The Syndicate

gg mafia, it was my hope one of the punk gang would act on my tsp id been hammering into them in the chat but alas.

beep beep lol [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:11 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:01 pm well claims don't really help cause roles are distributed semi-randomly but maybe an action claim helps
I know nothing about my role, lol. Everything is a maybe - maybe not. With no specification what my role is. I targeted mac and nothing happened.
well something clearly happened
the host informed me nothing happened from my role.

this is not confirmation of being roleblocked. sigh.

did anybody look into what i asked hyena to do?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:46 pm From earlier, Quin:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:41 pm who blocked me and why is quin still here

You will see my point when you answer my question.

sorry, she*

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:32 pm @Quin
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 pm Being roleblocked gives you a "you were roleblocked message". We know this because TSP came into the thread asking why he got blocked.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:59 pm anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.
TSP did not claim being blocked the night before last. Ergo he was not blocked the night before last, and your roleblock failed somehow. So TSP is not mechanically confirmed.

Where did Poison claim he was blocked?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:25 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:23 pm And even if TSP is somehow town, I feel like yeeting TSP here is the correct play regardless so that we can get some insight into what happened/what's happening.
I'm not bringing us into LYLO just to get information.
I think TSP is scum. If he's around for LYLO, I'm always voting him.

Who killed Sloonei?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:23 pm And even if TSP is somehow town, I feel like yeeting TSP here is the correct play regardless so that we can get some insight into what happened/what's happening.

I'm not bringing us into LYLO just to get information.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:18 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:17 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

channeling my inner mac to say that i've solved the game and you can all go home now
It's harder for me to conceptualize Marmot worlds because of his unique position as bridge between OG thread and punks. I know you think I'm mafia with him but that's not the case, so setting that aside do you think he must be mafia with another OG threader, or could the other one be TL from your pov?

Possibly. I've also suspected him since before I even got into the thread though so like, he's a lynch priority for me.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

channeling my inner mac to say that i've solved the game and you can all go home now

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:10 pm I guess I've assumed that the OG 4 punks all had the same vanilla ability: a separate chatroom where they started the game, and the ability to vote together to rb another player. Would anyone disagree with me on this assumption?

actually i can breathe fire and sing the alphabet backwards

lmao the nutella marmot team is gettin extremely persuasive rn

alison don't roleclaim pls

[mention]Alison[/mention] is there a world in which nutella can be bad while also having a dayvig?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:29 pm A Shark Attacks

With great reluctance but also much relief, a time traveling steampunk dude releases his shark. It devours his target as well as himself, and then contents itself with licking its paws.

@MacDougall has died and flips:

Time Travelling Steampunk

You can only play in the thread on odd-numbered days. On even-numbered days you won't be allowed to post or vote, but you will receive a piece of information about the setup. At any point during an odd-numbered day you may choose to release your Secret Weapon and kill both yourself and a player of your choice. You cannot be targeted on even-numbered nights.

You are town, and you win when all the mafia are eliminated.
@Funnygurl555 dies and flips:

Paranoid Badass

If [secret subset of players that I'm not going to tell you who are] target you, you'll knock them out. This will have [an effect I also won't tell you]. Fun!

You are town, and you win when all the mafia are eliminated.
Day continues, and I’m not resetting the poll—FG and Mac’s votes won’t count nor will votes against them be counted, and hammer is now at 6/8
So, while I can't vote with the punk gang, I can override their attempted roleblock. I almost switched to FG last night, glad I didn't.
Okay, I think this post is what lead me to think you could cancel our roleblock. "Override" meant cancel in my head at that moment, even if the 2nd sentence would make it vague.

naw, i think override is fine in this context.

i forgot marmot cant vote gg

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:01 pm @Quin who would be the protector?

[redacted]

like i have a theory that marmot switched the RB from nutella because he knows she's bad and needs a kill to go through

their double team on me for tmi just now is affirming that a bit

if marmot wanted to cancel it he would've just voted Alison with me. But that would have lead to questions.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:57 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm You already responded to my explanation.
You switched targets to someone I believe to be mechanically cleared. I'm going to need you to elaborate.
There was a chance that mafia knew who we were blocking last night, thus having a different member of their team perform the kill. I opted to switch our roleblock because in that event, it was more likely to succeed.

What do you think about the fact that there was no nightkill?
Protector.
You think there's both a doc and a bodyguard?

if you're referring to syn as the bodyguard yes absolutely

soz i misunderstood like the latter half but my point being according to TSP today i shouldn't be alive

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 pm Being roleblocked gives you a "you were roleblocked message". We know this because TSP came into the thread asking why he got blocked.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:59 pm anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.
TSP did not claim being blocked the night before last. Ergo he was not blocked the night before last, and your roleblock failed somehow. So TSP is not mechanically confirmed.

Not necessarily. If I'm meant to be dead right now, there's only a couple of reasons why that may not be so. And he *did* assume he was roleblocked the other night. It doesn't sound like he got a message then.

even if one of them apparently just tried to murk me what the heck

none of my suspected teammate pairings include TSP or Hyena.

If we're talking about game balance, explain to me how a 5-mason team with a spokesperson keeping the other 4 safe from lynching/targetting from Day 1 can exist without there being at least one mafia and still be balanced.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm You already responded to my explanation.
You switched targets to someone I believe to be mechanically cleared. I'm going to need you to elaborate.
There was a chance that mafia knew who we were blocking last night, thus having a different member of their team perform the kill. I opted to switch our roleblock because in that event, it was more likely to succeed.

What do you think about the fact that there was no nightkill?

Protector.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:26 pm I guess it doesn't matter if Hyena and TL were voting to block nutella anyway.

This too, but I'll admit it never crossed my mind to try get Hyena to vote TL.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:25 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm Can the punk gang roleblock punk gang members? TH's role card didn't specify.
I have no reason to believe we can't.
Why not vote to roleblock TL then?

1. Because I think punk gang scum is LW and can't kill. I've got a 33% chance roleblocking an OG threader.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm Can the punk gang roleblock punk gang members? TH's role card didn't specify.

I have no reason to believe we can't.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm You already responded to my explanation.

You switched targets to someone I believe to be mechanically cleared. I'm going to need you to elaborate.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm Quin why did you want to roleblock me yesterday?

Non-punk gang members last night included you, nutella and TSP. I think TSP is lock town. Hyena and TL's reasoning for choosing nutella over you wasn't particularly convincing and my current issue with TL sealed the deal.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:13 pm I'm glad you found an assumption to fit your narrative.

why did you change the target?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:09 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:08 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 pm Does a lone wolf know who its teammates are?
i don't know. do you?
What do you think the answer to that question is?

thinking about a marmot/nutella team, so i think you might.

i can just delete it alison if you want to restate what you did.

and that's true, but apparently it's not based on probability. i think funnygurl's role suggests that she's a/the counter to it.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:08 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:59 pm anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.
Is he? I thought the roleblock wasn't 100% and had a chance of failing?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 pm Does a lone wolf know who its teammates are?

i don't know. do you?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:14 pm I didn't want mafia to easily see who we were roleblocking assuming they were in our private chat, so I lied when I promised I I wasn't going to change it.

anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:07 pm Things really popped off in punk chat between me+Trustworthy plus Quin.

ok so like

TL believes nutella is lost wolf and that lost wolf will only gain a kill when/if they become the last scum standing

so why does TL insist on RB nutella last night "in case she has a night kill" if he doesn't think shes the last scum standing (hasn't contested the idea of 4 scum, meaning 2 are currently alive)

oh fuck if 4 scum that would clear tsp

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:55 pm I want to have been blocked so people know I didn’t kill Sloonei

We blocked you last night.

could refer to a wolf in the punk gang. thinking about a scum who can't be in scum btsc because they're in gang btsc.

i don't know what a lost wolf is. should i know what a lost wolf is?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:40 pm Marmot + Trustworthy scummates might be a thing.
Trustworthy jokingly called Marmot scum, too, but on reread, it has that "inside joke" kind of feel that makes me feel that they could be scummates. Also, when Marmot asked all of us if we were ready to get into the thread, Trustworthy was the last to answer (pretty much a seconding of what Turnip said as an answer). Quin didn't answer at all.

I agreed with Turnip about keeping us safe when he asked N1, but yeah I didn't say anything. When he asked again last night it was when I was asleep. I'm Australian so I'm basically working a schedule opposite everybody else.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

the only person who might understand my anticipation just blew himself up how bout that

okay im going to go eat cheese toast one last time before sizzler shuts down forever

FG sounds like a counter to punk gang.

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