The Syndicate

I was actually thinking about the poison targets. They are insidious and calculated. N1 they go after a big dog in Alison, who was a very realistic NK target, which would have been quite a waste if the poison double stacked (assuming that the poisoner is 3p). She also looked very town. So quite a wolf-siding shot from most people's perspective. Since then all the shots have been POE, but not the most POE, just sort of outside the range of being the optimal chop. Never NK choices, but also probably not going to be chopped. So since n1, they have hard townsided. The more the game has progressed towards a town win, the more the poisoner has felt like they've been trying to help the town win? It feels like each of them has specifically been selected to:

a) Avoid getting healed by town (LC)
b) Avoid being the NK target (because POE)
c) Have high potential to be mafia (because POE)
d) Not be optimal chop targets.

With the exception of Alison.

If Alison wasn't the first target, I would be nearly convinced the poisoner is in fact Alison. If the poisoner is 3p, they are trying to help town steamroll the mafia. Which would indicate that they are strong towncore, paying close attention and do not fear losing to the town if the mafia get cleared before them.

Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.

Sometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.

If it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.

Allcrab has a point about the Bad Bunny poison, also I am not sure any of the targets truly make that much sense for Allcrab.

lol TSP caught us

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:49 pm @MacDougall do you believe orangecrush would have been in a state of anti-exposure when he was going after you given that everyone was talking about either chopping him or shooting him? He led the poll vote most of the day too.

I don't really know what you mean. When I first noticed them come in my inclination was that they seemed kinda towny because they seemed disconnected from things. Choosing to push on me from their position kinda made me think there was no agenda behind it. It just felt like some little dog yapping at me. Going after me from their perspective as mafia indicates that they were either in a team that was kinda disconnected/defeated or comprised of people who didn't understand the futility of pushing on me at the time. Or I guess there is the alternative which is that they were in anti-spew or being told to push on me for the wifom of it.

But why do you think they had that mentality? It seems obvious to me that he didn't. Which is why I think it might indicate who the partners are. Made being one of them.

Did you read Orangecrush for instances of my name? I think you did? I am pretty sure they spent their entire game trying to get me chopped. Which is pretty interesting because that probably rules out certain teammates when I think about it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:37 pm I've been too lazy to do any paint analysis.

Maybe if you refer to it as spooge you'll find your enthusiasm.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
I did full reviews for Made and Act, but none else.

I'll give it a whirl today if I get time.

spooge

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:35 pm Before "spew" became a thing I feel like I used "paint" a lot.

I feel like I've been using sponge the entire time it works so good.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm @MacDougall gun to your head, who are the mafia if it's a team of two?

Made and Martin.

Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
Alignment diarrhea.

Nah it doesn't work as a verb. Spooge it is.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.

How about spooge? Brb reading some Mac spooge. Mac spooged Jay town. I love it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm Damn. That hurts coming from a guy who wears glasses.

I am going to make screeching bird sounds soon.

That read on me is atrocious and the dude never reads me town ever. He's like the ultra Mac paranoia enthusiast.

Lol Made is trying to bury me I think?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:21 pm If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.
Noted
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:02 pm I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Do you think this makes you smart?
Yes.

Well it doesn't okay.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:21 pm If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.
Noted
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:02 pm I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Do you think this makes you smart?

Spew.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:48 pm If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.
How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?
Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.
If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.
I’m looking at the entire game. And sometimes “anti-spew” is still revealing. Not everyone knows how to handle that.

Stand back Jay you might get some spew on you.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:34 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:33 pm What even is a modified tracker?
What are your thoughts on the claims of living players? Why have you not claimed?
I think the attention you're putting on me is odd but i kinda appreciate it cuz it grounds my play. The Desperado stuff on you give you a pass for today, but if i were around I'd prob tinfoil at Fx

I like lomo's case on Jay, I think Jay/guilo interactions need to be looked at by non Jay person that's not comf biased as you seem to be on jay. This is doubly true if Martin is town and we're correctly assuming we have 2 scum left. Jay has the gavial hell in the cell working for him, but I do see him being the kind of confident player who would be willing to go for that play for the wifom

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook, it's seeming like this game has a lot of btsc, so the idea of a neutral or evil align btsc sounds, but the case isn't really that compelling to me.

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Allcrab reads fairly clean to me, but that might just be lack of familiarity with the player compared to the

I've already spoken on Alison, and I don't feel like being roasted on TangleStarkPro again. this is all off the top, so if i'm forgetting someone, that person auto sus af for missing my radar

but yeah, sorry for inactivity y'all, i normally don't get too into a game unless we're losing, or i'm getting turbo'd and that didn't really happen till today. I think we still got this tho

What have you spoken on Alison? I missed that...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:48 pm If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.
How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?
Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:48 pm If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

Wellety wellety wellety

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:18 am tbh by enemy I just mean you say I tunnel you and shit always

friendly rival

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:49 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:04 am Mac I already know what you're saying and I did after like 2 hours. See I am not your enemy I stick up for you when you need it
When have I ever implied you were my enemy?
I see you as my enemy tbh

Wow. How anime of you.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:04 am Mac I already know what you're saying and I did after like 2 hours. See I am not your enemy I stick up for you when you need it

When have I ever implied you were my enemy?

If your list of POE is

Alison
Allcrab
lost monkey
MacDougall
Made
MartinGG99

I 100% should be considered the towniest person in this list, not the second wolfiest.

Okay consider this.

This game has since day 1 been a fantastic thread state where the mafia have essentially been dismantled day after day tracing all the way back to day 1.

I have nearing on 900 posts.

At what point have I actually wolfsided?

I hate making arguments like this but I am a powerwolf. I rarely choose to bus. I like to take the path of least resistance as wolf. I like to just destroy the town.

If the mafia are Nutella, Owner, Sonny/OC, Made +1, how does the second highest poster and probably second largest contributor to the threadstate profile as a viable fifth? It makes no sense. I would argue that I have been townier on play than everyone in this game bar Jay. Think about that. I have been TOWNIER than EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, and you are putting me as second to last in the POE?

There is nothing that makes sense about me being mafia in this gamestate. The game would not be in this state with a 900 posting MacDougall wolfing. Everyone who has seen me wolf knows this. I am not mafia. We will probably lose if I die honestly. It usually happens. The feeling of being dead in DVC but seeing my townies bring it home is a feeling I rarely if ever feel.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:26 pm I hope I don't have to do a stupid interactions chart. I guess it could be manageable if I keep it to a subset of people.
Here's the rub. If it gets to the point where the town decide that I am the bottom of the POE and you or anyone else starts a push that I feel might earnestly kill me, I am going to buck and squirm and scream so fucking hard that to get me chopped you would need to leave no stone unturned because every person alive that doesn't have the stomach to deal with me at my worst I will browbeat into voting for someone else.
This does not concern me.

That's quite fine.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:26 pm I hope I don't have to do a stupid interactions chart. I guess it could be manageable if I keep it to a subset of people.

Here's the rub. If it gets to the point where the town decide that I am the bottom of the POE and you or anyone else starts a push that I feel might earnestly kill me, I am going to buck and squirm and scream so fucking hard that to get me chopped you would need to leave no stone unturned because every person alive that doesn't have the stomach to deal with me at my worst I will browbeat into voting for someone else.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:46 pm someone asked tsp a question and he made like 10 posts that mean nothign to anytihng and don't say anything and it tilted me off the fucking planet. I'm just going to not read them anymore

Fwiw TSP is confirmed not mafia. He can be the poisoner and is firming up as the poisoner tbh. The poisoner POE is like Alison, TSP and Allcrab. I actually think it's TSP to about the 90th percentile.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:15 pm Alright.

An investigation of some kind was targeted at Garden Gnome on Night 4. Nobody has claimed it.

Either the poisoner is also investigative (hence my Allcrab theory) or a separate unclaimed investigator hit Gnome.

Are you intentionally being coy about the type of investigator or are you only aware that it was an investigator?

It's important to note that I am way better at reading wolf flip spew than Jay because I have ultra instinct and all he has is meaningless shit like the scientific method. When's that ever helped anyone? That's right never. The Earth is flat. Suck on this.

I have been essentially a low effort version of myself since day 2. Most of the time I was playing I was laying in bed late at night phone posting. I had been more interested in playing the role of Devil's Advocate and shitlord than doing anything meaningful. These are fair things to suspect me over and I am conscious that I literally was doing that. At no point did I think it would bite me in the bum though because until today I thought I was safely above the high water line of who is scummier. Given that is seemingly not the case I will attempt to figure out the last wolves for you nerds by sifting through dead wolf ISOs like a rabid beagle. But first I must take a piss.

I still don't think LoMo's joat claim or his night actions should be clearing him. I didn't feel like he responded very well to the gamestate when it was at two wolves down and I haven't seen him do anything particularly townie since. Yes he has Nutella spew going for him, but Nutella spew is a meme and she knows it and she invariably would seek to correct/take advantage of it by distancing more than usual. Particularly in this game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:08 pm finale meme

Aight.

I contemplated fake claiming something townier just because of how scummy the real claim will make me sound.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:22 pm @MacDougall
@Made

Why no claims?

This doesn’t mean I am asking you to claim. I’m only asking what has held you back.

My claim will make me seem like a wolf.

are any combinations of Martin, LoMo, Made and Alison disqualified as teammates?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:45 pm Hard claim JOAT

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 pm two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?
Who's the confirmed town JOAT?

tsp claimed joat

two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?

omg you are tilting the shit out of me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:55 am I like nutella's posts. She's kinda tapering off in activity: right now it feels like the half-lazy I don't wanna say things kind of taper. I felt it a bit when I wanted cake.
Today in posts that look like past bullshit.
Am I mafia?
I am beginning to think so.
You're the flail emoji.

You try being in my position. You asked me to try to solve who the Mafia are. Clearly I am not going to convince you so shut up about it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm Is Gnome also mafia?

I don't particularly have any reason to think you and her can't be 1t 1m or mafia/mafia frankly. What reason should I have?

I thought you were outed to nutella interactives d1 and probably you'd be dead if not for being vouched for. You are psuedo solving today. You have no actual evidence for me being a wolf and the way Alison sheeped your push when you were both townreading me before is heavily suspect.

I wonder how long Sloonei vouches for you til the tinfoil sets in.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:55 am I like nutella's posts. She's kinda tapering off in activity: right now it feels like the half-lazy I don't wanna say things kind of taper. I felt it a bit when I wanted cake.
Today in posts that look like past bullshit.
Am I mafia?

I am beginning to think so.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:34 pm Town reads to varying degrees

Tangrowth
nutella
Dana
Gavial
Guillotine
Nanook

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:34 pm Go ahead and stick Alison in there too, fack it m8

Why fuck it?

Jaylison mafia team. Why not?

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