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by MacDougall
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:24 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Game Over]

tutuu wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:58 am Gg i had a ton of fun i hope u all had fun too

Sorry if i got too annoying at times

@MacDougall sorry for going too hard on u i thought theres 0% chance ur town
lol it's fine
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:57 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Game Over]

staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:57 pm this was quite the game that i have lots of feelings about tbh
you played so good.

all the mafia did.

@Spacedaisy I vote mafia win on the hof tbh.
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:55 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Game Over]

Baudib1 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:47 pm Welp. Mistakes were made.

This should be considered a mafia shutout tbh.
I agree.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:55 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

sig wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:49 pm Voters: tutuu, lucy, DrWilgy, Creature, Jackofhearts2005, Bereft, Porscha

Do we really REALLY believe every single town member is voting as a block right now I mean come on.

I’m 100% convinced SPF isn’t mafia and IF we believe there’s mafia between these two it has to be Mac.
I can't be mafia from your perspective with how I played eod yesterday and have shielded you. Way to out.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:52 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Bereft wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:13 pm Mac's statement isnt accurate, either SPF isnt outed or Seanzie did a bad.

It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.

Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.

The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
I'm just saying there's no way I can see that Lucy doesn't have confirmation that SPF/myself drew Judgement and I didn't. And if SPF did then Creature is either zealot or SPF/creature are mafia together.

I'm not even saying SPF is mafia. I'm just saying she drew the Judgement card.

And I'm not posting more cuz I don't want to cap like I did yesterday.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:49 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

sig wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:48 pm @MacDougall are you now under the opinion that SPF is mafia?

Also what changed your thoughts from like Day 3 or 4 when you suspected them to town reading them
I am of the opinion SPF drew the Judgement card yes.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:16 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm Okay I just read all the roles and the only world SPF is not outed is if Creature is literally Zealot and drew the Judgement card but didn't use it.
but yeah sure maybe im just bad and woflsiding and mac is mafia regardless of anything else because the reasoning in this post is bullshit and mac has already explained why it is bullshit multiple times today
Well yes and no. Yes in that I have but no in that I'm mafia lol. I just stopped to read all the cards.

Lucy is pretty obviously saying she Oracle'd you me and Seanzie and one of us had the judgement card. I didn't, and I doubt Seanzie would have stopped the chop? I can't really see how Lucy can be wrong about it so unless you had the judgement card and didn't use it and Creature is Zealot I can't see how you didn't have it? I know you can't claim so it's bad. But like if this is all true I just want to sort Creature first anyway?
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:12 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:25 pm
lucy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia
So why Mac
:ponder:
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:05 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:02 pm mac, vote spf and trust me please. read my arguments and fucking assume i'm a the five head that's correct

@Porscha vote spf, you haven't, iso jack and me today for your catchup on mech if you are still confused and questions etc
You are certain Creature cannot be Zealot. Please eli5 this to me.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:55 am Btw

Temperance - Balance, Moderation, Patience, Purpose. If the player who draws this card chooses to play it, a number of living civilians equal to the number of living mafia members will be randomly chosen. The posts made by each during the following day phase will be added up and compared. If the totals are balanced within 5 posts of each other, the player who drew the Temperance card will be granted one alignment check. If they are not in balance within 5 posts of each other, the player will only be told how many total players were tallied. As this card has no useful purpose for the mafia, if a mafia member draws it, their night kill becomes a strongman kill for the following night.

Town should probably try to coordinate to ensure this card is playable moving forward.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm Okay I just read all the roles and the only world SPF is not outed is if Creature is literally Zealot and drew the Judgement card but didn't use it.
Which, if SPF was mafia, is the argument she would be making imo.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Okay I just read all the roles and the only world SPF is not outed is if Creature is literally Zealot and drew the Judgement card but didn't use it.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:32 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Bereft wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am Porscha who has fallen off a cliff
Jack
Wilgy
Tutuu
Dennis

This is my final solve.
Wow that was really easy. I mean yeah. The team is basically within 6 people, zealot within 2.
Not Bereft is now voting alongside nearly his entire POE.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:21 pm
lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm The Judgement card is day playable
you don't think i know?

why do you insist i'm FPSing?
Because he's wolves with SPF and the only way a red peek in Mac and SPF doesn't result in a wolf yeet is if you just pretend the peek doesn't exist. :clap:
Notice how both Jack and Tutuu are doing exactly the same thing. Neither are thinking critically or reading this properly but you can't see this Lucy because you're confirmation biased by bad mech and think their perspective is normal when the correct perspective to have is scepticism and doubt.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:26 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:22 pm
lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm The Judgement card is day playable
you don't think i know?

why do you insist i'm FPSing?
Also Bereft literally said in their post it was played at night and you didn't clarify it was day hence me correcting you. Before you find some one in a million wrinkle how this adds to your confirmation biased brain-dead solve.
you played the mafia alignment well, don't be anymore of a fucking dick about it
I'm town and you are going to look like an absolute moron.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:25 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:21 pm
lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm The Judgement card is day playable
you don't think i know?

why do you insist i'm FPSing?
Because I am town. Holy shit how hard is it.

You are saying I am mech scum. I am literally town Ergo I know you are full of shit.

Literally Higgs Boson level equation needed here.
If you were town, you would take a red peek in Seanzie/Mac/SPF as a red peek on SPF and vote there. Ya outted.
If I was mafia I would, actually. What the fuck is the mafia utility of not cutting bait here?

I am backing my read on SPF over a known FPSer's loose mech shit in a game with redirects where she has been outed town PR since day 1.

I'm not posting again until end of day so I don't precap again. I do hope Lucy decides to stop throwing at some point.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:22 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm The Judgement card is day playable
you don't think i know?

why do you insist i'm FPSing?
Also Bereft literally said in their post it was played at night and you didn't clarify it was day hence me correcting you. Before you find some one in a million wrinkle how this adds to your confirmation biased brain-dead solve.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm The Judgement card is day playable
you don't think i know?

why do you insist i'm FPSing?
Because I am town. Holy shit how hard is it.

You are saying I am mech scum. I am literally town Ergo I know you are full of shit.

Literally Higgs Boson level equation needed here.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:19 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Sabiplz wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:27 pm What is the point of voting outside of creature today? Lucy is chasing her pride read instead of quite literally outted wolf.
There is a chance Creature is just the Zealot and doing so loses the game.

On the other hand Tutuu is literally naked mafia and Jack and Wilgy aren't far behind.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:18 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:16 pm
Bereft wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:07 pm To summarize.

The No Hang means someone played the Judgement card that they received the night before the hang.

The person who received the Judgement card is within Mac/SPF/ ????

And ??? Better be Seanzie or smth otherwise I will flip out.

So since a Judgement card was used, one of Mac/SPF/??? played it.
the part that outs spf and sabi in particular is the interference that i believe occurred, they were very quick to call it me getting roleblocked (too quickly) and mac/spf/sabi used the particular arguments that suggest tmi that i was not telling the truth

1) argument being "lying and FPSing"
2) hail marry by me on personal reads
3) egotistical play

now the problem here is that all of these arguments were presuming the axiom that i was not telling the truth, something too quickly assumed and not actually established. these arguments are all ones that directly cater to what mafia believe happened because they believed i was successfully interfered with mechanically

they believed i was fps'ing so the arguments would work, the arguments were off in that they assumed too much and tried gaslighting me too hard in the face of actual mech

because there is one in mac/spf that clearly implies the other due to threadstate, NK's and everything that has gone on along with my personal reads
The Judgement card is day playable. I asked the host. Maybe you should have too before you FPSed.

Also it's not hard to tell you were lying and TMI doesn't have to factor into it. I know you are because I read my role PM you five head fuck.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:15 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I didn't have anything to do with the creature pile up though. I was tunneling sig not creature. Then sig got all townie. Like... just read posts jeez.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

how the hell did i "literally give up at points"?
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:06 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

what cred does she get from bussing someone who doesn't flip?
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:57 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:51 am Okay I made it to bed but the mental hamster wont stop running

Here is another thought
I am thinking about creature (derogatory) ((wolfy))
Creature has a simple tell. His media posting ratio to post ratio. And it is way off
He has had some mildly redeeming moments but also times where he desperately needed to be redeemed
Ultimately mac I did not consider that a town creature could have used judgment to save himself because I am not nearly as charitable in my reading of him as you here
So in my eyes it was
1) Creature was zealot, still dont understand any reasoning as to why he cant be
2) Creature was wolf who wolves saved
3) Creature was wolf who a town saved
4) Creature was town who a town saved
5) dont think creature would be town who wolves save
So since 3/4 of those options include him being a wolf I am still inclined to believe that's quite possible
And that also loops back into my issue with tutuu/spf, cuz I fear creature could have been getting bussed and that would point to spf and not tutuu in that world
SPF's meta read on Creature is accurate and shows town solving mindset. It also dates back to day 1. It's not like there was some sudden opportunism there. And outing Creature to bus him so he doesn't flip isn't really something wolf SPF needs to do as opposed to like killing a scummy town, which wouldn't have been hard.

I've seen no opportunism from SPF really at all.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:54 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Yes I just reread his iso and have come to the conclusion I'm townreading him as one of my patented idiot re-evaluation.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:49 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Seanzie wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:09 pm Here's the patented Mac rub.

A lot of people are less playing mafia with a town process and more throwing out thought bubbles and have perspectives that make my lip curl up and make me wish they were playing a different mafia game I'm not in. I begrudge nobody for suspecting or hating the play of these folks.

Wilgy
Jack
Neon
Tutuu
Seanzie
Falcon
Creature

Then there are people who are just like ... not doing much of anything and aren't really redeemable but for whatever reason it seems like there's a moratorium on suspecting them.

Roxy
Finger
Kate

Then there are some players who aren't doing much but they kinda town.

Bereft
Porscha
Dennis

And then there's everyone else. We shall call them "folks who appear to be playing a game of mafia and not a game of scrabble". I like all of them and if you are voting them ur a nerd.

If your name is in the top group and you are town please have a strong coffee, freshly evaluate the game and make some posts that are designed purposefully to be read and understood by a belligerent old townie person so I can stop hating your existence.

Thanks.
Alison (she/her)
Baudib1 (he/him)
lucy (she/her)
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)
sig (he/him)
staypositivefriend (she/her)

This is the list of people you have as ""folks who appear to be playing a game of mafia and not a game of scrabble". I like all of them and if you are voting them ur a nerd."?

Tell me about Rondo.
That feel when I had most of the scumteam solved day 1 and am alive on day 6 with zero pelts, being scumread for not having killed mafia despite having nearly no control all game because those mafia have been hard wolfsiding since day 1 literally because they had no choice because they got locked into the poe by me on day 1.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:44 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

lucy wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:03 pm It's just really really strange. I don't know how to unpack that in a game where Lucy is being treated as an inno child, and SPF and I are pretty well in our town meta, we're mostly being ignored while the syndicate meme gang all try to kill two players all three of us have been townreading strongly.

I'm just trying to think of a way that the continued existence of the Alison and Baudib wagons exists given the aforementioned and I think the correct answer is that it's either a mix of wrong town with opportunistic scum voting with the,. If Alison and Baudib are really mafia, there is enough town defense of them occurring and town trying to chop elsewhere for the mafia to have easily killed those wagons by now imo.
signal boosting because these thoughts are ones i'm extremely frustrated with
Remember...

Remember...

Gods we were strong back then.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:38 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:31 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:25 am I think it's probably a good thought exercise to consider whether mafia spf and mafia mac would actually interact with each other in this way. Where has been my effort to put distance between us? I've played nothing like my wolf game with her.

I'd be more likely mafia with Tutuu if I was.
Well since I refuse to believe you're wolfing the exercise is trying to see who is giving you the pocket fondle
I'm gonna go with the person who has stopped at lylo abruptly to sheep an obviously bogus mech solve over the person who is maintaining the read when they no longer need to.

Like... why does SPF need to maintain the illusion now? She could just be like wow Mac fooled me lol vote Mac. Much like Tutuu is.

Thats probably another reason we are townreading each other abnormally. It gets to a point where the Mac siding (or in spf's case the spf siding) gets to a point where it no longer has wolf utility so it has to just be town.

Also Tutuu appealed to me aggressively and pockety constantly. SPF just townread me and hardly engaged with me. I know how wolves pocket me and it's a constant job to keep me there.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:35 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:29 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:24 am I've had moments of doubt towards spf. I literally ended d2 voting spf because I was having one of my patented come to God moments and spf mocked me and self voted in response and then the mafia ended the day lol.

I've just been locked into living in the world she's town the whole time because we've had almost the same reads nearly the entire time.
Quirky coincidence innit

Idk. I think just via style alone I probably find spf townier than tutuu in a lot of worldsbut since I lack spf skill I'm trying not to get confbiased because it's getting down to crunch time and I want to believe lucy has all the answers but the reality is we dont have a confirmed 5. And since you and her are at such odds with reads I feel like I am walking 2 dogs who are always trying to go in directly opposite directions and its causing me a bit of trouble
I can see why Lucy thinks Sabi and I are mafia but I am pretty sure that Lucy hasn't read all the posts cuz there was a stretch where Bereft and I were convincing Sabi that our townreads on them were real where Sabi and I were interacting in an obviously unpartnered way. Sabi also engaged me on my Creature read in a very obviously unpartnered way. Lucy is just letting mech overrule reading the content. SPF has made it very obvious why Tutuu is mafia. Her solve is simply not genuine. And at this point the audacity of it actually benefits her because town make points like you made about it being too obvious etc. Tutuu is a very very good wolf. One of the best you will ever play with. I'm afraid this is a lesson people are learning in real time.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:30 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Just reading the judgement card and I'm not even certain when it would be played. If I'm reading it right it looks like it's submitted before the day begins.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:25 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I think it's probably a good thought exercise to consider whether mafia spf and mafia mac would actually interact with each other in this way. Where has been my effort to put distance between us? I've played nothing like my wolf game with her.

I'd be more likely mafia with Tutuu if I was.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:24 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I've had moments of doubt towards spf. I literally ended d2 voting spf because I was having one of my patented come to God moments and spf mocked me and self voted in response and then the mafia ended the day lol.

I've just been locked into living in the world she's town the whole time because we've had almost the same reads nearly the entire time.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:22 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I feel like I'm being obvious town right now.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:21 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:11 am
Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:09 am Okay I am of the unsober variety but allow me to take your hand and try to lead you through a forest path of thoughts and confliction I am having. Sorry if any branches hit you in the face I'm not liable I dont own the forest I am simply existing in it

Okay. If I'm starting where lucy is ic, I thought tutuu was towny, I feel strongly about mac being town, and then following mac's read on spf
This is... ugh
There has to be at least 1 wolf in this solve between tutuu and mac and spf because the red sea might as well have parted with the way this became very divisive between 2 parties of thought, and very quickly
I cannot know how guaranteed Lucy's solve is but if I am stuck between you three based on what is occurring at this moment in time
And I insist on not starting with mac because of my personal read on him
If I'm looking at a possible tutuu/spf w/w world this is very good distancing and theater between them, or I'm more likely to lean into thinking that it's more likely it is a difference check
Now again I dont know tutuu and I am not good at reading spf so maybe a w/w world there is possible BUT just from post content I'm going to hazard its t/w w/t
Now from here I am unsure how to best discern who is most likely the wolf between the 2
Mac I will acknowledge that your point that tutuu appears to have opportunistically jumped on pushes or wagons is... not a good look. And I cant speak on the pocketing. But does a wolf tutuu decide to power wolf by doing nothing other than hopping reads at especially egregious times? And then instantly align with lucy with extreme confidence in lucy? We are getting to the point in the game where numbers are reaching critical levels and wolves will start losing knowledge advantage and be likelier to lose a member. Even if there ends up being a miss today, I think there is a very high chance tomorrow hits a wolf. The way the threadstate is becoming more polarized points to this.

Mac lemme ask you something.... how many worlds do you believe in where you and spf are both town and at no point have you scumread her? Like what would the chances of that be
Yes Tutuu would hard wolfside as a wolf.

The last question doesn't make sense.
Okay but in such an obvious way? Is what I'm trying to point out there
And let me rephrase, I am trying to ask ... okay let me preface my question with the memory I have of you and spf in games together that I have also been in. Not once have you both been town where you also never scumread her
So I am wondering if maybe you should consider that perhaps you have been pocketed not by tutuu but by spf?
How likely do you consider this world
I consider it possible. But spf being mafia with tutuu seems very unlikely and tutuu is very very outed to me. I was literally playing eod yesterday confirmation biased that all the sig voters were mafia and I was trying to bait the last wolf or two to out and try to win there and then by voting sig. But then Creature started posting at the last minute and got super townie himself and kinda threw a spanner into my scheme.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:19 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I might be being super dumb about Creature but something about his posts just pocket me. And he really doesn't seem like he can be with Tutuu. Tutuu also seems to have a lot of sanctimony when arguing with SPF about her and Creature being compatible.

I think Tutuu probably was just being an active pockety wolf with the Creature save attempts and thought sig would go over easily but then sig got super super townie and then I decided to try to bait mafia to vote sig and made myself look scummy cuz Creature didn't die because he had the judgement card.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:16 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 64339

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I think it's probably something dumb like Lucy has had her night actions tampered with throughout the game and it's led her to some weird confirmation biased incorrect solve. Shit happens.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:15 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

I actually don't think it's possible SPF is mafia. Tutuu is outed fmpov and there's no reason for them to be doing this distancing routine if they are w/w because there's no way town wins in that world and it's too winmore for both of them.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:12 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:11 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:55 am Tutuu had wishy washy nonsense reads on Jack and Wilgy early. She townread Dennis for nothing then out of nowhere started tunneling him (cuz he's Zealot).
So you think tutuu hard wolfsides until she decides to try very suddenly bus the zealot?
She never tried to actually get him over. She just hard pushed him (and her other teammates) when she thought she might go over. When her wagon died she went back to not pushing them and pocketing/killing town instead.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:11 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:09 am Okay I am of the unsober variety but allow me to take your hand and try to lead you through a forest path of thoughts and confliction I am having. Sorry if any branches hit you in the face I'm not liable I dont own the forest I am simply existing in it

Okay. If I'm starting where lucy is ic, I thought tutuu was towny, I feel strongly about mac being town, and then following mac's read on spf
This is... ugh
There has to be at least 1 wolf in this solve between tutuu and mac and spf because the red sea might as well have parted with the way this became very divisive between 2 parties of thought, and very quickly
I cannot know how guaranteed Lucy's solve is but if I am stuck between you three based on what is occurring at this moment in time
And I insist on not starting with mac because of my personal read on him
If I'm looking at a possible tutuu/spf w/w world this is very good distancing and theater between them, or I'm more likely to lean into thinking that it's more likely it is a difference check
Now again I dont know tutuu and I am not good at reading spf so maybe a w/w world there is possible BUT just from post content I'm going to hazard its t/w w/t
Now from here I am unsure how to best discern who is most likely the wolf between the 2
Mac I will acknowledge that your point that tutuu appears to have opportunistically jumped on pushes or wagons is... not a good look. And I cant speak on the pocketing. But does a wolf tutuu decide to power wolf by doing nothing other than hopping reads at especially egregious times? And then instantly align with lucy with extreme confidence in lucy? We are getting to the point in the game where numbers are reaching critical levels and wolves will start losing knowledge advantage and be likelier to lose a member. Even if there ends up being a miss today, I think there is a very high chance tomorrow hits a wolf. The way the threadstate is becoming more polarized points to this.

Mac lemme ask you something.... how many worlds do you believe in where you and spf are both town and at no point have you scumread her? Like what would the chances of that be
Yes Tutuu would hard wolfside as a wolf.

The last question doesn't make sense.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:09 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:01 am it's funny really, mafia are going like lemmings off a cliff arguing about about a specific mechanical aspect, spf/sabi/mac all had the same argument to dissuade me about a specific piece of info and spf/sabi overextended and mac is using the same argument not understanding that they're outed. unfortunately for them a mechanically slight of hand occurred and the next 4/5 lynches are now mafia
I can't wait to hear about it in post.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:01 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

My current theory is that town Creature used judgement and saved himself lol.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:56 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:55 am god you're fucking annoying, but this is just a game and we both played correctly
I'm fucking annoying? I'm sorry I'm not the confirmation biased one about to throw.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:55 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Tutuu had wishy washy nonsense reads on Jack and Wilgy early. She townread Dennis for nothing then out of nowhere started tunneling him (cuz he's Zealot).
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:54 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:52 am
lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 am yeah spf/mac/sabi all lockscum
Sabi is now lock scum too?

Why?
read d5 again very closely
I literally just had to shake my head cuz this makes no sense now.

Am I mafia or town here? Why would I need to read day 5 closely to find my teammate wolfy? Wtf.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Btw Dennis is the zealot imo.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Porscha who has fallen off a cliff
Jack
Wilgy
Tutuu
Dennis

This is my final solve.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:52 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 am yeah spf/mac/sabi all lockscum
Sabi is now lock scum too?

Why?
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:51 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

lucy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:34 am Okay Lucy I'm using my one time pass here. I only get one of these trust claims ever. We've discussed this. You know what I'm talking about. I'm breaking the glass.
did you expect this to work?
Well I wouldn't do something that goofy as mafia like ever.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:47 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:52 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:50 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:48 pm (just for fun)

roxy
creature
baudib
kate
sig

I'm pretty much unpaired with all of them except baudib1 who is my top townread.
u unnpaired with roxy?

Image

u a CONJOINED TWIN WITH ROXY boiii
SPF I am pretty sure Creature is never with Tutuu.
by MacDougall
Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:46 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Oh Sabi is another player Tutuu tried to pocket btw.

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