprised if the thread merge or some other change to the status quo wasn't happening soon.
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:11 pm
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So it's likely 5-2 now, as LyLo wasn't announced, but the presence of a potential ITP may mean things are more complicated. At least I can now square Bereft's good looking TSP vote with the fact that he didn't really feel towny at all
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:09 pm
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Anyway, whatever they are Bereft has a partner as otherwise he'd be removed from the game, so maybe he'll come clean in the other thread.
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:04 pm
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Or do we have a janitor?
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:02 pm
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So if Bereft an ITP?