The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:06 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:02 pm Luna/Eloh/Dunya

???

Quin?

quin is always here.

genuinely miss his presence in the games. Quin

I should be able to get into one after semester ends. Most of my time is being lost to my coursework right now.

so when does your semester end?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:47 pm I hope everyone had a good time.

I hope everyone experienced frustration from time to time.

I hope everyone listened to at least one Steely Dan tune.

I hope I win a lot of money this week.

Yes, YES, yes, I hope so too!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 3:08 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:59 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:49 pm I thought NF was your home forum. What's you're home forum, novaselinenever ?

Apparently he started playing in NF, OJ and Syndicate at the same time.

I first met him when a guy named Crugyr started inviting people to play my game and I was full in sign ups, so I basically redirected them all to TS. So nova joined it here. But he already came from somewhere else.

That moment when DDL quotes your typo of you're instead of your and you can no longer sneak an edit.

ha your such a goober

i know right?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:49 pm I thought NF was your home forum. What's you're home forum, novaselinenever ?

Apparently he started playing in NF, OJ and Syndicate at the same time.

I first met him when a guy named Crugyr started inviting people to play my game and I was full in sign ups, so I basically redirected them all to TS. So nova joined it here. But he already came from somewhere else.

That moment when DDL quotes your typo of you're instead of your and you can no longer sneak an edit.

I thought NF was your home forum. What's you're home forum, [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 1:51 pm Also I don't remember whether anyone said anything, and I'm not going to go digging -- but if any mafioso in this game used that deleted post incident against me even for a second, that was bullshit.

No, we were all kind of upset how you took it into your hands and handled it instead of Epi though. I thought that was kinda rude to Epi. I also didn't like the whole leetic accidental mafia flip incident. Another instance where Epignosis was tagged in the game rather than alerted privately to correct his mistake before people can make a big issue out of things.

When the host has a rule to PM him, and people don't, that sucks fun out of the game for both alignment sometimes. It's practically trying to town confirm oneself through the host.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 12:59 pm I think the discussion should be more than just about deadline times: the complaints in this game were about the flurry of activity around the deadline contributing to the feeling of being lost. I think this has more to do with the pacing of a game rather than its scheduling.

Perhaps trying a game with the hammer voting that speedchuck mentioned or implementing an x-number of times someone is allowed to change their vote type of rule could try to help us find balance so people don't always feel overwhelmed at end of day. Just a couple thoughts. The latter is harder to implement if it's a crazy number, but something like 2-3 vote changes a day phase could work.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 1:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:55 am one rule i wish was implemented a lot, lot harder is "always ask questions to the host via PM"

twice i thought the game was at risk of being broken. that would have sucked a lot after all the effort everyone put into it, and it could easily be avoided if people just respected the "don't ask questions in the thread" rule tbh.

I agree with this. I forget what the question was, but I remember an instance in Mountains Mafia (this seems to be our go-to reference here) where a player asked the host a question in the thread and the host gave an answer. The simple fact that the host provided them with a direct and sincere answer told me that the player was town, because they would not have needed an answer to the question if they were mafia.

Mechanical questions can give other players clues about your alignment. Answers to those questions can give further clues. I always request private questions in my games.

Actually, I remember that. The player asked a question in the thread, not even directed to the host, and the host quoted it and answered them. Yes, a mafia would have known the answer to that, so it managed to unintentionally town clear someone because why else would the host have answered them?

And there's a lot of other instances where it isn't appropriate as well.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] - I always lie about "pm'ing the host". Like pm'ing Epi for clarification about what my role can and can't do. It was a fake role. Of course I didn't pm Epi or get a response. That's still within game boundaries and you are getting that "host confirmation" you like without breaking rules.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:58 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:44 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:16 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:13 pm I thought the mafia team was done. Mac lynched Day 1. Jack caught Night 1. That's half the team.

Hello ladies.

Previously on wolfchat...

Mac: Being mafia is so easy.
Jack: Yeah, townies are dumb.

Jack, honestly I think this is rude. We aren't calling you stupid for getting lynched so early and I would appreciate it if you didn't do it either. The game is over, it is what it is, there is no reason to call people dumb.

I think he's just joking, and mostly making fun of himself and Mac for thinking that'd be an easy win then getting taken out so quickly.

yes, i think he was joking too. he never said that in our mafia btsc. i do hate that word though lol.

i won't comment on end of days. but yes, i feel left out completely if i miss one end of day.

i thought i was the luckiest human alive when epi was ending days at 11pm my time. ELEVEN PM! and i was feeling lucky. puts things into perspective, eh? but i always know what i'm signing up to. mountain's mafia was my only exception where i just could not in any feasible way stay up to 9PM mountain time or wherever it is Marmot lives lol.

i do wish we have a few more european time friendly games like the start of this game before epi went back to work.

one rule i wish was implemented a lot, lot harder is "always ask questions to the host via PM"

twice i thought the game was at risk of being broken. that would have sucked a lot after all the effort everyone put into it, and it could easily be avoided if people just respected the "don't ask questions in the thread" rule tbh.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:18 pm I'm talking about all those games I wanna host but I might get a job this month.

If that happens I have no idea how I'll host anything, with both work and uni.

Co-host.

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:14 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:10 pm Y'know, it was pretty obvious when dunya survived N1 Anyway, GG, sorry again for inactivity

I thought the same! I targeted her on night 1 and no one else did. It made me antsy, but I’ve never played with her and she seemed to be accepted as town.

Well, at least mafia won't kill me N1 next game, they'll just push for my mislynch cos I'm still alive past N1.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:11 pm If you can't guarantee that, just ban claiming and call it a day.

I enjoy open setups more these days.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:10 pm Also NFers are lazy as hell and will abuse loopholes even when that is not strategically smart.

I still think the Mexican Standoff is one of the best Mafia games I've played!

I hated the Favorites game in the end, [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention], because it turned into a game of "role claim or be lynched/vigged". That's kinda lame. I'm against those methods.

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:01 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:50 pm BTW Matahari, Eloh never used her power. She made the kill on the night you watched her.

It’s just strange to me that no one looked at my role and thought “Elo must be lying”. I was going crazy when she claimed that lol!

I think the problem was that you had consistently suspected her, and the suspicion grew kind of organically. It was hard to pinpoint when it developed and if it was a cause of your role.

And to be fair, juliets was dying to get Eloh and/or me lynched as soon as you flipped watcher for town (something we weren't expecting at all).

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:52 pm dunya you said something that sounded like you were hinting at having the role that sounded like Elo’s role that she eventually claimed. I made you a lighter Red temporarily while I tried to do the math. But I couldn’t take you out of my POS list. POS= percentage of sureness.
You are a fast talker when you’re bad. I’ll remember that next game!

Ahhh. Not sure what that was. I wasn't even sure what I WAS going to claim. At first, I was going to claim jailkeeper of some kind (it would explain the block). The fact that Jay was saved on N2 and then also came in and said his action failed was like a lifesaver. We knew there was a jailkeeper. Then I started thinking how people would react to a town blocker. The fact I'd blocked townies would have looked bad so I couldn't do it. The doctor was just random bullshit, a final hail mary. I do hate roleclaiming (you can check all my games, I don't like it), so that much was true.

Hope you enjoyed this game a little more than Gossip Girl since you had a very active role

BTW [mention]Matahari[/mention], Eloh never used her power. She made the kill on the night you watched her.

The MacDougall lynch was accidental. I was in too deep when they all decided on him instead of nutella and I couldn't justify having a last minute change of heart. I do feel bad about it, and will reassess my distancing methods for future games in 2020.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:44 pm Here's what you should be doing

I love him!

[mention]Matahari[/mention] - just like Gossip Girl, you were amazing and lethal. Your little paragraphs against me and Eloh shook us in our boots way more than Jay's ISOs (sorry JJJ lol). I told my team you were dangerous from Day 1, but there were always bigger fish to fry lol. I wish we'd killed you sooner cos I knew we were fucked after those red reads of yours. What was that post about where you were moving me to pink?

At least I got to be scum with [mention]MacDougall[/mention] for the first time since we both started playing mafia 8-9 years ago. Too bad it lasted a day and a half before I lynched him.

Yeah. I'm officially retiring from Mafia for 2019 at least.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:34 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:29 pm How... how HOW did you guys end up lynching LONGCON?


Now I know why I was lynched, that shit would not have flown with me at all. LC was clearly town. And I didn't even read endgame, I saw the poll and knew immediately dunya was bad because civ dunya would never have voted for LC in that situation.

Also I wished I was still alive so I could tell you I had been blocked. But I hadn't been sure until the night I died.

My reaction to dunya moaning about not wanting to be wrong about luna again

Literally who the fuck cares about that in lylo.

I genuinely felt bad about Luna. Eloh suggested we could lynch LC instead and I agreed, cos I'd feel less bad about lynching LC at endgame than Luna. Plus it would be funny. And it kinda was funny, sorry LC.

I'm sorry I stressed you, Luna. I genuinely felt bad you were defending yourself all day.

Thanks for hosting, Epi. Very cool set up. The game was challenging and seriously fun and I feel like it could have swung both ways. I mean, me and Eloh had given up several times in the scum chat and just said we'd have fun till we got lynched, that's all we could do with Mata's watches looming over us and juliets not dropping it. I was >this< close to throwing my towel in the other day before I came up with that fake role claim lol.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:09 pm Dunya: I dont like being mafia
Dunya: I wish I was killed already
Speed: vote dunya
Dunya and daisy: wtf

Lol.

I really don't like being mafia on here. I don't know if I've stressed this enough. It takes a lot out of me to lie to people I love and sometimes frustrate them. I hate doing that intentionally.

After Mac got lynched, I felt guilty. After Jack got red peeked, I felt guiltier.

Wow, Mata saw me. I'm glad. I thought I was losing my touch...

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:50 pm @nutella I tried to save N1

I blocked you. Who did you jailkeep N2 and N3?

I'm sorry everyone. I hated lying. I really think rolling mafia is the worst thing that could possibly happen to me and was praying for a vig kill. A role madness Epi game without a vig kill though...

I'm sorry most of all to juliets for frustrating you with my tinfoil and suspicion but I had to...I couldn't seem weak in front of your very correct assumptions.

[mention]Matahari[/mention] I would love to know if you had watched nova when I killed him?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:36 pm Sorry, I got news in the middle of that EOD that one of my good friend's father died and I was trying to deal with that, my mom, and EOD.

Oh man, jules, I'm really sorry. Sending you infinite hugs and love.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:32 pm How did you guys let them ... unbelievable. Sorry I wasn't here.

Fake or genuine? I can't tell...

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:29 pm If it's dunya I'll never forgive myself.

Me neither, but I can't handle being wrong about Luna in another end game.

[mention]Elohcin[/mention] are you here?

Fuck. I feel something about Luna has been so genuine. I mean that post where she said why she believed speedchuck because he wouldn't be "cruel" to her just felt so sincere and true.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

juliets would you rather lynch LC over Luna today?

I am feeling so indecisive considering this is the same place I was in Space Force and I lost that game for everyone.

What happened in BTSC exactly? I didn't get invited since I always had more posts than him

I don't feel confident yet. I'm still rereading and rereading. I frigging suck at mylo and lylo.

LC has peculiarly ignored Kites...except for one post on Night 5 semi defending Kites from Daisy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:42 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 12:27 pm

Kites wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:00 am I was also very confused at first reading people celebrating a civ lynch lol

At first? When did you come in the thread?

This is a good catch...

Why is this a good catch? When I first came to the thread, the host post was already corrected, and I saw Juliets' comment about how it was the unfortunate right thing to do, or something... I was confused as well.

Granted, LC has a total of 60 posts so it doesn't mean a whole lot but still. It's peculiar to me and drew my attention when I was seeing the compatibility between LC and Kites potentially.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:48 pm oh. I didn't know it had to be a role thing. couldn't LC have just been the messenger?

LC's role is on the first page.

I'm reading LC now.

Oh shit, my vote will make a tie if I do vote Eloh.

I just can't vote Eloh today. Her emotional posts and the fact she and her teammates never used her role leaves way too many question marks for me in MyLo.

I was tinfoiling harder on juliets until Luna pointed out that killing thing in her role. She's right, no one town has a killing ability that we know of and we've all role claimed. I don't know if Epignosis has ever created a game and then randomized alignments later like LC mentioned. Is there any evidence of that?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:26 pm oh hi dunya, I was just about to point out you haven't voted yet. Where are you leaning?

You. Juliets. Eloh. Kites.

I don't want a repeat of the shitty feelings I felt after Space Force so I'm really trying to see anyone else in a worse light than you.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:28 pm dang it, I want to vote Long Con, but so much about that doesn't make sense.

Tell me why Long Con?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:20 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:17 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:38 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Probably dunya.

No way. None of that theory makes sense.

What changed from that ^ to voting for me, @Lunalee (skimming your ISO, I don't have time for a full blown case but I'll ask questions as I go along)

I suspected spacedaisy more than you, but with her elimination you have become a larger suspect. Also with the strange relationship you and daisy had going on at EOD (her pity-voting you because you wanted out of the game) I do not put it past you to pity-kill daisy to keep her from being in this stressful mylo position.

I never kill people based on personal preference. I choose not to kill people based on personal preference. And I don't think Daisy was stressed at all. She was making fun of me because she knows the extent of stuff I have happening in real life atm and probably thinks I'm crazy to be this invested in a game. I am crazy. When I sign up though, even if I decide to be a warm body initially, I always feel guilty and feel like I owe it to the host who put effort into creating a game and people counting on me to make an effort. That shouldn't be alignment indicative for me and I'm not trying to make it.

I'm trying to tell you it's not me and if it's not you and it's not me, it's someone else. Who is it?

I saw you explained why Kites today, so you ignore that.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:50 pm If we're going to hot-potato somebody, I think Kites is a fine option.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:59 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites

Don't you frweking dare

somebody better frweking switch then

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:02 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:01 pm Cool. Whew.

Y'all better figure things out (and there better only be two scum)

so sad

These are the posts that triggered me, Luna, and made me feel like some one sided TMI after speed flipped. Those are really strong reactions.

Also, why Kites at the time? I don't think you said anything about why him.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:38 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Probably dunya.

No way. None of that theory makes sense.

What changed from that ^ to voting for me, [mention]Lunalee[/mention] (skimming your ISO, I don't have time for a full blown case but I'll ask questions as I go along)