The Syndicate

I'm bossy in scum chat lol. I love that for me. =p

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:07 pm Dizzy, I swear next time we better both we the same alignment or I will lose it.

I agree. It was a burden tbh. Scum team next time?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm i love u too

but your actions must have consequences.

Fair I guess =(

My favorite quote is this:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:24 pm Mmk i'm gonna go with
Protocultures
M plus 7
Jeraldooo
Michelle
Lavender
Alison
1612
Dizzy
Cobbler
Reasons may or may not come, i'll try for tomorrow
This is from scummiest to towniest, right? o.o

linki

When I was in a position to unironically be shocked the three scum could possibly not be the three towniest.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:14 pm Gg

@Dyslexicon prepare to get ur butt misyeeted over and over again from now on as punishment for this game

I still love you o.o <3

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:15 pm aw man i wish i could have been in this game so i could have caught dizzy (or get fooled by dizzy, either one )

When I saw the rand, I was so happy that you weren't in the game! But I think this one was one of my best scum games.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:57 pmFor 2 years I wanted to play against scum!you and never did lol. Turns out all I had to do was go offsite and now you're nontown every game lololol

RNG is such a troll tbh

All the rip in the world!
This is maybe the first time I've fully enjoyed being scum though. =p
I was not like I was in Mean Girls, doubting my every move. You almost had me though, and then you died somehow hmmm.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm Literally never trusting Dizzy ever again though

But I'm always town.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pmIt’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.

I just try to copy my town meta when I rand scum, and I do my very best, or else the game would be no fun. Seems I only rand scum if you're in the game and have randed town. That is so unfair. I genuinely would be so happy to be town with you. But alas, maybe in a couple of years. Rip.

Thank you so much for the game, [mention]dunya[/mention] and [mention]juliets[/mention]! As you know, I had a lot of fun with this game, despite randing scum! So thank you so much for hosting.

[mention]1612[/mention] You were and awesome teammate! You're such a joy to play with and I can't wait to play with you again! Thank you for all your hard work! <3

[mention]Carotenoid[/mention] GOAT. Thank you for bringing the energy we needed! And good job to [mention]cobbler[/mention] for giving us a great start on the slot, and to [mention]tedxtr[/mention] as well. <3

GG, town.
I'm sorry I had to be scum this game, cause town is my destiny, but also - Scar <3

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.

Cursed univers confirmed. =(

Why are time zones and life a thing?

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] I'm town, and I think you know that. Do you trust me? We need to be all town voting for scum today in order to win. Can you explain to me better why you think Michelle is town?

I can't even be here right now. I'll be on before EoD, but I'm fully busy today. I'll probably vote whoever MP votes and follow her off whatever cliff we're on and hope we land on something soft.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:24 am Addendum:

The reason that final post would make me feel like shit is that Dizzy and I have known each other for a decent while now, have never rolled town together in any game, and after all this time for me to have said everything I had to him and then make a post like that? I would feel like an asshole.

Aight. MP lock town for me.

[mention]Michelle[/mention] I don't understand where your reads or your game view is coming from? You seem to suspect me as scum, but why? Because "I have no scum range" which is so absolutely not true.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:05 amIf Dizzy is also town, then the exact team is Carote/speed/1612. If we lose to that team because Michelle votes me, then uh.

This team, I guess I could see. It also wouldn't be out of question that Urist is in there. But if that is the case, then we're doing a balancing act right now.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:00 am Yeah, Michelle is town. This is townie. There's no way this is agenda.

How sure are you about this and why?

I'm not sold on Michelle though.

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] Who would you prefer if not Michelle?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:56 am Michelle is probably just town right now, there's no way she thinks this is her best way of getting her team the win.

Counterpoint. If she's scum and is getting yeeted anyway, she doesn't want to make anti-alignments. They only need one misyeet at any point.

Also, why the MP vote? I thought you were gearing up for a vote on me or something.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:24 amDyslexicon - Dizzy is a magnificent scum player, nothing is outsude his scum range.

Michelle, this is an absurd statement. How did you get to this conclusion and what makes you qualified to make this statement? If I'm not mistaken, you've only experienced my scum game when I replaced into your scum team.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:13 pmI understand, I'm just feeling rather angsty about the state of affairs. I know you have no intentions to cast aspersions, you just want to help. And I appreciate that.

MP, do you read Speed as town here or is this just a way of speech?

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?
I would be more worried about the traction of speed/jeraldoo. For Michelle, I don't see a world where I get off and consider other teams without her, I just can't see it

Wait? Traction for Speed in this day phase? Can you be more specific?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?

When we see where the votes land is when we see who's actually ok with yeeting who, which is the scary part.

But actually, question to everyone, who would you prefer if not Michelle? I think that is a needed question anyway

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:41 pmit's fine i think the banishment is locked today anyway

Yeah. Watch out for Speed's newspaper though.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:39 pm alison wanted us to banish michelle so obviously if we lose then this loss is all her fault

This is my exact internal tactic when I implode at EoDs and I'm ashamed of it.

Actually, I have to stop myself, and I have to go to bed like right now as I have to get up at some point tomorrow and it's too late already. What sucks is that I'll be pretty busy tomorrow in general, and I don't know how much time I'll have to hang out in thread.

[mention]1612[/mention] Urist was right, I did misinterpret you, so ignore the thing about TMI on Michelle flipping scum.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 pmWhen he said that "you are bussing and setting me up for the next day" there was an implication that you are scum with Michelle; you're misinterpreting him

Oh. Lol. Ok, I read it again. Not that I understand on what planet me and Michelle as scum makes sense.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:24 pmare you really still taking me out of context??

@Dyslexicon, give me your reads on me ASIDE from michelle right now. You've been avoiding that question for a loooong time. Give me your views on my iso'd logs, my reaction to tutu's reaction test.

How did I take it out of context? Did you not imply that I was setting you up for next misyeet for a Michelle scum flip? Or what did you mean?

But also, fair. I'll read your iso.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

But to actually give this an answer. I don't actually know why you would. It would just be in a world where you are scum, you have TMI on Lav and Michelle, and then I don't see why you push one town to get yeeted and still be wrong while defending the other. Reading through Michelle's iso I think she's acting pretty weird towards you, voting you with no push behind it and backing off that vote very easily. She also starts the tandem read on you and Lav, but only pushes Lav. These are things that I see often in scummates. But to be fair, it has much more to do with Michelle than you, so you are right about that.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:17 pm Michelle should place the first vote today imo. And she should do it soon, whenever she comes on. I don't want another deadline scramble.

Michelle is probably sleeping now.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

So if we yeet Michelle, there will be a tomorrow? =)

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:13 pmI think it's very possible Urist is scum and also agree that voting there is dumb. That slot is a self-resolving problem, methinks.

And no, I'm not asking you to consider if you are scum. That's dumb. :P But you coming at someone aggressively for considering the possibility is something for the non-dizzy people to look at.

Then look at it, is what I'm saying.

Also, I've been misyeeted for the exact delightful reasoning of "but what if Dizzy" before. So I have a reaction to that. I'm also cognisant that literally three of you are scum. But I'm not meaning to shut anyone down point blank if they actually are town.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:02 pm Basically, if Carot is unsure and wants to talk about it, I think they're allowed. It worries me that you would shut down that avenue of discussion with a bullcrap reason, Dizzy. You expect Carot to have a surefire read on you and MP after skimming the entire thread once?

I'm not meaning to shut her down, but I'm putting the pressure on. I'm not meaning to be rude. She literally said in her post that she read me town, so I want to see what grounds she has for "hmm but what if Dizzy and MP", which is basically an echo of what Michelle was saying.

My info is MP is town or I quit. Call it complacency if you want.
I read through Michelle's iso and I didn't like it. Vote on Scirrus and Alison, one on 1612 with no intent or bite and a backtrack of voting somewhere else "cause 1612 showed up now". She talks to MP as she's town and same with me early game, which reads tmi. Volume clear on MP I dislike. She later scum reads 1612 and Lav, but tunnels only Lav. I especially don't like her handling of 1612 which reads teammate all the way to me. Would like opinions on this.

So where I'm at now is that I would want to vote either Michelle or 1612. If the alternative is "but why are you not considering that it could be yourself and MP" then lol. And it's not like I haven't payed attention to MP or evaluated her in my mind all the time, trust me. I just don't see it. You can blame me if I'm wrong, that is entirely fine. Or make a good case.

I think voting Urist is dumb here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:01 pm In MYLO with no scumlynches, I'm worried when people encourage complacency or try to dismiss possibilities. We have 24 hours. We should, ideally, make the most informed decision possible.

Inform me, daddy.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:59 pmI'm concerned.

What are you concerned about?

I don't know if there's any way I'll get out of it if Michelle isn't scum and it's one of MP and Urist instead. Unless it's exactly Speed/1612/Carot.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pmI'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Insert Vixen gif of "No too vague" here. There's no time to "let's not overlook it". Either you believe it or not. I have tons of content in thread, so it really shouldn't be hard to get a read on me.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:49 pm I'll probably just vote for Michelle today.

I read through her iso. Can you tell me what you think of her handling of 1612 this game, in her iso? Same question to [mention]M Plus 7[/mention]

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm @Dyslexicon , I asked you yesterday who you scumread between Lavendar and Michelle and you said Lavendar. Could you explain that and do you still think I was distancing michelle??

No, I'm not going to explain a scum read that has flipped town now, cause obviously it wasn't right. You can see it in my iso. Most of it was world building as well.

I'll come back to your question about Michelle later.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Imagine saying I didn't actually try. The sad thing about this game is that I have been trying.
ehh, sorry. not saying you aren't trying. its just a sense of urgency and paranoia i guess that speed mentioned? well mp7 is super positive but it seems like its just her personaility to be uplifting every game. And so are you! sorry but yeah just seems a bit abrubt to say this is an easy game but I am just bad at scumhunting so i cant speak for everyone. This game has been a (pleasant) train wreck and its a hard game and i am super invested and don't want to screw this up in mylo

I'm probably trying to pep talk myself up a bit tbh. I don't really know what you mean by the sence of urgency thing. Obviously, this has not been an easy game at all cause we're in mylo with no scum lynches. I was feeling good around the Tutu reveal, and I'm just trying not to lose faith. Actually just trying not to have too many feelings about this game just now as I don't think that helps.

Question though - who do you think is the scum team right now? Still the same as last day?

Thanks for thoughts, Carot.
And yes, I do still read MP town. And if I follow her off a cliff I hope it at least will be the sexy Thelma and Louise version. I feel like I've had a "dumb" reason to read her town, mostly, and that is just the pure excitement from feeling we are both town for ONCE. Then I also felt the same "click" in her brain as I got when I brought up Proto's read on Lav last day phase, and when she said later that she was glad I brought it up. I don't know if this will make sense to you, but I think it will make sense to her (?) I realise that this might not be convincing if someone likes to argue that we are magicians and somehow both scum. I'm town, and I don't know what more I can do this game to show that, and I do believe MP is town as well. So my pool is small, but it only takes one misstep.

Imagine saying I didn't actually try. The sad thing about this game is that I have been trying.

Do we set up a voting order? Or do we do unofficial votes, like Alison suggested? I don't ever think I've been in hammer mylo. Votes are still changable though.

Rip, Alison.

Let's make the comeback of our lives, the HALF of you that are town.

I'll sleep pretty soon, but I'll be around for a bit. Don't do anything rash please.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:09 amwhy aren't you btw? I think who puts pression on inactives in this game are plain wrong, it is too easy of a 'read' tbh

I read 2 Isos of inactives and looked pretty pure, and i know i am villager.

What makes it not be Dizzy/M7+1?

What isos did you read and what made them look pure?

Anyway, gone for real

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