The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:17 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
I better not point out the inconsistency of the fact that my partner was pushing me with a lame vote instead of joining me on the other 5 wagons I was pushing that would have brought Sig into a tie with anyone else and give him a chance to rand clear when they tried their best to save Sig. That would be game throwing So I will distract everyone with the faclon assessment

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:46 pm Mac appears towny

Scotty appears pockety
Clearing Mac and making scotty look bad. Good help for me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:55 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine
Unfortunately voting my partner leetic, gotta go

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:56 pm Wary of Scotty

Sus of Rondo & Robyn
Creating a wifom of me/Robyn/Scotty one of which is low hanging fruit town. I wont say which

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:57 pm Does anyone else see what LCs been saying about porscha?

Feels like a mountain of a molehill, but perhaps I'm missing something
A quick post of my other partner LC and clearing porscha.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:29 am If Mac is a wolf, Rondo and leetic are easy teammates

Why is town Mac going so hard to get MKd N1?
Definitly didnt catch the whole wolf team right here. Look away

[VOTE: Leetic ] aubergine

Better push leetic on second thought. When they dont die later it will look good for me, or when I flip it will look good for them
Still doing this shit, I see. You don't have a post restriction, there is no pro-town reason for you to act this way. Why do you think I'd put myself through an annoying post restriction?
Its good distancing to get in a fight with a partner so I will point out the fact that they have ignored the main point of my post and that you dont need to say anything to vote to make a wagon greater or equal to sig instead of lamely posting inarticulate songs and then saying you are IC for it.

I was perfectly fine with lynching you (and still am if we're being honest) and the votes were so split that it was hard to tell where the wagons would go after I went to bed, plus I wasn't a fan of most of the wagons anyway. At least I didn't make a big show of having supposedly always opposed the sig wagon despite voting for it. I did what I could to push your wagon, you try communicating when all you can talk about is Jesus's birth and beating up a mall Santa.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
I better not point out the inconsistency of the fact that my partner was pushing me with a lame vote instead of joining me on the other 5 wagons I was pushing that would have brought Sig into a tie with anyone else and give him a chance to rand clear when they tried their best to save Sig. That would be game throwing So I will distract everyone with the faclon assessment

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:46 pm Mac appears towny

Scotty appears pockety
Clearing Mac and making scotty look bad. Good help for me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:55 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine
Unfortunately voting my partner leetic, gotta go

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:56 pm Wary of Scotty

Sus of Rondo & Robyn
Creating a wifom of me/Robyn/Scotty one of which is low hanging fruit town. I wont say which

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:57 pm Does anyone else see what LCs been saying about porscha?

Feels like a mountain of a molehill, but perhaps I'm missing something
A quick post of my other partner LC and clearing porscha.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:29 am If Mac is a wolf, Rondo and leetic are easy teammates

Why is town Mac going so hard to get MKd N1?
Definitly didnt catch the whole wolf team right here. Look away

[VOTE: Leetic ] aubergine

Better push leetic on second thought. When they dont die later it will look good for me, or when I flip it will look good for them

Still doing this shit, I see. You don't have a post restriction, there is no pro-town reason for you to act this way. Why do you think I'd put myself through an annoying post restriction?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:00 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:51 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think
Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?
Did…did you read Ted Lasso at all?

I insanified myself for shits and as soon as I started doing it I immediately regretted it due to the painstaking editing I had to do in each post. And I didn’t just want to post a few times and dip. I had to be believable.

In any case, you were most definitely stuck singing as per the host post, so an ability was most definitely used on you.

And I jived with you on reads. So
Believe me, I am not that kind of player. I got silenced by scum in one game and they used that as an opportunity to get me mislynched. I'm a vocal player and would never put myself through that shit willingly, it is beyond obnoxious and you'll only know it if you've been through it. Wolves obviously did it to shut me up. Perhaps they were worried about one of my reads?
what were your n0 reads

Mac, tutuu, Porscha town, DM, Abby, RDB wolf

If falcon was really killed due to his reads, it would have to be because they were closer than anyone else's. It may be useful to see where falcon's reads differed from people who otherwise had similar reads. Still, I'd probably have to reread the game for that.

Let's look into the standard reasons why townies are nightkilled and see if any of them explain falcon's death:

He was just too towny: Probably not. I mean, nobody seems to have strongly suspected him, but that's largely because nobody was really talking about him in the first place. I don't think wolves reach this conclusion without even trying to pressure him.
He was too vocal/had high WIM: LOL.
His reads were good: Certainly a possibility, we've already gone over who that would indict.
Wolves wanted to throw town off: Also a possibility, as falcon had strong suspicions yet didn't really elaborate on them, which could allow the wolves to construct their own narrative here.
Wolves thought they saw a softclaim: I mean, I saw nothing, but it wouldn't be the first time that wolves saw a softclaim that didn't exist.
Wolves were worried about falcon based on him knowing the wolves well/his performance in previous games: Someone else would probably be a better judge over whether this is a possibility than me.

Another question is, if the falcon kill was unexpected than who would be the expected kill? Besides Mac getting Manti'd, I don't think anyone else has been suggested as a possibility, so a falcon kill at the end of the day might not be that much weirder than some of the other options

This is like self-voting, but somehow even more performative and fake

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:01 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:00 pm Hang me for it if you must.
If you want it, how could I refuse? I thought you wanted to win games
Not so bad as to play annoying ones with people going out of their way to make me feel bad.

Lame

Also, does anyone else have an antitown ability (as town)?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:00 pm Hang me for it if you must.

If you want it, how could I refuse? I thought you wanted to win games

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:58 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:49 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:09 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:38 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:19 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:12 pm

Or not, apparently

Still, I'm glad I wasn't hit with another post restriction
I wonder who will show up with a delightful affliction?
Nobody I targeted the dead cause I'm dumb
I don't know. It would make sense that the same person who hit me with the post restriction silenced Scotty, as there was no silencing D1
Nope
Assuming you're telling the truth (press x to doubt), why falcon of all people?
I targeted sig lol

Is that even possible? Or do you target people during the day

Also, why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:57 pm I really don't feel like responding to the level of hostility in your tone. If you want to speak to me, speak to me.

You do know what game we're playing, right? Lame

Abby still stinks, but I'm not sure why wolf!Abby would openly claim such an antitown ability. Granted, this is Abby, but still

Anyway, falcon kill does look bad for Mac. Number one, because falcon suspected Mac, and number two because Mac himself wasn't nightkilled ("The Manti Rule")

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:35 pm Let's say the relatively consensus poe here is something like pyxxy/abigail/scotty. I personally don't have Scotty as mafia but let's say we arrive at a position where he's the third most sussed slot for arguments sake (which he might be).

If we as a town are content to say it's unlikely that there are 0 mafia in this group, which I am due to how many townreads I have outside of it.

We limit the amount of dialogue speculating outside of it and focus our energy on figuring out who to chop from within it, we serve a few purposes.

1. The town miselim is given enough opportunity to project themselves to avoid a shrug chop.
2. The Mafia are forced to pick a side in a way that can result in them bussing, or outing themselves choosing not to bus.
3. The town outside of it reveal themselves via solid teamwork and progressing the game state along a town agenda.
4. The Mafia get boxed out.
5. It prevents a lot of town on town posturing/ego warfare.

I try to force this paradigm in every town game I play and it's why my town winrate over the past couple of years is not just high but so so many of the wins are rapid.

In the games in which I am proven to have 0 wolves in the POE I end up operating within, mafia usually make the mistake of keeping me alive and I'm capable of being able to reevaluate eventually once it's discovered that the d1 poe was pure.

The caveat is the town wintate and the "rapidness" directly correlates with how hard the town try as a group and how committed they are to simply being townie. The more bad townplay. Low efforting. Tinfoiling. Open wolfing as town, that town exhibit, the longer the wolves survive and closer to parity they end up.

So it's important for poe clamped town to keep their neck above the water and keep trying to be town. It's also important that the day 1 poe gets resolved quickly so town PR play is very important ie. vigs need to shoot d1 cws and investigatives need to get green checks on possible miselims etc.

When towns come together in this manner town generally just absolutely steamrolls almost any mafia team except pure "we lost the game at rand" level mafia teams.

Where the hell did you get that this was "consensus" PoE, and why the hell did you vote outside that?

It's a supreme lack of "WIM", whatever that means

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:49 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:48 pm You're supposed to be this amazingly townie player, I'm seeing nothing amazingly townie right now.

Seriously, the most excited I've seen you is before the game even really began. What the hell are you even doing?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:09 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:38 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:19 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:12 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:05 pm So, we got sig's role description late, I assume it was an oversight.

But we're going with janitored nightkills, in the classic LP style?
Yep oversight bc splints was unsure.
Also yep bc og shit rocks!
Or not, apparently

Still, I'm glad I wasn't hit with another post restriction
I wonder who will show up with a delightful affliction?
Nobody I targeted the dead cause I'm dumb
I don't know. It would make sense that the same person who hit me with the post restriction silenced Scotty, as there was no silencing D1
Nope

Assuming you're telling the truth (press x to doubt), why falcon of all people?

You're supposed to be this amazingly townie player, I'm seeing nothing amazingly townie right now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:02 pm Falcon suspected leetic, Porscha, Rondo, and one could say, Mac most of all. So his death is probably either because of that, or to try and make us look at those players. How do you tell the difference?
I don't have the desire to fight this.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine Lame

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:19 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:12 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:05 pm So, we got sig's role description late, I assume it was an oversight.

But we're going with janitored nightkills, in the classic LP style?
Yep oversight bc splints was unsure.
Also yep bc og shit rocks!
Or not, apparently

Still, I'm glad I wasn't hit with another post restriction
I wonder who will show up with a delightful affliction?
Nobody I targeted the dead cause I'm dumb

I don't know. It would make sense that the same person who hit me with the post restriction silenced Scotty, as there was no silencing D1

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:21 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:20 pm Would wolf!Scotty really silence himself after saying he is the kind of player who would do so?
If that's the case, then his dedication to the ruse, by still posting at first, has fully tricked me.

Yeah, given that he still posted, he doesn't seem to have realized he was afflicted. Either way, I don't vote silenced/post restricted players out of principle in the absence of hard mechanical evidence

Would wolf!Scotty really silence himself after saying he is the kind of player who would do so?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:05 pm So, we got sig's role description late, I assume it was an oversight.

But we're going with janitored nightkills, in the classic LP style?
Yep oversight bc splints was unsure.
Also yep bc og shit rocks!

Or not, apparently

Still, I'm glad I wasn't hit with another post restriction

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:05 pm So, we got sig's role description late, I assume it was an oversight.

But we're going with janitored nightkills, in the classic LP style?

It's possible there is a coroner in play

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:05 am leetic can u post a readsllist

I will probably do so at some time tomorrow. A lot of my process involves interacting with other people, something I really couldn't do a whole lot of D1, and since it's Christmas I was very busy for the last couple of days.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:05 am and signup to game of champions

I have no victories on this site this year. Or on any site, for that matter, towns in 2023 just suck.

Anyway, I'll post a short cypher in case I get afflicted with this shit again:

Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer: town
Frosty the snowman: null/I don't know
Mr. Grinch: wolf
One-horse open sleigh: vote this person
Rusty Chevrolet: avoid this wagon
Lovely weather for a sleigh ride: I agree
Let it snow: I disagree
Oh, Santa why?: Elaborate more
Haul out the holly: Contribute more

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:21 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:13 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think
Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?
Wolf perspective: I can spend the day barely participating and then come back later to complain about it and get sweet Town cred.

Far-fetched?

It's def not as clearing as they think

Do you mind actually explaining your reasons for voting me? I'm not a fan of how you seem to be picking at things in a very detached way.

Actually, that's the kind of shit you policy, because you either have a wolf or a townie with an incredibly dissruptive ability. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not a fan of policies ("vote to be right", I always say) but silencers and similar roles are disruptive enough to make an exception. Besides, Abby has not exactly given me any signals that she's town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:18 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:38 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:59 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored
Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.
Oh yeah that was me
Who's getting it tonight? And what's the curse this time?

Assuming she's not joking? That is a very scumsided ability. Is it compulsive or something, because otherwise there is no reason for town to do it. Then again, this is Abby we're talking about

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 8:15 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:51 pm Anyway, I do think the way robyn has approached my slot was towny. Wolves likely targeted me with the post restriction to shut me up, and robyn was the only one who seemingly tried to put effort into deciphering what I was saying and allowing me to participate. They weren't great at it, but props for trying!
nah ur mafia

I know you are but what am I?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored

Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think
Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?
Did…did you read Ted Lasso at all?

I insanified myself for shits and as soon as I started doing it I immediately regretted it due to the painstaking editing I had to do in each post. And I didn’t just want to post a few times and dip. I had to be believable.

In any case, you were most definitely stuck singing as per the host post, so an ability was most definitely used on you.

And I jived with you on reads. So

Believe me, I am not that kind of player. I got silenced by scum in one game and they used that as an opportunity to get me mislynched. I'm a vocal player and would never put myself through that shit willingly, it is beyond obnoxious and you'll only know it if you've been through it. Wolves obviously did it to shut me up. Perhaps they were worried about one of my reads?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think

Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?

Anyway, I do think the way robyn has approached my slot was towny. Wolves likely targeted me with the post restriction to shut me up, and robyn was the only one who seemingly tried to put effort into deciphering what I was saying and allowing me to participate. They weren't great at it, but props for trying!

So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:46 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:17 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:44 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 pm Wow that was a terrible chop. I actually had no idea eod was going to be like 2am Xmas morning but my vote on Sig was not intentional.

@falcon45ca how in gods green Earth is a post describing the merits of common POE play "abhorrent" and worthy of being voted? That's astonishing to me.
Lame
Literally townread the dude. I had my vote on him to try to pressure him into posting and/or generate dialogue.

How is this lame?
He had like three votes on him with no other viable wagons. Also, why "pressure" someone unlikely to show? Pressuring only works on people who are actually, you know, playing the game. It seems like a way to dodge responsibility with "see, I totally knew this was a bad idea, pay no attention to the fact I never brought this up before!"
And how was I supposed to know he was unlikely to show?
I don't know, maybe the fact that he hadn't posted in over 24 hours?
That was not the case when I voted him, nor does someone not posting in 24 hours make it obvious he's not going to show up past that point.

Are you accusing me of being mafia with this or what?

You left it parked for much longer than that. It is wolfy because it seems like a way to distance yourself from an unpopular lynch after you didn't do anything to prevent that from happening.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:17 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:44 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 pm Wow that was a terrible chop. I actually had no idea eod was going to be like 2am Xmas morning but my vote on Sig was not intentional.

@falcon45ca how in gods green Earth is a post describing the merits of common POE play "abhorrent" and worthy of being voted? That's astonishing to me.
Lame
Literally townread the dude. I had my vote on him to try to pressure him into posting and/or generate dialogue.

How is this lame?
He had like three votes on him with no other viable wagons. Also, why "pressure" someone unlikely to show? Pressuring only works on people who are actually, you know, playing the game. It seems like a way to dodge responsibility with "see, I totally knew this was a bad idea, pay no attention to the fact I never brought this up before!"
And how was I supposed to know he was unlikely to show?

I don't know, maybe the fact that he hadn't posted in over 24 hours?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:44 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 pm Wow that was a terrible chop. I actually had no idea eod was going to be like 2am Xmas morning but my vote on Sig was not intentional.

@falcon45ca how in gods green Earth is a post describing the merits of common POE play "abhorrent" and worthy of being voted? That's astonishing to me.
Lame
Literally townread the dude. I had my vote on him to try to pressure him into posting and/or generate dialogue.

How is this lame?

He had like three votes on him with no other viable wagons. Also, why "pressure" someone unlikely to show? Pressuring only works on people who are actually, you know, playing the game. It seems like a way to dodge responsibility with "see, I totally knew this was a bad idea, pay no attention to the fact I never brought this up before!"

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 pm Wow that was a terrible chop. I actually had no idea eod was going to be like 2am Xmas morning but my vote on Sig was not intentional.

@falcon45ca how in gods green Earth is a post describing the merits of common POE play "abhorrent" and worthy of being voted? That's astonishing to me.

Lame

Anyway, the sig lynch was not a good idea, as you usually don't want to go after someone who can't respond D1, you want to be able to pressure people and push the person with the largest wagon to claim. I tried my best, but there was little that I could do with the post restriction.

Finally, I am free from this stupid post restriction! That was painful

Whoever did this is to me is bad and should feel bad. First order of business is to find them so I can kick their ass

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:53 am @Porscha I would love for this ridiculous argument to be over, but I honestly can't until you understand.

YOU are the one who accused ME of overreacting. I didn't bring up the idea.

You literally said that I overreacted to Rondo's post. Please read the spoilered response I gave to falcon, and then read it again even more slowly, because I can't handle this.

Don't be a jerk, it's Christmas

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:55 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine

War is over, if you want it

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:59 pm That said about sbpc I kind of townread sig a little and don't want to vote serhal out cuz new player plus an angleshooty host read so maybe not
I wouldn't vote Serhal today, both for politeness, and because I don't suspect them.

I wouldn't vote sig today because it's been a while, unless he just howled at the moon somehow. Then I'd cast the vote sadly.
What's your thoughts on this solve.

1 between Scotty/Pyxxy
1-2 between Abigail/Falcon
If any left over 1 between Rondo/Porscha
Nice wifom and distancing. I will point out that you are taking over the town leader position without anyone putting you there for later.

It doesn't matter how sincere it is nor how heart felt the spirit, sentiment will not endear it

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:59 pm That said about sbpc I kind of townread sig a little and don't want to vote serhal out cuz new player plus an angleshooty host read so maybe not
I wouldn't vote Serhal today, both for politeness, and because I don't suspect them.

I wouldn't vote sig today because it's been a while, unless he just howled at the moon somehow. Then I'd cast the vote sadly.
Woah I gotta keep looking towny here and push my partner in an environment where multiple people have said they wont chop a new person day one.

Do you actually have any reason to not suspect them or something or other to make Longcon look bad in a way that doesnt unpair us

He's mister icicle, he's mister ten below!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:14 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:02 pm Which is to say Abigail/Falcon/Pyxxy. Which is to say my initial POE Sans Scotty sub Falcon.

But I also think Falcon is townier and isn't really a sbpc wolf proposition as he just is that way as town as well.

And Scotty pushing Pyxxy and having sus there feels probably not w/w and also probably if Scotty is town he's right cuz I agree and stuff so it's probably w/t.

Falcon voting Rondo is a bad look cuz Rondo is the sort of slot wolves would feel comfortable hiding their vote on because of how he's playing. And town especially Falcon know it's at best entirely rand.

And Abigail just feels like someone that pulled a mafia rand and is in a team/wolf chat that's radio silent and has no motivation to even try to look townie.
I am town but I do understand why you think that
If you are town you probably have pretty good townreads. Got any?
I... do not but I've barely comprehended anything I've read

I will try after sleep

Run run Rudolph!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:02 pm Which is to say Abigail/Falcon/Pyxxy. Which is to say my initial POE Sans Scotty sub Falcon.

But I also think Falcon is townier and isn't really a sbpc wolf proposition as he just is that way as town as well.

And Scotty pushing Pyxxy and having sus there feels probably not w/w and also probably if Scotty is town he's right cuz I agree and stuff so it's probably w/t.

Falcon voting Rondo is a bad look cuz Rondo is the sort of slot wolves would feel comfortable hiding their vote on because of how he's playing. And town especially Falcon know it's at best entirely rand.

And Abigail just feels like someone that pulled a mafia rand and is in a team/wolf chat that's radio silent and has no motivation to even try to look townie.
I am town but I do understand why you think that

Oh Santa why? My my my my my my

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:37 pm @falcon45ca why are you pretending like you can read Rondo well enough to vote him out d1 while his wifoming?

What child is this?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:34 pm I'm bored

Climb down the chimney. Turn on the brightest string of lights I've ever seen. Slice up the fruit cake. It's time we've hung some tinsel on the evergreen bough.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:26 pm rondo's in this game?

Where are you Christmas?

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