The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:08 pm Percentage chance of a Mac/Alison W/W world? Like anyone else think that's a possibility right meow? Because it's something I'm buying into more and more during reread.

I retract my neon scumread.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:42 am Alright, I'm caught up now.

Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu

Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature

Wilgy is mafia

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:42 am So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

I think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.

Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.

I'd have to see if any voter is actually under pressure to warrant this.

Uh you misunderstand. Mafia vote their partners when they are under early pressure. It's good for optics to do so early cuz you have ample time to end up putting your vote elsewhere. If Kate is taking heat like this early as mafia, one or more of the voters is her partner for sure imo.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:42 am So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

I think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.

Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:42 am So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:37 am Neon is not towny

What gave you this vibe?

Neon's posts surprisingly.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:36 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:28 am @RondoDimBuckle, should splints and I have content at this time?

The tone of your summery casts this in a negative light in spite the game only being open for 12 hours, opening during what is the evening and sleepy time for several.

Apologies I didn't realise you had the sleeping cycle of a koala. Also interesting you posted after getting called out hmmmmmmmmmm

But in the interest of fairness if its a crappy time for you then its all cool with me.

You have compared me to the worst animal to ever exist and I believe I should take offense

Koalas are fucking horrible animals. They have one of the smallest brain to body ratios of any mammal, additionally - their brains are smooth. A brain is folded to increase the surface area for neurons. If you present a koala with leaves plucked from a branch, laid on a flat surface, the koala will not recognise it as food. They are too thick to adapt their feeding behaviour to cope with change. In a room full of potential food, they can literally starve to death. This is not the token of an animal that is winning at life. Speaking of stupidity and food, one of the likely reasons for their primitive brains is the fact that additionally to being poisonous, eucalyptus leaves (the only thing they eat) have almost no nutritional value. They can't afford the extra energy to think, they sleep more than 80% of their fucking lives. When they are awake all they do is eat, shit and occasionally scream like fucking satan. Because eucalyptus leaves hold such little nutritional value, koalas have to ferment the leaves in their guts for days on end. Unlike their brains, they have the largest hind gut to body ratio of any mammal. Many herbivorous mammals have adaptations to cope with harsh plant life taking its toll on their teeth, rodents for instance have teeth that never stop growing, some animals only have teeth on their lower jaw, grinding plant matter on bony plates in the tops of their mouths, others have enlarged molars that distribute the wear and break down plant matter more efficiently... Koalas are no exception, when their teeth erode down to nothing, they resolve the situation by starving to death, because they're fucking terrible animals. Being mammals, koalas raise their joeys on milk (admittedly, one of the lowest milk yields to body ratio... There's a trend here). When the young joey needs to transition from rich, nourishing substances like milk, to eucalyptus (a plant that seems to be making it abundantly clear that it doesn't want to be eaten), it finds it does not have the necessary gut flora to digest the leaves. To remedy this, the young joey begins nuzzling its mother's anus until she leaks a little diarrhoea (actually fecal pap, slightly less digested), which he then proceeds to slurp on. This partially digested plant matter gives him just what he needs to start developing his digestive system. Of course, he may not even have needed to bother nuzzling his mother. She may have been suffering from incontinence. Why? Because koalas are riddled with chlamydia. In some areas the infection rate is 80% or higher. This statistic isn't helped by the fact that one of the few other activities koalas will spend their precious energy on is rape. Despite being seasonal breeders, males seem to either not know or care, and will simply overpower a female regardless of whether she is ovulating. If she fights back, he may drag them both out of the tree, which brings us full circle back to the brain: Koalas have a higher than average quantity of cerebrospinal fluid in their brains. This is to protect their brains from injury... should they fall from a tree. An animal so thick it has its own little built in special ed helmet. I fucking hate them.

Neon is not towny

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:39 am I don't see myself voting Lucy or Falcon

why?

Lol Alison hadn't even posted at that time.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:29 am I’m a little bored tbh.

Mac’s posts are like, the words are fine and even correct/smart but they don’t come across as free-flowing and tonally amazing and that’s a red flag to me coming from a skilled player.

Mmm yeah I can see that.

which of my read/s did you think weren't real Neon?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:01 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 am Shouldn't the Oracle just hard claim immediately?

I dont think the Oracle is going to hard claim unless they are on the block and they should play it that way because then the other side of the block is probably a wolf

Meh if I was Oracle I'd just claim early. The mafia are very unlikely to cc, we then don't waste time pushing them and we have a slot who we can at least trust the solving intentions of. I see very little downside to getting it out of the way early.

Shouldn't the Oracle just hard claim immediately?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:58 am @MacDougall What was the basis for you initial Seanzie townread?

His initial read on Dennis didn't seem to have scum motivation behind it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) lw
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) t
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) t
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) w
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) t
sig (he/him) lt
staypositivefriend (she/her) t
tutuu (any) lt

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Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:55 am I dont think SPF is repping a "standard sensible town POV".

Welcome to my town list.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:24 am Seanzie and Mac talked about me for a little but interestingly I have little to say about it other than it's something of note.

"interestingly"

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) ?
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) t
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) w
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) t
sig (he/him) lt
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) lt

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:48 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Whoop whoop game!!

Null, possibly wolf.

I had a similar reaction. It's also why I'm townreading you for now.

What's your ish with Rondo?

His "two wolves above this line" opening felt fake.

it felt real to me and was the reason I townread him tbh

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .

echo Hello there
run ride_or_die.bat
echo Mac is town
run pre_town_win.jav
echo Time to win
run antifoil.exe
echo lets get this bread

Reading Mac as town too early especially if you town core him is very dangerous 100% would not recommend

Lol

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:04 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:52 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

sheep me instead and town will win

que?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao

to be fair I didnt know Mac was in this game

if I am sheeping you and they are sheeping me. Ipso facto lorum ipsum

why are you explaining why you did something you did not do?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) ?
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) lt
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) ?
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) ?
sig (he/him) lt
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) lt

update

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm Seanzie why was my Dennis read the one you wanted me to elaborate on when it's so clearly the dumbest read in the group?

You've never played with Dennis before.

I fail to see how this answer is satisfactory. Why care about that read as opposed to my other reads on players who have more content?

Why didn't you ask me to elaborate on my Rondo townread for instance?

Seanzie why was my Dennis read the one you wanted me to elaborate on when it's so clearly the dumbest read in the group?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:48 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Whoop whoop game!!

Null, possibly wolf.

I had a similar reaction. It's also why I'm townreading you for now.

What's your ish with Rondo?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Baudib1 (he/him) t
Dennis (he/him) lw
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w

reads I care about enough to tolerate talking about them

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao

read the post again

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:52 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

sheep me instead and town will win

que?

Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .