The Syndicate

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dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:59 pm This is what scum Quin looks like
There's no way I'm re-reading all that.
Put the effort in. I'm up at 3am trying to find better lynch candidates for His Royal Highness the Evil Emperor of The Syndicate. So get reading, buster.

He already did read all that. He was my teammate.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:03 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:47 pm I thought that Quin is just a proud dude, and he had a choice following JJJ's lynch: admit he was wrong and Epi was right, or assert that Epi got lucky with a bad case. Option B is much easier on his ego.

That seems more likely to me than the idea that Quin is a baddie who can't help but leak his anti-Civ opinions into the thread.
He never said I got lucky. If he said that, I could live with that (even if I would disagree, and he would have to address everyone else who voted JJJ as being lucky).

He maintained that my process (my thinking) was bad. That's a different matter. He voted for me. Tried to discredit me. Why would he do that if he and I were working toward the same goal?
Because you're not a fucking confirmed townie.
Who is?

Nobody. That's my point. You don't get to sit on your pedestal and declare "Quin discredited me, the King of Fuck Mountain, when I was right about JaggedJimmyJay! He's obviously bad!". Your argument sucked. Your subsequent arguments have sucked. You pretend that my arguments against your attitude there aren't good enough for you because I didn't repeat myself 67 times or spell out everything to the letter.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:59 pm This is what scum Quin looks like

Epignosis can be my teammate in that game and still decide I become a poor demoralised baddie when my teammate gets lynched. I had two teammates lynched in succession in Mad Max and that only motivated me more.

Of course, his response to this will be "Fuck meta" so I don't know why I bring it up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:47 pm I thought that Quin is just a proud dude, and he had a choice following JJJ's lynch: admit he was wrong and Epi was right, or assert that Epi got lucky with a bad case. Option B is much easier on his ego.

That seems more likely to me than the idea that Quin is a baddie who can't help but leak his anti-Civ opinions into the thread.
He never said I got lucky. If he said that, I could live with that (even if I would disagree, and he would have to address everyone else who voted JJJ as being lucky).

He maintained that my process (my thinking) was bad. That's a different matter. He voted for me. Tried to discredit me. Why would he do that if he and I were working toward the same goal?

Because you're not a fucking confirmed townie.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:42 pm I still like where my vote is and has been for the last two days. You're all welcome to come join me.

Okay.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:35 pm Anyway Quin I know it's tough when you're trying to defend yourself but I would appreciate reads/scum picks. Mostly the latter.

I still scum read Kyle. If he flipped bad I'm throwing DDL's name into the mix as a teammate.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:35 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:22 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:19 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:13 pm I have a grievance with the amount of times Kyle has used his Pirate Mafia performance as a way to fend off suspicion. He played games somewhere else that he's also talked about but I didn't quote them. No, I don't care that most of these are direct accusations about his Pirates performance. I think he's using meta as a shield.
You should care that those were in direct response to meta accusations. Why wouldn't you care about that?
You're rejecting perceptions before easing concerns. You're saying "I wasn't an active force in Pirates" when you should be saying "I'm actually not someone who takes the front line" if what they're saying is false about your playstyle.
You are reaching so hard I think you'll accidentally touch the sun and get burned. Be careful.

I was not reaching. There's no explanation of why he thought otherwise. Just that I'm reaching.

I also find DDL's vote for me opportunistic given his biggest reasoning for voting me is "I do this when bad so Quin probably did this while bad".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:40 pm I just worked a 12-hour day and I'm frankly too tired to expend a lot of energy on this game tonight. Without having read anything in that time, I'm opposed to lynching Quin, although my town read on him has slipped a little bit from where it was earlier in the game. His participation seems to have dropped off and I'm not sure if he ever gave a reason for that.

It's something I'd rather not get into now. I might share if I wind up lynched today.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:43 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:37 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:26 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:01 pm Epi can call my attack on his argument lazy all he wants. That's bullshit. I'm not discussing it with him, because he just wants me to repeat myself over and over. I'm not going to.

And I'm not going to use the exact same angle as 3J knowing it already failed if I'm bad.
I don't give a good doggamn what you think of my argument. I was right. Worship me.
Epi, if you really believe Quin is scum, do you think scum Quin would make a big fuss over your argument of why JJJ is scum, after the event occured and he flipped scum? I mean, does that seem like something a scum Quin would do? Cos I don't know scum Quin very well, but I know no scum I have ever played with would actually do that.
Quin was wrong. He could realize my argument brought about a mafia lynch, or he could double down on his aggravation with my process.

He chose the latter.

Cam Newton doesn't tell Luke Kuechly his play was shit when Kuechly picks off a pass and runs it in for a touchdown.

If Quin and I are on the same team, then he should reevaluate what that means.

I don't think we're on the same team.
you lost me at Cam Newton
Cam Newton is offense. Luke Kuechly is defense. But they play on the same team.

My point is that if Quin was genuinely happy about 3J getting lynched, he wouldn't have criticized me for my effort in that.

He did though. Why? What is he accomplishing that furthers the civilian victory?

What if...your argument deserved to be criticised?

Epi can call my attack on his argument lazy all he wants. That's bullshit. I'm not discussing it with him, because he just wants me to repeat myself over and over. I'm not going to.

And I'm not going to use the exact same angle as 3J knowing it already failed if I'm bad.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:45 pm wait... Quin... I thought you were voting for sig? But your vote is on INH? I'm confused here... going through your posts you went ahead and voted for Sig right away after the deathless night post, then you said that thinking about it you'd rather lynch INH (which is presumably when you switched your vote?) but then later you post a selective ISO of sig's posts that you didn't like and concluded "I'd lynch him." But your vote is still on INH

I voted INH over sig based on activity. That's all. I think there's a good chance they're both bad (but dunya did say something on this I need to go back and read). I did the ISO on sig because he had posts and I didn't want to consider him for a lynch without at least reading what content he had.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:08 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:32 pm Are we talking about the same post here?
Actually no. No we are not. Epi's later post in which he voted Quin is about Sig. You should read it.
It's the same post, he just analyses what JJJ said about sig for a bit, then votes Quin for going after sig?
Ah. I assumed it wasn't the same post because you cut the end off.

@Epignosis We're stupid. Come in here and clarify your read of Quin and your read of Sig.

Yes please.

I also did an ISO of insertGlorfindelhere. Comments below.

I've just pulled some posts that stand out.

Spoiler: show

sig dislikes the nutella wagon but doesn't give an opinion on anyone involved in it besides LC and Epi at any point. His LC talk here is just sitting on the fence.

Spoiler: show

NO U.

Spoiler: show

Put this here because I wanted to say that I agree with what sig's putting down re: EoD2. I don't have any inclination in reading the actual post.

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I'd lynch him. The lack of night kills means more to me than any of that ^.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:59 am Anyone got any good reasons to choose either sig or inh over the other?

Nothing game related persay, but I think I'd rather lynch INH thinking on it. INH is an inactive replacement with a combined 0 posts and sig is an inactive with some posts. I'd prefer INH on principle.

It's worth giving sig a look since he has some content at least. I have enough motivation for that.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:49 am I mean.... it's possible one of the role secrets is a protect or a roleblock but.... 2/5 is a really bad murder success record.

I don't see why a doctor would be a secreted role. A roleblocker is maybe a tiny bit more feasible, but I personally wouldn't write it as a secret. I don't think that's what's happening here.

It'd mean sig and INH were both bad. There's one scum unaccounted for in a sea of people who I don't see missing a PM.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:44 am Is it.... possible the mafia is actually just missing the deadline a lot?

Yes.

I voted sig for this reason.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:43 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:40 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:31 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:13 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:51 pm
don't open that can of worms. She's 100% confirmed Townie. :P
no she ain't

and neither is sloonei, ftr. I do think he's town though.
you say you do think Sloonei is town (I do too). Do you think nutella is town?

Because people alienated me when I suspected her...
She's statistically likely to be town. She'd be a suspect outside of that.
You were clear when you said you think Sloonei is town. Are you basing nutella's towniness on her survival Day 1?
I am. Have you read the arguments made there?
I have. So why aren't you more convinced if you feel the arguments all align in her favor?

Because she only looks good mechanically. And some applicable roles point to someone else's towniness, not her own.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:40 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:31 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:13 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pm

nutella
Well, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.
don't open that can of worms. She's 100% confirmed Townie. :P
no she ain't

and neither is sloonei, ftr. I do think he's town though.
you say you do think Sloonei is town (I do too). Do you think nutella is town?

Because people alienated me when I suspected her...
She's statistically likely to be town. She'd be a suspect outside of that.
You were clear when you said you think Sloonei is town. Are you basing nutella's towniness on her survival Day 1?

I am. Have you read the arguments made there?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:13 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pm

eeegeeggggghhhhh

And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
For whom?
nutella
Well, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.
don't open that can of worms. She's 100% confirmed Townie. :P
no she ain't

and neither is sloonei, ftr. I do think he's town though.
you say you do think Sloonei is town (I do too). Do you think nutella is town?

Because people alienated me when I suspected her...

She's statistically likely to be town. She'd be a suspect outside of that.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:57 pm Well shit. That result is disappointing. And specifically the Chimborazo flip kills a few of my theories on what happened on day 2... but I think there are still more sloonei-civ explanations that make more sense than sloonei-bad ones.
I feel like you are treating this additional information, which could be a crucial piece to solving the game and/or nailing down Sloonei's alignment, as a negative. Sure, lynching a Civ is not good, but this knowledge might help us win.
eeegeeggggghhhhh

And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
For whom?
nutella
Well, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.
don't open that can of worms. She's 100% confirmed Townie. :P

no she ain't

and neither is sloonei, ftr. I do think he's town though.

We could totally almost do it if we wanted to though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:44 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:29 am
For the sake of clarity, why would malakim flipping bad paint bob in a negative light?
It's in that big post I made up there.
I guess that suffices. Do you have any thoughts on bob's response to that?
He didn't really respond to that.

I'll throw this out there.

If anyone had a motive to kill Jack, it would be you- not so much because Jack suspected you, but because he was being suspected, and if he were lynched and was shown to be the role that stopped the lynch the Day you almost got lynched, it could have proved calamitous for you.

There.
One of the first things that crossed my mind when Jack died was that I was being framed, but I usually stay far away from nightkill analysis because it's not a thing I'm good at.

I've been waiting for someone to make the 'Quin killed Jack to shut him up' argument all day.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:01 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:29 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:33 pm @Quin my accusation of you wasn't specifically about your suspect list choices. My suspicion is that your behavior looks like how a baddie would act in an increasingly hopeless situation.
Because my suspects didn't line up with the generic lynch candidates, yeah. I got that.
No no, the point is that you've seemed less motivated lately, despite the fact that we're doing really good.

Maybe I made a mistake in pointing it out, you've been talking about this with me all day instead scum hunting and it's not you can argue with a psychology based theory.
Fair enough. I am just very difficult to motivate.

I moved my vote off you to malakim. I disliked bobs reason for voting you. There are better cases out there than 'I don't agree with him'.
It's not really "I don't agree" it's "I have no idea why you think the case you're laying out makes X scum." And it hasn't just been you, it's been multiple things.

Like what? What makes you think his nonsensical cases are coming from the perspective of scum?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:29 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:33 pm @Quin my accusation of you wasn't specifically about your suspect list choices. My suspicion is that your behavior looks like how a baddie would act in an increasingly hopeless situation.
Because my suspects didn't line up with the generic lynch candidates, yeah. I got that.
No no, the point is that you've seemed less motivated lately, despite the fact that we're doing really good.

Maybe I made a mistake in pointing it out, you've been talking about this with me all day instead scum hunting and it's not you can argue with a psychology based theory.

Fair enough. I am just very difficult to motivate.

I moved my vote off you to malakim. I disliked bobs reason for voting you. There are better cases out there than 'I don't agree with him'.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:33 pm @Quin my accusation of you wasn't specifically about your suspect list choices. My suspicion is that your behavior looks like how a baddie would act in an increasingly hopeless situation.

Because my suspects didn't line up with the generic lynch candidates, yeah. I got that.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:06 pm I'm referring to the thread discussion during and before the time when you listed your two suspects, early night 4. Discussion was about the implications of Jay's flip. Someone asked you for a list of suspects and you said me and Eloh.

I was talking about you asking the same question.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:53 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:42 pmWhy should my suspects match the most relevant ones?
Not match, but include. The thread discussion was about players with potential connections to JJJ, so when you only listed me and Eloh it stuck out to me.

No, the thread discussion was you asking me for my suspects. I think if you were looking for thoughts on specific players you'd have asked me after I answered you. You accused me before that happened.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:27 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:35 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:27 pm
Okay. And why is that scummy again?
It's scummy because a scum quin following a lynch of teammate jay, in a game where his teammates may already under fire, and so many players are difficult to accuse because of the general civvie-trust vibes of the thread, when being asked what his suspects are, might quickly respond with listing two suspected players who aren't on his team.

Why me and Eloh? Why not Cbob or speedchuck or sog or LC. Why specifically list those two players? You weren't specifically asked for 2 suspects.
Now *this* is circular logic. Quin is scummy for naming two suspected players who aren't on his team. How do you know Eloh is town? As speedchuck says why are the other four better? If he had said "Kyle and cbob" or "Eloh and speed" is this somehow now not scummy?
It's not circular logic. I was just explaining it poorly. He specifically didn't mention any of the common and more contemporarily relevant suspects.

Why should my suspects match the most relevant ones?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:30 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 pm*a bunch of stuff you said*
My sarcasm was in response to your "reaching". It added nothing.
The questions at the end of that post also weren't evidence? They were questions for Quin to answer.
My bad, I guess. I assumed those were rhetorical, seeing as how you ended with a statement and not a question.
Quin, you should answer this dudes questions.

I did.

I've been pretty vocal about my suspicions. Reserved is never a word to describe me here.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:17 pm Let me tell you something about my meta, nutella.

Pretty much the only thing I know how to do in mafia is be genuine. I can only play by those standards. My suspicions are authentic or they are nothing. I don't say someone looks bad unless they look bad. When nobody looks bad, I say nobody looks bad. If you ever think I've made something up, reconsider. Because "making things up" is not something I care to do, and not something I'm confident I can do.

That is how I play mafia, both as a civilian and as scum.
If this were word-for-word true then you'd go through every mafia roll game suspecting no one at all.

That is, in fact, how I play every mafia game when bad.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:20 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:49 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:44 pm Hey.... Quin? I also wanna hear your thoughts on LC, Cbob, and Sig too.
Maybe later.

Since you seem to have time now can you respond to this? I don't care if your responses aren't well researched I just want to know what your stance is on those 3 particular gentlemen from what you remember taking place in the thread

I didn't decline from lack of time. But, if you insist.

LC made me feel good.
bob made me feel good.
sig is bad if we're still entertaining the 'all scum were inactive until Day 3' theory.

Let me tell you something about my meta, nutella.

Pretty much the only thing I know how to do in mafia is be genuine. I can only play by those standards. My suspicions are authentic or they are nothing. I don't say someone looks bad unless they look bad. When nobody looks bad, I say nobody looks bad. If you ever think I've made something up, reconsider. Because "making things up" is not something I care to do, and not something I'm confident I can do.

That is how I play mafia, both as a civilian and as scum.

And the part where I've already explained my suspicion of malakim - where did that go?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:02 pm Tbh the way Quin kinda just tagged malakim on as an afterthought when Kyle asked who he might vote for today was super fishy. I'm inclined to go through with the mal lynch today and if he does indeed flip bad Quin will most likely be next on my priority list.

Why was malakim an afterthought?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:35 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:27 pm
Okay. And why is that scummy again?
It's scummy because a scum quin following a lynch of teammate jay, in a game where his teammates may already under fire, and so many players are difficult to accuse because of the general civvie-trust vibes of the thread, when being asked what his suspects are, might quickly respond with listing two suspected players who aren't on his team.

Why me and Eloh? Why not Cbob or speedchuck or sog or LC. Why specifically list those two players? You weren't specifically asked for 2 suspects.
Reaching

That's what I said! Except I didn't actually say it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:44 pm Hey.... Quin? I also wanna hear your thoughts on LC, Cbob, and Sig too.

Maybe later.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:39 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:30 pm You, Eloh and malakim.
what are your thoughts on malakim?

3J's ISO's on Day 4 ended with him giving a conclusive read of some description on every person except for malakim. I'm currently reading into that as though he didn't want to lock himself into any particular perspective.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:35 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:27 pm
Okay. And why is that scummy again?
It's scummy because a scum quin following a lynch of teammate jay, in a game where his teammates may already under fire, and so many players are difficult to accuse because of the general civvie-trust vibes of the thread, when being asked what his suspects are, might quickly respond with listing two suspected players who aren't on his team.

Why me and Eloh? Why not Cbob or speedchuck or sog or LC. Why specifically list those two players? You weren't specifically asked for 2 suspects.

Because I was asked for suspects and I gave suspects. You and Eloh were my suspects.

Maybe not Eloh, actually. One of 3J's biggest lynch targets was Eloh. She's earned some respite through his flip.

Please answer my question.

You, Eloh and malakim.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:26 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:23 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:27 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:45 pm Another point against Quin? His two suspects named after JJJ's drop? Me and Eloh. I think he feels like he's been cornered.
This post seems dumb without the context. Immediately after JJJ's flip we received a fuckload of connections to start making. There were several players who could be linked as possible teammates of JJJ, who had previously been brought up as suspects by many. So it seems weird to me that he specifically and only listed elohcin and me.

I believe Quin named us two on the spot because she and I are were contemporary suspects that aren't on his team.
I named you two because I suspected you well before his lynch. It was not "on the spot".
You were asked the question on the spot and answered quickly.

Okay. And why is that scummy again?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:48 pm I think I'm leaning towards a kyle vote after everything I've read since the JJJ lynch. I spent several days thinking he was civ. But I think I was wrong.

I see some of you are mentioning quin as well. I always seem to get scum vives from him, so I don't like to pursue it much. But I'd be okay with lynching him too. When he is bad, he plays quieter than when he is civ.

Examples please.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:27 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:45 pm Another point against Quin? His two suspects named after JJJ's drop? Me and Eloh. I think he feels like he's been cornered.
This post seems dumb without the context. Immediately after JJJ's flip we received a fuckload of connections to start making. There were several players who could be linked as possible teammates of JJJ, who had previously been brought up as suspects by many. So it seems weird to me that he specifically and only listed elohcin and me.

I believe Quin named us two on the spot because she and I are were contemporary suspects that aren't on his team.

I named you two because I suspected you well before his lynch. It was not "on the spot".

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:45 pm Another point against Quin? His two suspects named after JJJ's drop? Me and Eloh. I think he feels like he's been cornered.

I don't know how this is relevant to anything.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:49 pm Another question for people who are good at analyzing this sort of thing: Why might Jack have been killed? He was still on a lot of people's radar and has been a controversial figure for much of the game.

He was after myself and Quin most recently, as well as malakim.
I think mafia analyzed the day 2 no lynch result (they don't know who Everest is, and neither do the majority of us, but they do know who Sutter Buttes is so that's one advantage over us) and figured Jack must have some important role after we began discussing it a little more yesterday. Why wasn't Jack lynched? Let's kill him. Also he's one of the loudest participants in this game, and has flung shit everywhere it's supposed to and everywhere it's not which is extremely good because it rifles everyone's feathers.

The Daisy kill is slightly weird to me though. Maybe they figured out she was K2 from writing style (and opinions).

But why would they think Jack was the person lynched and not Sloonei?

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