The Syndicate

Kami wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:00 pm @Kami you don't have to retire

honestly carried the game tbf

@Kami you don't have to retire

Gg everyone.

Pfft we did it without you.

@Kami @Syn look at us. We didn't even need the confirmed town to vote.

did we win?

0% Mac
0% Marmot
10% Syn
30% Kami
60% Gavial

I lose to 10%

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:25 am Mac only reason u don't want to lynch me now is cause it implicates you hard so ur saving it for f3?

Or alternatively... I am trying to solve the game and believe Gavial is more likely to be the wolf. Could such an easy explanation be so?

If Gavial dying doesn't end the game the cross vote at f3 is always Kami/Mac even if I have my doubts about Syn. Yay.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:39 pm

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:36 pm Kami/Mac v/w makes a lot of sense too tbh

Ok so they are both V if you flip W.
Got it!

Interesting you had this perspective at the time but now that Kami is using it to argue that it makes me a wolf you have nothing to say about your original impression of the post...

I can't work out which of you make less sense.

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:18 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:06 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:07 am i dont really care if you guys lynch me not game losing but you need to vote mac tomorrow.
The post of deli purposefully calling me v and him w will make it even more obvious they were w/w if u flip me anyways

If your town.
There’s no way we lynch scum today.
Marmot won’t vote Syn and probably won’t vote Mac from the looks of it.

I don't really care if we win today or tomorrow just vote mac f3

If you are town I am gonna need you to retire honestly.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:06 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:07 am i dont really care if you guys lynch me not game losing but you need to vote mac tomorrow.
The post of deli purposefully calling me v and him w will make it even more obvious they were w/w if u flip me anyways

If your town.
There’s no way we lynch scum today.
Marmot won’t vote Syn and probably won’t vote Mac from the looks of it.

see @Marmot its all your fault

The best thing to do is chop the mafia now and if its neither of you you're making it impossible by tunneling me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:16 am Honestly it’s probably better for me to deal with Mac in F3 if they are scum.
Better then Kami and them in F3.
@MacDougall
Can you explain why you didn’t read Syn the way you do now before. Like what stood out as Townie to them before and does it still apply now?

[VOTE: Kami] aubergine

What a strange mentality. What happens to dealing with me in f3 if I am town?

Sounds to me like you know that it's you or Kami today so you're just making shit up to get your vote where it needs to be.

I am reading Syn as probably town but I was confidently reading him town with preflip disassociatives with Marmot. He is more compatible with Creature than he was with Marmot so his clear is not as strong as I thought.

I'm not unvoting you today, this post is outing.

ie. if Gavial and Kami are just going to leave Syn alone and tunnel me instead, and if Marmot is content with Syn, then I'd rather just auto the game towards the people pushing me for bad reasons and lost to potential wolf Syn than expand energy on a foregone conclusion.

@Marmot confirmed town. Seems relatively pro Mac, and pro Syn. This needs to be recognised. This immediately means it's going to be harder to chop outside those worlds and that may not necessarily be a bad thing. At least I can blame him if he's wrong.

@Kami has been tunneling me for near on the entire game. Is putting me in a difficult situation doing so. Refusing to see anything I am doing through positive lenses. Appears to be in Syn/Mac world (if it's not Mac, it's you). Why not Gavial? My gut says this is a town tunneling me, and Esooa's read was the same. When I consider reasons I have had to be sus of Kami, it has mostly been based on omgus, which is irrational and I should look past that. Outside of omgus, Kami just feels like a tunneling town (Miss Sparkles anyone).

@Gavial feels a bit more desperate, nervous, cornered than Kami. What's Kami's path to victory here? Flip me and then what? Die in F3? Gavial is putting forth more effort to appear town. Also putting me top of their POE. Gavial, why would I bother tinfoiling Syn when both the confirmed town, and Syn appear to be reasonably willing to just let me win by killing you and Kami? That line doesn't make sense to me.

@Syn appears ready and willing to commit to just chopping Gavial/Kami. I have tinfoil of Syn, but given the situation (Marmot's reads, the way that Gavial/Kami appear to want me to die), I am going to have a very hard time not just losing to wolf Syn. I did read Syn's mid game earlier today and was left feeling a little bit ... underwhelmed. I thought they were more confirmed than they are. The Creature flip in particular doesn't do as much for their alignment as Marmot being a wolf would have. I could make a pretty decent case on Syn I think. But I'll only bother if we're going to actually chop the dude, which really is up to the rest of you.

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:43 pm Mac calls me wolf all game yet is pushing for gavial today so he can push me tomorrow

transparent tbh

annoying

One day you'll read me right.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:36 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:16 pm Although if Mac is scum it makes sense why they would try and pull the 180 on Syn.

it makes zero sense actually

How?
As scum you would want more options for an ML.

I only need 2.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:21 pm Have you even read any of my posts today Mac? I'm literally confirmed town, but you're listening to the dead townies?

I have. You're also fine with gavial. What's your point?

Day 1 - Mostly bad reads.
Day 2 - Continue to have mostly bad reads
Day 3 - Still has bad reads... but votes for a wolf anyway when I didn't have to.
Day 4 - Still have bad reads but vote for another wolf anyway when I didn't have to.
Day 5 - Now I'm concerned about my bad reads. I don't want to go to f3. I am faced with a situation where I overwhelmingly want to win now because the alternatives are terrible. F3 with 2 of Syn, Kami and Gavial. Please fuck no. If we chop syn today and its wrong town probably loses cuz both gavial and kami seem to want to kill me. I probably can't get syn chopped in f3 cuz Kami/Gavial will probs tunnel me. So even tho I am tinfoiling Syn I think I kinda have to ride or die with my initial read. I think the dead town legacy has been mostly that Gavial is the better chop between he and Kami so I'll start there.

probably gavial then at f3 I am forced to vote based on however you snap.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:39 pm mac what's your preferred chop order

I guess gavial first, but if not gavial, then who? me?

You really want to go to another f3 syn?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:16 pm Although if Mac is scum it makes sense why they would try and pull the 180 on Syn.

it makes zero sense actually

Syn's day 2/3 now looks like TMI. If Syn is mafia then the three of them essentially just brutalised each other all game. I kinda feel it.

I just skimmed Creature's day 3/4 and didn't super love how Syn comes off. Creature kinda hellbussed Deli d3. There are certain moments between them that make me question Syn.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:02 pm 5 players left. 1 of them are Ellendil.

I'm confirmed town at this point. Syn is most likely town due to spew.

That leaves someone among Kami, Gavial, and Mac.


We've got two chances, I like our odds here.

Reconsider this.

Kami why did you sign up to our site with two user names? You're also @MissSparkles right?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:52 am Whatever. Flip me and throw the game if you want to exercise your right to do so. I'm gonna go do some gardening.

literally all I'm saying is objectively fucking true because you are lying in threac for no reason and you're throwing a fit. Stop

it is my job to make people regret their life choices for pushing me

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:51 am ur posts are so bad it makes me want to vote u

Deli was ALREADY DEAD

They aren't living

And sleeping, does not hurt town.

You didn't help town by voting Deli

You are thus INCENTIVIZED to vote her so u can say this exactly

reported for being not cut out for champs

Whatever. Flip me and throw the game if you want to exercise your right to do so. I'm gonna go do some gardening.

Dumbest of morons.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:49 am mac no one cares u voted deli tbh that didn't change anything about the gamea t all

Utter bullshit. The game was still on track for being a sleep day. To suggest I had any incentive to bus there is laughable. Only the dumbest of morons would bus there.

I feel like none of you have realised how obviously my ISO makes me anti aligned to the dead wolf. Spend the time. You'll be thankful.

Lmao

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:44 am Mac is running... automations?

Yes it goes like this.

Anyone pushing me here is trying to WIDEN THE POE and should die.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:42 am

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

Deli wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:16 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:21 pm Then Mac decides to OMGUS vote Kami in the poll knowing the vote wouldn’t count which makes me scum read them even more.

[VOTE: Mac Dongull] aubergine

That’s not scummy tho

Wow sure seems like deli was try harding on getting mac voted

Oh yes let's pick out two posts to reinforce my horribad perspective.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:40 am

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

I mean deli was gonna get lynched regardless, and her claim would be w/w theater.
Also you're acting pretty fake about the whole "GG GAME RESOVLED" stuff

Ah yes the old "bus for no reason when the game is one mischop from lylo" wolf strategy.

Your vote really didn't matter though, everyone but like 3 people agreed deli needed to be voted yesterday.

Holy revisionist history. The day was heading towards sleep til I got drunk and moved my vote to Deli. You aren't even trying to analyse you're just tunneling onto your only out. So thanks for making it easy.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

If you're talking about EOD2, I defended Deli because he claimed JK. I buried him before that, but it wasn't the right call to yeet a PR claim there.

I voted Deli out yesterday too, so you're welcome.



Also, I realize I have the advantage in this situation and know that Creature's a wolf while you don't have that tmi, but that doesn't make you any more right.

1. You'd know I was town and be running automations if you were town.
2. It'd be obvious to me that you were town if you were town.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:38 am Mac's posting sucks but Deli tried too hard to kill him before it could be seen as necessary

my posting only sucks cuz I'm town and don't give a shit about looking towny

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

I mean deli was gonna get lynched regardless, and her claim would be w/w theater.
Also you're acting pretty fake about the whole "GG GAME RESOVLED" stuff

Ah yes the old "bus for no reason when the game is one mischop from lylo" wolf strategy.

Marmot - "Unvote Deli he's towan u guise"
Mac - *votes Deli and kills him. Flips mafia*
Kami and Marmot - "wow mac is woofy and bad reAdz"

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

Marmot is the wolf I am telling you.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:58 pm It’s more like WimI and Esooa are confirmed confirmed town.
Mac is spewed town by Deli but still has a chance to be theatre.
I still wolf read Syn and I have since day 1.

I am spewed town by drunkenly pivoting off sleep onto Deli which led to the wolf flip.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:25 am Marmot/Creature is different

Syn, me, you, Wiml are all confirmed town.

@Gavial @Kami are another difference check by POE.

If we are at 8 here. We chop whichever of Marmot/Creature. If its a mafia then it becomes 7v1 and then 5v1 with the two kills (I didn't know about the two kills til now). Even at that point you get two mischops. You can't count.

How is Syn confirmed town?
I think you are but honestly I’m not entirely sure.

There's no world in which Syn is with Deli. Or mafia generally. He's inno child.