The Syndicate

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:31 pm @MacDougall love you man! ♡

@Timsup2nothin my homie through the whole game. ♡

nice comeback fren

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:58 am I'm hoping my vote on @MacDougall will get him to take this game seriously. I don't know why he appears to have given up and going to allow everyone to swallow the bitter pill that is Alison and her false narrative that Tim, hum , and me are all wolves.

come on MacDougall. why aren't you trying to play? where are your scums? your towns? Where are you cool/funny one liners? don't let Alison suck the fun out of this game. where are your gifs and nsfw jks? (actually I don't miss that last one I bring it because it's missing)

is Alison right about you? I started to believe her and literally checked my pm several times. nope, I'm town. not in a scum team. you could do that thing you do when you rand town and post like your old self, you know all cool and stuff.

Sorry I was having a bbq with my friends and then we drank some wine and played some 2k21.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:15 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:08 am LOLOLOLOL...gosh Alison, why would the whole game have swallowed that narrative whole? You think it was ME that sold it? Get a grip. This is the Syndicate. NO ONE here listens to me. You and Mac sold that. Now you are trying to reverse spin off of it without giving up the associative reads you made off of it back when it was the fixed point you were building your entire reads list on.
I'm currently making no reads based on associatives with scum Mac.

I am reconsidering the possibility that Alison is lockscum because of the fact that nobody has tried to challenge that narrative. Yes me and Alison sold it. If it is accurate then why did the mafia buy it without a hint of resistance. Is the question.

Let's consider a world where Alison is scum. Alison comes in and hard tunnels him. What do Alison's scum buddies do? Just go "yeah that makes sense to me, whack them both"? I think they'd at least put in some effort into challenging that dichotomy or trying to ensure Alison didn't get sent to loser's because it almost guarantees her execution. I am seeing no effort from any player in the game to do that. So if Alison is scum why aren't her scum buddies protecting her at all? Do you think Alison is the designated D1 bus and expendable wolf who is used to secure a free Mac misexe?

I don't buy it.

FTFY

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:07 am @MacDougall Talk to me about Daisy in a way that isn't just pointing at their derp clear wrt number of wolves in the game. What about their actual behavior do you think is townie or scummy and why.

Daisy's play seems aligned to what I am used to of their town play.

I don't really have it in me to deal with stuff like this sorry.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:30 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:34 pm @DaisyCloud Response.

@falcon45ca is derp cleared due as how he responded to @Marmot regarding the post of theirs.

Saying how it’s not VT but the Rolecard says town. The way he responded to it felt like town knowing and thinking this.
Last game Esooa did something similar where they thought they were town as I’ll admit the role PM never stated you were town.
Falcon questioned it and I SR’ed him that entire game until we lost and he was town and then he hated me for it.
Yet I voted Esooa anyway so LOL. I like to vote IC’s I guess.

Who says I SR Alison?
I just believe the fact there is scum within them and Mac.
Alison willing to sacrifice themselves for Mac but Mac refusing to do the same.
Sus tbh.

Tim is more of a gut then anything.
One I want to follow.

I have a smaller gut hit on Poison but that’s scum only in an Alison!Town world.

Your PoE because you aren’t ObvTown/IC?
TSP is though.

Yeah I want to take Me, Daisy, Made and TSP into Night 2.
How is that at all sus? I am town, I do not have her rolecard. My read was a fourth page read. I am not going to stake the game on it. I think it's sus that people who aren't us are buying into this potentially game losing dichotomy. I find everyone content with us both dying extremely tilting.

you can't actually believe the words that are coming out of your mouth. don't drink her kool-aid!

do u really think she is town and wants you deaded because of some blind tunnel?

ask yourself does she even offer legit reasons to scum read you me, and Tim?

what exactly are her reasons? hmmm? do they seem logical and makes sense?

idc if she is supposed to be some star player. she isn't acting like one here in this game.

you just gonna bow your head to the noose now and expect me and Tim to do it too? why because she offered up herself?

I have never seen you get manipulated nor brain washed. is this some new playstyle you are trying out? if so stop it please. it is cringe and it's not u.

what happened since we last played a game together. i have never seen u like this. ever.

daisy you're being pretty rude tbh

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:33 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 pm Tim/Poison/Alison/Mac
Least 1 scum in here.
Made/Daisy prob almost always both town.
TSP Obv Town.

I don’t trust either Tim or Poison and Alison and Mac should both resolve tonight.
I for the life of me cannot understand how you could think that flipping both me and Alison is optimal for town? Even if one of us is mafia, the other one dying at the same time is terribly unnecessary. We are never mafia together obviously so you're essentially admitting you are content with the town between us (or two town) dying. We are the freaking co-mvps of the site. This entire thing has become pants on head.
Mac, town are dying here...that is genuinely just a fact of the setup. I get it, you and Alison, site stars...great. So Alison, the site star, has a HARD wolf read on you. Are we supposed to just ignore that?

No. What's with the bullshit?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:02 pm I want my scumreads in the four. The fourth can be me as a show of good faith if you'd like. That's all I want.

What are your scumreads? I will sheep you here.

"One of the must be right" prescribers all must die.

If Alison is mafia and playing brinkmanship with me then good on her, she won.

I am going to go as far as to retract my read on Alison because it's entirely within her town meta to play this way and the mafia quite clearly are content with her and I dying which is a big time no from me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 pm Tim/Poison/Alison/Mac
Least 1 scum in here.
Made/Daisy prob almost always both town.
TSP Obv Town.

I don’t trust either Tim or Poison and Alison and Mac should both resolve tonight.

I for the life of me cannot understand how you could think that flipping both me and Alison is optimal for town? Even if one of us is mafia, the other one dying at the same time is terribly unnecessary. We are never mafia together obviously so you're essentially admitting you are content with the town between us (or two town) dying. We are the freaking co-mvps of the site. This entire thing has become pants on head.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:34 pm @DaisyCloud Response.

@falcon45ca is derp cleared due as how he responded to @Marmot regarding the post of theirs.

Saying how it’s not VT but the Rolecard says town. The way he responded to it felt like town knowing and thinking this.
Last game Esooa did something similar where they thought they were town as I’ll admit the role PM never stated you were town.
Falcon questioned it and I SR’ed him that entire game until we lost and he was town and then he hated me for it.
Yet I voted Esooa anyway so LOL. I like to vote IC’s I guess.

Who says I SR Alison?
I just believe the fact there is scum within them and Mac.
Alison willing to sacrifice themselves for Mac but Mac refusing to do the same.
Sus tbh.

Tim is more of a gut then anything.
One I want to follow.

I have a smaller gut hit on Poison but that’s scum only in an Alison!Town world.

Your PoE because you aren’t ObvTown/IC?
TSP is though.

Yeah I want to take Me, Daisy, Made and TSP into Night 2.

How is that at all sus? I am town, I do not have her rolecard. My read was a fourth page read. I am not going to stake the game on it. I think it's sus that people who aren't us are buying into this potentially game losing dichotomy. I find everyone content with us both dying extremely tilting.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:05 pm This worked the exact opposite of the way it should have
Alison and Mac hard wolf reading each other sort of set the terms. The good news is that I am pretty confident that one of them is right and the other is a wolf, because I don't really see both of them being wrong as likely. They know each other too well. My inclination here is to just get comprehensive reads lists from both of them, then kill them both to see which one to follow.

What to do with the other two kills is the complicated part. I don't think following Alison before flipping her is ideal, because for one thing I am town and will be useful later, and for another I have minimal faith in the associative read on Daisy who has seemed reasonably towny.

Eh we could both be wrong. I think she is mafia but if I am wrong then we obviously both are. She's tunneling me in a somewhat townie way. I just can't really get past how bad her initial reads were. Although they have somewhat improved as the game has continued.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:29 pm I believe Daisy is derp cleared.
I have no real thoughts on Tim. Been wolfy?
Explain.

Enters thread, immediately starts trying to figure out how many mafia there are.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:57 pm @MacDougall

Could you also answer that question please?

I am actually taking the approach of just using the mass chop as allowing me to kill everyone remotely and not really trying very hard otherwise honestly.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:08 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine
Can I have your thoughts regarding Tim and Daisy please.

I believe Daisy is derp cleared.
I have no real thoughts on Tim. Been wolfy?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:04 pm To clarify: the cap resets at the start of each cycle (ie it will reset between n1 and d2). It does not reset between day and night. So at SOD2, everyone will have a new 100 posts to use for d2/n2, etc. etc.
Oh ok so I can talk then and not have to be speechless the next nights.
Nice!

Time to use my powerful voice!

Who do you intend to murderise here?

I am very disappointed Marmot didn't get put in the lower bracket.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Put her in lower bracket and kill. If she's town its her fault for throwing. Don't kill me afterwards.

Marmot townier than before for being pro mac but also not good enough

Alison doubling down on mac mafia makes her lockest wolf of all. She only town if she humours me town. Shes jumped every shark.

Mogderpien bad town

All scumreads of me equals mafia I'm god

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:18 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:45 am His reads are blitzed out quickly, aren't accurate and don't have substance to them. He's basically the same as he was in Fallout and he's treating Daisy very very weirdly. Lockscumming me instead of treating me with caution or analyzing the possibility of me being town and my reads being correct is outing.

The third is probably an afk player.

How is this different than a traditional Mac entry?

It isn't. She's pure agenda pro wolf

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:21 am [VOTE: Mac] aubergine
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

That gets one in the bracket.

Lol no

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:04 am So here's the thing.

I have played with Mac in many many games.

We have hydra'd together as well.

We know each other very well and have lots of experience and history.

Every time we have been town together we have found each other easily and confidently and worked together to dismantle the scum.

Right now we are both calling each other lockscum which means there is almost guaranteed to be at least one scum between the two of us. Which means you should send us both into the loser's bracket both because it guarantees a scum send and because it permits the town between the two of us (hint, it's me) to barrel roll the other out of the game.

Fine

Made wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:35 am @MacDougall do the thing where you explain to everyone how to play this game optimally

Drunk ie no

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:43 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I will be posting no further day 1 and merely observing you all and modifying my votes from this platform. My goal is to put 2 wolves in the night bracket.
I’m wasting a post here for this but I just want to ask.
Why Made and Long Con?

Gavial is wolfing with Kyle

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I will be posting no further day 1 and merely observing you all and modifying my votes from this platform. My goal is to put 2 wolves in the night bracket.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:43 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:22 pm I'm not sure who all to vote on. we still have players who haven't even posted yet. is this typical for games of this size? (sorry, I only ever played ones here that had lots and lots of plsyers) 16 players is about standard right?

any who, imma do something similar to what Tom's method is, except I won't make any meme votes. and I will let everyone know who belongs to what catagory.
Scum.

Tim might be scum but I haven't locked it.

Falcon is town.

[VOTE: DaisyCloud] aubergine

Your reads are extraordinarily bad in this game and no you will not pocket me for omgussing on my behalf

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:26 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine voting hum as part of my 8 is because it's very disconcerting that he hasn't even posted yet. I feel like t!MacDougall would be trying to lead town.

I am in Australia. My time zones are out. I also have a life. I also am not afraid of posting as a wolf. Never push me for this reason again please it's asinine.

So far I'm going:

Town group -

Tim
TSP
HK
Daisy
Mac
Wilgy

Fuck off group -

Alison
Falcon
Gavial
Marmot
Poison
Made

The annoying thing is that alison is >rand wolf here but she is difficult to read partners through. Giving Gavial and Poison who were both objectively scummy easy townreads is not something I expect of town Alison. Wolf Alison would also be aware that they are being scummy though so her townreading them has some form of agenda behind it imo. Going to have to keep reading.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:01 amI agree.

your reads sucking is okay tbh

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:00 amPoison is town.

your reads double triple quadruple suck this game so you're definitely going to the loser's bracket today

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:10 am sup fools
Who's town and why isn't it alison?

yeah ok we can be friends

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:49 am
Poison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:46 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:45 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:44 am There are 3 wolves.

Hey Tony, it says here there are 3 wolves.
MARMOT!!!!!!!! thanks for saving me my extra energy!

POISON!!!!!! I'm sad we didn't rand mafia together.

except that you did

extremely scummy marmot continues to be

marmot opens up in typical scummy fashion

going to lock in poison as wolf here

poison entry post overwhelmingly scummy

daisy also derp cleared, joy

tbh gavial could be with falcon actually but I don't think so

as of page 1 the towniest player is tsp, the other three people who posted being gavial, alison and falcon are all scummy but can't be together... onto page 2

there are no two mafia between falcon, gavial, alison and tsp that I can tell

this is decent progress

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:17 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:05 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:12 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:11 am What about waiting for everyone to check in and eliminating actual scummy people?
i think everyone here including gav is probably town. therefore, the other 12 people probably have wolves.

we have eight eliminations today let's not kid ourselves and pretend there's an easy way to do this.
Why do you think everyone "here" are town? Seems awful quick to jump to that conclusion, why aren't you more paranoid?
Alison’s in standard town form, Alison said gav was town and Tim was a fourth person (who actually I think is a bit townier than average which idk I don’t have a timometer tbh

unless her gavial townread was fake she's mafia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:59 am Third.

TSP going for the derp clear early I see. It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him

I think this is maybe a scumslip

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:17 am I'm sold on Gavial being town, not as sure on you or Tim.

My proposal is that we each vote whoever we thinks is scummy, and if there's a shortage of votes we shift them around to 2nd/3rd strongest scumreads to ensure 8 people are sent.

aight so you're lock mafia at the very least, but I doubt gavial is your partner so thanks for the tmi

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:08 am ok so i say we eliminate everyone who isn't here right now on the first two days and let them sort things out in the night time.

towny post

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