The Syndicate

StupidSexyVulgard

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm Can we kill vulgard now or

I think we can do that

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

Going through Flander's iso and it's not good
Most of the talk about Porscha and Tommy on D1 is negative. I can easily see it as distancing, because the things he points out are kind of specific and nitpicky, like talking about age might be something useless for mafia to talk about. He also always has other scum reads, but these are for no particular reasons, gut or very vague things, while the Porscha and Tommy stuff are more specific call outs.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:23 pm Hm. Think I'll vote porscha

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:24 pm Not a huge fan of the players on her wagon tbh. Feels weird

This is voting Porscha while also undermining her wagon.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:22 pm Maybe my first name is Stupid, but I lose my shit on my homeboys playing an out of town meta. Or doing anything that doesn't fit their established town game.
Falc and I have chased eachother around the last couple games because we couldn't town read eachother.. but Lucy just gives the Tommy a free pass because?

Probably because Lucy is mafia, and Tommy is either in chat, or is actually town and Lucy afraid to get run over.

That's how I'm seeing this at least,

Vote Lucy

Pivots to Lucy via Tommy, while also suggestion Tommy could be mafia. The wording of "or is actually town" pings me here too. Flanders holds this connection as long as Lucy is a viable suspicion/vote as far as I can see. This is also where his D1 vote ends up

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:33 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:30 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:38 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:25 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:24 pm Not a huge fan of the players on her wagon tbh. Feels weird

Which players are pinging you

Dyslexicon is in my SR's

But like why tho

You don't know me at all. As far as I know, I've never played with you. I had hardly began to even play this game, and you've mentioned a couple of times being suspicious of me. I know you said gut, but even that has to come from somewhere, or no? Genuinely curious

No you're right, we've never played a game together, at least so far as I remember.
Why? Your entry made me feel uncomfortable, just an uneasy feeling reading your early posting. I'll go back and quote if necessary but there was one post where it looked like you were misspelling intentionally as to give the impression you don't care. That's how I felt about it. I also didn't like your pocket / town clear on Sabi. Those two things specifically.
But you're on the porscha wagon, and I can respect that rn. I guess.

This is one thing I found towny when it happened. When I press him about his scum read on me that he had mentioned a couple of times, the reasoning is just really bad and bizarre, which is kind of why I read it towny. But looking at it now, it could just be hot garbage tbh. Also he commends me for my Porscha vote, though he doesn't hold the same vote.

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D2

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:06 pm I'm voting Porscha because I'm still waiting for her to provide thoughts, and also explain why she felt that she didn't have to do anything because Sean and I hadn't.

Doesn't add up for me.

The focus on Porscha is good ig. Porscha was consensus PoE at this time though, so I'm not awarding any points

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:58 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:44 pm Can someone tell me why specifically they are reading dizzy as town? It would help me solve if I understood more of these.

Finding the post to quote would require effort, so

Nook - really seems like he just doesn't care. Same meta as the baseball game where I was party to his misly.
Axe - also doesn't give a fuck, obviously.
Not caring isn't exclusive to town, but they both kinda have the presence of players that would value work ethic as wolves.

Dizzy - just sketch vibes. Nothing substantial, but is actually playing. I'm not sure they've muddied anything though, so I'd park Dizzy with nook and axe in a more null leany world,

Wigly - dude just bailed. Kinda the type of player I was referring to earlier when Mac asked me to reread the entire thread. Fits the bill
Porscha - no sharing. Totally bottled. Similar to wigly in the sense she just ghosted. Unhappy wolf.

"Unhappy wolf" is iiiinteresting wording for Porscha.
Also worth noting that I'm placed as null with "just sketch vibes", yet I'm chosen as the vote for the day when he pivots off Porscha (first to Wilgy, then to me). He wasn't around for EoD. I don't remember, but I think I did have some votes on D2

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:49 pm

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:31 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:28 pm talk more, ur being scumread (SR) for not talking enough @Tommy

I’m sorry but this game barely started and there is absolutely nothing for me to contribute

in thread coaching... Tommy apologising to teammate for throwing or apologising to friend for playing bad?

Yesssss, that's what I was saying earlier. And yesterday.

Unless we're in the world where mafia chose to not kill in order to make it appear Mac is town.
Wtff

So here he's just slipping that Mac was the N1 kill, I think. By trying to come up with non-tmi, he tmis

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:11 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:18 pm I have never seen someone as either alignment handle their situation as well as porscha is. It's insane. Not a drip of snark or sorrow. No negativity. Good humour. My gosh. We could all learn from Porscha.

i'm blushing uwu (unsure of what we are learning tho)

How to handle being suspected in a game of mafia with dignity and not hurting people's feelings?

No, I just signed in and had notifications, so I checked them.
And Porscha was mean to me, twice. I totally deserved it, and completely bought her tone, but Porscha -

I CAN COUNT, AND ADD.

So she's not the angel you claim, but I'm happy to stay on Wilgy and am leaning more null / townish on Porscha now.

Flanders talking about Porscha sounds different than when he talks about anyone else throughout the game. It's more jokey

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:16 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:10 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:47 pm @EnderWiggin who are your top town and why?

Lucy - Play around Tommy I don't think is partnered and thought process matches Town!Lucy. I would've liked to live to D3 because that's when I feel Lucy's brain is easiest to 100% follow but sucks.

Dizzy - Playing very similar to town!Dizzy, missed today due to festival but D1 was all I needed. It's possible they faked D1 to fool me knowing they'd be AFK today but honestly that feels over the top when I just got them wrong and therefore don't have the pull to actually push them if they were scum.

Axe - I have come to the conclusion the Axe just wouldn't have played it this way as scum and have decided to clear them for now.

Vivak - I wanted this slot dead but after last night I think I should just clear them because if that reaction was from scum!Vivak than hell I give the game away man.

Sabi - Reasons.tm.

Nanook - Playing like town!Nanook and also the defense of me seems about right. Most likely in this list to be snowing me right here.

Rondo - Lucy Reasons.


MAX ONE WOLF IN THAT LIST, YOUR POE IS:

Upper POE: Don't touch them yet but I've had feelings:
Achro - I'm a petty bastard and honestly I think they way he's gone about some wagons and approaches is probably town but I hate his flip onto me so he can perma-live in upper POE
Mac - Had clears on him but he's letting game go. Either legit can't parse game or is wolf.

Middle POE:
Stupid Sexy Flanders - I vibe with some of their posts but hate others. This is a shrugread
Porscha - Some good things about them and I don't think they're paired with Wilgy and Flanders for reasons.tm but still sus.

Lower POE:
Dr Wilgy - I have seen nothing I particularly like from them.
Seanzie - I was going to try maybe casing him overnight but I guess this can just exist like this.

This is my legacy reads, Porscha was a hit and I'm moderately confident that the POE has the last wolf too.

So here's a thought on Seanzie. The post that pinged me on porscha was early game when she said something along the lines of "well Sean and Flanders aren't doing anything either". I didn't dive into the whole TMI read thing you guys seemed honed in on, but maybe it was something else. I missed a lot of pages.

I'm town, I'm totally sure on seanzie, but it seems like that early in the game porscha would be less interested in distancing from Sean, and more inclined to slip us clear by virtue of aligning her lack of posting with two town.

Thoughts?

This is super sketch. Like he presents an argument for if Porscha is mafia, then she spewed both Sean and him town. And "thoughts?" Also, if he scum read Porscha on and off throughout, it's weird that he wouldn't check out the TMI discussion which he says he missed, since that discussion was a large part of many people's suspicion of Porscha. But he didn't care apparently

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:56 pm On vibes and the fact Mac is still alive, I think Doc should reveal their D1 save.

Also hate this

So yeah, first ISO I'm going through and I think it's just mafia

Lol except Mac won't be here, but for anyone else then

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:48 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:47 pm Kind of want to self vote now tbh

I EaT your AtE for breakfast.

It true. I probably won't, because I don't like it, technically

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:41 pm How about this. We lock the game at me/Lucy/Nook?

@Vulgard I don't really find the spew for Lucy clearing. She was pretty hands off on Tommy and Porscha, or pretty neutral. I think Lucy is the type of player who will appear very similar as town and mafia. It seems like she plays more on principle. But there's two things that bothers me a lot. The first is the fixation on her mistake about assuming Mac to be the N1. She said that it would be something that town could assume, but she still called it a mistake and said she would be chopped for it. I think she was just honest about that. The other thing that bothers me is this:

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:53 pm I will have dinner and read and try to have my god read epiphany while doing those things

Teasing her epiphany on me before having it. I think it's just a fake read

@MacDougall Last part for posterity if you respect my thoughts

Kind of want to self vote now tbh

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:13 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:12 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:11 pm @Dyslexicon while calling me truthful and honest, you also are of the opinion my read on you is fake, how is this not contradictory?

You are using truth. You are obviously not unable to play mafia lol

elaborate further my Czechoslovak

If you are mafia, you have admitted to slipping. You're also using a reason to hard vote me that has a core of truth to it (though I'm not quite sure what it is exactly), but you were able to pick up on that I didn't quite want to vote you even though I had decided to in the moment

But to be all the way honest myself, I don't even know anymore

I need to sleep soon. If you all chop me, it's all good and I get to lay to rest with my bae Ender and my apparently arch nemesis Achro (<3). And then good luck deciding if you should overthink or do the Lucy/Nook speeding

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:11 pm @Dyslexicon while calling me truthful and honest, you also are of the opinion my read on you is fake, how is this not contradictory?

You are using truth. You are obviously not unable to play mafia lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:59 pm Why are people clearing vul? For effort?

Effort and pocketing tbh

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:57 pm you'd win the argument but ur still scum lmao, ima stop responding

I'm actually curious. Because you're not even totally wrong, in one way. I had already decided to vote you. But I waited until you logged off. So, it seems, I did pause, but not sufficiently?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:55 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:48 pmI'm rarely ever compared to others, I quite like it when I am

honesty and logic are good principles, are they not?

Of course.

Speaking of, do you truly believe that it is suspicious that I was worried about you and then proceeded to vote you anyway?

I knew I saw something but I didn't immediately process it, and I couldn't follow your emotions so I believe it was a scum slip

How would my emotions be different as mafia and town in this scenario?

you'd have more pause

As town? What is sufficient pause?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:48 pmI'm rarely ever compared to others, I quite like it when I am

honesty and logic are good principles, are they not?

Of course.

Speaking of, do you truly believe that it is suspicious that I was worried about you and then proceeded to vote you anyway?

I knew I saw something but I didn't immediately process it, and I couldn't follow your emotions so I believe it was a scum slip

How would my emotions be different as mafia and town in this scenario?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:41 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:53 pm I will have dinner and read and try to have my god read epiphany while doing those things

Teasing her epiphany on me before having it. I think it's just a fake read

I think this is it actually

Here's something else, from the other way around.

Vivax can have the win for me if mafia.
Sean, I just don't believe is mafia, both on spew and his own play.
Vul can have the win if mafia.
Wilgy can be town through Nook's read, either way. It will be a little bit dumb if mafia. This is a bit wishy-wash, so let's call it a faith read

Leaving Lucy/Nook, and there's room to chop me, as I think I have been in most full PoE solves?

I'd speed run the game like this rn

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:48 pmI'm rarely ever compared to others, I quite like it when I am

honesty and logic are good principles, are they not?

Of course.

Speaking of, do you truly believe that it is suspicious that I was worried about you and then proceeded to vote you anyway?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:45 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:41 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME What made you think Lucy was doc btw?

the aforementioned mistake, it was essentially a deduction that made me scum or doc, since I'm neither it was arguably a tmi and definitely a mistake

I don't get a lot of what you're saying sometimes, Lucy. If you are mafia, I believe I've learned something about you this game

what would u have learned about me?

That you follow certain principles and you're quite "true". Again, it relates to someone else I know. Call it stubborn, in a way that can be revealing in mafia games

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:41 pm How about this. We lock the game at me/Lucy/Nook?

@Vulgard I don't really find the spew for Lucy clearing. She was pretty hands off on Tommy and Porscha, or pretty neutral. I think Lucy is the type of player who will appear very similar as town and mafia. It seems like she plays more on principle. But there's two things that bothers me a lot. The first is the fixation on her mistake about assuming Mac to be the N1. She said that it would be something that town could assume, but she still called it a mistake and said she would be chopped for it. I think she was just honest about that. The other thing that bothers me is this:

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:53 pm I will have dinner and read and try to have my god read epiphany while doing those things

Teasing her epiphany on me before having it. I think it's just a fake read

problem is I'm appealing to my own authority where I regularly make these kinds of reads

what principles btw

Honesty and logic

Which is why you remind me of someone called Alana. You may not enjoy that you remind me of someone, but that is just a guess

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:41 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME What made you think Lucy was doc btw?

the aforementioned mistake, it was essentially a deduction that made me scum or doc, since I'm neither it was arguably a tmi and definitely a mistake

I don't get a lot of what you're saying sometimes, Lucy. If you are mafia, I believe I've learned something about you this game

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME What made you think Lucy was doc btw?

How about this. We lock the game at me/Lucy/Nook?

@Vulgard I don't really find the spew for Lucy clearing. She was pretty hands off on Tommy and Porscha, or pretty neutral. I think Lucy is the type of player who will appear very similar as town and mafia. It seems like she plays more on principle. But there's two things that bothers me a lot. The first is the fixation on her mistake about assuming Mac to be the N1. She said that it would be something that town could assume, but she still called it a mistake and said she would be chopped for it. I think she was just honest about that. The other thing that bothers me is this:

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:53 pm I will have dinner and read and try to have my god read epiphany while doing those things

Teasing her epiphany on me before having it. I think it's just a fake read

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:27 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it's dizzy

It me!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:01 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:50 am Would like to see if Nanook steers away from the Vulgard trajectory here before making up my mind

Not currently planning to

Would you self pres on me or no? How sure are you that I'm town rn?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:10 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:24 am Hey Dizzy why are Wilgy and Nook off the table when based on my solving today these are the only two possible wolves and one is shielding the other making the vote very clear

I read Nook's ISO when I realised he wasn't doc, and I still thought him town. I've come out town for all ISOs I've done. I don't know how I read Nook, it's like I vibe or I don't. And I feel like I've been vibing this game. This is probably not a good answer. If I come out of Lucy's iso feeling like it can't be her, I'll vote Nook

And as for Wilgy, I just am listening to Nook. And I feel like Wilgy could've shaded me more this day when I've been getting some heat. (I might have a tell for Wilgy also, and this game might be make or break for that)

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:24 am Hey Dizzy why are Wilgy and Nook off the table when based on my solving today these are the only two possible wolves and one is shielding the other making the vote very clear

I read Nook's ISO when I realised he wasn't doc, and I still thought him town. I've come out town for all ISOs I've done. I don't know how I read Nook, it's like I vibe or I don't. And I feel like I've been vibing this game. This is probably not a good answer. If I come out of Lucy's iso feeling like it can't be her, I'll vote Nook

I think Lucy's play this day has been really bizarre and something I haven't seen from her. I'll ISO to look at the spew myself, I know Vul brought up stuff

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:54 am I'd like to hear an explanation why people think Nanook doesn't kill Axe n2 because I'm reading his ISO rn and I don't see it

Because Axe didn't have Nook in his list and tends to not push Nook. The flip side is if Nook was worried that Axe would get onto him in the future. I don't actually know who makes the Axe kill, it's a pretty strange one imo. I don't really have a conclusion

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:46 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:40 am I don't fully mind being chopped here actually. We're largely town making the decisions, so it's interesting. Last chance now, cause I will mind it on future days

My best PoE is Lucy/Vul. I think there would be two chops afterwards if I'm going over. Maybe listen to dead town this time. Unless I'm wrong wowee

Anyway, I need to get back to work. I'll be around later this night, more before EoD. I will try to gather my thoughts then. I'm not very confident on where to go myself

Bad.

Also, I am sad you didn't react/respond to my #5269 (hehe 69:P)

Now you are the one flirting. I don't feel like I've been avoiding you though?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Will you hammer yourself if I vote you?

It me

I don't see me as extending any olive branches tbh, I just don't express myself as very confident. I did have Tommy and Porscha both in the bottom of my PoE after getting caught up the first time around. I pointed out how the game felt like it was either really easy or really hard. I've had this feeling before

Vulgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:08 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:59 pm Achromatic isn't mafia. Nor is Dyslexicon.

But why. His words don’t impress me. I think he tried to distract from Tommy D1

Ah yes lets tie ourselves firmly to the sinking brick. That sounds like the decision making of a skilled mafioso.

I actually think he would. But it depends on Porscha. If Porscha w, Achro v

Did Dizzy vote Achro on day 3?

I did, which is kind of unfortunate. I even said as much at the time

I do think Vul is town. Main reason for having him in PoE was the NKs

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:42 am I'm kind of okay with you lucy vul as the POE

Ok, sure. Let's do it. It's my best guess

I don't fully mind being chopped here actually. We're largely town making the decisions, so it's interesting. Last chance now, cause I will mind it on future days

My best PoE is Lucy/Vul. I think there would be two chops afterwards if I'm going over. Maybe listen to dead town this time. Unless I'm wrong wowee

Anyway, I need to get back to work. I'll be around later this night, more before EoD. I will try to gather my thoughts then. I'm not very confident on where to go myself

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:31 am Show me somewhere in the game you showed some town solving mindset (aside from inexplicably reading Nanook as doc when he was obviously not doc claiming) as opposed to just landing on correct answers with gut and luck.

Just read my iso and make a decision then.

My read on Achro/Porscha not being teamed (me still voting Achro in the end eh)
Me trying to show why I didn't think Ender/Porscha was teamed
My whole game is a town game, so what is there is there

Also, arriving at correct answers with gut and luck is not invalid tbh. Thought I don't agree that is what I've been doing

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:28 am wait what was ur scum read on me

You remind me a little bit of Alana (Sean knows her). I was wondering if your woe is me, I will be chopped etc was using truth to your advantage. The way you were focusing in on it was weird. It felt like you admitted to being mafia, while still playing the game, if that makes sense

Mostly though it was PoE of you/Vul, and I wasn't comfortable voting Vul

Sorry I had good reads lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:17 am I think it's accurate considering you went from

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:20 pm This is a cool player list. Too bad I don't feel like playing mafia.

To

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:14 am I haven't really read the game, and I'm probably not going to for a while, so enjoy that.

I have Sabi and Mac as town. These are both vibes and what kind of energy they are bringing. Mac is more based in meta, which I do think I have at least a decent track record of picking up on. For Sabi, I just liked their start and their impatience, them talking about wanting to do better. So there are my friends now. Will see if that turns out good or not.

To

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

To

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:18 am Actually I probably shouldn't vote someone I haven't played with rn

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Because lack of impression or something

Yeah, those were some best shot votes on impression. Behold, for I am more powerful on a skim than any neatly organised iso on MU!

But actually, the more relevant thing is where I landed once I had actually read the game more carefully

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:10 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

Lol slap me harder daddy

My first impressions are usually my best impressions tbh. I went over this with Vivax, and I think you've seen this before. Why are you conf biasing me into being mafia now? Feels unfair tbh

Explain how I am confirmation biasing you, and how it is unfair for me to be doing so?

You said something about me panicking about not hitting doc. That is just making a narrative based on the thought that I'm mafia. But I'm not mafia. I was suspicious of Rondo, so that's why I wanted Nook to out if he was doc. It's fine, it happens all the time, but it's not correct. You had a solve of me, and then you threw it away

I said it was unfair, it just feels unfair, but that is just me pouting. I guess that's the ATE

I think the reasons for me being town are already being discussed.
- I don't bus/throw shit on both Tommy and Porscha on D1 if I'm teamed with them. I'm not a bus person.
- I absolutely never kill Axe. I did think Nook was doc, no matter what you say about that now.
- I think you should respect Ender's read on me, because he is right. Also, I argued for him being town back, and yes, that is AI imo

Which brings me to my view of the game rn

Wilgy town for defending me here.
Sean town for defending me as well, though he kind of stopped doing that, but I think he doesn't know my alignment. I've played a lot with Sean and I think I can see through his posts somewhat.
My reason for going Lucy over Vul last day was similar. I was watching Vul kind of build up to having me in the PoE. But then he disregarded it and town read me for nailing both scum early on. That is me-centric, but I think that bodes very well for Vul, cause up to that point it read like they didn't want to town read me. But they did anyway.

So I was left with Lucy. I really don't know what Lucy is doing rn.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:11 am Dizzy do you think there is any world in which Lucy would be doing this to you as town?

I have absolutely no idea

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

This is a fair criticism, but their read in contention was on D1, right? They weren't inactive on D1.

You should reread their ISO and give me your thoughts. I think while they weren't inactive on d1, it's still fair to say that they weren't actually playing the game. Dyslexicon was willfully refusing to participate on day 1 early and most of their reads were "I don't feel like playing" and then suddenly they just had the entire solve.

This is not accurate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:08 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I think it bodes rather well for you that your choice of who to push here as the bottom POE is the person that I am least likely to agree with you on. That is what I need to ascertain whether you are capable of doing as mafia because if you were mafia doing this you would most likely be doing this specifically to demonstrate that your interest is in solving and not surviving which is very clever.

Mac =p

Ignore my existence. Using ATE on me here is not going to bode well. I'm not going to dominate the discourse or decide what occurs today. This is democracy manifest.

I don't think I'm ATEing but ok

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:05 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:05 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:29 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:36 pm The way I see it, the best play is to kill Porscha.

The most fun play is to kill Achromatic.

killed axe to sus achro

One problem here is I never kill Axe in any game

how come

I'm pretty sure I never have as mafia. I don't really see him as a threat when I'm mafia. He usually goes wrong or gets mischopped

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:05 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:02 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:56 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:53 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:53 am ergo fake emotions on some level

Please no.

makes one message not make sense in my pov from a malicious level, and I'm right about these reads

I have no idea what you're on about here. But I had a dream about you writing that you were ill that same night. So please do not call my concern fake. I did actually want to shield you from a vote after that, which is why I waited, so you are right about that. But I didn't want to vote Vul, because I had more reason to think him town. And I needed to get my vote down

Are you criticising me for not taking pity on your rl circumstances and voting someone who I felt was going to flip town? Like what is your actual angle here? And how does it make me not town?

god read, nothing I can explain perfectly (unlucky for you I do this consistently enough to appeal to my own authority), you ignoring my unintentional ate doesn't help

I don't understand what I'm ignoring

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

Lol slap me harder daddy

My first impressions are usually my best impressions tbh. I went over this with Vivax, and I think you've seen this before. Why are you conf biasing me into being mafia now? Feels unfair tbh

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:29 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:36 pm The way I see it, the best play is to kill Porscha.

The most fun play is to kill Achromatic.

killed axe to sus achro

One problem here is I never kill Axe in any game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:00 am I don't believe you saw that and thought it was a doc claim what. He was clearly talking about voting correctly.

I didn't think so. And you can track how I treated Nook afterwards

My thoughts are your thoughts, clearly