The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:16 pm it's not a big thing but there was that one post LP posted "can everyone stop being so scummy" etc

i feel mafia have an easier time townreading townies, the genuine "everyone is scummy right now" is harder to justify coming from TMI imo

as such, i don't want to yeet LP today.

Because of one post?

I hear Hitler was an excellent artist.

(Yes, I know I just brought hitler into an argument, Godwin’s law and all that)

no, scotty, not one post.

she has struggled making town reads all game. go over her iso.

the post just illustrated her continued struggle.

personally speaking, i have a much easier time justifying town reads vs mafia reads when i'm mafia.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:16 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:16 pm it's not a big thing but there was that one post LP posted "can everyone stop being so scummy" etc

i feel mafia have an easier time townreading townies, the genuine "everyone is scummy right now" is harder to justify coming from TMI imo

as such, i don't want to yeet LP today.

@Urist @NotAnAxehole @Dolby

why those three and not myself, syn, and raskol? Because the 3 of us are also pushing for an LP chop today.

because those three asked me or engaged with me specifically about why i am not voting LP in the last hour.

can someone link me to 1 or 2 direct isos were @Le petit poussin was mafia?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:16 pm it's not a big thing but there was that one post LP posted "can everyone stop being so scummy" etc

i feel mafia have an easier time townreading townies, the genuine "everyone is scummy right now" is harder to justify coming from TMI imo

as such, i don't want to yeet LP today.

@Urist @NotAnAxehole @Dolby

it's not a big thing but there was that one post LP posted "can everyone stop being so scummy" etc

i feel mafia have an easier time townreading townies, the genuine "everyone is scummy right now" is harder to justify coming from TMI imo

as such, i don't want to yeet LP today.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:14 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:13 pm i didnt feel LP was acting how she acted in goc. @NotAnAxehole

was lp town or scum that game

scum.

i didnt feel LP was acting how she acted in goc. @NotAnAxehole

stiff*

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:48 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:04 pm killing dya is bad.

This is the last thing dunya said about dya, which does not look like she wants to kill them

i don't.

i did have concerns about a post they made sod2, i read it as an exaggeration of the thread state to cause a different narrative at the time and that made me feel uneasy.

they explained what they meant and i'm ok with the explanation.

they have given good town reads and i'm satisfied with those in alignment with my own.

they're displaying some resistance in town reading me and that's fair, i'm not playing exactly to my old meta anymore and i expect resistance (but also not calling me open wolfing cos i make a few jokes come on).

i did feel good about their d1 entrance, i just feel they're a bit more stuff d2 and i want to get there on them which if they're town i know i will.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:49 pm Friendly reminder that Wilgy froze and hasn't posted since I dropped the hammer on his ass

yes king

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:48 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:46 pm I am claiming full credit for disintegration of the Dunya wagon. You're welcome.

you may live to regret those words when they start saying we're w/w

If you think I will live with regret, then you don't understand the first thing about how I live.

true as soon as a mafia game is over, it's out of sight and mind.

except that time i tried to strike a deal with urist and he blew over my wincon :P

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:46 pm I am claiming full credit for disintegration of the Dunya wagon. You're welcome.

you may live to regret those words when they start saying we're w/w

dya/NAA never w/w at least ;p

@Marmot what happened to wanting to eliminate me today?

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:43 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:41 pm someone tell me why NAA is town

because in the space of 10 minutes he's gone from not wanting to kill me to wanting to kill me as thread consensus has shifted that way

he derped

hard

I'm not even sure if TSP was saying it as a joke or not but he spent like 4 hours not realizing he could've used a second CP last night and I think it was genunine

i think NAA is town based on tone and no agendas in his reads, but pls don't ever derp clear him. him and urist are not allowed to be derp cleared.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:39 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:38 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:36 pm dunya is self voting, we must punish this

i'm not upset, i know a bad day 1 from t!dunya survives till the end as a mischop.

i am doing it for town health.

I don't believe this benefits thread or town health if you're town and it's the worst game to do it in to since someone can just poison you tonight if they want

but i someone can unpoison me and fuck up with everything again!

i also think dolby is town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:36 pm dunya is self voting, we must punish this

i'm not upset, i know a bad day 1 from t!dunya survives till the end as a mischop.

i am doing it for town health.

2 more to hammer me!

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:13 pm I think resolving LP is more of a likely hit than funya today tbh

either commit to me being town or yeet me today.

but damn you guys are terrible for blood pressure, dangling me around like "dunya gotta be resolved but not today"

no, resolve me now and be done. i'm not bringing anything more to the table than the ~300 posts i have. if you can't commit based on those posts, then i'm likely mafia and get rid of the noise.

You’re saying this isnt AtE but also are getting frustrated that you’re not being universally Townread for open wolfing all of day 2.

I appreciated what you’ve done looking at wilgy. More of that, less of falling on your sword pls

i'm frustrated how i play is called "open wolfing" by you. that's annoying, yes. i breathe - i'm wolf. i post something - i scumslipped. it's a lot. i've contributed plenty, so to summarize it down to "all you did d2 is open wolf" well that is demotivating actually.

if i want to have fun with friends in the middle of everything, i don't see why not and i plan to continue playing with my meta until i enjoy playing.

i made an error in misreading creature: this sets up a scenario where i am dangled around as dunya is wolf all game for that. i want out-- better for town.

You saying you have scumslipped and outright admitting you are wolf is openwolfing.

It doesn’t mean I think you’re wolf for it.

More like: A sheep in wolf’s clothing, as it were

it's sarcasm, actually. i'm being sarcastic.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:13 pm I think resolving LP is more of a likely hit than funya today tbh

either commit to me being town or yeet me today.

but damn you guys are terrible for blood pressure, dangling me around like "dunya gotta be resolved but not today"

no, resolve me now and be done. i'm not bringing anything more to the table than the ~300 posts i have. if you can't commit based on those posts, then i'm likely mafia and get rid of the noise.

You’re saying this isnt AtE but also are getting frustrated that you’re not being universally Townread for open wolfing all of day 2.

I appreciated what you’ve done looking at wilgy. More of that, less of falling on your sword pls

i'm frustrated how i play is called "open wolfing" by you. that's annoying, yes. i breathe - i'm wolf. i post something - i scumslipped. it's a lot. i've contributed plenty, so to summarize it down to "all you did d2 is open wolf" well that is demotivating actually.

if i want to have fun with friends in the middle of everything, i don't see why not and i plan to continue playing with my meta until i enjoy playing.

i made an error in misreading creature: this sets up a scenario where i am dangled around as dunya is wolf all game for that. i want out-- better for town.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:22 pm I'm fully in camp: leave Dunya for LyLo

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:18 pm rn I would vote Marmot, but I really don't want dunya to go over (she is shielding me scotty, that would be only bad for me)

do you mean when i flip wolf it will look bad cos i shielded you?


whoops there's my third scumslip.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:16 pm @dunya if we were playing video, I would tell everyone your role and alignment, but unfortunately forum is not as easy. Also I don't read, so that doesn't help.

i cant wait till next next saturday where i MURDER YOU as a wolf

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:13 pm I think resolving LP is more of a likely hit than funya today tbh

either commit to me being town or yeet me today.

but damn you guys are terrible for blood pressure, dangling me around like "dunya gotta be resolved but not today"

no, resolve me now and be done. i'm not bringing anything more to the table than the ~300 posts i have. if you can't commit based on those posts, then i'm likely mafia and get rid of the noise.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:03 pm
Sometimes I just have a feel and it takes three posts to put it to words.

Also since when am I one to pocket like that. You know better Marmot.

I'll just leave this link here where you townread Mac for slanking because he was busy the last time you are a wolf in another game so yes you would absolutely pocket Mac.

marmot with the receipts hot damn

this isn't ate btw, this is a serious strategy. marmot knows what keeping me around till fx in this state means for me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:03 pm i'm ok with dying today, it clears up a lot of question marks people have about me and resolves a lot of tinfoil. happy to be hammered too.

It won't.

it won't happen? how can me flipping not resolve dunya to everyone?

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

i'm serious, in some thread states i am negative energy people can't get over. i'm the misyeet waiting to happen in critical thread states and i refuse to be that. i am sorry for a terrible d1 read on creature that i am SOLELY responsible for--it set me up to be in this situation going forward and i can't actively confirm myself beyond flipping.

so, punish me for that mistake and go on and solve around me.

killing dya is bad.

i'm ok with dying today, it clears up a lot of question marks people have about me and resolves a lot of tinfoil. happy to be hammered too.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:57 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:56 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:54 pm Dya kinda defending Dunya, but not really... Feels really scummy and has very suspicious thread chemistry with TSP

I think the reasons for pushing her are bad. At least, the ones in the thread. I dont have her as town though. She's not...she's not like she was in CoV where we mindmelded hard and won the game for town

So, reading people based on what they've done in game to this point is bad?

i am a sum of my actions, don't judge me just on one

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:54 pm Dya kinda defending Dunya, but not really... Feels really scummy and has very suspicious thread chemistry with TSP

what kinda chemistry?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:54 pm Actually that's a good point. With it being hammer its pretty odd that the votes are tied.
Mafia don't have an insensitive to split votes in a hammer scenario. And if Mafia could easily just switch wagons and hammer right now if both Duyna and me are Town.
Conclusion Duyna is even more likely to be Mafia since Mafia voting her or me could hammer right now if they wanted by just switching wagons, but their not so they have incentive to keep Duyna alive.

this is a 1 dimensional conclusion in the sense why wouldn't mafia keep two t/t wagons ? i would.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:43 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:38 pm what has jack contributed to the game?

More important question, is he town or scum?

well i'd like to know what he contributed first to determine that!

The first thing I see when I pull up his ISO is an extended back-and-forth with you, so you tell me.

i want anyone who isn't me to weigh in is the point of the exercise.

jack hasn't done anything but talk about how bad i am. as usual.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:38 pm what has jack contributed to the game?

More important question, is he town or scum?

well i'd like to know what he contributed first to determine that!

what has jack contributed to the game?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:34 pm Syn is in this game?

he was d1. like you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:33 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:20 pm

Spoiler: show

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:19 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:49 am game is hard

drwilgy
tsp
jack
sig

no reason to townread them

tinfoil:
dya
LP
dolby



i actually think urist is town.


if scotty is town, i suck at mafia 2 games in a row.

Dunya as town never does this therefore Dunya is a wolf game over

Never does what?

Makes a bad reads list

This is an invalid statement given that it's Day 2 and we have no wolf flips.

Dunya’s readslist is that the wolves are

The two people pushing her (no evidence given)
The zero poster
And Wilgy


This does not inspire confidence

Ok that's valid.

Dunya, that probably isn't the wolf team.

i am aware, my friend.

that's why i said "game is hard"

i'm being fooled.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:30 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:29 pm btw thanks for answering @dyachei that helps me know more where you're coming from in context

do you think scotty is town?

his posting has been better today but I still have a weird feeling from how he treated syn's push on him yesterday that felt scummy

do you still feel good about syn?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:28 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:27 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:24 pm i do not want to spearhead wilgy's wagon, so stop agreeing with me and do your own homework.

is this guilt

it's annoyance, tbh. i'm annoyed by people who voted for creature without believing creature was mafia.

that's bad.

What other reasons did they vote for creature?

idk, ask jack and drwilgy and dolby why they voted for creature.

drwilgy was defending the gloom in creature and decided to vote there to save scotty.

i did iso dolby earlier today but i don't recall if it was a cold hard case on creature.

jack was ready to swing both ways for raisins unknown to me

btw thanks for answering @dyachei that helps me know more where you're coming from in context

do you think scotty is town?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:24 pm i do not want to spearhead wilgy's wagon, so stop agreeing with me and do your own homework.

is this guilt

it's annoyance, tbh. i'm annoyed by people who voted for creature without believing creature was mafia.

that's bad.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:24 pm i do not want to spearhead wilgy's wagon, so stop agreeing with me and do your own homework.

I'll spearhead it.

i believe in you

i do not want to spearhead wilgy's wagon, so stop agreeing with me and do your own homework.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:18 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:17 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:04 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:41 am it's becoming increasingly likely that the reason sig is alive is a lot of people didn't know they could kill him

It is entirely possible Mafia sent one person to try and kill Sig and the ability just wiffed.
Its also possible that Sig is Mafia so they left him alive.
It's also possible that no one even noticed Sig was in the game...

nanook posted at the start of the night that sig was eligible to be killed by warrior L2.

Wait they did?
I legit ddin't even notice that either. Man Sig is a lucky person.

it was in the discord announcement.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:49 am game is hard

drwilgy
tsp
jack
sig

no reason to townread them

tinfoil:
dya
LP
dolby



i actually think urist is town.


if scotty is town, i suck at mafia 2 games in a row.

Dunya as town never does this therefore Dunya is a wolf game over

it's frustrating when people say "dunya as town never does x"

but you're a wolf, so i'll be more chillax.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:12 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:08 pm dunya, why are you a wagon, are you a wolf?

yes, i scumslipped at least twice and everyone has a clear read on me and urist advocates everyone lets me get away with dumb stuff and that's why i win games, so he isn't letting me get away with my dumb stuff.

hop on my wagon

Also, dunya would kill Mac because Mac would catch wolf!dunya by Day 3. Has that case been made yet?

no! good catch.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:08 pm dunya, why are you a wagon, are you a wolf?

yes, i scumslipped at least twice and everyone has a clear read on me and urist advocates everyone lets me get away with dumb stuff and that's why i win games, so he isn't letting me get away with my dumb stuff.

hop on my wagon

i knew sig was in the game.