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by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:09 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:08 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:59 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?
No, two are true and one is false
K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.
We know from my previous statements that there has to be two or three mafia
If you can clarify whether it means has ever been voted or was being voted at eod that'd be nice.
It used the word "yet" and had no mention of EoD, so take that as you will
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:06 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:59 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?
No, two are true and one is false
K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.
We know from my previous statements that there has to be two or three mafia
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:04 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:01 pm I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can
Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.
My role is confirmable by the mod posts, I would be CC'd by someone if I was lying
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:57 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?
No, two are true and one is false
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:55 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:47 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

I was blocked apparently
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:01 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Night 2

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:00 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:59 am @leetic apologies, remind me what "double targeting" (might?) mean(s)?
What I assume it means is targeting the same person twice in a row or rargeting two people with one avility, but you might want to ask someone more familiar with the hosts
by leetic
Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:45 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:21 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:18 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:40 pm Scotty is just town
Perfect kill candidate tbh

At least I’ve got the night lol
yeah I am gone because they dont want me forcing the vote on pyxxy / robyn or pyxxy / leetic tomorrow
Your vote needs to be one OVER the tie in order to be best info, no?
at minimum sure.

Any tied wagon gives me mech on the wagon I am on. If my wagon dies, wolf, if the other, town. Since myself and Sheral randed Scotty must be town
I don't see how you'd know the difference between a 2-way and a 3-way rand. That happens behind the scenes...?
I am not full outing my role just trust me. I am green and I have a green on scotty
This does go against my Oracle role that said that one person was found to be town, so two would go against that. It's possible that that was the lie, but that would mean we have a janitor and "double targeting"
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:51 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:47 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:38 pm That is to say Abbi N0 > Leetic (Song) N1 > Scotty (Silence)

when I see a song and a silence at the same time I will re-evaluate. But perhaps she switches between song and silence even/odd
Yeah but I just don't see the utility in partial claiming because it ultimately leads to their death. The alternatives of either not claiming, or full claiming, are both strictly a better play for Mafia Abigail than semi claiming and lying about their actions in a world where mafia wouldn't even be able to be certain someone wouldn't just out them off a track anyway.
Yeah but when has Abbi ever been accused of taking the strictly better path? She is like me, we just kinda vibe around towards what we want if its fun. But you could be right. Its not going to be helpful to speculate on
There is "vibe around towards what we want if it's fun" and there's "oops I'm needlessly outed now because I snap claimed a lie and Mac is a tracker who has caught me".

It's just so unlikely that Abi is lying about this that arguments to the contrary while slightly plausible should be set aside in favour of the cold hand of logic. As that is how town wins at mafia. So says the Oracle.
I'm the Oracle here

I agree that speculating is pointless when we'll likely get more information soon anyway, but Abby does stupid shit as town all the time
As town, but the argument is that Abi is mafia no?

Ultimately we are trying to determine alignment not propensity to do dumb shit. The key point of everything I'm saying is that it all points at town Abigail.
Not necessarily, if Abby is lying, it's more likely that she's town. Or she could be deflecting from a partner, but IDK
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 pm Maybe I should check you tonight, Mac.
If you must.
Mac, I am not trying to throw sus on you here but it is a concern I have been playing around with. What are the odds that a passive block is a mafia role? I dont mean in this game but generally as setup rands?
Ascetic without any abilities is typically a wolf role. Town ascetics typically have secondary abilities, as the point is usually that they can't e.g. be protected by a Doctor. It typically depends on what other roles are in the setup though.
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:49 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:47 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:38 pm That is to say Abbi N0 > Leetic (Song) N1 > Scotty (Silence)

when I see a song and a silence at the same time I will re-evaluate. But perhaps she switches between song and silence even/odd
Yeah but I just don't see the utility in partial claiming because it ultimately leads to their death. The alternatives of either not claiming, or full claiming, are both strictly a better play for Mafia Abigail than semi claiming and lying about their actions in a world where mafia wouldn't even be able to be certain someone wouldn't just out them off a track anyway.
Yeah but when has Abbi ever been accused of taking the strictly better path? She is like me, we just kinda vibe around towards what we want if its fun. But you could be right. Its not going to be helpful to speculate on
There is "vibe around towards what we want if it's fun" and there's "oops I'm needlessly outed now because I snap claimed a lie and Mac is a tracker who has caught me".

It's just so unlikely that Abi is lying about this that arguments to the contrary while slightly plausible should be set aside in favour of the cold hand of logic. As that is how town wins at mafia. So says the Oracle.
I'm the Oracle here

I agree that speculating is pointless when we'll likely get more information soon anyway, but Abby does stupid shit as town all the time
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:26 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:25 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:22 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:20 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:38 am
leetic wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:59 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored
Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.
Oh yeah that was me
Yeah, right here. How was that unprompted?
Unprompted is the wrong word. Unnecessary better word.
You do know this is Abby we're talking about. The same person who faked a red check on me and held it for half the phase. Lying about this for whatever stupid reason is completely in-character for her

Also, you're moving the goalposts here
Oh so you're saying she can be lying as town or mafia and someone else is the curse/silencer entirely?

Eh seems pointless. False claiming a red is less pointless because it applies pressure. False claiming someone else's cursing role here makes no sense and is some seriously wild speculation.
Abby doesn't do things that make sense
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:25 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:20 pm Leetic: Abigail might be silencer and curser
Mac: Probably not for multiple reasons
Leetic: Maybe Abigail has been bullshitting all along and the silencer is someone else?

I'm confused. Are you claiming you were never cursed?
Also, when have I said the first statement? I have always expressed skepticism over Abby's claim; the silencer and post restrictor being the same person doesn't mean it's Abby, that would be a fallacy
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:23 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:22 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:20 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:38 am
leetic wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:59 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored
Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.
Oh yeah that was me
Yeah, right here. How was that unprompted?
Unprompted is the wrong word. Unnecessary better word.
You do know this is Abby we're talking about. The same person who faked a red check on me and held it for half the phase. Lying about this for whatever stupid reason is completely in-character for her

Also, you're moving the goalposts here
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:20 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:38 am
leetic wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:59 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored
Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.
Oh yeah that was me
Yeah, right here. How was that unprompted?
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:19 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:18 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:08 pm I don't think it makes sense that Abigail is also the silencer like at all. That idea doesn't pass any kind of Occam's razor test because it means she invented a partial lie that she could get caught in extremely easily for essentially no reason and that's just not how mafia operate.
The real possibility is that Abbie has been bullshitting us all along and the real silencer is someone else (presumably a wolf). I mean, it's Abbie.
Huh?

Abigail unprompted claimed the curse on you, what possible mafia agenda is there to that?

You keep getting tunneled on stuff that's not wolfy.
It wasn't exactly unprompted, I brought up the possibility of Abby having targeted me to piss me off and then she said "yeah that happened"
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:17 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:08 pm I don't think it makes sense that Abigail is also the silencer like at all. That idea doesn't pass any kind of Occam's razor test because it means she invented a partial lie that she could get caught in extremely easily for essentially no reason and that's just not how mafia operate.
The real possibility is that Abbie has been bullshitting us all along and the real silencer is someone else (presumably a wolf). I mean, it's Abbie.
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:01 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:53 pm Abigail claimed to have post cursed Falcon n1 right? Hence why there was nobody caroling?

And there was no silence on d1, which means that the silencer role failed on n0. Which means they targeted me n0 probably lol.

Which is to say that the silencer and post curse are different roles and the silencer is the mafia one.
Possible, but it seems simpler to assume that they're both the same role. However, this will probably self-resolve depending on which powers get used tonight. (Still, if you have either of these powers and are town, it would be best for everyone if you don't use them!)
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:43 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

One thing I don't really believe about Abby's claim is would there really be a post restrictor and silencer in the dame game? That would effectively allow two town voices to be silenced, which would fuck up parity really bad; it would only remotely make sense in the case that we have only two wolves.
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Might as well claim my full ability, because I can't guarantee that I won't be mislynched D3 and I can't guarantee that I won't be targeted with a post restriction/silence D3, and I think my information is too important for town to lose.

Basically, every night I get three statements about the game, two are true and one is a lie, and I pick one to add to the SoD post. Basically, an Oracle variant, and I softed this role in my opening post.

For N0, the three statements were that there were two baddies, there were three baddies, and that town had no BTSC. As the first two statements are contradictory, the third had to be true, so I selected it.

For N1, I got my statements at 10:00 AM EST, only a couple hours before SoD. (I didn't get my statements for tonight yet, so it'll presumably happen at around the same time) They were that there is a janitor in the game, that one player was found to be town, and the statement about double targeting. I selected the second, as I thought that the first would self-resolve and I was unsure of the value of the third statement. If that is true, it would lend credence to LC's claim, as we have seen no counterclaims of a cleared townie. However, that depends on one of the other statements being false. While the hosts may have inadvertently confirmed the first as false, perhaps it will be more clear if we have a larger sample size of nightkill flips. That leaves the third to be proven/disproven.

I'll try to get the third set up here once it arrives.
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Does anyone know if "double targeting" was "trying" to happen this game? If so, that could clear a few things up
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:02 pm we are assuming 3 wolves right?
50% chance. Two is also possible
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Can someone list all the mechanical information we have so far? LC claimed investigative on RDB (green), Abby claimed post restrictor, sig is Roleblocker and Scotty claimed roleblocked if I remember correctly, Serhal is Vig and probably didn't use it on falcon, anything I'm missing?
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:00 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm Leetic showing up JUST after the yeet was very suspicious to me, as was tutuu's absence.
Maybe I just wasn't awake at the time of EoD? The times when I was online should confrim
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:24 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Long Con wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:23 pm
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us
Shame on me for expecting some basic game sense from y'all. I can't stay up all night
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:08 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:06 am
leetic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:24 am The question is would I drop the gimmick as town?
Yes. Hell, if you're town, it would be in your interest to not run the gimmick in the first place!
You really have no clue who I am.
A wolf?
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:00 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:05 pm Nah, Mac is not town. That post was wolfy, and he turnaround and "oopsie" on sig, post lynch, was not towny.
As someone who was also on Mac until not too long ago, that feels like the easiest possible reason for a vote you could have come up with. I don't feel a lot of conviction here
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:57 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:26 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:53 pm mac, how confident are you in rondo town, cause he did the exact same shit to me in severance as wolf, as in not defend me even though he could find me as town instantly, as town
I feel less equipped to reading him than everyone else here tbh cuz I haven't been on TS for a fairly long time so my read on him probably shouldn't over factor yours
Lame
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:55 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:24 am The question is would I drop the gimmick as town?
Yes. Hell, if you're town, it would be in your interest to not run the gimmick in the first place!
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:55 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Oh yeah, and Serhal is playing I guess. Didn't even realize
by leetic
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:54 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Yeah sure, I'm fine with [VOTE: RDB] aubergine, as the Mac wagon looks a little yucky right now even if I am still skeptical. Plus, if Abigail really is town and hit me with the restriction, then RDB's reaction to it is perhaps TMI
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:47 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Like, "a couple other players are townreading me" shouldn't be the first thing you use as a defense. Especially when others are wolfreading you; what exactly are you trying to say there?
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:46 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:32 am I'm confused how Leetic is so convinced I'm mafia if I'm obvious enough town for Abi and Tutuu to be townreading me still.

I think y'all should talk about it.

Same with you @Porscha and @robyn.
Yeah, 'cause pocketing isn't a thing. Hell, youcan pocket Abby by doing absolutely nothing. Your play this game has been lame, and you are not a player I associate with "lame" (aside from in Philo 2, but we both know what alignment you were there)
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:44 am
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Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:05 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:03 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:01 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:50 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:47 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:40 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:37 am

I could idle

I won't but I could

If you kill town me because you're a whiny little baby because I used my ability you have massive skill issue and should probably get good at mafia
If you wanna throw the game, be my guest, but there is absolutely no way to use that ability that's beneficial to town
You use the word throw in the stupidest contexts and I think it's just cause your bad at mafia tbh and have to throw around blame cause if you were introspective you'd have to admit you kill towns for weak reasons just because you don't like how they play
I'm so bad at mafia that I wouldn't use a role that deprives town of information, you got me. Do tell what possible benefit town could get from use of your role? "Because everyone's playstyle is valid" doesn't cut it
Well it's funny

And if I hit a wolf it's funnier

I enjoy funny

And fun

Because this is a fucking game
Whatever, but you don't have the right to tell others they're "bad at mafia" when you aren't even playing to win
Well I think your bad at mafia and so you policy anyone who does something you don't think is "correct" instead of reading them

So I'll probably say that tbh
If you're just going to play to be disruptive, what's the point of keeping you around? You're either a wolf or a townie playing against wincon and either way the town is better off without you
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:03 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:01 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:50 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:47 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:40 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:37 am
leetic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through
I could idle

I won't but I could

If you kill town me because you're a whiny little baby because I used my ability you have massive skill issue and should probably get good at mafia
If you wanna throw the game, be my guest, but there is absolutely no way to use that ability that's beneficial to town
You use the word throw in the stupidest contexts and I think it's just cause your bad at mafia tbh and have to throw around blame cause if you were introspective you'd have to admit you kill towns for weak reasons just because you don't like how they play
I'm so bad at mafia that I wouldn't use a role that deprives town of information, you got me. Do tell what possible benefit town could get from use of your role? "Because everyone's playstyle is valid" doesn't cut it
Well it's funny

And if I hit a wolf it's funnier

I enjoy funny

And fun

Because this is a fucking game
Whatever, but you don't have the right to tell others they're "bad at mafia" when you aren't even playing to win
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:50 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:47 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:40 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:37 am
leetic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through
I could idle

I won't but I could

If you kill town me because you're a whiny little baby because I used my ability you have massive skill issue and should probably get good at mafia
If you wanna throw the game, be my guest, but there is absolutely no way to use that ability that's beneficial to town
You use the word throw in the stupidest contexts and I think it's just cause your bad at mafia tbh and have to throw around blame cause if you were introspective you'd have to admit you kill towns for weak reasons just because you don't like how they play
I'm so bad at mafia that I wouldn't use a role that deprives town of information, you got me. Do tell what possible benefit town could get from use of your role? "Because everyone's playstyle is valid" doesn't cut it
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:48 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:47 am How is using an ability to silence yourself risking being modkilled
Posting after doing so is.
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:48 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

DarlingMonroe wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:14 am
leetic wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:27 am
pyxxy wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:28 pm scotty town
Long Con town
DM town

some other names

@Serhal do you like mech?

@tutuu what's your favorite flavour of jam?

@RondoDimBuckle I accidentally left scumchat can you let me back in? Mac is method acting our distancing and won't do it
Can you elaborate on DM? They've done basically nothing
hmm go through my posts this game, idk how its "nothing"
If posting gifs and asking what "FoL" means is "something", then sure
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:47 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

pyxxy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:41 am @Scotty when did you have time to post all that juicy information in your ISO

I literally feel like I saw none of it when catching up in the thread

wild

why did scum choose to kill falcon over you after you outed like that

I'm gonna stew on that
I mean, they (presumably) silenced Scotty? How is that really a question?
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:45 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
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Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

tutuu wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:40 am
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:49 pm I believe the silencing is separate? But then why no one silenced on Day 1?
Could it have been scotty? Since he said he got roleblocked
Doubtful. It's one thing to silence yourself, but it's another to *risk being modkilled* after silencing yourself. The sheer lack of awareness that would take would be truly exceptional.
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:40 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:37 am
leetic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through
I could idle

I won't but I could

If you kill town me because you're a whiny little baby because I used my ability you have massive skill issue and should probably get good at mafia
If you wanna throw the game, be my guest, but there is absolutely no way to use that ability that's beneficial to town
by leetic
Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:27 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

pyxxy wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:28 pm scotty town
Long Con town
DM town

some other names

@Serhal do you like mech?

@tutuu what's your favorite flavour of jam?

@RondoDimBuckle I accidentally left scumchat can you let me back in? Mac is method acting our distancing and won't do it
Can you elaborate on DM? They've done basically nothing
by leetic
Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:10 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Yeah, I don't like that because it seems to confirm much about the game and it just feels angleshoot-y to talk about. I'll just make a couple of observations:

- Upon sig's initial flip, alignment was revealed but falcon's was not.
- If nightkills are confirmed janitored, then that would suggest that vig kills/etc. aren't. But why would alignment be hidden if wolf kills were the only method of death, unless we're dealing with an ITP?

As I said, I have other reasons to question this but I won't reveal them.
by leetic
Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:02 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:01 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:00 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:57 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:57 pm i'm also confused on the flips since sig's ended up being revealed but** falcon's wasnt? right?
ebwop
It's likely a janitor kill. I suppose that means a coroner is still possible in this setup I guess but still no evidence one exists.
No, it's not. This is how nightkills are in this game.
I have reasons to doubt this is the case. That's all I'll say for now
by leetic
Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:00 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Porscha wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:57 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:57 pm i'm also confused on the flips since sig's ended up being revealed but** falcon's wasnt? right?
ebwop
It's likely a janitor kill. I suppose that means a coroner is still possible in this setup I guess but still no evidence one exists.
by leetic
Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Porscha wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:56 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through
for integrity's sake, I just want to confirm that if you had received such an ability as town, you would have simply never used it?
Yes. In fact, I had a vote silencing role as town in a previous game on this site and never used it. Still, if it's compulsive, I'd like to know, even then her use of the rule seems to be more motivated by a personal grudge than anything pro-town. Then again, I was widely townread, and maybe it's better to silence those than the people you want to sort out; still no excuse if it's not compulsive.
by leetic
Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End
Replies: 2642
Views: 1127020

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through

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