The Syndicate

If its Wilgy/Paopan Wilgy is now voting Paopan which is like... not a bad idea I suppose given he can always just change to Porscha like he was questioning her in his catch up in prep for.

@Miss Carousel @Paopan what is your thinking towards Wilgy. Why the apprehension to vote there? Do you understand the fact that as the d1 counter to a 0 poster Wilgy won't endgame here anyway so pushing his flip down the road further is just causing problems.

@CRichard I don't feel like Porscha is a good chop at all.

ordinarily I would be concerned that wilgy should just be a runaway here and is spewed mafia from not being but in 2 person mafia his solo teammate doesn't even really have the sway to pull together alternatives...

missc and paopan are either together spewing him town and just trying to keep him in the game for a crucial mischop or one is wilgy's partner. I'm starting to lean towards thinking that they are mafia together.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:15 am Hmm nah. They've tried too hard to cheat their way to get townreads.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
You referring to me here? Explain this.
nah it was why I unvoted paopan prior... they had tried to angleshoot to get townread
Damn they tried to get town read using that?
Uh that's ...... not the best way to be town read.

what is?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:36 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:11 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:20 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:18 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:22 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:21 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?
Where?
I voted you because Mac was calling you confirmed scum and I wanted to smite him in the face.
Now he’s trying to turn you against me, classic scum deception right there!
This however I mixed up CRichard and Mac and I apologies.

But I’ll say this.
CRichard did you even look why? Did you see I wanted to shove in Mac’s face his solve is completely wrong(
You wanted to show up Mac in case Paopan flips town. Though I have to wonder why you'd vote on Paopan if you're sure they're town.
Still, I have Paopan as unaligned with everyone except Wilgy.
I don't think DrWigly is a good lynch for today. I mean for sure let's lynch DrWigly.
But if he flips town, are you ready to take the L the next day?
Interesting

quite

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:25 pm Did I touch the correct part of the doll?
Is it really Falcon-Porsha?

right now I'm thinking Wilgy/MC. Falcon has been basically me in this game. We have had pretty much the same exact thoughts. I'm never going there. Porscha was also fine to me

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:56 pm Somewhat concerned I'm giving MissC too much town cred. Anyone else have thoughts on the slot?

echoing yours

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

if wilgy is mafia there's the partner

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm Alright caught up.

Have some beef with my wagon as Mac and Falcon are town. Mac is still reading me poorly, and it's becoming silly.

Odd that I saw CR advise that I wasn't hunting in spite of not interacting with what content I was able to provide, but I don't think I should go barking up that tree with Gav still around.

You've done nothing for me to townread you. Just saying I'm reading you poorly is wrong given at the point in which I voted you you'd made no effort to solve the game. You can't take issue with Gavial townreading you without reason and then have issue with me scumreading you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:21 pm I don't know why you're so against Wilgy flipping man. The dude emoji posted most of d1, has made a single post today shading me and you and is voting you, and has made zero effort to solve the game for the town at all. He'd be dead by now if you weren't flailing around like a madman trying to push anyone but him. Your read on him makes no sense.
Did I shade you? I don't think you are scum with Gav and Gav needs to be resolved.

your first post today was "why aren't we flipping mac/gavial"

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:08 am and now I can't and won't scumread or vote porscha... this game is an omega clusterfuck
Can you explain?

I was drunk

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:02 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 am Paopan can be town if Porscha/MightyQ have at least one wolf, as proposing to wagon them feels unaligned from where I'm at.
This makes sense.
Then why aren't you voting Porscha?
I would vote Porscha if I didn't think there were more wolfy players. I'm pretty much sold on Gav or Pao being wolf though, flipping Pao would resolve that 50/50, and maybe if we have more time post flip we can clear out the MightyQ/Porscha 50/50.

Halfway with my catchup and I'm still leaning into Gav/Porscha or MightyQ. IF I am incorrect and it's Pao, then It's not Porscha or Mighty Q (and that's mostly with what I take away from CR's post).

If Gav or Pao are mafia why did they fight me on you all day then vote a 0 poster instead of you?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:15 am Hmm nah. They've tried too hard to cheat their way to get townreads.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
You referring to me here? Explain this.

nah it was why I unvoted paopan prior... they had tried to angleshoot to get townread

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:21 am I can see Falcon with you.
I can see Falcon with Mac.
I can see Falcon with Wilgy
I can see Falcon with MightyQ
I can see Falcon with Miss Caro
I can see Falcon with Por

The only one I can’t see them with is basically Paopan, same with you.
I can see Paopan and Mac but if that’s the case they are playing super pro town together and I doubt wolves play it like that.

Stop trying to worldbuild. You are bad at it. Making posts like this doesn't help. Make fewer posts.

Flip the scummiest slot in the game.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:09 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:40 am Gav if you're so sure that one of myself/Wilgy is a wolf, wouldn't it make sense for you to vote the one who is most likely to go over and was the alternative to Sig, which you pushed on while they were 0 posting.
Nope.
I don’t trust people to actually vote you without me.
Chances are Wilgy gets ML’ed and I die tonight.

They will probably still ignore you, you like that don’t you?

When I suggested you might die before you yelled at me for humouring something so absurd.

In my experience mafia teammates don't vote together on a random town day 1. CRich and I are sitting there with our votes together on Wilgy.

Guess who else wanted to chop Wilgy. Lime Coke. The town who died.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:03 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:05 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:03 am Remember when Paopan voted CRichard and thought he was wolf?
Yeah me too.

Wonder what happened, guess the mod must have confirmed him as IC.
You'd think that the way I've interacted with everyone in thread so far would indicate that I'm unaligned with everyone.
If you're town, realise that I can't be aligned with everyone who is alive.
Not at all?
The way Falcon and Mac have been treating your slot they didn’t really have motivation to push you they only had the sincerity to call you out on your behaviour that’s it, nothing more.
Your not confirmed town, I saved you from yeet so technically from another persons view I can even be your partner.
So I’m not sure where you think you can’t be partners with anyone not to mention there are 2 low posters (Por and Mighty) who can easily be aligned with you.
Mac and Falcon though are more aligned with you.

You know why I didn't push CRichard d1?

Because CRichard was voting with me and agreed with me and stuff. Which on day 1 is fine.

Being fully honest CRichard has been pretty scummy and I am not entirely against the idea of chopping him or Wilgy, but I don't know why you have him as more scummy than Wilgy. What's your case on Rich?

I don't know why you're so against Wilgy flipping man. The dude emoji posted most of d1, has made a single post today shading me and you and is voting you, and has made zero effort to solve the game for the town at all. He'd be dead by now if you weren't flailing around like a madman trying to push anyone but him. Your read on him makes no sense.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:18 pm Same with Wilgy though if he’s town, you and CRichard are the most logical scum.

Yet when @MacDougall says CRichard doesn’t have a world where he’s scum it really confuses me because there totally is!

What are you saying that I said now? I don't even understand.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:11 pm You are acting like wolves are incapable of voting each other.

You literally are trying to make the same argument but when I make it you tell me i'm wrong. I literally cannot play mafia with you dude. You make it impossible.

6.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:08 pm I don't think Wilgy and Crichard make sense as a team. I think they are very likely t/w in some way.
Why didn’t Wilgy vote CRichard then?

1. Wilgy didn't vote a lot of people
2. Why did CRichard vote Wilgy?
3. Wilgy voted to save himself
4. Why didn't everyone else vote CRichard?
5. Why don't you ask him?

I don't think Wilgy and Crichard make sense as a team. I think they are very likely t/w in some way.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:27 am The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in this game

mmm

current mac day 2 stance

not it

I do wanna not post much here d2 anyway tho cuz I want ppl who aren't me to resolve gavial

reeeee

the one recent game in which if I randed mafia I'd Coast

I'm town and I wish I wasn't

full disclosure I'm super drunk

I will sheep you

miss Carousel is thine beacon to taketh me into the nape of the afterworld bestowed in the glory of their victory amen

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:08 am and now I can't and won't scumread or vote porscha... this game is an omega clusterfuck
hard disagree lol

help... me

if thine is falling afoul of thou villainous gavial allow me to channel the powers of my fellow town so that they may removeth such sinister presence from my perview and lead me into the promised land amen

@CRichard my entire life is in the nape of ye being town plz thine acquire the capacity to overcome thy paranoia and lead me from the garden of hating gavials play

bestow upon me the power to control the chaos of Seth almighty nanook lest I fail to the fragility of the mafia panic

in this game either wilgy is mafia or the game is lost so here I am

and now I can't and won't scumread or vote porscha... this game is an omega clusterfuck

@Paopan you did not comment on my response to you trying to make out like Lime Coke was scumreading me. Why?

This is me right now.

I am absolutely ready and willing to just flip Gavial here because his presence is making it literally impossible for me to functionally contribute to the town wincon.

If Gavial can somehow stop relentlessly tunneling me for god awful reasons that would be sensational.

@lime coke please swap positions with me

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I envy Lime Coke so dearly. So so dearly.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:27 am Okay okay... chill a bit. Let's see our options.
What would we gain if we get rid of either Gavial or DrWigly today?

Gavial would be out of the game which would benefit my mental health among many other things.

DrWilgy would provide information about the day 1 wagons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:22 am Be mafia.

Watch Gavial tilt Mac the entirety of day 1.

Be LC.

Try to control Gavial and control the chaos.

Be mafia.

Kill LC.

Watch Gavial tilt Mac the entirety of day 2.

This is extremely likely the correct version of events. Which makes me believe that the mafia are 2 people who gave zero fucks about what Gavial and I were doing day 1. Porscha is essentially a complete outlier here that everyone has ignored and is probably just mafia. Miss Carousel seemed towny when they posted. MightyQ is like fine kill them idc.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:25 am I really do stuck at the early stages of the game. But I'm seriously considering starting a new train on Porsha and MightyQ even though it's soo bad.

Oh my fuck finally someone actually says something townie. Thank Christ.

How the fuck can you sit there and argue with me about logic and reason when you can't even read who the fuck is making posts.

I CANNOT DEAL WITH YOUR ABSOLUTE LACK OF A BRAIN. PLEASE FUCK THE FUCK OFF OUT OF MY LIFE.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:22 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:21 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:18 am Paopan Gav is voting you today after insisting you were town earlier. Your comments on that?
Where?
I voted you because Mac was calling you confirmed scum and I wanted to smite him in the face.
Now he’s trying to turn you against me, classic scum deception right there!

IT WAS FUCKING CRICHARD THAT SAID THAT YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT

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