The Syndicate

Well played you all, Sorry I couldn't stick through it to the end. Glad I didn't leave the baddie team at a serious disadvantage. Congrats!

Not sure if there is a specific font or whatever to use for a message like this but I can potentially correct it later: Hey All, Just wanted to stop in and apologize for my lack of activity, had some IRL stuff come up that has complicated the last few days that I did not expect. I've fallen behind on the posts. I'm going to try and catch up but I'm mentally exhausted at the end of the day. I got a promotion at work and I'm having to cram that entire position into my brain in a weeks time really and its taking a bit of a toll. If I cannot get caught up I will see about subbing someone in to take my place as I don't want to detract from the game. I'll do my best to get caught up. I had just a moment at the end of my lunch here at work to get this out. I didn't want to just leave you guys hanging. I know IRL comes first, but I hate when I miss a commitment I've made.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 10:55 pm Sokolth appears to have missed the vote altogether which is also quite suspect to me.

You must have missed the part where I said I was at work?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:02 pm You can try, it's not gonna happen though.

That's pretty high confidence. I'm curious what you think makes you so untouchable?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:11 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 7:43 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 7:32 pm Things got busier at work than I had thought so I never got back too this or my vote. So all the stuff I wrote is kind of null and void now I guess. This would have been a hard vote for me given that Creature was looking good for being bad to me, but it wasn't really enough for me to vote for them this round.

I did take a look at Long Con and I'm not really seeing it. I was intrigued by the comment and suspicions of others. So I took a look like I said I would.
Most of LC's early posts were just filler and responses to others and those of us who were stupid enough to not read the rules fully for that first vote. Most of the posts up until the one right after he voted for Sabie in the first day lynch were lacking in substance honestly. Mostly reactions, with the occasional observation maybe mean to poke at people.
But then he called out Sabie and highlighting some actual points, and I feel like this helped drive some of the votes that went that way. They felt like honest observations though to me.
The posts after that just kind of helped seal Creatures fate, but they seemed consistent to me.

I could use a bit more context on why Long Con is a good choice for the bad guy team for a future look at for a lynch, but right now I'm leaning more towards a good guy.

I commented on his thoughts on Sabie, which I said they're fake, forced and disingenuous. What do you think about that?

Also, besides town reading Sabie, what other thoughts do you have?

Town reading LC not Sabie @SokothQultuq

I actually didn't town read Sabie at all. I made observations of LC's posts. I kind of saw LC's observations but to me they seemed kind of lacking, not enough reason for me to jump on that train which is why I stayed with Creature as my vote that round that she got sacked. I didn't have really enough I felt to go in the red with LC. Not yet anyway.

I'm still suspicious of Rej. But i'm stuck in the middle on them.

I'm still re-reading a few people trying to decide how I feel.

Things got busier at work than I had thought so I never got back too this or my vote. So all the stuff I wrote is kind of null and void now I guess. This would have been a hard vote for me given that Creature was looking good for being bad to me, but it wasn't really enough for me to vote for them this round.

I did take a look at Long Con and I'm not really seeing it. I was intrigued by the comment and suspicions of others. So I took a look like I said I would.
Most of LC's early posts were just filler and responses to others and those of us who were stupid enough to not read the rules fully for that first vote. Most of the posts up until the one right after he voted for Sabie in the first day lynch were lacking in substance honestly. Mostly reactions, with the occasional observation maybe mean to poke at people.
But then he called out Sabie and highlighting some actual points, and I feel like this helped drive some of the votes that went that way. They felt like honest observations though to me.
The posts after that just kind of helped seal Creatures fate, but they seemed consistent to me.

I could use a bit more context on why Long Con is a good choice for the bad guy team for a future look at for a lynch, but right now I'm leaning more towards a good guy.

I'm at work through the rest of this phase today so my activity is going to be low, but this is my take right now and where I stand.

So I have my own reservations about Creature, he looked good day one just from his reactions and I lacked enough to really point the finger anywhere else so I'm backing off on Creature and watching because I'd like to see more from them so I can get a better read. While I'm still slightly suspicious, I'll hold that one in reserve.

Rej is still pinging me with his reactions, while his explanation of his "I'm New" thing was good. I still kind of feel like its a ploy so he's also on my radar.

Dragon I'm leaning more towards the good side. He's seemed somewhat consistent to me and if his method is to be believed he's staying true to his word so far.

I kind of agree with the information that's been said about LongCon's activity. I didn't see it before until it was put into context. I'm at work through the rest of this phase so I will try and get a good read on LongCon again, but I'm leaning this way as well.

Most everyone else I'm having a hard time getting a read. Partially due to lack of activity.

You know, kind of like what you did with Rej.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:52 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

Why is it such a bid deal for you over how he presented his read on Creature? Is this some indirect worry and defense to your scum buddy? Though you did vote Creature up later on so hmm.

I was trying to understand his method. I look at someone who just drops a vote on someone with high suspicion when they don't explain it. It looks like a fishing expedition but clearly they have a reason. OR at least I think they should. I guess the way I play is more deliberate, I only vote when I feel I'm certain. With the exception of day 1 and 2, because were still feeling things out.

Also, you have to ask questions to get a response in order to get a read. Or you can just lurk in the background and hope your questions are answered by someone else stepping up to cause a ruckus.

So I find myself in a quandary. Sorry this conversation stood out to me for the overnight. I'm still looking into the other post but wanted to get my thoughts out.

I still have my reservations about Creature but this conversation with Rej and Dragon has pulled my focus. The entire thing unfolded rather interestingly to me. I don't feel like anything was resolved aside from a bunch of accusations being tossed about.

Rej professes and says he's new to the game, how true is this? He started out the game making posts that would lend to that effect. The post about not knowing where the "voting" thing is. Questions about mechanics and such. But then this showed up:

Rej, you've played multiple games with me where I just out of the blue stated that I am town. I flipped town in all of them. Also, you've never questioned me doing this nor thought of it as a scum tactic so I'm not sure what you're doing here.

- said by Dragon to Rej

While I'm sure there are differences in mechanics between sites I feel like this kind of shines a light that you know more about the game than your trying to portray.

Dragon came in like a wrecking ball a couple of times. I mean his first post in the game right of the gate was to vote for Rej. (You two got a bone to pick with one another?) but without any context. But then played it off in his next vote for Rej. But hardly any activity before this? You made no case, you didn't ask questions. Just bam, voted rej. Not going to quote that ball of mess that was your back and forth with him, but you finally came out and started giving reasons but you slammed him hard for semi-trivial posts. I get that he's new, and could be using that as a crutch against us. But I feel like this is an axe to grind and maybe not even a legit game mechanic. I feel like your posts went literally no where, just posturing and name calling. And then they just ended. Abruptly.

You both were pretty silent early on in the game for whatever reason, and then Bam the conversation to end all conversations. So I feel like all of that was either for our benefit in some way, you two teaming up to try and make yourself look good as bad people, or Rej is playing "New" while he's not and or he is actually new and was caught off guard and put back on his heels and went hard into that conversation out of a misguided attempt to defend himself and got baited or your both Townies just posturing I'm really confused by this conversation because there was a lot of other themes brought into it.

I don't have a full opinion just yet, but it certainly makes me curious about the two of you. I don't really know the two of you or your play style with only 4 games under my belt now.

Holy Hell... you guys were busy overnight. Just got home from work, trying to catch up.

That was a whole lot of flip flopping on votes.

Yeah Sabie's comment about not knowing their play style but saying they are acting weird is kind of a strange thing to state. I get it on the Mac thing not knowing that he was in another part of the country working a different time zone it make sense if you didn't know that.

Though this is the only evidence anyone's really pointing on? Was there something more about her that stood out? Everyone seems to be running the train on this particular thing it looks like. I am curious to know more. Its not enough outright at this time for me to swing my vote but its worth keeping an eye on if they survive the cycle.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:32 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:31 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:38 pm Checking in, but very quickly. Welcome to all the new folks, and hello again to all the familiar faces!

I originally voted "Space" because it's clearly the best option, but after reading Daisy's post, I have changed to "Cars" because it needs more votes. I would encourage the extra "Space" voters to also change. Unless you really want your cubicle decorated with extra votes during Day 1. It looks like we're going to have to read Daisy's posts very carefully in this game!

Why are we voting just based on one post?

Who is we?

You and Nutella to be more precise. Others are talking about it.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:38 pm Checking in, but very quickly. Welcome to all the new folks, and hello again to all the familiar faces!

I originally voted "Space" because it's clearly the best option, but after reading Daisy's post, I have changed to "Cars" because it needs more votes. I would encourage the extra "Space" voters to also change. Unless you really want your cubicle decorated with extra votes during Day 1. It looks like we're going to have to read Daisy's posts very carefully in this game!

Why are we voting just based on one post?

More time is good. I was going to step out now, but let me go back and look at Indi since we have a bit more time then.

So I've got nothing to go on for Indi and not enough time to read into that, but I'll be looking into Indi for next round.
Kyle - Following the conversation which I originally was concerned with made a case and then caused creature to react and build a case against himself in my opinion.
Creature on the other hand has been all over the place, I feel like he's been misdirecting now once the pressure shifted to him. He's back on his heels trying to save face in my opinion. Even went as far as to throw me under the buss after trying to essentially defend his position.
Since I have no one that really stands out to me at this time other than Creature.

[VOTE: VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:02 pm MacDougall, sabie12, Sokoth, maybe indiglo if we decide to follow Epi.

Am fine doing any of these.

Love the misdirection you did there Creature. You get accused and voted. I jump in to try and clarify why, someone has a good enough reason to make me doubt that they are the bad guy and present somewhat of a case, it comes full circle to you now, so you just dump that off on me now. Very nice. LOL

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:49 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:42 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:31 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

what can i accomplish by not voting with my accusation that i can't accomplish better by voting?

I guess that seems to me like a very bold play to me to just drop a vote. I know they can be changed, but to me it looks aggressive with so much circumstantial evidence. But that's each persons play style I guess. It worked, you got peoples attention and got attention put on someone to start a conversation and get some information flying about.

To that point, your right Creature's posts are very ADHD. Meant to dive post count, but without substance in most cases. So just noise to filter out.
I feel like some of those posts in which he claims your another person seems like he feels that person or you had an axe to grind. (All the references to you being Inferno390)
The one thing that kind of stood out to me about the exchange that came about is they didn't really try to defend themselves all that much. Just agreeing with my posts but no real defense. Seems like a play towards "They dont like me from another site game, I'm being targeted" without saying it as much.
But I find a lack of substance to Creatures posting so far.
Anyone else see anything that stood out about Creature?

Did you really find his response to be that defensive? The whole thinking he knew kyle from another site came off in a much more joking kind of way to me. I do agree that it's a complete lack of a defense either way though.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that, I did not feel that it was a great defense no. If there was humor mean from his exchange regarding that inferno thing, I missed it.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:47 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:13 pm my reasoning is that he seems anxious, he made posts about how there's been nothing going on and how it's bothered him but hasn't made much personal effort to stir discussion up himself. he's made offhand comments but no running comments until basically an hour ago. that's not to say he's the only one in that boat but he sticks out to me because of that/ it seems disingenuous.

Damn, I think this community is primitive if this would be treated as an actual case.

And here I was thinking I would share my Honey Roasted Cave Bear with everyone. None for you!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:31 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

what can i accomplish by not voting with my accusation that i can't accomplish better by voting?

I guess that seems to me like a very bold play to me to just drop a vote. I know they can be changed, but to me it looks aggressive with so much circumstantial evidence. But that's each persons play style I guess. It worked, you got peoples attention and got attention put on someone to start a conversation and get some information flying about.

To that point, your right Creature's posts are very ADHD. Meant to dive post count, but without substance in most cases. So just noise to filter out.
I feel like some of those posts in which he claims your another person seems like he feels that person or you had an axe to grind. (All the references to you being Inferno390)
The one thing that kind of stood out to me about the exchange that came about is they didn't really try to defend themselves all that much. Just agreeing with my posts but no real defense. Seems like a play towards "They dont like me from another site game, I'm being targeted" without saying it as much.
But I find a lack of substance to Creatures posting so far.
Anyone else see anything that stood out about Creature?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:28 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:25 pm Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

He got a reaction out of you.

True, and I guess that makes sense. Make a post to cause people to start diving in. LOL
I will admit I did like Kyle's response. I'm still reading into Creature more now. So it worked.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:57 pm also alphabetical order looks like a mafia tell.

Question - is this really a thing? Putting a list in alphabetical order is a Mafia Tell?

Kylemii's - Thank you for that information. Buy why not come out with that from the get go? Why did it have to be coaxed out of you? Shouldn't you open with that instead of just dropping a random vote and an obscure note?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:00 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:08 pm Kyle - why such a strong and sudden jump on Creature?
What makes you 900000% sure enough to drop a vote?

just 90000%

Sorry, my bad... LOL But that feels a bit like your dodging answering the question. Unless your about to drop some mad knowledge on us...
Why 90000%?
I'd be interested in hearing your case for this vote and claim.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:53 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 4:17 pm Sounds like they think they know you, but without supporting evidence this bothers me.

You sounded opportunistic here btw.

Yeah I can see that. But its true to me. It does bother me when someone claims someone is something and does not provide supporting evidence. They are just making a case for me in this instance. I'm just calling it how I see it in this case.

Its kind of going all in on someone hard without making much of a case other than. "9000%" Sure. That's pretty aggressive and with no explanation. Sounds like they think they know you, but without supporting evidence this bothers me.

Kyle - why such a strong and sudden jump on Creature?
What makes you 900000% sure enough to drop a vote?

Yeah so I was just a dumb and didn't read it right, not sure why I completely missed the part about it being an even choice across the board like it was supposed to be. I literally was just being a dumb and didn't read it right. LOL - In regards to that theme vote. I saw choose your cubical theme and my instant reaction was "Space". Now I'm paying the price for not reading the post carefully.

Yeah to touch back on something someone said, I think its strange to vote ones self as a Civi on the basis that its kind of a given. Why would you just outright come out and say "I'm bad" so its strange and a confusing misdirection to me for someone to try and already press that they specifically are a "Civilian" in this case.

I mean its great wishful thinking.

I will admit its not a bad position to be in, when I actually did watch football I was a Green Bay fan, as well as a Kansas City fan. So I can work with this.

With that being said, Hello my new cube mates!

I missed something?

Wait I get an extra vote? Sweet. Long Con, that is so nice of you to give me your vote. LOL

So why do I get to start with a vote? That seems a bit premature. I'm curious now if your serious about that and why?

Not even day 1 yet and Doc's going surgical strike on someone. LOL

Hello All! Space... the final frontier...
I mean was there any question that I would go with Space? That is like totally not my thing. LOL
I too have to admit i'm pretty sure I've not seen all of this show. I may have seen a couple of episodes but I honestly cannot remember. I may have to add it to my list if its not already in one. But this should be fun!