The Syndicate

Luna's "lie detect" would be a night action if she sends the post during the night.

Kites wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:45 pm no I haven’t claimed, no reason to do so

Yeah wait till you're on the chopping block the mafia force your hand to.

I'm looking at you speed.

Epi didn't tell me my role failed like he did in N3, because either it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things and I didn't even have a protect that night. So I assumed (until N5) that I actually had doctored LC.

N2 my role did not fail. I doctored LC. I kinda assumed the mafia took the risk to kill him same night instead of playing a guessing game with the doctor to squirt away from the no double targeting rule. I thought the no kill was because of me.

N5 I discovered I didn't have a doctor on N2 because of the double nights. My theory failed. I began to believe JJJ was jailkept making the kill hence why I was so skeptical of him.

My role failed N3. Nova jailkept me (I won't say PROTECTED) on N3.

My clock on here is wrong

Well, it's done. A role claim, no protection and no speed lynch. What a day.

Eloh isn't even here to self pres vote. Lame.

speed also makes sense as a teammate with most people (even, shockingly, Luna)

Did he even answer you about his issues with Luna, [mention]juliets[/mention]

This is typical mafia speed. Lay low in the end. Breeze by.

He's opportunistic. Mafia with BTSC that can invite townies. That whole thing where he claimed Luna was a role cop instead of lie detector but can't go back to "check". Doubting that JJJ "deleted post" when he actually knew Luna was a lie detector.

Lynch speed.

[mention]Kites[/mention], give Eloh a chance to be proven with Luna's ability. She actually claimed and has never used her power! Lynch speed!

I can't believe speedchuck just disappeared. Welp.

[mention]Kites[/mention] HELP ME

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] if you're not mafia, please take your vote off me please

By if you survive the lynch I mean "if you are not lynched"

Obviously since LC skipped Day 2, so was my ability to fuel up my nigh power.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:29 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:22 pm My role stipulates I can only "protect" someone, when I don't have suspicion on me. I.e. no votes.

Amazing isn't it?
And this is where the Mata confusion comes in. I thought Night 2 I could still protect someone. I protected LC. No kill. I thought, well that was obvious. When Mata went hard on me for inconsistency, I made sure with Epi my Night 2 went though (since we didn't have a Day 2). He said no. He didn't tell me I failed, since I wasn't actually allowed to protect anyone in the first place. I only earn a protection by having a clear slate in the lynch poll. I thought Mata was a blocker in the end, and had blocked me on Night 2 (I wouldn't know since I didn't have a role). I tried to clarify that before she died.
Ok I'm trying to understand. So when you said you knew what might have happened night 2 was that before you knew your protect didn't work?

Yes. I didn't know my role didn't work n2 until n5. I posted in here when I asked Epi about it. I misunderstood something in my role thinking it was some "smart" way of saying "if you survive the lynch, you get to protect someone". That's why when people said they have clever role distinctions I was like eh, mine is pretty straight forward.

I do think Eloh's lynch is way too easy and I do believe her when she says she didn't use it based on how many times we asked itt if anyone's been targeted by it and nothing..

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:27 pm Let's say Elo's role is real. can someone tell me why this would be a civ role?

Is it possible it's role cover?

I am not a fan of role speculation of what can and can't be, so I won't comment.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:29 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:26 pm If we move our votes will it help, like if there are no votes on you at poll close?
dunya

Yes. But who's going to protect me?

I really didn't think I was going to be on the lynching block today. I hoped I'd have at least 1 more night.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Opportunistic.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:22 pm My role stipulates I can only "protect" someone, when I don't have suspicion on me. I.e. no votes.

Amazing isn't it?

And this is where the Mata confusion comes in. I thought Night 2 I could still protect someone. I protected LC. No kill. I thought, well that was obvious. When Mata went hard on me for inconsistency, I made sure with Epi my Night 2 went though (since we didn't have a Day 2). He said no. He didn't tell me I failed, since I wasn't actually allowed to protect anyone in the first place. I only earn a protection by having a clear slate in the lynch poll. I thought Mata was a blocker in the end, and had blocked me on Night 2 (I wouldn't know since I didn't have a role). I tried to clarify that before she died.

653 posts, I'm disgusting.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:18 pm This is baddie lolcatting. Did I say that right?

You did say it right, I'm sorry, I'm just not in the mood to take the game "seriously" after 600+ posts or whatever. Also you guys outed me so I'm dead woman walking.

My role stipulates I can only "protect" someone, when I don't have suspicion on me. I.e. no votes.

Amazing isn't it?

I'm the town doctor. Now go back and reread me and form new opinions on how a doctor dunya plays.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:11 pm Look at their votes right now.

Luna, tell me why you don’t think they could be teammates?

Tell me why you think we COULD is a better question.

Everyone's town clearing people left and right and it makes me so angry lol. There's no reason anyone is except LC at this point

Because I felt like you had an agenda since Mata's death to make me look bad.

Also I already know speed is your teammate so...

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:04 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:00 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.
You have that all wrong. Why would I think you're mafia if Elo flips town? You've defended her a lot.
And who are you going to look at if Eloh flips town?
I will look at everyone left and I would urge everyone to do the same. If she flips town it is back to ground 0 for me. Also, it would show me that maybe mata wasn't giving an informed opinion of you two.

*Insert less hostile emoji of dunya banging her head on the wall* lol

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:00 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.
You have that all wrong. Why would I think you're mafia if Elo flips town? You've defended her a lot.
And who are you going to look at if Eloh flips town?

Also obv you're going to accuse me of TMI.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:00 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.
You have that all wrong. Why would I think you're mafia if Elo flips town? You've defended her a lot.

And who are you going to look at if Eloh flips town?

Playing the game this way is refreshing, [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]. I get it now. I think dunya has finally understood.

When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.

But she could be mafia in this game, yes.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:55 pm so @dunya you believe daisy could be bad?

Spacedaisy is one of the best people I know. The goodest of good. The Goodiest.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:53 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.
Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?
You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.
Lmao, how is that pro-mafia? They know all their roles. We know nothing. They are the ones who have something to hide.

Because mafia don't know my role.

Or anyone elses before they willingly roleclaimed.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?
Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.
LOL, you're not on the lynching block (yet), but the way you pushed Eloh to claim I thought you would have already claimed by now. You just did that because she was getting lynched then?

Yes. Please understand I'm anti-roleclaiming in any alignment. That's important for me.

But I watched Mongoose get lynched on Day 1 of Gossip Girl because she didn't roleclaim. I become pro-roleclaiming in those situations.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.
Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?

You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?

Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

I was hugging her for her reasons of thinking I'm overwhelmed and need to exit the game. You are always hugged by me

Also, because clearly we're w/w. And this is a plot.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:38 pm You know what, I am going to switch my vote back to dunya.

Kites wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:21 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:02 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:53 pm Okay, I can't read all of this...no time. I am the Do it Again role. I don't see how claiming this helps me, but there it is. I have not used it at all this game b/c I have felt it would not help the civs.
I don't believe this.

this is a role crafted by your husband. you played the game because he wanted you to. I don't believe you would just not use the role he spent time creating.
I don’t know about you guys but the parts I bolded here...
daisy’s reasoning here sounds reaaally... wrong. The host is her husband yeah... but she’s not required to use the power, not any more than the other players

It’s late and my English is crappy I can’t put what I’m trying to say in words. Eloh is my top suspect but this daisy post stinks bad bad bad, especially because she seemed reluctant to vote Eloh at first
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:23 am Why are people so certain of Elo? I'd rather we had some conversation about this especially since she got railroaded in the past and I don't want to see that done to her again. Let's at least talk this through...

@dunya what do you think of this

It's a bad reason. I believe Eloh's claim. I can see a civilian Eloh choose to not use a role that can hurt townies.

I'm going off for the night. And my mom's birthday is tomorrow so I hope someone has mercy on me tonight and just kills me. Feel free to hot potato me as well. You have my blessing.

Eloh, you haven't given me 2 suspects. I'm thrilled you think juliets is bad but who's bad with her?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:03 pm I was replying to dunya but somehow put in elo's post.

You were actually replying to Eloh.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 4:56 pm dunya - I didn't use my role on anyone b/c I didn't want it to affect the civs badly. I felt like even putting it on someone I suspect woudn't be good as it says that the person will target the same person again. For instance, let's say the insanifying role was bad, and I targeted the person with that role. Then the same person would be insanified for TWO days. That for sure can hurt the civs esp with so many inactive players as it was. I don't know. Maybe if you have the role, you could think of a way to make it work in the civs favor, but I couldn't.

Fair thoughts. Who's bad? Give me 2 names.

I'm feeling crazy here guys.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 4:44 pm I will assess where I am with everyone left after Elo flips. I'll spend tomorrow on it.

You can't even give me 1 reason unrelated to Mata? After everything you've said since Mata's death? That's also crazy to me.

Does the fact she has a role and didn't even use not even sway you? That's crazy to me.

Someone needs to address the role claim. Why is no one giving a shit?

Juliets needs to answer my last post to her. Clarity, I want clarity.

I can't be around and we have less than 3 hours to do things.

Eloh, why didn't you think of targeting one of your suspects with your power?

[mention]Elohcin[/mention] cast a vote please. We need 7.

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